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From the jungle to the interview chair, Rinella threads a story of hunting as a lived practice rather than a cinematic hobby. He recalls real-life South American encounters with Mashi and Makushi hunters in Bolivia and Guyana, where a shotgun and improvised ammo built through leaf wrappers and candle wax can become a night’s tool. Under a fig tree they spot a red howler monkey and its infant; the shot lands, the meat is cured by smoking, boiling, and roasting, and the crew films some of it. The monkey meat proves tough, but the daily rhythm of these communities—hunting and fishing 250 days a year—illustrates that for them, survival, culture, and skill fuse into a way of life. He shifts to dog meat in Vietnam, recounting a Northern Tat holiday story that sparked fierce backlash after Outside Magazine published a feature on thit cho. He describes the moral churn—hot spices and guilt mingle as he tastes fare that is both part of a ritual economy and a source of controversy. The reaction was intense, including vitriolic emails, though Rinella says he was surprised by how little pushback compared with other issues. He argues that learning from indigenous hunters goes beyond taboos, and he highlights field skills he witnessed, such as how local trackers solve problems that non-natives cannot see. Rinella widens the lens to Africa, describing Tanzania’s wildlife management through large hunting concessions that generate revenue for the government and fund habitat preservation. A 2-million-acre game area hosts hunts with set quotas, and trophy fees flow back to Tanzania. He contrasts this with debates over public lands in the United States, where many Americans value open access and habitat protection. He notes that private and public approaches coexist, including Burning Man on BLM land and the public’s love of accessible spaces, while acknowledging the complexity of enforcement, poverty, and development pressures. He traces American hunting from Daniel Boone’s frontier era to Roosevelt’s conservation push, describing market hunting and the later curb through the Lacey Act and the Boon and Crockett Club. He explains how the wild meat economy shaped cities, beaver and buffalo trades, and the shift toward public ownership and regulation. He also reflects on balancing work with family life, emphasizing that when at home, he cooks and eats wild meat with his family, while mentoring his children in hunting and outdoor skills.

Theo Von interviews Toby Savoy, a death investigator and coroner in Lafayette, Louisiana, about the day‑to‑day work, cases, and the culture surrounding death in a rural parish. Savoy explains that in Louisiana a coroner’s office functions as an elected medical‑legal authority, with death investigators like him handling most on‑scene work. Calls come from Sheriff’s offices, city police, hospitals, and nursing homes, and cases are categorized as natural, accidental, homicide, or suicide. Many natural deaths can be released over the phone without an on‑scene visit, but officers and detectives may accompany investigations in suspicious cases. When on scene, they carry a gear bag and collect toxicology samples, often drawing blood from the heart or accessing eye fluid (vitreous humor) via a horizontal needle to avoid clotting; if needed, they can sample liver tissue. They also examine the residence and surroundings to understand the decedent’s life and circumstances, not just the body. Savoy recounts cases from bayous with bodies floating in water, where decomposition and animal scavenging can obscure cause, to a single case where an elderly couple’s routine was misread as foul play and subsequent autopsy clarified the death. He stresses collaboration with law enforcement, noting that deputies and detectives bring historical context and informants, while coroner‑level medical knowledge helps interpret signs of trauma or medical death. He describes the practical reality of scene work, such as how sometimes soldiers or inexperienced responders have to be guided away from disturbing evidence, and how the body bag and chain of custody are critical to preserving evidence. He also shares vivid anecdotes: a body with arms removed found in a ditch, a foot recovered weeks later in a case, and mass‑death scenes involving boaters or wrecks where federal agencies cooperate. The discussion shifts to death by overdose, with Savoy noting fentanyl and crystal meth have driven a surge in ODs across all ages, and explaining how the opioid crisis stemmed in part from the now‑well‑documented Press Ganey pain‑control push in hospitals that encouraged aggressive analgesia and contributed to widespread prescription opioid addiction. He contrasts crack era deaths with fentanyl, explaining fentanyl’s potency and the growing problem of fentanyl laced with other drugs like xylazine (“tranq”). He discusses the role coroner’s offices play in evaluating drug involvement, toxicity, and multiple substances, and mentions the rise in polypharmacy and the prevalence of dual diagnoses requiring rehab or psychiatric care, which the system often fails to provide in a timely way. Savoy speaks candidly about the emotional toll: tragedies during holidays, the pain of losing young people to drugs or gun violence, and the personal responsibility he feels to try to help families despite the limitations of the system. Savoy covers the ordinary and the extreme: the constant threat to officers on scene, the logistics of autopsy and disease, the sometimes grisly realities of animal involvement in death, and the steady need for compassion, humor, and resilience. Savoy reflects on the human side—how the job shapes his faith, his coping through music, and his ongoing commitment to reduce preventable deaths by educating families and communities. He closes with a sense of Louisiana’s character: a place where death is common, but life and humor persist, and where every day is a gift.

Dustin Wilson, one of about 200 Master Sommeliers globally, shares his journey from a geography major in Maryland to a career in wine. He began working in restaurants as a teenager, which led him to discover his passion for wine while working at Ruth's Chris in Baltimore. His interest deepened as he learned about wine's complexities and variations, prompting him to pursue the Master Sommelier title through the Court of Master Sommeliers. The process involves four levels of examinations, starting with an introductory test and culminating in the Master Sommelier exam, which has a pass rate of less than 10%. Dustin emphasizes the rigorous study and practice required, often taking years to prepare. He explains that a sommelier typically manages a restaurant's wine program, while the Master Sommelier title signifies a high level of expertise. Dustin discusses the challenges faced by the restaurant industry during the COVID-19 pandemic, noting that many establishments may not survive due to high operating costs and reduced capacity regulations. He highlights the importance of supporting local businesses and the potential long-term changes in dining culture. He also touches on the impact of tariffs on wine prices, particularly for French wines, and how this affects consumer behavior. Dustin believes that wine investing can be lucrative but requires knowledge and access to quality wines. He mentions a recent cheating scandal in the sommelier community, which raised questions about the integrity of the examination process. Dustin now runs Verve Wine, a retail business with physical locations in New York and San Francisco, and an e-commerce platform aimed at providing curated wine selections. He sees a significant opportunity in the online wine market, especially after the pandemic accelerated e-commerce trends. Finally, he encourages consumers to explore quality wines and emphasizes the importance of personal preference in wine enjoyment.

In this episode, Rich Roll hosts Chris Hauth, Ryan "Birdman" Parrot, and Alex Bracey, who are preparing for an ambitious challenge called the 7x project. This endeavor involves skydiving, base jumping, running a full marathon, and swimming on all seven continents within seven days. The project aims to gather data on human performance and recovery from high-stress situations, particularly to assist veterans in coping with the traumas of their service. Ryan Parrot shares his motivation for the project, stemming from the tragic suicide of his sniper partner, David Metcalf. He emphasizes the need to address the silent epidemic of veteran suicides, which have outnumbered combat deaths since 9/11. The team aims to raise awareness and funds to help veterans through better self-care practices, focusing on nutrition, sleep, movement, and mindset. The logistics of the project are complex, involving a team of around 75-80 people, including veterans and support staff. They will travel on a specially chartered 757 aircraft, starting in Cape Town, South Africa, and moving to various locations including Antarctica, Australia, Dubai, Egypt, London, and Cartagena, before concluding in the United States. Each location presents unique challenges, such as extreme weather conditions and logistical hurdles. The team discusses the importance of proper training and recovery, with Chris Hauth serving as their coach. He highlights the need for individualized training plans to accommodate the varying fitness levels and experiences of the participants. The training includes simulations and endurance runs to prepare for the physical demands of the challenge. Throughout the conversation, the hosts reflect on the mental health challenges faced by veterans and first responders, emphasizing the importance of community and connection in overcoming these issues. They advocate for a shift in mindset around goal-setting, suggesting that individuals focus on nourishing their well-being rather than adhering to rigid performance metrics. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to support the project and its associated charities, which focus on veteran mental health and well-being. The team is committed to sharing their journey and findings through a documentary and a manual that will provide resources for veterans and others seeking to improve their health and resilience.

Bobby Cotton is a Minneapolis-based trauma restoration professional who cleans up after fires, floods, mold, trauma, and deaths. The field, called restoration, includes natural disasters, property losses, and scenes involving suicides or murders. When incidents occur, crews board up buildings to protect property, often funded by insurers or owners. Cotton recalls working around the clock during the George Floyd riots to secure storefronts and prevent looting, then cleaning graffiti and facing threats. Trauma cleanup centers on scenes with deceased individuals and bodily fluids, while restoration covers a broader range of damage. A key example is a manufacturing accident where a lathe degloved a worker’s hand. The area is sealed with plastic, and contaminated materials are bagged and disposed of as biohazard waste, usually incinerated. Materials differ: wood, concrete, drywall, flooring, and joists may be removed and replaced. The work relies on standards codified in a restoration manual called the S500 and demands extensive documentation, sometimes hundreds or thousands of photos for large losses, like a hotel with dozens of affected rooms. Cotton explains wellness-check calls often lead to trauma scenes. He describes a Christmas Eve hoarder case in which sewage overflowed flooded a condo, a man in diapers, a room of filth, vomiting, and a coworker vomiting into a mask; a shotgun death in an apartment that left BB holes in walls, requiring removal of studs, drying, odor control, ozone, and roof patching. He emphasizes the emotional toll and how the work can desensitize workers, while acknowledging it is not glamorous. Career logistics: Cotton usually acts as a project manager, coordinating subcontractors rather than employing staff, and seeks larger losses and hurricane‑scale work. He notes five or six figure payoffs in big jobs and the potential to reach seven figures per year. He discusses his father’s lesson: there are three paths to success—do something better than anyone, do something no one else can do, or do something no one wants to do. He also shares personal details: he left school early, has two roommates, and plans to invest in real estate to fund retirement. He reflects on mental health needs and the strong sensory aspects of his work, including the ammonia smell of urine and hoarded smells, and admits the job can strain personal life while rewarding him with variety and purpose.

Robert Huffman runs Hazard Mill Farms, a second‑generation turkey operation that farms roughly 75,000 birds a year and ships product year‑round. Thanksgiving is busy, but he says "we pump turkeys 24/7" and the market share skews toward sustained production rather than a single holiday rush. A flock is housed in two barns; each lasts about 19 weeks as a full‑grown bird, with harvests cycling between groups and downtime for cleaning. Per flock revenue runs around "19,000, 20 to 22,000" dollars. Birds go to market averaging 40 to 45 pounds; feed is a corn/soybean mix (sometimes wheat), water kept at optimal pH, and a continuous feed line over 800 feet. Biosecurity is strict: suit up, dip pans, and prevent outside contamination. Welfare is emphasized; this is their livelihood and family business. On the processing side, turkeys are loaded into trucks, sent to processing facilities, and out within 24–48 hours. There are two on‑farm euthanasia options: a bolt gun or a CO2 setup, with carcasses composted for crop rotation. If he keeps a bird, it’s typically for family or friends; he notes the broad industry context, including major players like Butterball, and explains Hazard Mill Farms’ two divisions: antibiotic‑free and organic turkeys. Organic turkeys must come from organic females (closest source he cites is Pennsylvania via contract farms). Grass‑fed and antibiotic‑free have regulated, vet‑supervised differences; cage‑free is described as a misleading term, since birds are not kept in cages but housed in large barns with doors that may or may not be opened. Beyond turkeys, he emphasizes diversification: Hazmat Selects growing CBD hemp; Virginia has legalized marijuana, and he’s pursuing permits for cannabis and winery ambitions, plus an events barn, wine tastings, and agritourism. The family farm sits on the Shenandoah River with a conservation easement to prevent development; the Virginia poultry industry is a multi‑billion dollar business. He stresses saving small farms, community outreach (4‑H tours, hunting youth day), and entrepreneurship as a path to family continuity. He also shares that his wife is a former chef who runs a food truck, they have a daughter, and he runs Brazilian Jiu‑Jitsu gyms while supporting causes.

In this episode of The Koerner Office, Chris Koerner hosts a freeform Q&A where he revisits practical strategies for niche businesses and scaling ventures. He revisits a concept of partnering with cremation facilities to offload logistics while expanding vet-driven revenue, explaining how he pitched this structure as a win-win: the cremation facility would gain growth without managing fleets, while the partner would gain access to a steady stream of veterinary clients. The discussion moves through tactical steps for vet outreach, including approaching clinics as a middleman, clarifying margins, and using data to justify pricing. Chris walks a caller through concepts like installing a lean logistics backbone, negotiating margins, and testing partnerships before committing to expensive leases or equipment. The episode then shifts to an entrepreneurial mind-set with a Phoenix-area caller exploring a quiet study space business, and how to validate demand with field surveys, space planning (shipping-container or compact rooms), and price points. They drill into whether the model should be subscription-based or usage-based, and consider ancillary revenue from refreshments and testing services, such as proctored exams, to broaden appeal. The conversation also branches into a potential catch-all lead-gen business for luxury yacht charters and a different, more productized idea: creating a higher-amenity RV park targeted at blue-collar workers in Texas. Chris shares a bear-versus-bull case for entering the RV park space, emphasizing market fit, replacement costs, and the prudence of acquiring existing parks rather than building anew. Across segments, the host stresses evidence-based validation, cautious leverage, and iterative testing before large commitments, while inviting audience feedback on the Q&A format and future topics.

Brad White, a detective and officer with twenty years on the Los Angeles Police Department, describes a career that began at twenty-one with a full uniform, shotgun, and pistol, and a rush of adrenaline rather than fear. He explains the early learning curve: “you walk up to something... you have no idea what you're walking up to,” and the expectation that you know what to do in any scenario. He recalls witnessing violence and death, including the first time he saw a person die after a chase, plus CPR at drownings and a child’s death, underscoring how rendering aid carries civil liability risk. He speaks frankly about mental health, insisting that “the number one killer cops is suicide” and noting the academy taught life-saving skills but not mental health. He reflects on the Rodney King era, the rise of social media, and public expectations, stressing that good officers exist across communities and that demonizing all cops is not accurate. White advocates a balance in gun policy, saying: “we need more guns in good people’s hands,” and he supports concealed carry, while acknowledging California’s tougher CCW process. He discusses how high-risk confrontations unfold, where a suspect resists and an officer must stop a threat, and he cautions against simplistic judgments about proportionality and risk. He argues for trained security in public spaces, including private stores, and he mentions the possibility of robots in extreme scenarios, clarifying that any plan would be highly constrained. He shares vivid drug stories from narcotics work: a naked man in a busy intersection on PCP, heroin balloons retrieved from a body, a keistered racquetball with drugs, and a Coke bottle with suction issues, plus the hazards of meth-fueled encounters and park sex scenes. He notes homelessness policy and the way reforms can complicate practical policing. He discusses homicide work: notifying families of deaths, the emotional toll, and why homicide rarely yields lasting satisfaction beyond justice; the need for mental-health support for officers. He closes with the idea that his path into policing began by chance while coaching a youth team, and that, despite the toll, he would choose the job again, hoping listeners gain a clearer sense of the reality behind the badge.

Frank Giles, a mortician in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, describes his role as a concierge for the dark arts, guiding families through the final frontier of death. The process begins with a phone call from hospice, hospital, nursing home, or county coroner; the caller provides name, location, next of kin, and basic details. Giles' crew arrives immediately, often at two o’clock in the morning, suited up, after an answering service relays the call, and they retrieve the body from the residence, hospital, or care facility. They always work with two people, because you never know what you’ll encounter, and they may need extra help with large individuals. They’ve moved bodies from attics, basements, bathrooms, bedrooms, sometimes lifting a person under 600 pounds, using sheets, body movers, and eventually a mortuary cot. Back at the funeral home, embalming begins if the family chooses it, sometimes at two in the morning, because next call could arrive any time. Giles' facility handles about 125 funerals per year at one site and about 120 at another. The business follows seasonal patterns: the first quarter is the busiest due to post‑holiday stress and the need to face losses after Christmas and Thanksgiving. In rural Christian County there is no local medical examiner; the coroner responds, and if there is no foul play and no autopsy needed, the body is released to the funeral home. In larger cities, autopsies are more common; Kentucky relies on a pathologist in Madisonville to cover the western part of the state, and autopsy decisions weigh medical history and family input. They discussed hypothetical killers choosing rural counties for fewer resources, but the conversation did not endorse any claim. After embalming, the body is preserved for viewing or cremation. If cremation is chosen, the body is placed in a chamber heated to around 1400 degrees; crematories have weight limits, sometimes 500–700 or up to a thousand pounds. A large patient once caused a grease fire in a crematory, and the operator learned a hard lesson. The cremains are ground to a powder, and the finish can vary in fineness depending on the facility. Arterial solutions for embalming include formaldehyde and glutaraldehyde with perfumes and conditioners. Chromatek pink is a common color used for cosmetic tinting; about two and a half gallons of solution are injected, while blood is flushed out through the veins. Pacemakers must be removed before cremation to prevent explosions. Between embalming and viewing, families may request changes: outfits, cosmetics, and casket choice. The famous 1985 FTC rule requires itemized charges for every service and product. Open or closed caskets are determined by family preference, and vaults may be required by cemeteries to support earth and prevent water ingress. Kentucky allows minimal dirt coverage if a vault is used; laws vary by state. They describe postmortem staining when blood settles in the face and can produce difficult concealment, and they warn jaundice can turn the body green if the wrong fluids are used. They explain wiring the mouth shut, using eye caps, and sometimes corking or plugging the body to control leakage. The interview covers open versus closed viewing and the importance of treating the deceased with dignity. Giles shares anecdotes about repatriating a World War II soldier from Bataan, airport arrivals, flag‑draped hearses, and a community response honoring veterans.

Doug Duren and Nathan Ihde join the podcast to discuss various topics related to farming, hunting, and the differences between organic and conventional meat. A recent study from Newcastle University reveals that organic meat and milk contain about 50% more beneficial omega-3 fatty acids than their conventional counterparts, challenging the skepticism surrounding grass-fed and organic products. Doug shares his experiences with cattle, emphasizing the importance of feeding cows their natural diet of grass rather than corn or soybeans, which can negatively impact their health and the quality of the meat. The conversation shifts to the evolution of farming practices, highlighting the shift from small family farms to large-scale factory farming, which Doug attributes to policies from the Nixon administration aimed at increasing agricultural efficiency. This transition has led to a decline in small farms and raised concerns about the environmental impact of large operations, including issues related to waste management and animal welfare. Doug discusses his current herd of Herefords and the differences between cattle breeds, explaining how certain breeds are more efficient in weight gain or milk production. The discussion touches on the economic pressures faced by farmers, with Doug recalling how milk prices have plummeted over the decades, making it difficult for family farms to survive. The podcast also addresses the disconnect urban dwellers have with food production, emphasizing the importance of knowing where food comes from and the reverence required in raising and processing animals for meat. Doug encourages listeners to connect with local farmers and understand the processes involved in meat production. The conversation further explores the ethical implications of hunting and farming, with Doug expressing frustration over factory farming practices and the lack of respect for animals in large operations. He contrasts this with his own practices, which focus on sustainable farming and animal welfare. As the discussion progresses, they delve into the complexities of wildlife management, including the challenges posed by overpopulation of deer and the necessity of hunting to maintain ecological balance. Doug shares anecdotes about hunting experiences and the camaraderie that comes with it, while also addressing the ethical considerations of hunting methods and the impact of human activity on wildlife. The podcast concludes with a reflection on the importance of sustainable practices in agriculture and hunting, advocating for a balanced approach to food production that respects both animals and the environment. Doug emphasizes the need for education and awareness in addressing the challenges of modern farming and wildlife management, encouraging listeners to engage in meaningful conversations about these issues.