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Speaker notes that there is fear people want Trump to have done something gross with women, but 'I really don't believe wanna be clear. I do not believe that. Yeah. Not covering for Trump. I just don't think that's true.' They insist there is no indication, saying they've spoken to people 'close to Epstein, very close to Epstein, who've told me off camera, in private, no, it's not. Trump never did that shit.' The speaker adds, 'So I don't think it's about that.' They question why 'no one talking to Les Wexner?' and end with 'And' (truncated). The focus remains unclear.

The speaker discusses the Epstein saga, emphasizing its importance and the reasons it remains relevant. They highlight the Trump administration's past interest in the Epstein files, contrasting it with Trump's recent call to stop discussing it. The speaker details Epstein's background, questioning his rapid rise in finance despite a lack of formal training, and his close ties to Les Wexner. They point out the suspicious nature of Epstein's lenient plea deal in Florida, suggesting it implies involvement with intelligence agencies or powerful figures. The speaker argues that Epstein's connections to intelligence agencies, foreign governments, and wealthy individuals are evident, possibly involving money laundering and sexual exploitation of minors. They suggest the "Epstein list" represents deep state corruption and the exposure of illicit activities by the elite. The speaker questions Trump's shift in stance and the media's conflicting narratives, speculating about potential deals or pressure to suppress the story. They conclude that the Epstein saga is crucial and will significantly impact Trump's legacy.

Speaker 0 says that more than a decade ago, President Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago and was one of the few prominent people reportedly willing to help law enforcement go after Epstein, who is described as a disgusting child abuser and sex trafficker. They say this is common knowledge.

Speaker addresses rumors that 'Trump did something gross with women' and says, 'I I really don't believe wanna be clear. I do not believe that. Yeah. Not covering for Trump. I just don't think that's true.' They assert they've seen no indication of it and have spoken to people, 'to be totally honest with you, close to Epstein, very close to Epstein, who've told me off camera, in private, no, it's not. Trump never did that shit.' The remarks emphasize that the issue isn't about that alleged conduct. The speaker then questions, 'But why is no one talking to Les Wexner?'

The speaker claims that the reason for trying to impeach the democratically elected president is due to petogate and sex trafficking. They believe that the world is controlled by elite pedophiles who are involved in Hollywood, big banks, and congress. President Trump is praised for being the first president to go after pedophiles. The speaker states that human trafficking is the most profitable black market business, and the powerful individuals involved fear that Trump will expose them. They also mention that both the left and right have pedophiles within their ranks. The speaker concludes by saying that Trump has made it clear that he will not tolerate child abuse and that the mainstream media is also involved in sex trafficking.

Speaker 1 says that the real information about the Epstein files has not come out and that “there were only four Republicans, four of us that’s really fought to get them released,” who “signed the discharge petition, went against the White House,” and were “threatened,” with Donald Trump calling him a traitor and saying his friends would be hurt. He questions why anyone would vote for Republicans if the administration doesn’t release all the information, framing it as a line in the sand for many people. Speaker 0 asks why they think the Epstein files are being hidden. Speaker 1 responds that it’s because the hidden information would protect “some of the most rich, powerful people,” arguing that Epstein was “definitely some sort of part of the intelligence state” who was “working with Israel” and with the “former prime minister of Israel.” He asserts that these are “the dirty parts of government and the powers that be that they don’t want the American people to know about.” He concludes that, sadly, he doesn’t think the files will come out. Speaker 0 presses on whether Trump is in the Epstein files. Speaker 1 speculates that if someone is “living under blackmail” or “living under threat” and told not to release information, that fear could influence actions. He suggests that someone might be warned by threats to prevent disclosure, giving a hypothetical example: after standing on a rally stage, you could be shot in the ear and warned that “next time we won’t miss,” or that the bullet might be for someone you care about. He says he is “speculating,” but notes he has “a strong enough reason to speculate like that.”

The speaker believes Kamala Harris is a "marionette" controlled by over 100 "puppet masters." The speaker claims to know most of them and suggests a strong overlap between these individuals and the Epstein client list. The speaker is surprised that no one on the Epstein client list has been prosecuted, while many January 6th protesters have been imprisoned. The speaker believes a reason for Kamala Harris's support is that if Trump wins, the Epstein client list will become public, which terrifies some billionaires backing Harris. The speaker specifically names Reid Hoffman and Bill Gates as potentially nervous individuals, noting Hoffman was the speaker's VP of business development at PayPal 24 years ago.

The speaker asserts that the effort to release the Epstein files came directly from President Trump. They acknowledge that many people may have a hard time with this claim, but state that it is the truth. The speaker also says that Trump fought the hardest to stop these files from being released.

Speaker 0 discusses Jerry Epstein and the Lolita Express, claiming Bill Clinton flew on Epstein’s planes “like, on 20 flights,” and alleging Clinton flew to a Middle Eastern country with a “chic that's admitted pedophile with multimillion dollar checks and Bill Clinton on the plane.” They state Clinton is a “known sexual predator” and reference lawsuits against Donald Trump with Jane Does alleging involvement with Epstein, saying there was no proof in the law because they log flights on private jets, and asserting Trump “had been a defuse” (likely misstatement) of these claims. Speaker 1 shifts to John Podesta, describing him as a “progressive guru” and alleging he is connected to an “underage sex slave op,” and mentions “cover upper defending unspeakable dregs.” They question what MMFA is, and Jamie asks what it means. The term MMFA is identified in the dialogue as Media Matters. The speakers then discuss Soros and connect him to ownership of a pizza place where “this all went on.” They claim Media Matters’ head guy, David Brock, has a boyfriend and that the organization hosts major Democratic Party fundraisers. They mention “rock bands there” performing “live Spoken word dissertations of the love of children,” including references to men in goth drag speaking about their love for children. The speakers acknowledge not wanting to repeat some content and suggest they could pull up more footage of these claims. Speaker 1 asks rhetorically why this is such a bizarre subject and comments on the overall strangeness of the topic. Overall, the transcript presents an interwoven set of unverified allegations involving prominent figures (Epstein’s associates, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, John Podesta, Soros, and Media Matters), claims of underage sex operations, and allegations about events at a pizza place tied to Media Matters, including reportedly graphic performances by performers discussing love of children. The speakers imply a broader conspiracy or cover-up framework linking political figures, advocacy outlets, and entertainment venues to illicit activities.

The speaker alleges that government officials are aiding in pedophilia, child trafficking, and the grooming of children. They reference Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with the Clintons as an example.

The speaker states he doesn't understand why his supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein has been dead for a long time and was never a big factor in his life. He claims he doesn't understand the interest or fascination, especially since credible information has been given. He compares the situation to the "Mueller witch hunt" and the "steel dossier," which he claims was all fake. He finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. He suggests that only "pretty bad people, including fake news" want to keep the story alive, but says that if there is credible information, "let them have it."

Speaker 0 argues that Trump "picked out individual businesses or sometimes individual business leaders who he wanted to use the government to punish" and "went after Amazon and Jeff Bezos" and "went after saying he wanted to go after Mark Zuckerberg," engaging in actions "targeting businesses because of what were perceived to be his political interests." He warns this would make him "radioactive in the business world" because "business people are too smart to think that they can always be on the right side of those calculations." Speaker 1 notes that "you don't hear a whole lot of CEOs ... coming out in support of him" and that "nobody that I know other than Leon Elon" has supported him. He adds that some business leaders support Trump "with the caveat" for a "very transactional" reason: "For the right amount, you can guide policy. I think you saw that with crypto."

The speaker discusses the topic of government officials allegedly being involved in pedophilia, child trafficking, and grooming of children. They mention Jeffrey Epstein's connection with the Clintons as an example. Another person dismisses these claims as ridiculous.

The speaker suggests focusing on Bill Clinton, the former president of Harvard, and hedge fund managers, providing a list of individuals who allegedly lived with Jeffrey Epstein. The speaker asserts they did not live with Epstein.

Speaker: The speaker argues that we need to step back and examine the bigger picture of what was really going on with Epstein. According to the speaker, Epstein was “more than just a serial pedophile and a pervert. He was an incredibly powerful man,” who, in “multiple instances in the files that were just released,” was “talking about his work for Mossad, talking about his work for the Rothschilds.” The speaker emphasizes that this points to a broader pattern or operation, stating a need to “discuss the blackmail operation that was taking place” and asking, “which government that's a special ally of The United States put him up to it?” The speaker then questions the nature of U.S. alliances, asking, “do we really want to be allies with the country that kidnaps young girls, for rape just so they can have dirt on American politicians and control our foreign policy.” This line of inquiry is presented as the bigger underlying issue that, in the speaker’s view, has not been sufficiently discussed. The focus remains on connecting Epstein’s alleged activities to a broader blackmail or influence operation involving a foreign ally, and on the implications of such an alliance for U.S. political decision-making and foreign policy.

There's a massive difference between Donald Trump who banned Epstein from Mar A Lago when he found out about his disgusting hobbies and somebody like Bill Clinton who rode shotgun to Epstein's island doing who knows what with who knows who after getting out of office. One rejected the predator and the other partied with him. And that's what Gen is frustrated with. We want accountability. We want transparency. That's not what we had under the Biden administration. And that there is exactly why we voted for Trump. He's performed CPR on the American dream. This time last year on Abiodunatics, thankfully, we have a president who's going to start addressing that, and we need to see that soon before the midterm.

Speaker 0 explains that Epstein’s legal problems began with police investigations into allegations that underage women were coming to Epstein’s house. Epstein allegedly believed that Trump was the first to inform the police about what was happening at Epstein’s house, and from that point they became bitter enemies. Speaker 1 asks if this is what Epstein is telling him. Speaker 0 confirms that this is the version he is relaying, as presented by “Oh, the hoax yesterday.” Speaker 2 clarifies that “the hoax” refers to Democrats using a narrative to attack him. He says Epstein has never said or suggested or implied that the hoax is real; he has talked to Epstein many times. He states that the whole thing comes across as a hoax, not that Epstein’s actions are a hoax. He explains that Epstein believes himself innocent, and that when he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Maribago. He adds that Epstein was an FBI informant trying to take this matter down. The president knows and has great sympathy for the women who have suffered harms; it’s detestable to him. He and the speaker have spoken as recently as twenty-four hours ago. What he is talking about, according to Speaker 2, are the Democrats who are pursuing this with impure motives. If they truly cared, he asks, why didn’t they act during the four years of the Biden administration when the Biden DOJ had all the records? They didn’t say a word about it, and now they pursue it for political purposes. Speaker 3 notes that our current president has had relationships with Epstein in the past, and mentions Katie Johnson and possibly other victims who have accused Trump of involvement in similar matters. In the speaker’s experience, Trump supporters will not listen to such claims. He admits the court of law isn’t present here. He asks if there is anything that can be said about the validity of those claims or whether more is known. Speaker 1 responds that he can say nothing at all. He states that the only thing he can say about President Trump is that in 2009, when he served subpoenas and gave notice to connected people that he wanted to talk to them, Trump was the only person who picked up the phone and said, “let’s just talk.” Trump offered as much time as needed, provided information that checked out, and helped him so they didn’t have to depose him. He adds that this occurred in 2009. Speaker 3 asks if there is any truth to James Patterson’s claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Speaker 1 confirms that he definitely heard that.

The speaker asserts that everyone in politics has a vice worse than alcoholism. They emphasize the importance of releasing the Epstein list.

They if what people are saying they're afraid of is that Trump did something gross with women I I really don't believe wanna be clear. I do not believe that. Yeah. Not covering for Trump. I just don't think that's true. I've seen any indication of it, and I've talked to people, to be totally honest with you, close to Epstein, very close to Epstein, who've told me off camera, in private, no, it's not. Trump never did that shit. So I don't think it's about that. But why is no one talking to Les Wexner? And

The speaker references Brock Pierce, described as an Epstein client and alleged child abuser and as a cofounder of Tethr, and asks, “Who is friends with Epstein client and alleged child abuser, Tethr cofounder Brock Pierce.” They then say, “I don't know shit about Brock's history, and I've never met him. I don't know if he's an Epstein client. I don't know anything about these allegations, and I don't really care at this point because it doesn't affect my life at all.”

The transcript captures a short, informal discussion about Donald Trump’s handling of the Epstein files and the broader question of whether presidents protect rich and powerful people at the expense of victims in sex-crime cases. The dialogue unfolds between Speaker 0 and Speaker 1, with a recent history/politics flavor and an on-the-record moment later in the exchange. Speaker 0 begins by asking Speaker 1 how Trump fought to avoid releasing the Epstein files, noting that Trump initially indicated a release but then reversed course. Speaker 1 responds noncommittally, suggesting that Trump “probably” had friends who were involved and that Trump “saved them” from trouble. The question is framed as whether this constitutes presidential conduct—protecting powerful people rather than victims. Speaker 0 presses further, asking if protecting rich and powerful people over sex-crime victims is appropriate for a president, and whether such behavior is common in presidential history. Speaker 1 counters by pointing to historical examples, stating that many presidents have favored their friends and families, adding that while JFK’s affairs were noted, he claims Kennedy “got caught,” implying possible crimes. Speaker 0 acknowledges Kennedy’s infidelity but questions whether there were crimes, while Speaker 1 reiterates the point that Kennedy “got caught,” and asserts that such behavior is not becoming of a United States president. The conversation shifts toward evaluating current leadership: Speaker 0 asks whether Speaker 1 agrees with Trump’s protection of powerful individuals at the expense of crime victims. Speaker 1 answers, “All depends on who the powerful people are,” suggesting a conditional view rather than a blanket condemnation or approval. The discussion then veers to the expectation that a president should serve all Americans, not just the wealthy, and Speaker 0 reiterates the moral question. Speaker 1, initially evasive about personal details, asserts that they are a state representative and holds a badge, claiming to work for their country. The exchange ends with a sense of irony in the narrator’s commentary: the “moral of the story” being that it’s acceptable for Donald Trump to protect rich and powerful men because he himself is rich and powerful, effectively equating protection of the powerful with personal parity. Overall, the transcript presents a back-and-forth debate about why presidents might shield powerful individuals, how historical precedents factor into current judgments, and whether leadership should be equally accountable to all segments of society, ending with a skeptical, wrap-up sentiment about the perceived fairness of such protections.

The speaker questions why Donald Trump would be considering pardoning a known sex trafficker, Ghislaine Maxwell, and notes that there has been no satisfactory explanation from MAGA supporters. They point out that Maxwell abused kids and that Trump has already given her a “really nice prison… like a club fed,” and is now considering pardoning her. The speaker asks, “He said it. Yeah, I'd consider why? Okay, hey, would you consider pardoning Khalid Sheikh Mohammed? I bet he would say no to that, as he should. Would you consider partnering Ghislain Maxwell, a known sex trafficker who abused kids? I have to think about it. Why? Why Mago? Why? Why would he have to think about it?” They urge that, before mentioning Biden, one must explain why Donald Trump would consider it, insisting that Biden is not president and is not the answer. The speaker asserts that Biden wasn’t the one who made a big deal about releasing the Epstein files. In contrast, they claim Trump attacked Biden for not releasing the Epstein files, whereas Biden assumed DOJ was doing their job and Trump didn’t. The speaker maintains that Trump can release the Epstein files right now. They further state that if someone brings up Biden in response, the only acceptable way to do so without appearing to defend a sex trafficker would be to first answer the question: why would Donald Trump even consider it? The speaker ends by saying they look forward to reading the response.

One speaker questions why a "foremost pederist" is protected, calling it evil and saying everyone agrees on it. Another speaker says Bill Barr needs to give sworn testimony about what happened with Epstein at the Bureau of Prisons, because the story being told isn't the real one. The speaker believes a foreign government took Epstein out, not a domestic enterprise. They think it was a government-sponsored foreign operation in concert with people in the US government, not just a bribed guard, but at a state-to-state level. The speaker says weapon systems and global deals were at play, but admits they are just positing it as a theory. The conversation then shifts to UFOs.

The speaker discusses the high-profile individuals who were associated with Jeffrey Epstein, including Prince Andrew, Naomi Campbell, Kevin Spacey, Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton. They question how many of these people who visited Epstein's private jet, island, and ranch were involved in the exploitation of children. They also mention that Epstein was well-known but evaded legal consequences due to fear. The speaker criticizes Sydney McCain for not taking action against Epstein despite her knowledge of him. They conclude by stating that Epstein's death was likely not a suicide, similar to Jeffrey Epstein's case.

The speaker connects Jeffrey Epstein to a broad web of influence and alleged illicit activity across several decades. Key points presented: - Epstein’s involvement is linked to the BCCI network, and to foreign policy activities in the Middle East during the 1990s, plus his alleged ties to high-level officials across Israeli, Saudi, British, and French governments, spanning the Clinton era into the early 2000s. - Epstein was investigated by the SEC in the 1980s and was one of the two people who ran the largest Ponzi scheme in U.S. history at that time, tied to the Towers Financial collapse. Epstein’s business partner went to jail for twenty-something years, while Epstein allegedly “skates completely free.” - He is said to have been involved in a billion-dollar fraud case in the U.S. Virgin Islands, with allegations that his campaigns funded local politicians there and that prosecutors answered to those politicians. - The speaker suggests Epstein’s pervasive presence—“always in the room” in four decades of American foreign policy and intelligence activity—implies a systemic concern about money sourcing for that activity. - Regarding Epstein’s crimes, the concern cited is the same one discussed with Orlando Massfer: don’t bring the case, and if you do, bring it in a highly limited way. - This culminated in the 2006 indictment, which was described as a “sweetheart plea deal” that limited prosecutions, protected coconspirators known and unknown, and allowed the case to proceed quickly before a full trial could uncover broader lines of evidence about Epstein’s network.