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"DOJ wants to keep secret the names of two Epstein associates who wired a $102,150 k in 2018 right after the whole story blew up." "Follow the money because that can expose a lot of the characters." "Epstein has a trust, and it's controlled in offshore bank accounts." "Look into Ghislain Maxwell's trust, what's happening there." "Hats off to Israel. They're doing the right things in their best interest." "The concern is when it comes to The US and we're talking about APAC, Americans vote for you to represent them in America's interests." "There is a two-tier justice system." "We are 37,000,000,000,000 in debt. America is broke. We can't afford it anymore." "Transparency from the United States government." "I don't take donations from big pharma. I don't take donations from the Military Industrial Complex. I don't take donations from APAC." "we just can't fucking afford it anymore." "defund the foreign aid and foreign funding out of our own military funding bill." "I'll have amendments to defund Ukraine $600,000,000 and Israel $500,000,000 and another 105,000,000 for drones and tunnels." "APAC registering under FARA is one example." "America first." "Ukraine is not a NATO member nation." "Defunding Israel is on the table."

References Charlie Kirk and the PBD podcast about Israel, and the leader of Israel calling such events conspiracies. He says he did digging on the Jewish library, which allegedly discusses Israel killing terrorists, noting an asterisk: 'Israel has occasionally made a mistake' and 'war on terror.' He claims the government is controlled by Israel, citing Nixon, and mentions 'Voting against the Epstein Transparency Act, connecting back to Israel.' He links Zionism to 'Protocols of Zion' and quotes: 'For this reason, we must destroy all the other religions' and 'Peaceful chosen people.' Returning to World War II, he asserts 'Judea declares war on Germany' and claims '90,000,000 Christians were taken out,' questions the '6,000,000' figure, with 'Red Cross stats, 271,000.' He cites David Cole, who 'went to Auschwitz' and 'exposed all of this' and asks viewers to 'look up his documentary' and 'always look at everything from every angle.' 'Love you.'

Episode 1 of the Hodge Twins podcast dives into a sprawling conspiracy-centered critique of U.S. politics and media, anchored by Israel, the Epstein case, and alleged influence from Jewish donors and the APAC lobby. The speakers argue Washington is “occupied” by a network tied to Israel, Netanyahu, and private equity, citing the Heritage Foundation’s Project Esther as a blueprint to label Israel critics as terrorists or enemies of the state. They express distrust of the Trump administration, claiming deep ties to Israel and Epstein, while lamenting an “America First” decline and calling for ending foreign wars and bringing troops home. The discussion also covers media censorship, platform bans, and figures like Nick Fuentes, Charlie Kirk, and Alex Jones, alongside the speakers’ own crypto venture, J Proof, its controversies, and billboard ambitions.

The speaker asserts that Jewish donors "have a lot of explaining to do, a lot of decoupling to do," arguing they have been "the number one funding mechanism of radical open border neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits." He contends "This is a beast created by secular Jews, and now it's coming for Jews, and they're like, what on earth happened?" Extending beyond colleges, he says "it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits. It's the movies. It's Hollywood. It's all of it." He urges action: "time for you guys to wake up and say no more. Draw a line in the sand." He concludes, "I don't care if you hate me."

- "I believe that the American government is sort of trapped by the Israelis. Jeffrey Epstein is one of their tools to trap them." - "Bill Clinton, president Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak met Arafat in the nineties, and there was no deal. The reason was Epstein. They were being blackmailed by Epstein." - "They were about to reach an agreement there for a two state solution, but that was stopped because of Epstein." - "And I believe the Israelis have the American government captive due to what happened what happens with Epstein or what happened in the past with Epstein." - "But everything is stuck over Gazelle." - "I don't think Trump wants to continue this war or the genocide. I think it's the Israelis holding him back." - "John f Kennedy was assassinated with Israeli intelligence help."

“Epstein's probably not like a Mossad agent or something, but Epstein clearly had contact with Israeli intelligence and American intelligence and French intelligence, but the only one you're not allowed to talk about is Israeli intelligence.” He says he told Charlie Kirk to “Go all the way… Do it,” and that conversation may have hit a mic and exists on a server. He describes the “ghoulish and really repulsive reaction” of Benjamin Netanyahu to Charlie's death, saying he tried to redirect grief toward his project and that “Benjamin Netanyahu is not the same as the nation of Israel at all.” He claims “BB's defenders on the internet will call me a liar or a kook, but that's a fact.” He states Charlie “did not hate Jews. He loved Jews. He had tons of friends who were Jews. He loved the state of Israel. He loved going there. He did not like Bibi Netanyahu.” He notes Charlie “had $100,000,000 worth of donors,” and that “Two days before he died, he lost a $2,000,000 donation” after pledging to bring him to Turning Point. The American Jewish Committee called Charlie “an anti Semite” and “dangerous,” which he denies. He references pressure from Seth Dillon to pull him off stage and warns that “There are many liars out there… Bibi Netanyahu, number one among them, shamefully, who are trying to distort the truth, a truth that I know and can prove.”

The speaker claims the release of the Epstein files is a psyop orchestrated by Israel because Trump is not sufficiently pro-Israel. According to the speaker, the Times of Israel suggests the files resurfaced and are overwhelming Trump because he criticized Netanyahu. The speaker says that while Trump bombed Iranian nuclear sites, he didn't bomb them for a full week as he should have. The speaker alleges that despite Trump's actions for Israel, it's not enough, and the Epstein list will be a problem for him because he messed with Israel. The speaker states that the Times of Israel implies Trump is being threatened by old files because he occasionally criticizes Netanyahu and his administration isn't fully compliant with discrimination against Christians in Israel.

Speaker 0: "We're just gonna try to we're we're gonna just stamp out everything type type of practice, but it goes to the point where if, for example, if I I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do. And that's really, really weird, isn't it, Megan?" Speaker 1: "That's not right. Wrong headed." He says he faced blowback after saying, "Mossad, possibilities with Epstein," a comment he stands by, and that he "reported what Alan Dershowitz has said as his lawyer." He writes, "He says, I think he would have told me. He didn't say he had any of those connections. I hear all that. That doesn't mean it's not true." "I think all these things should be explored." "It's one of the many things that should be explored around Epstein." He finishes, "But saying that and also saying he might be a US asset, etcetera, doesn't make you antisemitic."

"Speaker asserts, 'And Jewish donors, they have a lot of explaining to do, a lot of decoupling to do because Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits.' They state, 'This is a beast created by secular Jews. And now it's coming for Jews and they're like, what on earth happened?' The rant adds, 'And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits. It's the movies. It's Hollywood. It's all of it.' The message: 'It's like time for you guys to wake up and say no more. Draw a line in the sand.' It ends: 'I don't care if you hate me.'"

Republicans are reminded that not all Jewish people support Israel, and it is important not to express hatred towards all Jews. The speaker discusses the ties between Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, and Israel, highlighting connections to Mossad and various individuals. They mention the influence of Israel on discussions about Epstein and claim that Israel controls the platforms where Epstein is discussed. The speaker also brings up the financial ties between Israel and US politicians, including the president and the Clintons. They criticize the Israeli offensive against Palestine and suggest that Israel is responsible for a large human trafficking ring. The speaker questions the support for Israel and argues that calling out a genocide is not anti-Semitic. They mention the cognitive dissonance on the internet and briefly mention TikTok's commitment to freedom of speech.

The speaker claims that AIPAC has bought the seats of 93 out of 100 senators, and that the other 6 are already pro-Zionist. They allege that Jeffrey Epstein ran a child sex trafficking and blackmail operation on behalf of Mossad, targeting figures like Bill Clinton. The speaker suggests that Monica Lewinsky, who is Jewish, was part of a Mossad operation to blackmail Bill Clinton during the Oslo Accords and the Jonathan Pollard situation. They claim Benjamin Netanyahu had phone recordings of Lewinsky and Clinton and used them to try to blackmail Clinton into releasing Jonathan Pollard, an Israeli spy. The speaker states that Israel has been spying on and stealing from the U.S. for a long time, including stealing nuclear weapons technology. They claim John F. Kennedy pushed for inspections of Israel's nuclear program and was lied to. The speaker alleges Israel has a nuclear doctrine called the Samson Option, which dictates that if Israel is about to fall, they will nuke everyone.

The speaker claims that AIPAC has bought the seats of 93 out of 100 senators and that Israel uses a child sex trafficking ring run by Jeffrey Epstein and Mossad to blackmail powerful figures like Bill Clinton. They allege Monica Lewinsky, who is Jewish, was part of this operation. The speaker says Benjamin Netanyahu blackmailed Bill Clinton with recordings of Clinton and Lewinsky to pressure him to release Jonathan Pollard, an Israeli spy. They claim Israel has been spying on and stealing from the U.S. for a long time, including stealing nuclear weapons technology. The speaker states that John F. Kennedy pushed for inspections of Israel's nuclear facilities and was lied to about them. They assert Israel has a nuclear program they have never announced and an unofficial doctrine called the Samson Option, which dictates that if Israel is in danger of failing, they will nuke everyone.

And Jewish donors, they have a lot of explaining to do, a lot of decoupling to do, because Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews. And now it's coming for Jews, and they're like, what on earth happened? And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits. It's the movies. It's Hollywood. It's all of it. It's like time for you guys to wake up and say no more. Draw a line in the sand. I don't care if you hate me.

"We're just gonna try to we're we're gonna just stamp out everything type type of practice, but it goes to the point where if, for example, if I I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do. And that's really, really weird, isn't it, Megan?" "That's not right. Wrong headed." "I So got some blowback after saying Mossad possibilities with Epstein, a comment behind which I stand." "I've, of course, reported what Alan Dershowitz has said as his lawyer." "He says, I think he would have told me." "He didn't say he had any of those connections." "I hear all that. That doesn't mean it's not true." "It's one of the many things that should be explored around Epstein." "But saying that and also saying he might be a US asset, etcetera, doesn't make you antisemitic."

"Here's what Democrats are going to what Jewish Democrats or Jews in general are going to have to make a decision." "Until you crush the cultural Marxist lens of which they view the world, you will never actually be able to build support for Israel." "You cannot subsidize support and play footsie with cultural Marxism and have a future for the state of Israel, so you have to choose." "And Jews have been some of the largest funders of cultural Marxist ideas and supporters of those ideas over the last thirty or forty years." "Stop supporting causes that hate you." "Until you cleanse that ideology from the hierarchy and the academic elite of the West, there will not be a safe future." "Until you shed that ideology, you will not be able to build the case for Israel because they view Israel as an oppressor."

Wake up because I am telling you this is not a battle between left and right. We have to now meet in the middle. Do you think that America should just cut ties with Israel altogether? What's your definition of cut ties? Like, stop funding them? Yes. Stopping their military arm? Yes. I'm on record, sir. APAC needs to register under FARA. I've openly demanded that, and if we had a Department of Justice that was doing its job, they would be investigating APEC. Wherever you are on his ideology, he's a profile in courage. I mean, he's got billions of dollars being spent against him. He's got billions of dollars because people don't want the Epstein release. He's got billions of dollars because APAC has been attacking him.

Speaker 0 attacks Dinesh D'Souza and an unknown figure, calling them 'elite ivory towers' and noting D'Souza 'made six documentaries' and has a 'membership at Mar a Lago' costing '$250,000.' They deride 'low peasant trailer park trash' and say '53% of my paycheck' goes to a government 'inject my children with deadly bio fucking weapons,' adding that 'The only one who's actually seems like they're holding their own... is Bobby Kennedy.' Speaker 1 warns that 'those guys are trying to take MAGA out' the MAGA coalition that included 'Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and Tulsi and Bobby and me.' Speaker 2 argues 'this is a gift to radical Islam because Israel is fighting radical Islam' and cautions against breaking 'our alliance with Israel,' noting 'I'm Christian, I'm not Jewish' and 'Our family has been giving a $100 a year to Jerusalem for biblical archaeology.' Speaker 0 blasts 'Israel is a terrorist state' and condemns the administration for 'selling us out to Israel' and criticizes the films as ineffective, ending with 'Pipe down.'

Speaker 0 says, "powerful institutions are at play here, and there's a coordinated effort to spread this parasitic ideology," and asks, "Are you willing to name the group behind us? Because behind all these institutions, there seems to be a Cohen, a Berg, a Stein." He then asks, "What are your thoughts on the Jewish influence about on gender ideology?" Speaker 1 replies, "So you're you're Am I gonna do anything about the Jews is what you're asking me? No." Okay. Do I need to dignify that with a further response, do think?" He adds, "Or And Jewish donors, they have a lot of explaining to do, a lot of decoupling to do, because Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits." "This is a beast created by secular Jews."

Epstein's network had strong ties to Israel, including figures like Ehud Barak and Leslie Wexner. This network targeted American officials, possibly with CIA involvement. Dan Bongino mentioned a source saying Epstein worked for a Middle Eastern intelligence agency, which I believe was Israel. Israel's government is vulnerable to deep state influences due to its revolutionary founding and the involvement of organized crime figures and terrorist groups like Irgun and Lehi, whose members later became leaders. Post-Gaza, discussing Israel became more open. I even researched and released a documentary on Israel-Palestine just before October 7th, and then the topic exploded online. The Israeli influence, essential for its survival, has become harmful, especially with figures like Epstein, a Jewish sex trafficker working for Israel, which casts a dark shadow.

The speaker discusses various connections between Jeffrey Epstein, Israel, and influential individuals. They mention Epstein's ties to Mossad, Ghislaine Maxwell's connections to Israel, and the involvement of Jewish individuals in Epstein's circle. The speaker emphasizes that not all Jewish people support Israel's actions and condemns any hatred towards all Jews. They also mention the influence of Israel on discussions about Epstein and the financial support received by US politicians from Israel. The speaker raises questions about the motivations behind the recent escalation of violence between Israel and Palestine and criticizes the support for Israel despite allegations of human trafficking and the killing of innocent civilians. They urge people to think critically and not blindly follow their party's beliefs.

Major themes: Epstein scandal and intel ties; unsealing documents; "Alexander Acosta in 02/2007, he said he was told to treat Epstein carefully because he was an intel asset." The panel asks "unseal all the Epstein documents" and ponders if Epstein was an "intel asset" and even a "Mossad" connection: "MI six, Saudi, or Mossad?"; "I wouldn't be surprised one bit" about intel community involvement. On Israel, Beebe says: "I didn't like how he said this. I'll be honest. You can't be MAGA if you're anti Israel." Ben Shapiro defends Israel; they push back against "legacy media are radically anti Israel." They cite polls showing waning American support for Israel's Gaza actions across parties, warn against stand-downs or regional war, and advocate American-first pragmatism while supporting Israel's right to defend itself.

This episode features a wide‑ranging, free‑form discussion of politics, media, and conspiracy theories. The speakers touch on being labeled antisemitic after hosting guests and reference volatile events around Charlie Kirk, Jeffrey Epstein, and Trump, asserting deep Israeli influence over U.S. policy. They claim Jewish donors and networks (APAC, Heritage Foundation’s Project Esther) steer government, media, and finance, and advocate an uncompromising, “America first” stance without softening their message. The conversation shifts to foreign policy in Venezuela, Ukraine, and Iran, alleging occupation and betrayal by U.S. leaders tied to Israel. They criticize figures like Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes, and Tucker Carlson, and discuss internal MAGA divisions and alleged dual loyalties. The later segments promote the J Proof crypto project and related sponsors, alongside discussions of censorship, billboards, and broader controversial histories surrounding Israel, 9/11, and the Holocaust.

Republicans who support Israel are being reminded that Jeffrey Epstein, who had ties to Mossad, was an Israeli spy. Epstein had connections to various individuals with ties to Israel, such as Ghislaine Maxwell, Leslie Wexner, and Ace Greenberg. However, it is important to note that not all Jewish people are Zionists or support Israel's actions. The speaker emphasizes that expressing hatred towards all Jews is unjustified. The speaker also suggests that the reason Epstein is not openly discussed is due to Israel's control over the platforms where discussions take place, rather than the influence of billionaires on his list. The speaker further mentions the financial ties between Israel and US politicians, including the president and the Clintons. The recent escalation of violence between Israel and Palestine is highlighted, with the speaker questioning the narrative that Hamas initiated the conflict. The speaker accuses Israel of being responsible for a large human trafficking ring and using it to influence politicians. The speaker concludes by urging Republicans to consider what they are supporting and questioning the morality of supporting a ring of pedophilia and the killing of innocent people in the name of a Jewish homeland.

Epstein's network was deeply connected to Israel, involving figures like Ehud Barak and Leslie Wexner. This network targeted American officials and even the president. Dan Bongino mentioned a source indicating Epstein worked for a Middle Eastern intelligence agency, which many suspect to be Israel. Israel's government is vulnerable to deep state influence due to its revolutionary founding and the involvement of organized crime figures and terrorist groups like Irgun and Lehi, whose members later became leaders. I was hesitant to delve into Israeli-Palestinian issues, fearing backlash. However, after researching and releasing a documentary on October 6, the October 7 events opened up the conversation. The Israeli influence has become detrimental, particularly with figures like Jeffrey Epstein, whose actions cast a dark shadow on both Israel and the Jewish community.

Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of Intel Services, likely not American, and it's valid to question on whose behalf he operated. How did he go from a math teacher to owning multiple airplanes, a private island, and a large Manhattan house without a college degree? Epstein had direct connections to a foreign government, and while people avoid naming Israel, there's nothing wrong, hateful, antisemitic, or anti-Israel about asking if he worked for Mossad, running a blackmail operation. Everyone in Washington D.C. suspects this, but feels unable to voice it. The speaker believes open discussion is better than suppressed resentment and hate. The question of whether this happened has been posed to the Israeli government, who declined to answer. The speaker argues that as long as the U.S. sends Israel money, the U.S. has a right to know if Israel committed crimes on U.S. soil.