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The speaker compliments the president on his shirt and mentions that Trump won. They ask the president what he plans to do to stop the war in Ukraine once he becomes the 47th president. The president responds by saying that he would start by calling two people: Putin and Zelensky. He would arrange a meeting and guarantee that he could work out a deal. The president mentions that he knows exactly what he would say to each person and that a deal would be made within 24 hours.

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Speaker 0 calls to pressure Russia, noting that 'the credibility of these efforts these efforts we are undertaking today are depending on at least a ceasefire from the beginning of the serious negotiations from next step on.' He emphasizes 'this aspect' and states he would 'like to see a ceasefire from the next meeting, which should be a trilateral meeting wherever it take place.' He adds, 'Well, we're gonna let the president go over and talk to the president.' The remarks frame the demand for a ceasefire as a prerequisite for serious negotiations and indicate the next meeting should be trilateral, with discussions transitioning to the presidents.

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Speaker argues that "For that that would be a critical mistake." He references "president Trump" and says that "if he were president, there would be no war." He adds, "I personally believe that is the case." He asserts, "There would be no war had president Trump been president at that time because myself and president Trump have had very good trust based relations." He concludes, "And I'm confident that if we had stayed on that path, we could move as quickly as possible to a resolution of the conflict in Ukraine." Overall, the speaker emphasizes trust with Trump and a swift path to Ukraine resolution.

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So, we just had a very intense meeting between President Trump, Vice President Vance, and Zelensky. Vance suggested diplomacy for peace, but Zelensky quickly shot that down, bringing up a past broken deal with Putin, and questioned what kind of diplomacy Vance was even talking about. Vance responded by mentioning that Zelensky was being disrespectful. Trump then intervened, telling Zelensky not to dictate how they should feel, pointing out Ukraine's weak position and the risk of gambling with World War III. I made it clear that my alignment is with the United States and the world's well-being. I need to be able to negotiate without the kind of hatred Zelensky has for Putin, which makes reaching a deal difficult. I reminded everyone that without the United States, Ukraine has no leverage.

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Donald Trump started the war in Ukraine, not Joe Biden, and Russia is aware of this. Despite Trump's unpredictability, Russia will engage in diplomacy with the U.S. Trump's alleged leaked 2024 campaign statement, where he threatened to bomb Moscow if Putin moved into Kyiv, was never made, portraying Trump as a liar in the eyes of the Russians. Sanctions are not a credible threat because Russia doesn't care about them, and its major partners won't yield. Trump's claim of providing 17 weapon batteries to Ukraine is unrealistic, as countries like Germany, Spain, and the Netherlands cannot readily supply that many. Germany won't provide transit support until they receive replacements, and the U.S. is prioritizing Israel and replenishing its own stocks. Trump's proposition to Mark Rutte involves the Netherlands giving up its weapons to Ukraine and then buying them from the U.S. at no cost to America. Rutte should instead tell Trump to leave NATO because he is useless. This is not a serious proposal, but posturing to appease the Republican base who oppose aid to Ukraine.

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What if Russia breaks the ceasefire or peace talks? What do we do then? Okay, what if they broke it? I don't know. They broke it with Biden because they didn't respect him, or Obama. They respect me.

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Presidents Putin, Zelensky, and Biden should prioritize peace for Ukraine by agreeing to its neutrality. This means Ukraine would not join NATO or form military alliances with Russia, addressing security concerns for both the US and NATO, as well as Russia. By ensuring there are no Russian or NATO troops on each other's borders, the Ukrainian people can live in peace.

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I can be tougher than anyone, but that's not how you make deals. We had a president who talked tough about Putin, but Putin still invaded Ukraine. Diplomacy is the path to peace and prosperity. America is a good country when it engages in diplomacy, like President Trump is doing. Putin occupied parts of Ukraine, including Crimea, back in 2014. Obama was president then, followed by Trump, then Biden, and now potentially Trump again. Nobody stopped Putin back then. People were dying on the contact line. I even signed a ceasefire deal with him in 2019, along with Macron and Merkel, but he broke it, killed our people, and didn't exchange prisoners.

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President Zelenskyy needs to apologize for turning our meeting into a fiasco by being antagonistic. He undermined our efforts to bring about peace by attacking Putin and making maximalist demands. This makes us question whether he truly wants a peace deal. Our goal is to explore whether peace is possible and get Russia to the negotiating table. I question whether Zelenskyy is willing to do what's needed for a negotiation. Despite reports, we are coordinating with the Ukrainians. President Trump wants to bring an end to this unsustainable, bloody war. He's the only leader who has a chance of achieving this. Zelenskyy should be thanking and supporting President Trump for his efforts to help bring an end to this war.

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It's tough to make a deal because of the hatred towards Putin. I want to align with the world and Europe to get this done. I can be tougher than anyone, but that won't get us a deal. For four years, we had a president who talked tough about Putin, and then Putin invaded Ukraine. Diplomacy is the path to peace. Putin occupied parts of Ukraine in 2014. From 2014 to 2022, people were dying, despite conversations and ceasefire agreements with Macron and Merkel. He broke the ceasefire and didn't exchange prisoners. What kind of diplomacy is that? You're gambling with World War Three and disrespecting this country. Have you said thank you once? We gave you $350 billion and military equipment. If you could get a ceasefire right now, take it. I gave you javelins while Obama gave you sheets.

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President Trump is upset with President Zelensky, and rightfully so. The Biden administration had their own frustrations with Zelensky. I was personally upset when Zelensky rejected a mineral rights deal we discussed, especially after we presented it as a security guarantee. President Trump's message isn't that we don't care about Ukraine, but it's on another continent and doesn't directly impact Americans. Some gratitude is expected, and Zelensky's accusations of disinformation are counterproductive. President Trump is transparent and won't be manipulated. He's willing to work on peace if Zelensky is a partner. Regarding a meeting between President Trump and President Putin, it won't happen until we have an agenda and expected outcomes. The timing depends on progress in ending the war in Ukraine. If President Trump can seal a peace deal, it should be celebrated, because he is the only global leader that can make this happen, others have tried and failed.

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Zelenskyy said many remarkable and disturbing things, like when he repeatedly rejected President Trump's statement that we should pursue a ceasefire. How could you reject a ceasefire? He also kept saying Europe is doing so much more than us, which begs the question: what do you need us for? If Europe is so great, why are you begging us for money, protection, and guarantees? President Trump is a peacemaker, having brought peace for four years during his previous term. Today, we saw what it's like to have a strong leader in the White House, and the whole world witnessed the strength of American leadership.

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Vladimir Putin is seen as smart and tough by the speaker, who emphasizes the need for peaceful negotiations rather than name-calling. The speaker criticizes past actions by the US and European leaders regarding Ukraine, urging for dialogue and diplomacy to prevent conflict. The focus is on avoiding war and finding peaceful solutions through negotiation, referencing historical examples like the Cuban Missile Crisis. Peaceful negotiations are emphasized over insults and aggression.

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Speaker 0 says the other side hates Putin and "I could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen. I'd be so tough, but you're never gonna get a deal that way," adding he's aligned with Europe and wants a deal. Speaker 1 argues four years of tough talk didn't stop Putin and "the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy." Speaker 2 recalls 2014, when "he occupied it" in Ukraine, says "we signed ceasefire... We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it," and that Putin broke the ceasefire and killed people. The dialogue covers diplomacy versus confrontation, conscription, and Western aid: "We gave you the javelins" and "Obama gave you sheets." They discuss a ceasefire and warn against gambling with "World War three," noting "without us, you don't have the cards."

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President Trump said Ukraine doesn't have good cards because Russia is bigger. However, the world has cards against Russia, and one is about to be played in the U.S. Senate. America has three branches of government, and the House and Senate are poised to act. The speaker asks what would change their mind if Russia agreed to a ceasefire.

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I see the hatred for Putin, making a deal tough. I want peace and am aligned with the world. I can be tough, but deals require more than that. Previous chest-thumping didn't work, diplomacy is needed. Trump's engaging in diplomacy. Russia occupied parts of Ukraine, nobody stopped them. Ceasefires were signed but broken, prisoners weren't exchanged. What kind of diplomacy are we even talking about? I'm trying to end the destruction of your country, but don't come here and start a fight. You're forcing conscripts to the front lines. Be thankful I'm trying to resolve this conflict. You should be appreciating the country that's backing you far more than a lot of people said they should have, and has given you billions of dollars in military equipment. Be thankful. You don't have the cards. If we get a ceasefire, you'd want to take it.

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If I were in charge of NATO, like Joe Biden, I would immediately pursue peace in Ukraine. I believe the best course of action would be to call back Trump. Despite criticism, his foreign policy was commendable. He avoided starting new wars and had positive interactions with North Korea, Russia, and China. The Abraham Accords in the Middle East were a significant achievement. Trump's knowledge of the world should not be underestimated, as his fact-based approach yielded the best foreign policy in recent decades. If he were president during the Russian invasion, it would have been impossible for them to proceed. In my personal conviction, Trump is the man who can save the Western world and humanity as a whole.

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A ceasefire is a trap because it would allow thousands of European troops to enter Ukraine and the United States to further shield Ukraine economically. Russia insists on negotiations first because agreeing to a ceasefire without addressing the root causes of the conflict would be suicide. Russia is looking for a path to genuine peace to prevent future wars. This is Russia's genuine peaceful objective.

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What Trump wants is a ceasefire. That's it. He wants a ceasefire. And if Putin can get convince him that the quickest route to a ceasefire is for Ukraine to leave mother Russia and say no to NATO, that's it. That's all that has to happen for a ceasefire. And what Putin is going to say is it won't matter in a month. In a month, we're going to own it all. If you want your ceasefire now, tell Ukraine to leave. If the Ukraine won't leave, we'll make them leave. There's nothing you can do to stop us. We're not afraid of your sanctions. We're not afraid of any of your threats. This is going to happen. We can either happen have it happen in a way that gets you the ceasefire you want, or it's just gonna happen. And I think Trump understands it.

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Speaker 0: This thing over with. You see the hatred he's got for Putin. It's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate. I'm aligned with the world. I wanna get the things set. If you want me to be tough? I could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen, but you're never gonna get a deal that way. Speaker 1: For four years in The United States Of America... we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin, and then Putin invaded Ukraine. The path to peace... is engaging in diplomacy. Speaker 2: He occupied it, our parts, big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea. So 2014. We signed ceasefire, gas contract, but after that, he broken the ceasefire, he killed our people, and he didn't exchange prisoners. What kind of diplomacy? Speaker 0: You should be thanking the president for trying to bring it into this conference. Speaker 2: We have problems. Speaker 0: You're gambling with World War three. You have the cards. With us, you have the cards. Without us you don't have any cards. I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets. What if Russia breaks his fire?

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President Trump said Ukraine doesn't have good cards because Russia is bigger. However, the world has cards against Russia, and one is about to be played in the U.S. Senate. In America, multiple parties are at the table, including the House and Senate, which are poised to act. The speaker asks what would change their mind if Russia agreed to a ceasefire.

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The interview is delayed and then resumes, with discussion shifting to major international developments. On Iran-related negotiations scheduled for Saturday, July 11, Speaker 4 says the Pakistanis believe talks will resume by then, but multiple parties (Iranians, the U.S., Israel) can still disrupt events before that date. Speaker 4 says the first thing to check is whether the parties meet; if they meet, the MOU remains viable. He lists unresolved issues including failure of the United States to fulfill Article 1, efforts to control Iran’s duties under Article 5, Iran not relenting, and the issue of unfreezing assets. Speaker 1 adds that total relief of all sanctions is also still on the table, and raises the ongoing Lebanon issue. On maritime activity near the Strait of Hormuz, Speaker 1 cites a UKMTO statement claiming the southern route is open again for all traffic, with a corridor expanded for day or night travel if ships keep AIS on, radar on, and lights on. The threat level is described as substantial due to mine danger areas and concern about naval forces hailing ships over VHF. Speaker 4 says he is monitoring ship tracking and describes container ships and other cargo vessels returning, with most traffic going through Iranian channels and only one or two via Omani channels. The conversation then turns to a Netanyahu–Trump meeting during the NATO summit context. Speaker 1 relays an Axios report quoting a senior Trump official: Netanyahu made promises about the Iran war that didn’t come to pass, showing trust is broken, and the report’s leak is framed as significant. Speaker 4 references criticism of Netanyahu coming through reports attributed to Barak Ravid. Both discuss that any public warmth may mask deeper concerns, and they emphasize that what matters is what happens afterward. Speaker 1 worries about U.S. decisions that could greenlight Israel in Lebanon and undermine negotiations with Iran due to Israel’s violations of ceasefire and MOU language that Speaker 1 says is tied to Lebanon. Speaker 1 describes conversations with people from Lebanon (Laith Malouf of Free Palestine TV, and Sharmeen Narwani of The Cradle) and explains his focus on what the Lebanese government is thinking. He argues the Lebanese government’s actions contradict the MOU Iran made with the U.S. regarding Lebanon and references leaked clauses that he says require the Lebanese army to disarm Hezbollah across all Lebanon, which he says could trigger civil war. Speaker 4 replies that the deal represented only a portion of Lebanon’s population, with the rest split among Sunni and Shia Muslims and the Druze. Speaker 1 also relays an Axios item saying Netanyahu urged Trump to reign in Erdogan over increasingly anti-Israel rhetoric, and asked Trump to avoid approving weapon sales that would help Turkey modernize its air force. Discussion includes claims of mutual hostile rhetoric and disagreements between Israel and Turkey, as well as debate over whether economic escalation like oil pressure should occur. A clip of Trump’s comments is discussed, describing threats to attack Iran’s infrastructure and promises about enriched uranium. Speaker 1 then reads Iran’s response, attributed to Muhammad Bagheri, criticizing the threats and urging respect, with a statement that the Iranian people are “strangers to the language of threats” and warning of response “in another language.” Speaker 4 says the language was prohibited in the MOU and frames it as a violation, while Speaker 1 counters that violations may not be expected to be perfect in an MOU context. The transcript then focuses heavily on the scale of Ali Khamenei’s funeral as reported by Al Jazeera and other estimates: Speaker 1 cites projections of 14 to 20 million across Iraq and Iran over the entire period, and gives specific city estimates: Iran 15 million, Qom 2 to 4 million, Iraq 3 to 5 million, and Mashhad 7 to 10 million, with combined attendance projected around 30 to 40 million. Speaker 4 responds that the size indicates Sayyed Ali Mohammed’s unpopularity. Speaker 1 describes a viral post and a quote broadcast on Iranian national television from a person who says they were previously against the government, engaged in protests, and now begs forgiveness, portraying a shift in sentiment after the war. Speaker 4 compares the funeral’s impact to the U.S. unity shift after December 7, 1941, and says it will affect Iranian culture for the next 50 years. Speaker 1 agrees, adding that even critics may mourn and respect due to the defense of the country and the war’s narrative. Israel/Iran-related moral and protest comparisons appear next, including discussion of alleged violence by Israeli police and prisons versus claims about Iranian guards. The conversation then reports a new maritime incident: Speaker 1 says an unknown projectile hit a Qatari-owned LNG tanker, Al-Raqayat, on the port side near the Omani side of the Strait of Hormuz, causing fire with no casualties or environmental impact reported. Authorities advise vessels transit with caution, report suspicious activity to UKMTO, and Speaker 1 frames the incident as showing escalation risk despite ongoing negotiations. On Ukraine, Speaker 1 relays comments attributed to Russian spokesperson Peskov calling it “a war,” and Zelensky’s statements about nuclear weapons as a form of security and vulnerability if lacking them. Speaker 1 connects this to reports that Ukraine may consider obtaining a nuclear capability and mentions a large Russian attack allegedly with drones intercepted but few or no missiles intercepted. Trump’s remarks are also discussed, including a claim that a 90-minute call with Putin and efforts by Trump could bring talks to an end, and that NATO summit discussions may help. Speaker 4 responds by shifting to arguments about escalation and retaliation patterns, then provides a long historical breakdown of Russia’s shifts in tactics and force posture: from early invasion framed as special military operation, to mobilizations, shifting operational focus (e.g., Bakhmut, Avdiivka, Pokrovsk), the Kursk invasion, and later expansion across multiple regions. Speaker 4 claims Kyiv has been struck repeatedly and discusses air defense failures, and he asserts Russia has reserves while Ukraine does not. The transcript then returns to military, economic, and political pressures. Zelensky’s Financial Times quote is read: once attacks reach “1,000 flying towards Moscow” Putin will “feel it personally,” and farther from Moscow means closer to ending the war. Speaker 4 counters with skepticism about Ukraine’s ability to match Russia’s scale of attacks, and discusses glide bombs and claimed casualty impacts. Speaker 1 asks about pressure from energy infrastructure strikes and oil market impacts, while Speaker 4 says Russia exports increase, premiums are obtained, and the broader oil-market impact is limited. Additional regional updates include Lebanon: the Lebanese president denies reports of meeting Netanyahu and says he would immediately leave if in the same room while Israeli attacks and violations continue. Speaker 1 also cites a Lebanese government preliminary report placing direct damage from the war between $3 billion and $4 billion, excluding indirect economic losses of $16 billion, and Speaker 4 responds by calling the deaths “priceless.” Yemen is described as a major development: Speaker 1 says Saudi imposed a blockade preventing Iranian airplanes from going to Yemen for the first time in 11 years, and Iran breached it with an Iranian Mahan air flight to Sana’a transporting injured people and a high-level delegation. The conversation frames this as strategically favorable for Iran, with proxy-war consequences and ongoing clashes linked to Houthi activity and Saudi-backed forces. Speaker 4 adds that Yemen heating up could affect Saudi exits through Bab el-Mandab and change logistics depending on where oil is being sold. On Gaza, Speaker 1 discusses claims that Hamas government bodies resigned or were dissolved and describes other circulating reports (from Emirati outlets) saying these were false and that Hamas instead renovated an emergency committee into an interim committee led by Abdul Hadi al-Aqra (as stated). Speaker 4 accepts this alternative framing as more credible, and Speaker 1 says Hamas aims to expand political control in Gaza and the West Bank. Speaker 1 adds news that an International Security Force presence (described as Trump’s “peace” border force) may bring 20,000 personnel mostly from Indonesia, Morocco, Kazakhstan, and Albania, while Gaza continues to be bombed. The episode ends with discussion of negotiation prospects: Speaker 1 argues Trump needs a political win after the Iran war and is more optimistic about Ukraine negotiations, while Speaker 4 says Europe may push confrontation with Russia and risks of escalation at sea. Both agree that the conflict’s end may happen while Trump is still president, but not on Trump’s terms, and they conclude after exchanging commentary on future tracking tools and other unrelated remarks.

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To solve the ongoing conflict, everyone needs to come together and quickly make a deal. It shouldn't be a difficult agreement to reach, and it can be done fast. If someone is unwilling to make a deal, they won't last long or be taken seriously. I believe Russia wants to make a deal. The people of Ukraine, who have suffered the most, certainly want a deal.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Iran, China, Canada? Trump’s Grand Strategy Explained | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Guests: Elbridge Colby
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Elbridge Colby outlines an administration approach he calls flexible realism: allies are urged to shoulder more defense responsibility while the United States modernizes its forces, expands the defense industrial base, and supports re-industrialization at home. He argues that demanding higher allied spending is meant to stabilize strategy rather than to pressure partners, and that regional cooperation can preserve deterrence. On China, he describes a denial posture centered on the first island chain, combining firm military capabilities with diplomatic clarity. In the Middle East, he says U.S. actions aim to prevent an Iranian nuclear weapon and degrade power projection, using sanctions, interdiction, and escalating options to apply cumulative pressure. For Russia and Ukraine, he points to European defense buildup and suggests conditions for a peace deal.

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Trump BEGS Putin To Stop Bombing Ukraine
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President Trump’s team indicates a critical period for peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. The Vice President stated a proposal has been made, urging both sides to agree or the U.S. may withdraw. Talks are stalled, with Trump blaming Zelensky for not accepting terms that would recognize Crimea as Russian. Despite peace discussions, Russia has intensified airstrikes on Kyiv, highlighting a lack of serious commitment from both sides. The U.S. administration is preoccupied with multiple global issues, leading to insufficient focus on Ukraine. The situation risks prolonged conflict, with both sides unwilling to make necessary concessions for peace.
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