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We've learned that the Intelligence Community's Inspector General can't provide any information about contacts between the majority and the whistleblower before his involvement. The only way to obtain that information is from the majority themselves. They are fact witnesses in the same investigation they are running. Nowhere else in America can you be both a fact witness and the prosecutor in an investigation, especially one to remove a president. It's entirely inappropriate. Chairman Schiff should be disqualified from running an investigation where his committee members or staff are fact witnesses regarding contact with the whistleblower and the process.

We lack control over the FBI as we don't control the White House. Releasing the January 6 tapes, which I support, may lead to the identification of individuals involved. However, this also means that the Department of Justice will pursue more people. I don't want anyone to suffer like Matthew Perna or Brandon's family. John, I don't want you to go to jail. I don't want this to happen to anyone else due to sick individuals who use facial recognition software to target others. It's overwhelming and needs to stop.

On Fiza, there are amendments being considered, including one that would require a warrant for every query of lawfully collected data. It is unclear if the president would veto the bill if this amendment passed. The speaker cannot make veto threats on behalf of the president. They believe that the warrant requirement would undermine the purpose of FISA and put victims at risk. They argue that there are other elements of the bill that would protect the privacy of Americans without going too far. They will be making this case to several members.

Congressman Massey argues the Epstein case exposes “two Americas—one America for the rich and powerful”—where Epstein allegedly “was raping 13 and 14 year olds” and survivors were told by police that nothing could be done. He asks what “force” or “corrupt forces” could prevent disclosure and notes questions about foreign governments, the CIA, and the FBI being involved, urging release of the files. He says credible people have raised these issues and that the victim's lawyers have seen the files. Donors have pressured him; he says, “we need two more Republican votes” to push for release. Victims may publish their own list if needed; they have immunity to name in the House. Files are stored at DOJ, FBI, CIA, and Treasury; 33,000 documents exist with most already public, while 3% is new but not consequential. The aim is relentless pursuit of justice, not politics.

"I think we'll eventually get there." "the folks who stayed up all night to go through the 34,000 individual pages have found that they're so redacted as to be useless and that many of them were already available." "the scope of their investigation is to investigate the investigators." "they don't ever intend to have any criminal referrals." "but they're not going in and trying to identify who these perpetrators were of these heinous sexual abuse crimes." "Well, I made the mistake of getting 12 cosponsors and the so the White House knew who to target." "So I'm not gonna name anybody who's thinking about joining." "They're literally calling it a hostile act to sign this discharge petition now."

Congressman Thomas Massie discusses the Epstein Files Transparency Act and what to expect from the December 19, public release of materials. Key framework and deadlines - The Epstein Files Transparency Act was signed on November 19. Materials are due in a publicly searchable format by December 19. - The act is a law, not a subpoena, and has no expiration date. It directs the attorney general to produce three sets of files from three locations: the Department of Justice (DOJ), the FBI, and US Attorneys, including grand jury material from investigations and trials. How to know if all materials have been released - Longtime case reporters and victim’s attorneys indicate there are at least 20 names of men accused of sex crimes in FBI files, specifically in the FD-302 forms that memorialize witness testimony. - If the December 19 production contains no names of any male accused of sex crimes or sex trafficking, that would indicate documents have not been fully released. Legal novelty and enforcement - Unlike prior Congress subpoenas that can be delayed or run out the clock, the act imposes a binding legal obligation with no congressional expiration. - If the attorney general is noncompliant, the next attorney general could be obligated to release the files the moment they hold the seat, and there are penalties described in the act (not detailed here). - The act ensures that even if a new administration changes hands (e.g., post-Trump), compliance is enforceable. Impact on grand jury material and redactions - The act prompted movement in grand jury material rulings: after passage, three federal judges (SD Florida, SDNY) ordered that grand jury material be produced to the DOJ, with redactions to protect victims’ identities as required by the act. - Judges indicated they would redact identifying information of victims, aligning with the act’s protections. Contemporary statements and implications - Pam Bondi had claimed substantial material on her desk and later said there was no material besides child sexual abuse material; Massie notes that other material exists and Bondi will need to produce it, potentially requiring her to address prior statements. - Cash Patel testified before the Senate that there is no evidence implicating anyone other than Epstein; Massie questions him in a House Judiciary hearing about three-zero-two forms, suggesting they may contain corroborating evidence implicating others. - If other men are implicated, the evidence would come from victim statements and corroborating witnesses in FBI files, including 302 forms. Upcoming and media appearances - Congress adjourns a day early, so the document release may be observed on Saturday. Massie and Rep. Ro Khanna plan to discuss findings on Face the Nation on Sunday. Ongoing investigations - Bondi announced new federal investigations near the time the bill passed. A bicameral, bipartisan letter seeks a sit-down to discuss what new material justified these investigations. - The act requires that any claims of ongoing investigations affecting release be limited to material that would impact that specific investigation, with temporary redactions as allowed by the law. Massie concludes by promising updates on Friday’s release and compliance with the act, and thanks the audience.

I hope my colleagues are watching this press conference. "What if this was your sister? What if this was your daughter?" "the Washington establishment is asking the American public to believe something that is not believable." "They're asking you to believe that two individuals created hundreds of victims and they acted alone and that the DOJ has no idea of who else might have been involved, that nobody else did anything that rose to a criminal enterprise." "This is not a hoax. This is real." "There are real survivors. There are real victims to this criminal enterprise." "Be one of the next two who sponsors this discharge petition." "If you've looked at the pages released, they're heavily redacted; 97% is already in the public domain." "This is a litmus test. Can we drain the swamp?" "Hopefully, today, we'll get two more signatures on the discharge petition. That's all we need."

The unredacted Epstein files have been shown on Capitol Hill, with Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey beginning to view them. The discussion centers on why large portions of the documents were redacted by the DOJ and why Pam Bondi may not have complied with the Epstein Transparency Act. An ad aired during the Super Bowl urging transparency and truth about the victims and the case is referenced. Ghislain Maxwell, Epstein’s associate, appeared before Congress and pleaded the fifth when asked direct questions. Ro Khanna summarized his view of Maxwell’s deposition: after listening to her refusal to answer questions about the men who raped underage girls, she should be sent back to maximum security rather than stay in a country club setting. The conversation then returns to why the DOJ did not release the names of clients and coconspirators, with Massey highlighting the failure to release those names as a core issue. Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene appeared on Redacted to speak about the Epstein files. She emphasized the victims’ desire for transparency and the public’s right to know the truth, noting the files illustrate violence and possible murder, far beyond what initial perceptions suggested. Greene stated that the release of the files has shown the American people more than many can handle, and she argued that the DOJ is breaking the law by redacting certain names and deleting or redacting information in ways that protect the powerful. She also asserted that the files reveal a vast cover-up involving rich and powerful elites, and she tied the issue to a broader theory of an international deep state. Greene claimed that the problem is not just with individuals like Pam Bondi, but that “the man at the top is Donald Trump,” who she said initially opposed releasing the files and labeled the release a “democrat hoax.” She argued that Bondi works for Trump and that the FBI and other agencies operate under the president’s authority, making independent action difficult. She asserted that the president’s stance has influenced the pace and scope of disclosures, and that those who press for release face political backlash. She also described her confrontation with the two-party system as a “political industrial complex” that punishes dissidents, detailing how Massey and others have faced political and professional retaliation. Greene reflected on the personal cost of pushing for disclosure, recounting the pressure and the “knife in the back” she has felt from colleagues across the aisle. She described the political environment as a “blood sport” in which those pushing for transparency are isolated, while the system rewards conformity. She criticized neocon Republicans and asserted that governance is driven by fear and fundraising rather than principled action. She indicated that, for her, the Epstein issue underscores broader frustrations with Washington and the perceived inability of independent actors to enact change within a two-party framework. Regarding potential remedies, the discussion touched on the possibility of an independent counsel. Greene suggested that the American people themselves are the independent counsel, explaining that trust in politicians to appoint such counsel is limited. She expressed skepticism that the Epstein files will yield accountability, noting that the president warned that “his friends would get hurt.” She stated she does not expect significant resignations or indictments of major figures, including those connected to Israel, but underscored the desire for full transparency and justice for the victims. When asked about listing the names seen in the documents, Greene clarified that the list is held by the women involved and that reading it publicly could expose them to costly lawsuits; she did not have the list herself.

- Kibbe on Liberty hosts Congressman Thomas Massey for part one of a mega episode focusing on the FBI-identified pipe bomber in the January 6 events and the anomalies in the official narrative; Massey argues he does not believe one loner acted alone. - Massey discusses prior coverage and context, noting a Steve Baker interview that documented inconsistencies in the official narrative. He points to fallout from that interview: a Capitol Hill Police official, who was third in command, resigned the day after the interview; another whistleblower contacted Massey about that officer, suggesting misconduct unrelated to the pipe bomb but part of a larger pattern of investigations. - Massey argues that the FBI’s announcement of a suspect came about a week after that interview and after reporting by The Blaze, and suggests the timing is suspicious. He says this coincidence is surprising and potentially a red flag, given that the investigation had been deemed inconclusive or dormant for years. - Massey emphasizes his own context: his staffer on the Hill watched hours of video to identify who found the second pipe bomb; he asserts that the individuals who found the second bomb should be considered suspects, and that the FBI admitted this to him. He recounts efforts with Kevin McCarthy to release video showing how the second pipe bomb was found, noting that those who found it were very lucky to locate it quickly. - He describes other connections and leads: his staffer now works for Kash Patel; Massey has spoken with a counter-surveillance officer who found the pipe bomb and with the officer’s handler, a Capitol Hill Police member who had previously worked for the ATF and later for Metro Police and Capitol Hill Police. He also mentions conversing with the assistant FBI director in charge of the Washington field office, in a transcribed interview with Jim Jordan about why cell phone data wasn’t used to geolocate the suspect (the provider allegedly corrupted data, which the judiciary committee and Barry Loudermilk’s committee disputed). - Massey references a 100-page report from Barry Loudermilk’s committee on the pipe bomb investigation, noting leads the FBI did not follow. He mentions a lead about an individual in Falls Church, Virginia (a former military man now in government service) whose metro card was used on January 5 and January 6; this person’s childhood friend allegedly used the metro card to approach the RNC/Capitol Hill Club area and take photographs near the pipe bomb sites. Massey asserts this person of interest, plus a neighbor who shared a wall with him, could be connected to others the FBI has not fully explored. - He contends that the arrest appears to derail other investigations and interviews that were being planned. He asserts that a “pro-Trump” motive has not been established for the suspect, contrasting the media’s framing with details such as the suspect’s My Little Pony interest and parental political donations. - Massey criticizes the prosecutor in the case, Jocelyn Ballantine, and recounts concerns about her track record (including involvement in the Flynn case, the Proud Boys case, and alleged attempts to obtain confessions implicating Trump). He questions why she remains at the DOJ. - They discuss broader concerns about FBI politicization and surveillance: Massey references reporters and contact with Kash Patel’s team to argue for cleaning house at the FBI, but notes Ballantine remains in place. He describes eight senators discovering they had been spied on, leading to a legislative push: in the last continuing resolution, lawmakers added a half-million-dollar payout and standing to sue the government for surveillance abuses, a provision he characterizes as carving exemptions out of the law; he says this was supported by most lawmakers, who voted for the CR due to Trump concerns. - They debate possible explanations for the pipe bomber case: the possibility that the FBI identified the suspect and cleared him, prompting no arrest due to exonerating information; or the possibility of a false narrative crafted by others to preserve the January 6 prosecution framework; or the involvement of a patsy or rogue actor. - Massey reiterates his three things he said on Twitter: the bomber was a lone wolf (which he disputes); the FBI was unwittingly incompetent for four years (which he says he questions and calls a cover-up); and it was not a Trump supporter. He stresses the need for more transcribed interviews and explanations from the FBI and ongoing oversight to uncover the full truth. - The discussion shifts toward Epstein files coverage and the broader goal of maintaining public pressure for transparency. They indicate a plan to release a separate bonus episode focusing on Epstein files.

Chairman Schiff should be disqualified from running an investigation because his committee members or staff are fact witnesses regarding contact with the whistleblower and the whistleblower process. The speaker has not spoken directly with the whistleblower but would like to. Acclaimed Republican Intelligence Committee members question this.

Well, there's 33,000 pages that have been released. they've basically released everything except for the victim information, which, obviously, we don't release that. One thing to note that today when we're actually talking to some of the victims, one of the women stated that at 14 when Epstein started to victimize her, that she has no recollection of some of the stuff that was done to her. She's hoping to find that out so that she can actually bring to her therapist and continue the healing process in regards to the damage and the trauma that was caused to her. there's a lot of very wealthy bad people. It's actually scary to hear some of the stuff that was brought forward. the only way to collectively attack this is as a group and as a whole, meaning that Democrats and Republicans have to work work together and back up on more subpoenas because I think this is gonna be pretty hairy. Is there more information beyond these 33,000 pages? Well, there's gonna be names. The attorneys kept emphasizing we need to follow-up on the names. These girls are not just making this up. These are some of the wealthiest people probably in the world, and we'll start They told us not to because they don't want those people to start basically burning files. So I think this is going criminal investigation for sure. I know that some of the delay was due to redacting victim information, and so we'll see where it goes.

There are amendments being considered for the Pfizer bill, including one that would require a warrant for every query of lawfully selected data. While I cannot predict the president's decision on a potential veto, we believe that this warrant requirement does not align with U.S. national security interests. I will be discussing this with several members today, emphasizing that the proposed warrant requirement could compromise the protection of Americans' personal privacy. We support other elements of the bill aimed at reforming Pfizer to safeguard civil liberties, but we feel that imposing a warrant requirement would undermine the bill's purpose and potentially endanger victims.

Some Democratic members of Congress are preparing for the possibility of litigation. They're considering if they have the best teams possible to carry out their work. Some Republicans may say that Democrats are weaponizing the Justice Department, citing Trump's trial as an example. But in the United States, we are judged by a jury of our peers. Trump was found guilty in court on 34 felony charges. It's hard to make a partisan argument against that.

Speaker 0 states that more than 3,000,000 pages, including more than 2,000 videos and 180,000 images, were produced, totaling approximately three and a half million pages in compliance with the act. The 2,000 videos and 180,000 images are not all videos and images taken by Mr. Epstein or someone around him; they include large quantities of commercial pornography and images seized from Epstein's devices, but which he did not take or that someone around him did not take. Some of the videos and some of the images do appear to be taken by Mr. Epstein or by others around him. The department’s document identification and review protocols consisted of multiple layers of review and quality control designed to ensure compliance under the act and protect victims. In addition to the department’s review protocols, the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York employed an additional review protocol to ensure compliance with a court order requiring United States Attorney Jay Clayton to certify that with respect to certain materials, a large quantity of the materials, a rigorous process was undertaken to protect victims against any clearly unwarranted invasion of their personal privacy. The department’s collection effort resulted in more than 6,000,000 pages being identified as potentially responsive, including department and FBI emails, interview summaries, images, videos, and various other materials collected and generated during the investigations and prosecutions that the act covered. They erred on the side of overcollecting materials from various sources to best ensure maximum transparency and compliance, which necessarily means that the number of responsive pages is significantly smaller than the total number of pages initially collected. That is why they mentioned releasing more than 3,000,000 pages today and not the 6,000,000 pages that were collected. They address what they didn’t produce. The categories of documents withheld include those permitted under the act to be withheld: files that contain personally identifiable information of victims or victims’ personal and medical files, and similar files, the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. Any depiction of CSAM or child pornography was obviously excluded. Anything that would jeopardize an active federal investigation. And finally, anything that depicts or contains images of death, physical abuse, or injury, also not produced. Although the act allows for withholding for items necessary to keep secrets in the interest of national security or foreign policy,

Congressman Massey says the Epstein files touch "two Americas. One America for the rich and powerful." Epstein allegedly "raping 13 and 14 year olds" boasted of knowing presidents and leaders, yet survivors were told "nothing could be done." He asks for the full release of the files, noting "there are people who have raised that issue who are very credible" and questioning possible involvement by foreign governments or intelligence services. He cites donor pressure and says he has faced "private messages saying this is gonna cost you financial support." Victims fear for safety and have seen the files through their lawyers; they are prepared to release their own list if needed. The files are stored at DOJ, FBI, CIA, and Treasury; "we want the release of all of them." He seeks two more Republican votes and calls this "a moral test" for the country.

There is no client list detailing people Jeffrey Epstein trafficked. Instead, there is a redacted FBI affidavit from accusers accusing various people of improper sex. The speaker, as the former lawyer involved in investigations, knows the identities of those redacted, but claims none are public figures currently in office. Some were previously in office, and some are dead. The redactions are the result of court orders from two judges in Manhattan protecting alleged victims. Pam Bondi, the Justice Department, and Donald Trump are not responsible for these redactions, and the speaker is unaware of any undisclosed information they could release. The speaker claims the vast majority of names in the files are already public knowledge, appearing in articles and books. The speaker believes the media has not done enough to find the people already disclosed in the public record.

The DOJ may not want to release Biden's transcript because Republican leadership altered Nina Jankowitz's transcript by cutting and pasting. Releasing audio would uniquely chill future DOJ investigations, and finding a waiver would punish DOJ for cooperating with Congress. A Republican, Mr. Hehr, found no basis for charging Biden, while a special prosecutor indicted Trump. Republicans claim the transcript and audio are not the same. The audio is the best evidence, and releasing the transcript waived privilege. Merrick Garland should be held in contempt of Congress. Republicans deny altering Jankowicz's transcript, but claim special counsel Robert Hurst stated Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials. He declined prosecution because Biden is a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory, and a jury wouldn't convict. Democrats believe the judiciary committee is dishonest enough to manipulate the video, so that is a good reason to withhold it.

Nick Bryant and Brian (the host) discuss a new tranche of Jeffrey Epstein-related documents and the broader implications of the material that has surfaced. Key points and claims from the conversation: - Torture emails: Four emails in the torture section reference explicit discussions of torture, including an exchange with the UAE Sultan (referred to as “the Sultan”) mentioning a torture video and a note that the Sultan was in China; a Harvard professor, Martin Nowak, with Epstein noting “Did you torture her?”; and an Italian hedge fund partner, with Epstein asking “do you want me to try to do her or just torture her?” These emails raise questions about the cruelty described, with Nick noting that “these are incriminating emails,” while Brian observes that some messages suggest saving details for a phone call. - The broader pattern: Nick emphasizes that Epstein seemingly operated “above the law” and communicated with a circle that believes they are beyond accountability. He notes that some emails include casual references to pizza, muffins, and dinner, but that the torture-related messages are especially ominous. - Zoro Ranch and possible graves: The discussion revisits the Zoro Ranch (New Mexico) with claims about trafficking and possible burials. An extreme email from 2019, allegedly from Edward, describes two foreign girls buried on orders of Epstein and Maxwell, with multiple attached videos and extortion demands. Nick mentions reports that a Fox News story covered stolen USBs containing underage footage, though Fox News reportedly declined to view the material. The possibility that bodies are buried at Zoro Ranch remains a focal point of speculation. - Baby and cloning themes: The conversation covers allegations of a “baby factory” at Zoro Ranch and discussions of human cloning. Nick cites a 1995 Dolly the Sheep milestone and explains how cloning could be technically possible, suggesting Epstein might have been intrigued by the idea of cloning himself. They discuss emails about black market babies and Epstein’s interest in having a baby, with a direct claim that Epstein asked a victim to have his baby. Nick notes that another victim, Rina Oh, described Epstein asking her to have his baby, and that additional victims corroborate similar inquiries. - Eugenics, hormones, and infant development: The dialogue mentions an email from Robert Trevers about hormone manipulation to shape newborns (male/female genitalia) and a UCLA neuroscientist, Mark Trammell, describing “how to enhance a baby’s sucking ability” via a provocative email to Epstein. The pair stress how shocking these emails appear because they involve high-profile academics communicating with Epstein. - Access to classified material and international links: An email allegedly from a former Norwegian prime minister forwarding a “classified” polio report to Bill Gates is cited as an example of Epstein’s access to sensitive information and high-level networks. They question how Epstein could access and share classified data, though they acknowledge his extensive intelligence-community connections. - Intelligence connections and power networks: The discussion explores how Epstein might have operated as a blackmailer within a web of powerful individuals. Nick argues Epstein could not have controlled or coerced the most powerful people on his own; instead, an intelligence-backed network or protection might exist. They reference the possibility that Epstein worked with both Israeli and American intelligence, noting Channel 4’s reporting that only a fraction of the millions of documents have been released, and that Israeli intelligence reportedly installed security systems at Epstein’s Manhattan apartment, which could suggest access to additional material. - Notable named figures and procurement patterns: They discuss Les Wexner (Victoria’s Secret founder), Reid Hoffman, Howard Lutnick, Alan Dershowitz, and others as individuals who should be looked into more deeply. Nick asserts Wexner’s involvement in Epstein’s operations and suggests that some procureurs—like Sarah Kellen, Leslie Groff, Adriana Marcincova, and Adriana Ross—could be indicted if the government shows the will to prosecute. They maintain that a congressional commission could reveal why child trafficking was covered up and who perpetrated it. - Legal and political action: Nick promotes Epstein Justice (epsteinjustice.com) and advocates for an independent congressional commission comprised of non-government personnel to investigate and prosecute perpetrators. He argues that, with political will, authorities could file indictments and compel witnesses to testify. Surprising or unique elements emphasized: - The extent of explicit torture discussions in Epstein-related emails and their potential implications for criminal liability. - The assertion of a “baby factory” at Zoro Ranch and the possibility of baby-related genetic or reproductive experiments involving Epstein’s circle. - Claims of frequent, direct engagement with high-level public figures and academics on ethically or legally egregious topics, including cloning, hormone manipulation in infants, and sexual exploitation. - The suggestion that Epstein’s material could be tied to intelligence agencies (Israeli and American), with security systems installed by the Israeli government at Epstein’s residence used as potential evidence of deeper access to incriminating material. Concluding note: Nick urges ongoing public pressure for an independent congressional commission to uncover why child trafficking was allegedly covered up and to prosecute perpetrators, stressing that investigators would need to rely on the testimony of victims who feel safe to come forward.

I was the second cosponsor on Thomas Massey's resolution. After reading the entire resolution, I think it's a it's very good. It's it's well written. It protects the victims, and it it provides the transparency that the country deserves and most importantly, the survivors deserve. I will be proudly signing the discharge petition. 'transparency on all levels.' 'this shouldn't have been a battle, and unfortunately, it has been one.' 'a cabal of powerful, rich people as well as the government cover this up and not prosecute these monsters.' 'these are some of the most courageous women I've ever met.' 'So there's information in many different places, and it'll require quite a pursuit.' 'I haven't talked to anybody from the White House trying to undercut it.' 'No. I haven't been asked to not sign.' 'I sat by him in our meeting and listened to his compassion for these survivors.'

Democrats reportedly rejected another push to make purchasing or soliciting sex from a 16 or 17 year old an automatic felony. They also sidelined Democratic Assembly Member Maggie Krell, who has focused on this issue. Krell's original proposal for an automatic felony for older teens was blocked by the public safety committee. Krell noted that state laws are inconsistent for the trafficker and the buyer. One speaker argued that arresting the buyers, who create the demand, is key to stopping human trafficking. The debate is expected to continue until the felony is potentially enacted. There is urgency to address the victimization of 16 and 17 year olds.

Bigger than I think anyone anticipated. We are going to be requesting the SARS reports from treasury and following up on that. There are some very rich and powerful people that need to go to jail. It is very much so possibility that Jeffrey Epstein was a intelligence asset working for our adversaries, but also to, the questions that we have is how much did our own government know about it? More to follow; you'll be hearing from the chairman momentarily. I applaud the victims from coming forward because we heard from a woman who is as young as 14 years old when she was victimized multiple times by Jeffrey Epstein. “Have you signed a discharge petition, nasty discharge petition?” The files will probably be released prior. I don't know why Comer hasn't. I've been a huge advocate even when I was the only one in congress calling for the release of this file. How much did they call from with this victim today? We want those files released, the victims want information to be out there but they don't want their personal information. The attorney general stated that there's victim information that you have to make sure that's private being that some of the victims also too are as young as 14, that's child child pornography.

Bezos owning the Washington Post is described as an arm of the CIA, a claim raised by Speaker 0. He suggests that the newspaper is part of a broader pattern where media power is consolidated in the hands of a few billionaires, accusing the outlet of being used to push a particular agenda. Speaker 1 responds dismissively to that assertion and mentions Ellison taking over of [text incomplete in the transcript], signaling ongoing concerns about who controls major media and institutions. The conversation continues with Speaker 0 asserting that Barry Weiss is trying to squash real news and hide it, and that reporters who are doing real journalism are being targeted, framed as investigations or actions run by a few billionaires who control much of the media landscape. A related critique follows, declaring Bill Clinton a “slimeball” for deregulating the Federal Communications Act of 1996. The speakers reference the consequence that there were thousands of independent radio stations, television stations, and newspapers before deregulation, and now six companies control 92% of the media as a result of that action, calling Clinton a “lousy little slime ball.” The discussion moves into personal remarks about Monica Lewinsky, with a claim that “I didn’t have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky,” followed by derisive language directed at Bill Clinton, describing him as “that little clown.” The conversation then shifts to the Epstein files, with frustration expressed about why those files are not being released. The speakers criticize the redaction of the Epstein files and question, “Where the hell are these Epstein files?” They argue that the redactions are to protect individuals, using charged language to describe the situation as disgusting, and they call for the files to be made public. The topic then turns to the DOJ’s handling of redactions related to Congressman Thomas Massey. The DOJ reportedly missed deadlines to provide reasons for the redactions to Massey and “walked right past his deadline.” The speakers say they interviewed Massey on the show, reiterating that the DOJ violated the deadline and ignored the will of the people, with the DOJ referred to as the “DOJ, Department of Jerkoffs.” Finally, Massey is praised as one of the top lawmakers, described as one of the few in Congress who is truly respected, and “one of a kind,” with Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 expressing strong admiration for his work and integrity.

In the discussion, Congressmen Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie were shown viewing the unredacted Epstein files on Capitol Hill, including material that had been previously redacted by the DOJ. The hosts question why large portions of the files were redacted and accuse Pam Bondi’s team of noncompliance with the Epstein Transparency Act. They suggest the move to foreground Bondi is a signal of political maneuvering to manage the release of the documents. Speaker 1 presents a Super Bowl ad urging the DOJ to release what the law requires, followed by a note that Epstein’s associate and alleged child sex trafficking figure Ghislain (Ghislaine) Maxwell appeared before Congress and invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked about the men who allegedly abused underage girls. Ro Khanna’s reaction is shared: Maxwell should not be in a cushy setting and should be sent back to maximum security. Speaker 2 emphasizes that, of the files released, the names of clients and coconspirators in the sex trafficking ring have not been disclosed, while victims’ names have been released. This is framed as either over-redaction or omission, with a claim that government names should not be redacted under the Transparency Act. Speaker 0 introduces Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who explains her perspective. She notes the urgency of transparency and states that victims deserve the truth, accusing the DOJ of failing to comply with the Epstein Transparency Act and calling out a persistent “battle” over the release of files even after the 2025 law. Speaker 3 (Greene) describes the impact of the disclosures, noting that the files reveal “violence, possibly murder,” and that survivors’ testimonies are harrowing. She recounts facing personal and political backlash for pushing disclosure, arguing that the administration and many Republicans have shifted their positions since the revelations. She asserts that the released files show that “the DOJ breaking the law” through redactions of names of former presidents, secretaries of state, and government officials, while leaving victim information exposed. Speaker 4 asks Greene about the possibility that the information might point to a broader, deeper network. Greene responds by stating that the files include FBI forms about Epstein, implying a level of official involvement, and asserts that the Trump administration has not released the information; she claims President Trump referred to the Epstein issue as a “Democrat hoax” and that Pam Bondi, who works for Trump, controls the release. Greene suggests the “independent counsel” would be the American people themselves, explaining distrust toward political figures and the two-party system. She shares that she would not vote to support foreign aid or a central bank digital currency, and notes the chilling effect of the retaliation she and Massey have faced from party structures, including loss of campaign staff and suggestions of political blacklisting. Speaker 0 asks about potential accountability or a special counsel and whether there might be more significant revelations. Greene predicts limited accountability, arguing that the president has influence over DOJ and other agencies, and that the people are the true independent counsel. She laments the “uni-party” dynamic and predicts continued resistance to releasing the full Epstein files. Towards the end, Greene reiterates that she does not plan to run for higher office and reflects on the broader political environment, emphasizing that the public’s demand for transparency could drive change. The dialogue closes with Greene expressing willingness to return and discuss further.

The withheld documents fall into categories permitted under the act. Specifically, files containing personally identifiable information of victims or victims’ personal and medical files and similar files, the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, are withheld. Any depiction of CSAM or child pornography is excluded. Anything that would jeopardize an active federal investigation is withheld. Additionally, anything that depicts or contains images of death, physical abuse, or injury is not produced. Although the act allows for withholding for items necessary to keep secret in the interest of national security or foreign policy, no files are being withheld or redacted on that basis.

Speaker 0 shows notes the attorney general brought to the hearing, captured by a photographer in the room. The notes include a list of Democratic congresswomen and their search history. The photo indicates that searches performed by members of Congress at a DOJ facility—where they sit at a computer to search unredacted files—are being tracked and read by the Department of Justice and the attorney general. Speaker 1 responds that this represents a surveillance of Congress by the Trump administration and calls it totally improper, though not surprising given their misconduct in various areas. He notes that when he visited the facility, they log in under each person’s name, implying an attempt to make something of the situation. He states that members who visited shared the information they found, and emphasizes that it is not a pretty picture. He adds that lawmakers were required under the law to remove redactions unless necessary to protect the privacy of victim survivors. In his view, the redactions were used to protect offenders and coconspirators, with their names blacked out. He contends that information about the survivors was actually revealed, which he says was very wrong and contrary to the law. He also suggests that many survivors feel the exposure was deliberate, intended to intimidate them and silence them, though he says he does not know if that is true. The statement ends with “The other thing that's inter” before the transcript cuts off.