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The speaker discusses the US plan to expand NATO to Ukraine, despite Ukrainian opposition. Viktor Yanukovych's neutrality stance angers the US, leading to a crisis and coup in 2013. US involvement in the insurrection is evident, with senators openly supporting the demonstrators in Kiev. Victoria Nuland's actions, including distributing cookies, further highlight US interference in Ukraine.

Sherwin recalls, along with insights from Dan Ellsberg, that the government is full of "stupid people" lacking common sense, making nuclear war a real possibility. Reckless actions include Nancy Pelosi's Taiwan visit and G7 meetings attacking China and Russia. Diplomats have warned about these dangers for decades, as revealed by WikiLeaks and Bill Burns' 2008 memo cautioning against NATO enlargement. George Kennan also warned against NATO expansion in 1997. Zvi Brzezinski outlined a plan in 1997 to incorporate Ukraine into NATO, years before Putin's presidency. Victoria Nuland, described as a deep state figure, has been involved in multiple administrations. She was ambassador to NATO when Ukraine was invited to join and was a key figure in the overthrow of Viktor Yanukovych in 2014, which initiated the war. Her promotion is bringing the world closer to disaster, using Ukraine as a proxy in a war that is destroying the country.

The speaker claims the Russia-Ukraine war is an extension of Russiagate, which desensitized the Democratic party to hating Russia. According to the speaker, Democrats needed an explanation for Trump's victory besides their own failures, and initially blamed Cambridge Analytica. When that didn't satisfy, the "Russia narrative" emerged. The speaker says Russiagate led Democrats to view Russia negatively, beyond a normal Western perspective, as if Trump were a Kremlin attaché. Thus, after Putin's invasion of Ukraine, the Democrat party, formerly anti-war, showed a subdued response to funding the war. The speaker suggests this is because Putin became an acceptable villain, conflated with Trump, due to Russiagate. Another speaker adds that many were pro-Russia when it was Soviet because it was anti-Christian, but turned against it when it became Orthodox again. The speaker concludes that skepticism about sending money to Ukraine, once a left-wing position, was subdued because Putin became an acceptable villain for the Democrat party.

I was the first to advocate for a reasonable peace deal in Ukraine. Many neocons are now starting to agree, except for Nikki Haley and Joe Biden who still support the war. Neither of them can even name three provinces in Eastern Ukraine that they want to send our troops to fight for. It's important to reject the myth that foreign policy experience is gained by having a short stint at the UN and then making millions. It takes an outsider to see the truth. The puppet managers, the donors, are the ones pulling the strings.

There is basically one deep state party, exemplified by figures like Victoria Nuland, who has influenced foreign policy across administrations for 30 years. This party's policies have remained consistent regardless of whether a Republican or Democrat is in office. Republicans and Democrats are like Tweedledee and Tweedledum, with the possible exception of former President Trump, who vowed to beat back the deep state but failed. The deep state refers to the administrative state, composed of bureaucrats in institutions like the Pentagon and State Department, who have a vested interest in pursuing a particular foreign policy. Putin noted that presidents enter office with ideas, but "men in dark suits and blue ties" explain the way the world is, and the ideas disappear. This entrenched foreign policy has been in place for decades, and even Trump hired deep state figures like John Bolton, who admitted to circumventing Trump's wishes.

- Democrats' spending caused inflation, and Biden's administration ignited global unrest after a peaceful period under Trump. Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal was botched, and NATO expansion talks provoked Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Opportunities for peace were rejected, leading to a prolonged war with mass casualties and depleted US stockpiles. - The US has a history of military interventions, including the bombing of Belgrade, and illegal wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria, as well as involvement in the 2014 coup in Kyiv. The US government cannot be trusted. - NATO expansion was promised not to move "one inch eastward" but Clinton signed off on plans to expand NATO to Ukraine. The US unilaterally withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002, leading to missile systems in Eastern Europe that Russia views as a threat. - Putin sought to force Ukraine to negotiate neutrality, aiming to keep NATO off Russia's border. The US rejected negotiations, and a draft Russia-US security agreement proposing no NATO enlargement. - Germany has aligned with the US, supporting NATO expansion, but previously had an independent foreign policy. Merkel knew NATO expansion was a bad idea but gave in to US pressure. - The US is in a hot war with Russia, with US personnel on the ground in Ukraine. Russia could disable critical American infrastructure. - The war in Ukraine is a US-Russia conflict provoked by the US with the aim of NATO enlargement. The American people have been told the opposite. - The war started in 2014 with US involvement in the overthrow of Ukraine's government. The US rejected off-ramps and continues to fund the war, resulting in Ukrainian deaths and territorial losses. - The US should negotiate with Russia, acknowledging mutual security concerns and halting NATO enlargement. - The US is trying to destroy Russia through CIA operations in Ukraine. Russia is defending its right to survive. - Globalists aim to exploit Ukraine's resources and destroy Russia. The BRICS nations are moving towards a gold-backed currency. - The US has invested billions in Ukraine since 1991 to support a democratic government. Zelenskyy's team is adding fuel to the fire. - The US blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, as promised by Biden. - The US is turning Ukraine into a de facto member of NATO.

The truth about US interference in Ukraine, dating back to WWII when CIA worked with Ukrainian Nazis, led to the rise of extremist groups like Svoboda and Right Sector. Yanukovych's refusal of IMF's offer sparked a US-backed coup orchestrated by the State Department and Joe Biden. The push for war against Russia serves globalist interests, not patriotism.

The Svoboda Party, formerly known as the Social Nationalist Party, has ties to Nazi Germany and its leader, Holitanybok, has openly targeted Jews and ethnic Russians. Despite being condemned as racist and antisemitic, the US government worked with them, thinking they could control the situation. Victoria Nuland from the US State Department met with Svoboda and was caught on a leaked call discussing who they would put in power. They debated whether Klitschko should be in the government and ultimately decided against it. The focus was on manipulating the situation in their favor.

They prioritize endless work for ideological and financial reasons. A notable example is Tulsi Gabbard, who, despite her liberal views, was quickly promoted to vice chair of the DNC. However, when she questioned U.S. opposition to Assad, she became an enemy to the establishment. Hillary Clinton labeled her as "the favorite of the Russians," highlighting the harsh criticism she faced from fellow Democrats. The Democratic Party is influenced by the foreign policy establishment and the military-industrial complex. They emphasize the importance of NATO and military support for Ukraine, revealing their focus on war as a source of funding. This contrasts with Trump's opposition to such conflicts.

The opposition in Ukraine includes extremist groups like Svoboda, which has ties to Nazi Germany. The leader of Svoboda, Holitanybok, has openly targeted Jews and ethnic Russians. Despite being condemned by the EU, the US government backed these extremists, thinking they could control the situation. Victoria Nuland from the US State Department was caught on a leaked call discussing who they would put in power. They didn't think Klitschko should be part of the government.

Apparently, the strategy is to weaken Russia, which is essentially a state of war. The aim is to remove Putin, replace his administration, and potentially divide Russia. This stems from the neoconservative movement, which has always been anti-Soviet and anti-Russian, pushing for a strong, challenging America. However, America can't challenge Russia, especially since the U.S. military isn't ready for war. The U.S. is using the Ukrainian military as cannon fodder, fighting over pride and fear of a Russian/Chinese economic takeover. America shouldn't go to war for trade, even if it means becoming number two or three economically. The world is multipolar, but the U.S. hasn't accepted this. People don't realize how destructive even a limited war would be. The situation is much more dangerous than people realize because America is too prideful and arrogant and will be nasty when it doesn't get its way in Ukraine.

Checklist: - Identify the core timeline and security-related turning points shaping Russia–US/West relations. - Preserve the sequence of events and the key claims as stated. - Exclude filler, repetition, and off-topic discussion. - Highlight unique or surprising assertions without adding new judgments. - Translate only if needed; here, keep as original English. Putin was not anti-American or anti-West when he came to power; he wanted normal relations. Even then this did not set things on an inevitable course, but the real changes that put things in a disastrous course were on the security side. First, the expansion of NATO, then the bombing of Belgrade in 1999, seventy eight straight days of some harebrained, terrible scheme of Madeleine Albright, to break apart Serbia, which was Russia's ally, and create Kosovo and put the largest NATO military base, Bundesliga, in Kosovo to cover Southeast Europe. Putin watched that. He didn't like that at all. Then came 9/11, and Putin said, okay. We wanna cooperate with you. We can help. We also face insurgencies. We don't we don't like this. The US more or less brushed Russia off at that point. In 02/2002, The US did something even more provocative and profound, which was to abandon the anti ballistic missile treaty. This for Russia was a first class security disaster, because the ABM treaty was viewed as a protection against The US nuclear first strike, and this was viewed in an incredibly harsh way by Russia, and it is a massive danger. Then immediately in 2003 came the Iraq invasion over Russia's absolute objections over the UN Security Council, absolute objections. Then in 2004 came a NATO enlargement to seven more countries, including the three Baltic states, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, including two Black Sea countries, Bulgaria and Romania, and including two Balkans countries, Slovakia and Slovenia. So by 02/2007, then the the temperature was up to here, and president Putin gave at the Munich Security Conference a very strong message. Stop this. Stop this. You are pressing right up against our red lines. Do not go further. And then famously, in 02/2008, The US announced a policy that had actually been adopted fourteen years earlier, but it made it public, which was the demand that NATO would enlarge to Ukraine and to Georgia in the Caucasus. And this for Russia was unbelievable. Now Russia would be surrounded by NATO in the Black Sea region. And European leaders at the time called me privately. What is your president doing? This is so reckless, so provocative. By the way, many of these same leaders now are completely mum. We love The United States. This has nothing to do with NATO. This war, of course, it's about NATO. The whole thing is about NATO. It's always been about NATO. And this was true in 02/2008. And then quickly to bring the story up to date, in 02/2011, again, these neocons doubled down. We're gonna overthrow Syria, where Russia happens to have a a naval base. We're going to overthrow Libya, where Russia has an ally. And we then took steps and in 2014 overthrew the government of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, on 02/22/2014. This was a coup in which The US played a significant role. Sad to say, I saw some of it with my own eyes, which I did not wanna see, but I did see some of it with my own eyes. The US was up to its neck in that coup. And of course, the Russians knew it. They even did us a favor of intercepting Victoria Nuland's phone call with the The US ambassador to Ukraine, Jeffrey Piot, who's now a senior state department official. Victoria Nuland's my colleague at Columbia University, unbelievably.

Glenn opens by noting a year has passed since Jeffrey Sachs urged Europe to adopt a realistic foreign policy that understands Russia, Europe, and the United States, and to avoid being invaded by the U.S.—even suggesting Trump could land troops in Greenland. Glenn asks how to read the current situation, including Davos and Europe’s anger at U.S. hostility, and the revived emphasis on international law. Jeffrey Sachs responds with a version of the “ride on the back of a tiger” metaphor from Kennedy, arguing Europeans forgot that the United States is an imperial power that has acted brazenly and brutally for about twenty years. He lists U.S. actions: invasions, regime changes, and reckless interference in Ukraine, and U.S. complicity in Israel’s wars across Africa and the Middle East, along with involvement in overthrowing Ukraine’s Yanukovych and other interventions. He claims Europeans were silent or complicit as the United States bombed Iran, kidnapped its president, and pursued Greenland, calling the Greenland push a grotesque power grab by Trump. He asserts New York Times recognition of U.S. imperial tendencies and says Europe’s naivete and hypocrisy are evident. He states: “The United States is thuggish, imperialistic, reckless, and that The U. S. Has left a large swath of the world in misery. Europe has been mostly compliant or complicit.” He urges Europeans to understand what the United States is about, to stop Russophobia, and to keep lines of communication with Russia open; he argues Europe’s Russophobia made it boxed in with little diplomacy with Russia or the U.S. Glenn adds that Europe’s stance mirrors a Cold War-like unity against Russia, but that the current reality differs: the U.S. does not view Russia as its main adversary, and Russophobia deepens Europe’s dependence on the U.S. Glenn notes mixed reactions at Davos, including Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney signaling a shift away from a rules-based order that privileges the West, and Macron’s private message to Trump seeking a cooperative stance on Syria, Iran, and Greenland. He remarks that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg praised NATO while Trump hinted that the real enemy is within NATO, highlighting the chaos. He asks if this signals a decline of the U.S. empire or NATO. Sachs discusses Carney's stance as significant: Carney’s trip to China and a dialogue with Beijing indicating diversification with China, including a Canadian-Chinese investment plan. He credits Carney with being a rare straightforward statesman and notes instability ahead. Trump’s Davos retreat from threats (notably Greenland) may have been influenced by stock-market declines, according to Sachs’ theory. He mentions a possible European concession about U.S. sovereignty over parts of Greenland, though he doubts any negotiation has been meaningful. He cites Scott Bessent’s Fox Business interview as revealing: sanctions on Iran are a form of economic statecraft designed to crush the Iranian economy, with Iran’s currency collapse and bank failures cited as evidence; Sachs condemns this as a violation of international law and UN Charter, and calls Bessent’s pride in wielding currency-destabilization as alarming. He points to sanctions against Cuba and a broader pattern of “thuggish gangster behavior” by the U.S., noting Europeans’ silence on Iran and other regimes until it backfires on them. Sachs argues Europe’s Russophobia is self-destructive, and he emphasizes that diplomacy remains possible if Germany, France, and Italy adopt a rational approach. He criticizes Germany for duplicity in NATO enlargement and Minsk II, blaming Merkel for dropped commitments, and notes that Italy shows less Russophobia and could shift toward diplomacy. He believes Central Europe and some leaders (e.g., Orban, Czech and Slovak figures) favor diplomacy, but German leadership has been weak. He stresses that Europe must avoid dismemberment and choose diplomacy with Russia, warning that continued war policy will leave Europe isolated. He closes with optimism that there remains a path forward if key European powers act differently. Glenn thanks Sachs for the discussion and ends.

The conversation involves Victoria Nuland, a top US diplomat for Europe, and US ambassador to Ukraine, Jeff Pyatt. They discussed UN involvement to "glue" the situation, along with the EU. Since 1991, the US has invested over $5 billion in Ukraine to build democratic skills and institutions, promote civic participation and good governance, and help Ukraine achieve its European aspirations. The US is interested in Ukraine because protesters want closer ties to Europe, not Russia. The US has historically fought to prevent a relationship between Germany and Russia, fearing their combined power. The US fears German technology and capital combined with Russian natural resources and manpower.

One name to watch is Victoria Nuland, who has a lot at stake regarding Ukraine, which I believe is one big money laundering operation. What Elon Musk has revealed is only the outflow of dollars. The full cycle of funding—where the money goes in Europe and how it flows back into the pockets of people in the United States—has yet to be demonstrated, but I am aware of it. I believe Trump and Elon will discover that people like Victoria Nuland will feel the pain as they are at the center of this. Zelensky is an actor with a great relationship with Putin. In the coming weeks or months, we will discover things about Zelensky that will upset the American people regarding money flowing back into the US and into the pockets of people in Washington DC. It will be ugly and involve the entire establishment.

I want to bring attention to Anne Applebaum's recent piece in the Atlantic and her connection to Polish Foreign Minister Sikorsky. She's a prominent voice for the globalist faction, and her article attacks figures like Dragesco for using social media effectively. She accuses them of being Russian agents and using bots, despite a lack of evidence of election interference. Applebaum's article goes after various Americans, including Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, and Kash Patel, labeling them as cultists or worse. The globalists are showing their true colors because they're scared. Our efforts and the political shift happening, particularly after 2024, are terrifying them. They fear the spread of populist nationalism and what we call MAGA world peace.

Russia is consistently portrayed as acting against American interests, particularly with its alliance with China and its invasion of Ukraine. This action, while wrong, was driven by Russia's concern over Ukraine potentially joining NATO and becoming a satellite of the United States with American weapons. The speaker argues that Ukraine's government isn't fully sovereign, alleging it was installed by a CIA coup. They highlight that during peace talks in Istanbul, a potential agreement was disrupted by the US, leading to further devastation and loss of life in Ukraine. The speaker questions why the U.S. is at war with Russia.

War over Ukraine and Western support 'was an extension of Russiagate,' desensitizing the Democrat party to hate Russia. 'Cambridge Analytica' was the first attempt, and 'the Russia narrative came ex nihilo.' 'Tulsi is getting to the bottom of it.' 'Putin became an acceptable villain for the Democrat party' and 'That all goes back to Russiagate' and 'the lie of the dirty dossier.' 'Our intel services are supposed to gather intelligence and defend the homeland' but are 'actually more about picking winners and losers' and 'thwarting the will of pop popular sovereignty.' 'Obama personally ordered an intel report' concluding 'Russia was not behind this election' (December 2016, now declassified). 'FBI and the CIA' seem to be on the same page and 'the insurance policy' leads to 'Rosenstein' 'running the entire DOJ.' Perp walks are called for to address the 'fourth branch of government'—'unaccountable' and 'unelected.'

The speaker claims: "we overthrew, Iraq with military force coming in from across the globe to overthrow Iraq." "We have gone in, and we have overthrown, Ukraine, with military force from the other side of the globe." "and, we we were the source of both of these conflicts, and it's very unfortunate because the American people are not are not like this." "It's just it's the foreign policy establishment." "Zelensky is a is a puppet." "He does what he is told, when he is told, and they you know, the the people who control him decided that if they put him in a green T shirt, he would look like a hero, so they they had him wear a green T shirt." "This is a fellow who is a comedy actor." "He is a creation of the media out of whole cloth." "He he really didn't exist as as anything until the media created an image of him, very much like a like a play actor."

Globalist elites control governments via financial markets, institutions, and mainstream media. They don't represent the interests of Europeans or most Americans, but their own, and their agenda is to destroy Russia. They want to replace Putin because Russia is the last major European power with a national identity, language, and culture based on orthodox Christianity, making it the enemy of globalists. Globalists have flooded Western countries with non-Europeans to dilute, weaken, and destroy national identity and culture, and eliminate Christianity's cultural power. They want to do the same to Russia, which has enormous mineral, agricultural, oil, gas, and rare metal resources. Destroying the Russian government, removing Putin, and entering Russia would allow them to strip its resources and enrich themselves further. Russia is holding out.

Trump criticized the military industrial complex and the foreign policy establishment, blaming them for the current war. He specifically mentioned Victoria Nuland, comparing her to Fauci in terms of responsibility. Nuland was involved in backing an insurrection in Ukraine in 2014, which led to strained relations with Russia and the subsequent seizure of Crimea. Trump's willingness to address this issue is noteworthy.

Putin was unhappy with Speaker 1 for raising concerns about the unfairness of Russia's 2011 parliamentary elections. Putin is paranoid about mass movements near Russia that could lead to democracy, closer ties with the EU, or NATO membership. The speaker believes Russia is still interfering with U.S. democracy by influencing opinions and election systems. She believes she was an obstacle to Russia's plans to undermine U.S. democracy and impose authoritarian control, and that Russia wanted to remove her to achieve other goals. Russia is still stirring up trouble and influencing people on social media, including efforts to undermine the Affordable Care Act to cause political disruption. Electing a president was only part of Russia's plan. Putin aims to undermine democracies using money, blackmail, and inducements to bend political and business leaders to his will. The speaker doesn't know if Trump is a witting or unwitting tool of Putin, but believes Putin is playing a long game to undermine democracies.

We need to clean house and remove warmongers, globalists, and the deep state from America. Unlike previous presidents, I didn't start a war because I rejected the advice of Washington's generals, bureaucrats, and diplomats who only know how to get us into conflict. People like Victoria Nuland have been pushing Ukraine towards NATO for years. In my next four years, the war mongers, frauds, and failures in our government will be gone.

Victoria Nuland, the top US diplomat for Europe, had a phone call with the US ambassador to Ukraine, Jeff Pyatt. They discussed getting Seri and Ban Ki Moon to help "glue" things together with UN and EU assistance. Since 1991, the US has invested over $5 billion in Ukraine to build democratic skills and institutions, promote civic participation and good governance, and help Ukraine achieve its European aspirations. The US primordial interest has been the relationship between Germany and Russia, as united, they are the only force that could threaten the US. The US primordial fear is German technology and capital combined with Russian natural resources and manpower.

The discussion focuses on Victoria Nuland, the U.S. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs, and her significant role in the Ukraine conflict. Nuland is portrayed as a key figure who instigated the war by promoting U.S. interests in weakening Russia, drawing on her background and personal motivations tied to historical grievances. The narrative explores her career trajectory, connections to influential figures like her husband Robert Kagan, and her involvement in the 2014 Maidan Revolution. It suggests that her actions have led to the current state of corruption in Ukraine, which, in turn, has fueled the ongoing conflict with Russia. The speaker expresses concern over the potential for escalation and the broader implications of Nuland's influence on U.S. foreign policy and global stability.