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As a child, the speaker received three vaccines. By 1986, children received 11 doses of five vaccines. Now, children in states with mandates may receive 69 to 92 vaccines between conception and age 18, with varying dose requirements depending on the brand. Each vaccine is designed to permanently alter the immune system. The speaker believes this contributes to an epidemic of immune dysregulation. The speaker suggests vaccines could be a key culprit in the rise of diseases like diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, seizure disorders, ADD, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, tics, Tourette's syndrome, narcolepsy, and autism, which the speaker claims were rare in their childhood. The speaker believes this generation is damaged by these diseases.

The speaker claims that measles was not deadly in the US after the early 1900s, citing improved nutrition and later, Vitamin A treatment. They believe contracting measles can be beneficial, leading to increased resistance to certain diseases. Regarding an outbreak in Samoa, the speaker alleges that a measles vaccine caused deaths, not measles itself, and that they did not influence policy there. They maintain that vaccines cause autism, referencing a CDC study on the hepatitis B vaccine that showed an elevated risk. They accuse the CDC of fraud, claiming a scientist named Paul Thornson produced a study to create the illusion that vaccines don't cause autism, stole money, and is now a fugitive. The speaker states there are hundreds of studies linking vaccines to autism and neurological injuries. They accuse the CDC of being controlled by the pharmaceutical industry.

Polio is still here but is called different things today. The criteria for diagnosing polio in the 1940s and 50s were different after the vaccine was introduced. More paralytic polio occurred after the vaccine, but definitions changed, and testing began for viruses like Guillain Barre syndrome, Coxsackie, or echo virus, as well as lead or mercury poisoning. DDT production mirrored polio diagnoses, and countries still using DDT see paralytic polio. Early cases appeared in rural areas due to arsenic-based sheep and cow dipping. Arsenic exposure mimics polio symptoms. 95-99% of polio is asymptomatic; it's a commensal like staph or strep. Studies of South American tribes showed immunity to polio without related health issues. Viruses generally become less problematic as they spread. In 1916, a Rockefeller lab tried to create a neuropathological polio strain, leading to a severe epidemic with 25% mortality. Polio was made more lethal by human actions. Vaccine-derived polio is transmissible.

The speaker discusses their personal experience with patients developing kidney failure after vaccination and how they started noticing a pattern of vaccines being given to very ill patients. They question the belief that polio disappeared solely because of the vaccine and present data showing that the majority of people infected with poliovirus have no symptoms or only minor symptoms. They suggest that vaccinating every child is unnecessary and question the official history of polio vaccines. They also discuss the use of DDT and arsenic during the time of polio outbreaks and how changes in diagnostic criteria and vaccine formulations contributed to the decline in reported polio cases. They highlight the increase in cases of acute flaccid paralysis and question the effectiveness and safety of polio vaccines.

95 to 99% of polio cases are asymptomatic. The majority of polio cases today are vaccine-derived. The speaker expresses distrust due to perceived lies during the pandemic, citing Fauci's statements to Rand Paul about gain-of-function research and the White House's warnings of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated. The speaker believes these actions were motivated by profit, leading to the creation of billionaires during the pandemic. They suggest a historical pattern in the U.S. of prioritizing profit over people's well-being, implying that individuals will exploit situations for financial gain if they can get away with it, especially with protection and the promise of large profits.

Speaker 0 argues that the myth that vaccines are safe and necessary and that they eradicated childhood disease is false. He claims vaccines have never been tested for safety and that there are no placebo-controlled trials; in trials, the control group is given the immunogens that are in the vaccine, making the comparison deceptive. He emphasizes that vaccines typically contain a protein plus an accompanying substance—the adjuvant or immunogen—that stimulates an immune response, and that these adjuvants (such as aluminum or other substances) by themselves are dangerous. When the control group receives these adjuvants along with the experimental group, he says the side effects are similar, describing this as a “slight hand trick” and “extremely deceptive.” He notes that for the last forty years people have been shouting that there has not been a true placebo-controlled trial with saline. He then argues that if one looks at the history of all the childhood illnesses that vaccines target, they were almost all nearly eradicated before the introduction of the vaccine. He claims that the impression vaccines stop childhood illnesses is not true; almost all illnesses had reduced to extremely low levels due to sanitation and hygiene, development, and some antibiotics. Regarding the vaccines themselves, he states that the true data and history of these vaccines are “really horrible.” He mentions a history of lack of safety and relates it to sudden infant death syndrome, asserting that it “suddenly came out of nowhere as we suspended the schedule” and asks when death occurs. He asserts that sudden infant death syndrome is reproducible in that it occurs at two months, four months, and six months, and that most of those deaths occur within days to a couple of weeks of the vaccine. He concludes with a strong personal stance: if he had his young children today, he would not give them a single vaccine.

The transcript discusses the book Vaccinations Do Not Protect by Eleanor McBean, claiming that vaccination goes against the constitution to take this “garbage.” It asserts that most people don’t know that doctors do not take the shots themselves or give them to their own children, yet they administer them to other people’s children because they receive a commission. It notes that certain physicians have observed patterns such as paralysis within twenty-four hours after the injection, up to six months after, cancer near the injection area, and diseases such as TB within twenty years. The speaker claims that Edward Jenner, the father of vaccination, noticed a similar pattern in 1796, describing it as poisoning the people. The question is posed: why do they do this? The answer given is that vaccination is a big business, and that it is protected by the government. The speaker asserts that vaccination was protected by the government in 1986 so that people cannot sue. It is stated as part of the argument that vaccination is the leading cause of why children die under the age of 15.

Speaker 0 argues that the test cannot distinguish live from dead matter, only analyzes fragments and is set up to guarantee false positives, which the speaker claims was used to create case numbers for declaring a public health emergency of international concern and to enable untested drugs or vaccines to be used on people. Speaker 1 adds that the biggest lie may be that true viral isolates are unavailable, noting that the claimed genome of SARS-CoV-2 exists only in silico as a computer-programmed genome. The speaker says fear is created to control people, describing “fake mythical flying unicorns” that make us sick and asserting that disease is constructed rather than evidenced by visible agents. They claim that there is no evidence of transmission or isolations supporting the idea of a pathogen causing disease in the usual sense. The speaker references Andrew Kaufman, Doctor Cowan, Stephen Lunk, and others to support the claim that, after a year of pandemic conditions, there is no virus proven through traditional means, including in the 1918 influenza pandemic. They state that volunteers were exposed to sputum from infected individuals, or to the sputum directly, without becoming ill; some experiments involved injecting processed material, which also did not cause illness. They note that horses did not consistently transmit illness when exposed to similar materials, and conclude that influenza does not originate from a Latin term for a virus but means “influence,” suggesting historical transmission evidence is weak. The speakers discuss that we do not have approved evidence of transmission, a virus, a test, or autopsies; what exists is a syndrome of symptoms—flu-like symptoms without pathognomonic signs. They propose several alternative causes for COVID-19–like illness, including transmissibility that appears real but isn’t, radiation effects, and other non-disease explanations. Speaker 1 references Dr. Cowan’s book Contagion to illustrate how radiation exposure in mines could mimic disease transmission, where illness is not truly infectious. They argue that non-ionizing electromagnetic fields (EMF) and exposure to graphene oxide toxicity (claimed to be present in vaccines and referred to as viral-based genetic therapies by the FDA) could produce COVID-like symptoms. They also acknowledge an artificially created spike protein in a lab as a known factor. However, they reiterate that there is no evidence for the mythical SARS-CoV-2 virus as a causative agent. In summary, the dialogue challenges the existence of proven SARS-CoV-2 isolates, questions the validity of tests and transmission evidence, and proposes alternative explanations for the illness, including EMF toxicity, graphene oxide toxicity, and lab-made spike proteins, while highlighting a lack of definitive proof for traditional viral causation.

The polio virus is the only virus I know that was man-made, not in Wuhan, but in the US. A live virus was modified, supposedly making it harmless. Some were vaccinated with the killed, inactive vaccine, while others received a live vaccine orally. In the gut, this virus combined with others, similar to what we saw with COVID, creating a new, dangerous virus that causes polio. The polio virus we see today isn't natural; it's man-made. There are now thirty times more cases of polio caused by the vaccine virus than by the original virus.

The speaker discusses polio and vaccines by tracing how the disease is perceived versus the data. Polio is described as “the worst disease in world history, not actually, but that's the spin,” and similarly framed as “completely eliminated by mass vaccination, not actually, but that's the spin.” Looking at polio globally, with eight billion people on Earth, the speaker asks how many people died last year from polio, answering “Zero.” The number who had paralysis from polio is stated as “Five hundred and sixty, and ninety seven percent of them was vaccine strain or vaccine induced poliomyelitis.” The speaker notes that opponents claim this is due to vaccination, but then raises the question of how that accounts for more than a billion people on Earth who never had the polio vaccine, asserting they have the exact same death rate. The argument is extended to measles, with the claim that the death rate is the same whether or not one is vaccinated, and similarly for other diseases. The speaker emphasizes a specific approach used in a book: “the only way to do it, I think, compare the product, are they all the same? The diseases, are they all the same?” This leads to the central question of how to handle risk for one’s children. A quick final point compares vaccine decisions to everyday risk decisions. Parents weigh disease risk and vaccine risk when deciding whether their kids should engage in activities such as football, which could involve a head injury; riding a bicycle at night, which could lead to injury; or sleeping over at someone’s house. The speaker argues that all of these are risk decisions quite similar to the vaccine and disease decision because you have to weigh the disease and weigh the vaccine. Yet, the speaker notes, there has never been a mandate for football, and there has never been a mandate that children not ride bikes at night in their neighborhood, or that they not sleep over at someone’s house if they don’t feel good about it in their particular neighborhood.

Vaccination has saved many lives, with a focus on preventing tragic deaths in young people. However, concerns have been raised about vaccines causing diseases they are meant to prevent. In India, the push for polio eradication has led to cases of non-polio paralysis in children who received the vaccine. These children faced a higher risk of death compared to those infected by the wild poliovirus. The vaccine-derived paralysis is clinically similar to polio paralysis, raising questions about past polio outbreak data.

"the live virus vaccine for polio does cause the disease itself." "Not not not quite that many. A hundred and forty or so have been reported, but the likelihood is that the number is, as you say, two hundred or more because of reporting problems." "the data showing from the very outset that the live virus vaccine was causing polio." "I found that it was possible to make the kill virus vaccine work, but it was also possible to make it not work." "It worked if you did what nature told you to do, namely to use enough virus in the vaccine, to give the requisite number of doses depending upon potency." "absolutely positive assertion that the live virus vaccine could be given without risk of paralysis." "You don't need booster injections with one anymore than you do with the other."

The speakers discuss the effectiveness of live vaccines and question the necessity of mass vaccination for diseases like polio. They mention the disappearance of polio in Europe without mass vaccination and raise concerns about potential links between vaccines and conditions like multiple sclerosis. One speaker shares their personal experience with Guillain Barre syndrome following a swine flu vaccination and suggests that immunizations may trigger autoimmune reactions. They advise individuals with neurological conditions to review their vaccine histories carefully.

The speakers discuss polio, noting the Sabin vaccine is live and the Salk vaccine is inactive. One speaker questions why polio disappeared in Europe in the 1940s and 50s without mass vaccination and why it's rare in the third world despite low immunization rates. A question is raised about a possible link between vaccines and multiple sclerosis (MS). One speaker mentions a new publication linking MS in later life to early live virus vaccines like measles. They recommend that individuals with MS, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or similar conditions review their vaccine histories. Another speaker, a Guillain-Barré syndrome victim following a swine flu shot, claims research suggests immunizations frequently cause autoimmune issues.

Polio is still here but is called different things today. The criteria for diagnosing polio in the 1940s and 50s were different after the vaccine was introduced. There was more paralytic polio after the vaccine, but definitions changed, and they started testing for the virus. People were found to have Guillain Barre syndrome, Coxsackie virus, echo virus, or lead/mercury poisoning. The tonnage of DDT production mirrored polio diagnoses. Countries still making DDT have paralytic polio. Early cases broke out in rural communities due to sheep and cow dipping, involving arsenic. Arsenic causes the same spinal pathology, fevers, etc., as polio. 95-99% of polio is asymptomatic; it's a commensal. Studies of South American tribes showed immunity to all three strains of polio with no crippled children. Most viruses become less problematic as they go through the human system. A Rockefeller lab in 1916 tried to create a pathological strain of polio, which was released and caused the worst polio epidemic on record. Vaccine-derived polio is transmissible.

The discussion highlights the debate surrounding the effectiveness of polio vaccines, questioning why polio disappeared in Europe in the 1940s and 1950s without mass vaccination. There’s a suggestion that we might be addressing a problem that no longer exists. A question arises about the potential link between vaccines and conditions like multiple sclerosis (MS), referencing a new publication that connects early live virus vaccinations to later MS development. It’s advised that individuals with MS or similar neurological conditions review their vaccination histories. Additionally, a participant shares her experience as a Guillain-Barré syndrome victim following a swine flu vaccination and notes her research indicating that immunizations may often trigger autoimmune responses.

The speaker claims the medical landscape is dominated by COVID vaccine injuries, disabilities, and deaths, and that they submit multiple entries daily to VAERS, facing scrutiny and potential penalties for falsification. They state they diagnosed an executive in her late thirties with Guillain Barre syndrome from COVID-19 vaccination. The speaker estimates that only 1% of manuscripts on COVID vaccine injuries are being published, suggesting a tremendous bias, and that there are about 4,000 papers on the vaccine debacle, which is about 1% of reality. They claim to have never seen myocarditis, heart failure, or blood clots from eating frosted flakes, but are seeing people devastated by the shots. The speaker advocates for removing COVID-19 vaccines from the market, a critical reevaluation of the vaccine schedule, dropping all vaccine mandates, and rescinding the 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act.

According to the speaker, 95-99% of polio cases are asymptomatic because poliovirus is a commensal organism. Studies by the Indian Health Service of the Javonte Indians in South America found that 98-99% of those tested had immunity to all three strains of polio, yet the tribe had no instances of crippled children, short legs, or deaths from respiratory failure. The speaker claims that most viruses become less problematic as they spread through the human system. They cite COVID-19 as an example, where the initial strain was highly virulent but less contagious, while later variants like Omicron were more contagious but less pathological. The speaker suggests that significant problems with microbes typically arise when they are reverse attenuated, made more lethal in a lab, and then introduced into the population.

Polio is still here but is called different things today. The criteria for diagnosing polio in the 1940s and 50s were different after the vaccine was introduced. There was more paralytic polio after the vaccine, but the definitions changed. They started testing for the virus and found Guillain Barre syndrome, Coxsackie virus, echo virus, or lead/mercury poisoning. DDT production mirrored polio diagnoses. Paralytic polio occurred in countries still making DDT. Early cases broke out in rural communities due to sheep and cow dipping using arsenic, mercurials, calcium arsenate, and lead arsenate sprays. Arsenic causes the same spinal pathology, fevers, and symptoms as polio. 95-99% of polio is asymptomatic and is a commensal. Studies of the Javonte Indians showed 98-99% had immunity to all three strains of polio without crippled children or respiratory failure. Most viruses become less problematic as they go through the human system. In 1916, a Rockefeller lab tried to create a pathological strain of polio, which was accidentally released, causing the worst polio epidemic on record with 25% mortality. Vaccine-derived polio is transmissible.

Viruses have never been isolated, which is a major fraud against humanity. There is no measles virus, and each year a new virus with similar symptoms emerges. This started with the Third Reich and Doctor Enders. In my book, "A Second Thought about Viruses, Vaccines, and the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis," I discuss this issue. Even Professor Peter Guisberg lost his funding at Berkeley University for writing "Inventing the AIDS Virus" and questioning the existence of a virus. The situation is dire.

The speaker discusses the controversy surrounding vaccines and the history of polio. They mention that some people believe vaccines are not good and argue that polio was caused by factors other than a virus. They talk about the use of DDT as an insecticide and its potential connection to polio cases. The speaker also mentions the use of lead arsenate as a pesticide and its possible role in causing paralysis. They question the mainstream explanation of polio and suggest alternative theories. The speaker presents maps showing the distribution of polio cases and raises questions about the geographic patterns.

The speaker states they would not give their children the measles, mumps vaccine, claiming that measles was deadly in the early 1900s, but is now easily survivable, especially with Vitamin A. They claim studies show that contracting measles can make children healthier and more resistant to diseases later in life. The speaker denies causing a measles outbreak in Samoa, stating the Prime Minister had already banned the vaccine after deaths, and that people died from a bad vaccine imported from Australia, not measles. The speaker asserts that vaccines cause autism, citing a CDC study that showed an elevated risk of autism in children who received the hepatitis B vaccine within their first 30 days. They claim that studies disproving this link were fraudulent, conducted by "biostitutes" paid by the CDC, and that the lead scientist, Paul Thorensen, is a fugitive wanted for stealing money. The speaker claims there are hundreds of studies linking vaccines to autism and neurological injuries.

The speaker argues that the vaccine program should stop and that injecting foreign matter into babies cannot be considered an improvement to their health. They reference Peter McCullough as someone who said the program needs to halt. They criticize the expansion of vaccine policy since the 1986 Act, which granted liability protection for the trio of vaccines (MMR, DPT, and polio) at the time, and suggest there was no foresight about expanding to multiple doses of many vaccines for little babies. Now that this has happened, they insist it must end. They point to polio as an example, noting that children still receive four polio vaccines even though polio has not appeared in the Western Hemisphere since 1991, and that the World Health Organization declared the region polio-free in 1994. They question why four doses of polio vaccines, which contain monkey kidney cells and formaldehyde, are given for a disease the region is no longer exposed to. They ask, “Why? To protect against what? That’s not even here.” They extend the argument to “the same thing” with other vaccines. The speaker asserts that measles has not been deadly since 1963 and explains that the measles virus has a life cycle in which an outbreak occurs roughly every four years regardless of vaccination rates. They make a similar claim about pertussis. They argue that injecting foreign matter into children does not improve their health and is not preventing deadly diseases that are now treated with antibiotics, steroids, inhalers, and other therapies. They point out that it is not a big deal to have multiple tetanus shots and still contract tetanus, using this as evidence about the effectiveness of tetanus vaccination. Overall, the speaker contends that the concept of deadly diseases being eradicated by vaccines is a multi-generational myth and that vaccines are not reliably protective. They argue that the practice has run its course and that it is overdue for the entire vaccine program to end, suggesting that it did its job and should now be discontinued. The concluding stance is that the multi-generational myth of deadly diseases and the safety and protection of vaccines should stop, and that the program should be ended.

The speaker claims the polio vaccine is "very, very problematic," stating that the WHO acknowledges 70% of this year's polio cases were caused by the vaccine itself, not wild polio. The speaker argues that there was no polio in the Congo or the Philippines, and the only polio in Africa is "Gates' polio," a vaccine strain. The speaker suggests it is wrong to give someone polio via vaccination when the disease was previously absent in their country. The speaker asserts that a better, safer polio vaccine exists, one that does not cause polio, but Gates doesn't want to pay for it for Africans or Indians, instead providing a vaccine that spreads the disease.

DDT was in widespread use as a pesticide when polio cases were prevalent. DDT is no longer used in America, but it is still used in other countries where polio-like symptoms are common. One of the effects of DDT poisoning is polio-like symptoms, called encephalopathy. Polio was something that was going on in the early part of the twentieth century, and it's widely credited that the polio vaccine is what stopped that. The speaker questions the general narrative that vaccines are an amazing cure. They believe there are other factors, such as hygiene. The book "Dissolving Illusions" is about the origins of vaccines, what vaccines have done to stop disease spread, and the negative side effects. There are side effects to vaccines, and they don't want to advertise those problems. One person was addicted to the COVID vaccine and did seven inoculations. A doctor told a lady in the neighborhood to stop getting boosted, but she wanted to go to LA to get boosted.