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Speaker 1: “The material, put it like that. The material used in my body is.” They discuss violence, asking, “she just got stabbed?” and reply, “that’s not me.” They say, “since they did that, now they gotta investigate the material my body is supposed to,” adding, “Since they won’t do all that, now they gotta investigate.” The talk shifts to geopolitics: “She’s from the Ukraine. She’s from Russia. And, you know, they got a war they had a war going on against The United States.” They express confusion, “out of all people her.” They conclude, “That’s hey. It ain’t I don’t have nothing. I they just lashed out on her. They lashed out on her.” The closing line asks, “Who else working the are work who was working the material who was whoever was working the material, they lashed out on her.”

The speaker was asked what office they were elected to and if they needed support. The speaker responded that they are not the one to ask and that the person should speak with a man. The speaker then stated that they speak to over a million people.

The speaker asks if the other person has received any emails from colleagues, but the other person wants to know the question. The speaker then mentions that the State Department's internal email system has added pronouns to the "from" line without people's choice. They question why this decision was made and who made it. The other person says they haven't seen this phenomenon and offers to look into it. The speaker insists that it should be a choice and not imposed by the State Department, especially if the pronouns are incorrect. The other person agrees to investigate and thanks everyone.

Questioning whether the speaker was kicked out of CPAC, the exchange goes: "And you were kicked out of CPAC. Right?" The reply: "I wasn't kicked out. Or you were disinvited? What what let's there was some kind of drama on Twitter." The other party says: "Don't think so. Tell me everything. There's no drama." The speaker then clarifies: "I, you know, like I said, I came out here I came out here to CPAC last year, had a great time. You know, met my hero, Ben Shapiro. I met my mentor and friend, Casa Dillon. And and so I just came out again this year."

Speaker 0: Michael and I are not easily scared, except when Michelle is angry. Speaker 1: They fooled the country and the world. Speaker 0: They had us all fooled. Speaker 1: Will we see the first gay or woman president? Let's not jump to conclusions. Speaker 0: Michelle is a transgender. We all know.

Speaker 0 expresses a desire to be respected for their unconventional choices, including killing from above and without reason. They accuse those who don't accept them of being intolerant and ask them to examine their privilege. Speaker 1 shares their personal experience of being born as a tank but feeling excluded from the numerous gender options available today. They question the purpose behind constantly inventing new genders.

Trans students on this campus feel victimized by your presence. You mentioned this man's transition, but earlier you dismissed their concerns. Life's tough, get a helmet. I can't handle this, next question.

Speaker 0 argues about genetics, Speaker 1 shifts to brain scans. Speaker 0 threatens violence. Speaker 2 mentions a criminal case involving a transgender person. Speaker 3 corrects someone on their gender, leading to a heated exchange.

The speaker demands an apology. They ask if the term "tranny" is derogatory.

I want to understand your views on transgenderism. Well, historically, the body is tied to who you are. Transgender ideology is a form of Gnosticism that says your body doesn't matter. This is false, leading to the deprivation of women's rights, rapes, and the loss of sports competitions and scholarships. It also causes anxiety, depression, and suicide. Those rape cases are from cis men. As a Black trans woman, I'm not a threat. It's harmful to weaponize rhetoric against trans people. We exist, even if you deny it. If my child came out as trans, I'd tell them the truth: they're not really the gender they identify as. You'll reduce this to genitalia. Those bathroom rapes aren't committed by trans women, but cis men. There's no such thing as a trans woman. I'm looking at one right now. You don't have any talking points. In 2018 there were two rapes in bathrooms and one in Wisconsin, one in Georgia, but by cis men. The translady doth protest too much, me thinks.

The speaker demands an apology. They ask if the term "tranny" is derogatory.

Speaker 0 stated they were more concerned with Donald Trump's congresswoman. Speaker 1 asked if Speaker 0 had served in a combat zone and if they were still friends with school shooters, which Speaker 0 denied. Speaker 1 referenced a debate stage where Speaker 0 allegedly claimed friendship with school shooters. Regarding bullying, Speaker 0 said it's okay to bully the bully at times, which Speaker 1 interpreted as condoning bullying. Speaker 1 accused the Democrat party of violence and asked if Speaker 0 was at Tiananmen Square, to which Speaker 0 responded they were there in January 1990. Speaker 1 then asked, "What is a woman?" Speaker 0 said they didn't understand the question. Speaker 1 wanted Speaker 0 to say a woman is an adult human female and that men can't become women, accusing the party of erasing women.

Speaker 1 attempts to interview Speaker 2, who claims Speaker 1 says lies. Speaker 2 says they founded the Asylum Seeker Network of Support to fight US policy, which evolved into creating programs. Speaker 2 says Speaker 1 is there to take from them, while they stand as a community. Speaker 1 asks why pictures of children are being taken, citing trans flags and condoms on a table as inappropriate for children. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 2 of touching and stepping on them. Speaker 2 says Speaker 1 is not welcome. Speaker 1 claims they are being assaulted and asks why they were hit. Speaker 2 denies violence and asks for personal space. Speaker 1 accuses them of gaslighting and asks why coffee was thrown at them while covering the event.

Speaker 0 checks if the gender list has been updated, expressing frustration that there are 63 genders listed but not their own. Speaker 1 apologizes for assuming their gender. Speaker 0 insults Speaker 1 and claims to identify as an attack helicopter. They explain their desire to have surgical modifications to resemble a helicopter and request to be called a pilot. They demand respect for their right to harm others.

Great teacher. Yes. What is a woman? Woman is a social construct that we've agreed upon. So I wanna thank you for proving a great point. What? You are why we should eliminate the Department of Education. Thank you very much. I could tell you're not married. Mhmm. Yeah. You're so scared to debate me. Actually, I'm not scared. You keep interrupting me. Every time I actually try to actually explain my point and have a reasonable conversation with you, you cut me off. Statistics? Where can you show me that at? Seventy percent of offenders were African Americans. I know you're you're obviously very anti trans. No. I'm pro reality.

The speaker attempts to define fascism. The other person admits they don't know what it is, identifying themselves as a photographer. The speaker prefaces their explanation with "So is kind of like when United." They then ask if they are being recorded.

Trans women are women, but the speaker disagrees. They argue that nobody confronts the speaker's opinion and questions why anyone would want to be close to a trans woman. The speaker insults the trans woman, saying she doesn't look or act like a woman. The trans woman defends herself, stating that many people accept and support her. The conversation becomes heated, and the speaker asks the trans woman to leave their store. The trans woman mentions that some people find the situation hurtful, but the speaker dismisses their feelings, claiming not to care at their age. They mention their service in Vietnam as a reason for their indifference.

The speaker is asked about a previous statement regarding having a gay son. The speaker deflects the question and insults the interviewer. The interviewer then brings up the speaker's comments about the trans community and asks if they will continue to address it. The speaker goes on a rant, calling the trans community an infection and expressing opposition to teaching about gender diversity. The speaker concludes by labeling the interviewer as the enemy.

Interviewer: This decision to follow your conscience, give us a little backstory. How did that happen? Guest: Without getting too much into detail, I did a long-form podcast with Tucker, laying out the entire politics of the issue. After serving twenty years, mostly deployed to the Middle East, fighting the wars over there, and seeing how our country had been lied to and brought down the wrong path in those wars, and that we were getting sucked into another one and that the American people didn't have the full story and our country did not have a vital national interest in this current fight. I said, hey, in good conscience, I can't do this because that was a promise I made to myself probably twenty plus years ago when I was deployed to Iraq. Once I realized after my first couple deployments that we weren't there for the reasons that our government told us we were there for, I said if it's ever my turn, if I'm ever an adult in this situation, I ever have a position of responsibility, I will not, in good conscience, send young men and women off to die on foreign battlefields. Interviewer: So we're Catholics here, baptized Catholic. We saw just on Sunday... Does it help you to have other members of your faith community or religious leaders speaking up on your behalf? Guest: It's been huge. I didn't think when I submitted my resignation it would get the traction or attention that you talked about. Having support from friends, family, but really, I’ve been asked a couple times, was it a hard decision to make? It wasn't made lightly. I put a lot of thought into it, and I had been thinking about it for quite some time. But having faith, I think I heard God's voice, that I was exactly where I was supposed to be and it was my time to take action, which made taking the action incredibly easy and liberating, making me feel like I was in the right spot. Interviewer: Do you have hope for America? And if you do, why so? Guest: I have a great deal of hope for America. This is a very exciting moment. The fact that we're seeing people who speak out on behalf of their faith or who are willing to speak truth to power, and that the people who support them can have a voice because of technology, which can be used for a lot of bad, but in connecting like-minded people and getting our word out, that technology is a very powerful weapon. The young people—the young men and women—there are plenty in this room; I was overwhelmed by the young folks who came up to shake my hand. I have hope for the next generation. As we head into this midterm season and as the war progresses in the next few weeks, the most important thing is to be on our knees and pray, but once we're up from our knees, we need to take action. Our leaders will hear us if we all speak out. We're at a critical juncture in the war in Iran; we must let our leaders hear that we do not support this war, that there is no vital national security interest, that we want to bring our troops home and work toward peace in that region, and that we do not want twenty plus more years of bloodletting. Heading into this next election cycle, demand from everyone, from every political party, go to your representatives, and say I will not vote for you if you are going to vote for the continuation of these wars overseas. If our country is attacked, we will attack; if there's an imminent attack, we will attack; if there's an actual threat, we will attack and fight that. However, we cannot continue to go down this path. We have to make that clear to our leaders. That's what gives me hope.

The speaker was asked about a statement where they said they carried weapons in war despite never deploying to a war zone. The speaker responded that they are proud of their 24 years of service and their record speaks for itself. They speak candidly and passionately, especially about children being shot in schools. When asked if they misspoke about being in war, the speaker said the conversation was about carrying weapons of war after a school shooting, and their grammar isn't always correct. The speaker stated they will never demean another member's service.

Speaker 0 describes that their father still messes up pronouns, and they occasionally misgender themselves, then asks what to do if you happen to get someone's pronouns. Speaker 1 responds with a hostile assertion: "Funny you would ask because, you know, I rail on this a lot. Just because you have a mental illness and you think your penis is a vagina, you like to wear lipstick and eyeliner and a dress. Well, that's a mental illness. You're a man and there is not a damn thing you can do to convince me to call you a girl. You are a classic example of a mentally ill perverted man." End of comment. End of statement.

Speaker 0 asks about the price, to which Speaker 1 responds with $69. Speaker 1 then asks about the pronouns Speaker 0 goes by. Speaker 0 questions why it matters and Speaker 1 explains they need to attend a gender queer protest. Speaker 0 asks for the protest time, but Speaker 1 gives a vague response. Speaker 0 then asks how many genders there are, and Speaker 1 estimates around 930. Speaker 0 insults Speaker 1, who doesn't care and mentions having Speaker 0's clothes. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 has always lived there, and Speaker 1 explains it's their trans wife's place. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 married a man, and Speaker 1 confirms it. Speaker 0 repeats the question, and Speaker 1 says it's up to interpretation.

Speaker 0 argues that conspiracy theories have been made to look like lunacy, noting that the Kennedy assassination popularized the term “conspiracy theorist.” He says it wasn’t widely used before Kennedy, but afterward it became a label for “kooks,” and he’s repeatedly been called that. Speaker 1 acknowledges this dynamic. He and Speaker 0 discuss what a conspiracy is—“more people working together to do something nefarious?”—and Speaker 0 asserts that conspiracies have always happened. He disputes the view that most conspiracies are due to ineptitude, insisting that when there is profit, power, control, and resources involved, most conspiracies, in fact, turn out to be true. He adds that the deeper you dig, the more you realize there’s a concerted effort to make conspiracies seem ridiculous so people won’t be seen as fools. Speaker 1 remarks on the ridicule as well, and Speaker 0 reiterates his own self-description: “I am a conspiracy theorist,” a “foolish person,” and “a professional clown.” He mocks the idea that being labeled foolish is a barrier, and reflects on how others perceive him. Speaker 0 then provides specific, provocative examples of conspiracies he believes are real: Gulf of Tonkin was faked to justify U.S. entry into Vietnam; production of heroin ramped up to 94% of the world’s supply once the U.S. occupied Afghanistan; and the CIA, in the United States, allegedly sold heroin or cocaine in Los Angeles ghettos to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. He states clearly that these claims are real and asserts that there are conspiracy theorists who are “fucking real.” Speaker 1 pushes back on reputation and judgment, and Speaker 0 reaffirms his self-identification as a conspiracy theorist who faces mockery. Speaker 1 suggests that this stance might give him a “superpower.”

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of spreading propaganda and not providing education. Speaker 1 questions if Speaker 0 will target the transgender community next. Speaker 0 interrupts Speaker 2, apologizes, and insults Speaker 1's understanding of the topic. Speaker 1 points out Speaker 0's lack of knowledge.

I'm just heading to the bathroom. What are you doing in the girl's bathroom? I'm a trans girl. But, you're not a girl. Oh, we're doing all of this now. Interesting. I've never heard of this before, and I don't know what to say. I'm sorry you feel that way. I pay a lot of money to feel safe in the bathroom. Me too. Excuse me. Weird. Do you think that's okay?