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The speakers discuss the legitimacy of various elections, including the 2016 and 2020 US presidential elections. They express concerns about Russian interference, voter suppression, and irregularities with electronic voting machines. Some speakers believe that the election outcomes were affected and that the presidents were illegitimate. They mention specific cases like Bush vs. Gore in 2000 and the 2004 Ohio election. Stacey Abrams' loss in Georgia is also mentioned, with some speakers claiming that her election was stolen. Overall, the speakers question the fairness and integrity of these elections.

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The discussion centers on the integrity of the 2020 election processes and how Georgia’s handling of audits and recounts could shape reforms for 2026. Speaker 0 argues that ensuring elections represent the will of the people is fundamental, noting that Trump and his allies made a spectacle in 2020 by pursuing audits and recounts and even the Capitol insurrection, yet Georgia, among other states, would not have allowed Trump to win even without Georgia’s results. They claim Democrats and progressives avoided touching the issue in 2024 despite Trump’s unexpected nationwide sweep, and criticize the inability to conduct a proper recount. Speaker 1 warns that Trump’s team is likely to present ballots and photographs from 2020 to claim irregularities, arguing that there were thousands of irregularities in Fulton County, with miscounts and ballot manipulation possible, though there is no evidence that these irregularities would have changed the Georgia result. They contend that irregularities occurred both ways and tended to offset, but many records were destroyed and the recount and audit lacked quality. The speaker asserts that 2026 must avoid untrustworthy machines and inadequate audit/recount processes. The speakers discuss the possibility that Trump’s supporters will use information from the DOJ to misrepresent the facts, stating that even if facts were presented, they would expose known errors in the certified processes. They allege that ballots were counted multiple times during the recount, including counting some ballots two or three times and even introducing fake test ballots to force outcomes. Marilyn is cited as noting that a Barack Obama appointee judge confirmed the unreliability of Dominion machines, and that a demonstration at DEF CON Voting Village showed how easily a Dominion machine could be hacked. Jessica is referenced as discussing Phil Davis, a pro-Trump election integrity figure who admitted that Biden won Georgia despite his broader views. The point is to emphasize that, even among election integrity experts with conservative leanings, there is belief that Biden won Georgia. The conversation returns to Raffensperger, who selected the machines and the audit/recount method, spending approximately $150 million on machines and avoiding transparency about errors. The guests argue that the law required a hand count at tables with representatives from both campaigns and the clerk, instead of a machine-only recount. Bypassing this process enabled the perception of fraud and contributed to the January 6 insurrection’s fuel in Georgia. A key lesson for 2026, they assert, is to implement a transparent process with hand counts and representative participation at counting tables, preventing the bypass of proper procedures and reducing the political pressure that distorts outcomes. They critique the atmosphere surrounding the 2020 aftermath as vilifying and pressure-filled, predicting a similar environment in 2026 unless genuine transparency and nonpartisan verification are pursued.

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Georgia owes President Donald J. Trump an apology for election fraud. Evidence shows 17,852 votes were counted without ballot images, and 3,930 ballots were scanned and counted twice intentionally. The process involved randomly selecting and rescanning ballots on different days. This deliberate duplication was not an administrative error but human intervention, constituting election fraud. The speaker urges Secretary Raffensperger to investigate independently.

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The discussion revolves around ballot counting issues at the dome during the election. It was reported that Democrats resumed counting after Republicans left due to supposed leak issues. Video evidence shows Democrats returning to count ballots, with claims of ballot stuffing occurring during that time. There are allegations of canvassers being paid to collect absentee ballots, which raises legal concerns. The conversation highlights strategies to manipulate vote counts without drawing attention, particularly in areas with established voting patterns. Investigations are mentioned, along with the recognition of individuals involved in suspicious activities. Overall, there is a focus on potential election fraud and the mechanisms behind it.

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The speakers tour sites in Atlanta that they say show problems with voter registration and housing. They point to 477 P Street Northeast, where they state that, according to Georgia registration rolls updated less than two weeks ago, over 70 people are actively registered to vote from that location, even though the Peachtree Pine homeless shelter behind them was closed in 2017. They question why those former residents remain on the rolls and propose that there should be automatic purges when a shelter closes. They note the property is private, boarded up, with danger and no trespassing signs, and they attempt to enter entrances but are blocked. They compare the 70-some registrations at that site to the expectation that USPS would drop off mail or voter information for residents, and they express skepticism about how such registrations could occur. They also highlight a UPS store at 2625 Piedmont Road Northeast, where they say 96 people are still registered to vote from that address, again asserting this is a violation of Georgia law because a UPS store, PO box, or virtual mailbox cannot be a place of residence. They say the law specifies that where you vote from is where you live and rest, and they emphasize that this is a clear violation. The discussion shifts to the idea that, in addition to homelessness and voting, welfare fraud could be connected to these registrations. They claim that some churches act with advocacy groups to sign up homeless people for benefits and that this could involve checks sent to addresses used for registration. They allege that an outreach program at services and mail lines at a neighboring center, the central outreach and advocacy center, handles housing needs and mail for thousands of people. They report that the organization took in almost $700,000, with a government grant of $25,000 for homeless activities and a private contractor paid $50,000 to write grant proposals to the government, implying that the county maintains a surplus in election budgets and disperses funds to such groups. The speakers assert that the county is not cleaning voter rolls, thereby inflating the number of registered voters. They speculate that if there were many such sites—perhaps hundreds—with around 100 voters each, it would be easy to influence elections, noting that Georgia uses voter ID while contrasting with states like California. They also reference the 2020 election, suggesting that in Georgia, the state was won by a narrow margin and that widespread irregularities in Fulton County could have impacted the result. They discuss potential political leanings, claiming that donations and grants to these groups likely go to Democrats, and that the same organizations could be targeting homeless people to register them to vote and to receive government assistance. The presenters visit another church area at 201 Washington Street Southwest, identifying two lines: one for services and one for mail, implying that the church’s outreach program is involved in registering people for voting and distributing mail to many individuals. They reiterate their belief that the operation is funded by state and federal grants and private donations, and they reiterate that the aggregate registrations at two churches total over a thousand. They propose a broader pattern of “targeting” vulnerable populations for political and financial gain, suggesting potential corruption and kickbacks linked to government funds and political support. They conclude with a strong assertion that the described situation constitutes corruption.

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The discussion revolves around the ballot counting process during the election. It highlights that while Democrats were allowed to count ballots after Republicans left, there were claims of ballot stuffing caught on video. The conversation touches on how absentee ballots were collected and the legality of the process, with suggestions that canvassers were paid to gather these ballots. There's speculation about why certain areas were targeted for vote manipulation, emphasizing the need to avoid raising red flags in historically red counties. The participants mention ongoing investigations and evidence from surveillance footage, indicating a belief that irregularities occurred during the election.

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The speaker reveals that zero audits were conducted by Pro VNB, contradicting the Secretary of State's claims. They then highlight that Fulton County counted 20,713 votes that did not exist in the 2020 election, with the majority favoring Joe Biden. The speaker also mentions the absence of records for 10 tabulators, which were included in the election night results. They accuse Brad Raffensperger, Brian Kemp, Fannie Willis, Georgia Democrats, and others of being aware of the election fraud. The speaker asserts that Donald Trump won Georgia and the 2020 election, claiming that the left stole it using tactics like blocking observers and bringing in truckloads of ballots. They emphasize that this evidence was provided to the Trump team.

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The discussion centers around ballot counting issues at the dome during the election. It was claimed that Democrats resumed counting after Republicans left due to reported leak problems. Video evidence allegedly shows Democrats pulling ballots from under tables during this time. There were concerns about ballot stuffing, with claims of individuals collecting absentee ballots and delivering them improperly. The conversation touches on how to manipulate vote counts without raising suspicion, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the appearance of legitimate voting patterns. There are mentions of ongoing investigations and evidence from surveillance footage that could reveal misconduct. The participants express familiarity with certain individuals involved and speculate on the implications of the findings.

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Speaker 0 discusses a transcript of a call from President Trump trying to overturn the election. They play an audio clip where Trump mentions criminal events. Speaker 1 feels threatened by Trump's comments about overseas ballots. Speaker 2 thought Trump believed he won the race but had investigated all allegations.

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The speakers discuss allegations of election interference and illegitimacy in past elections, particularly focusing on the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections. They mention Russian interference, voter suppression, and issues with electronic voting machines. The overall sentiment is that elections have been stolen, leading to concerns about the integrity of the democratic process. The speakers express doubts about the legitimacy of certain election results, such as in Georgia and Ohio, and emphasize the need for fair and transparent elections.

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The speakers in the video discuss various instances where they believe elections were stolen or illegitimate. They mention Russian interference in the 2016 election, voter suppression in Georgia, and issues with electronic voting machines. They express doubts about the fairness and integrity of these elections and call for reforms to ensure a more transparent and secure electoral process. The speakers also mention specific cases such as the 2000 election between Al Gore and George W. Bush and the 2018 gubernatorial race in Georgia between Stacey Abrams and Brian Kemp. They emphasize the need to address these concerns to protect democracy.

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The speakers discuss the numbers related to alleged voter fraud in the 2020 election. They estimate that about 7% of mail-in ballots, which amounts to approximately 4,800,000 votes, were involved in fraudulent activities across states like Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. They claim that this operation is widespread and happening in communities that receive funding from certain foundations. The speakers question who is stopping these fraudulent activities. Overall, they believe that voter fraud was a significant issue in the 2020 election.

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Speaker 0: Jim Jordan played a significant role in Trump's attempt to challenge the election results. Speaker 1: Trump requested a vote recount, which is not the same as overthrowing the government. However, some believe the media's continuous portrayal of this narrative is influenced by project Mockingbird. Regardless, everyone involved is part of it.

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The speaker claims to have won the election but was robbed of the job due to cheating. They believe the election was stolen from the people of Georgia and that thousands of voters had their voices stolen. They refuse to concede because they believe the process was unfair and the result was not true or right. They acknowledge that their opponent won an adequate number of votes but do not consider them the legitimate governor. They still believe their opponent won through voter suppression. The speaker emphasizes that the election was not fair and accuses their opponent of dismantling democracy in Georgia. They do not consider themselves the governor of Georgia.

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Speaker 1 addresses the accusation of stolen elections by MAGA Republicans. Speaker 0 mentions a tweet and the claim that Brian Kemp stole an election. Speaker 1 acknowledges the question and dismisses the comparison as ridiculous. They clarify that they were referring to the threat to voting rights at that time.

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the charges against President Trump in Georgia. Speaker 1 believes that Democrats and unelected bureaucrats are colluding with state DAs and should be held accountable. They express the need to remember these actions and take action when the Republican Party wins the White House in 2024. They also criticize the Department of Justice and the FBI, calling for the removal of communists and abusive judges. Speaker 0 agrees, stating that the justice system is biased and that multiple levels of justice undermine law and order. They thank Speaker 1 and express the desire to hear more updates. The conversation ends with gratitude.

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Trump supporters believe he will win a second term despite losing. Allegations of voter fraud involve paying people to fill out mail-in ballots for Biden. Evidence is being presented in the Supreme Court because the media is not helping.

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The speaker discusses concerns about election fraud in Georgia, highlighting the duplication of 3930 ballots being scanned and counted twice intentionally. They call for accountability from Governor Kemp, former President Trump, the media, and Secretary of State Raffensperger. The speaker demonstrates how the duplication occurred and urges an independent investigation. They emphasize the importance of addressing the issue and providing factual evidence for further examination.

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The speakers in the video discuss their belief that the 2016 and 2020 elections were stolen or illegitimate due to Russian interference, voter suppression, and issues with electronic voting machines. They express concerns about the integrity of the election process and question the legitimacy of the elected officials. They also mention specific instances such as the 2000 election and the Georgia gubernatorial race. Overall, they argue that the elections were not fair and call for reforms to ensure a more transparent and accurate voting system.

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The speakers discuss concerns about election legitimacy, mentioning Russian interference, Al Gore's loss in 2000, and issues with electronic voting machines. They express doubts about the fairness of various elections, including Stacey Abrams' loss in Georgia. The overall sentiment is that elections have been stolen through voter suppression and flawed processes.

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Multiple speakers express concerns about the legitimacy of elections, focusing on the 2016, 2000, 2004, and 2018 elections. Several speakers claim that Russian interference affected the outcome of the 2016 election, leading them to view Trump as an illegitimate president. Some believe Trump is aware of this illegitimacy. The 2000 Bush v. Gore election is cited as an example of a court-appointed president, with claims that Al Gore won Florida but the Supreme Court halted the vote count. The 2004 election in Ohio is described as riddled with problems, including malfunctioning machines and allegations of voting rights violations. Some believe John Kerry privately thought the election was stolen. The 2018 Georgia gubernatorial election is also disputed, with accusations that Brian Kemp, then Secretary of State, suppressed votes and disenfranchised voters, leading to Stacey Abrams' loss. Speakers assert the election was not fair and that Abrams likely won. Concerns are raised about the integrity of electronic voting machines and the lack of paper trails.

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The speakers discuss their upcoming federal court hearing in Atlanta, Georgia regarding a lawsuit involving the movie "2000 and Mules." They claim to have evidence that the Georgia election was stolen and that 67,000 ineligible voters cast their ballots. They criticize Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger for not cleaning the voter rolls and accuse him of lying to President Trump. They also mention the involvement of Stacey Abrams and Mark Elias in the lawsuit. The speakers emphasize the importance of accurate voter rolls and provide a link to access more information on the timeline and documents related to the case.

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Speaker 0: I won, but they cheated. We were robbed of an election. Speaker 1: I don't think it's dangerous to use words like rigged and steal because we can back it up. Speaker 0: The election was stolen from the voters, not just from me. I won't concede because our democracy is being eroded. Speaker 1: The election was not free and fair. Thousands of Georgians had their voices stolen. We can't guarantee their votes will be counted in 2020. Speaker 2: Should the Democratic nominee concede if they can prove widespread voter suppression? Speaker 1: No, we shouldn't concede until we know the results. If it looks like cheating or rigging, it probably is. Speaker 0: We've been taught to accept defeat, but I refuse to concede. The process was not fair. Speaker 1: The election was stolen from Georgia voters. As long as eligible citizens can't vote, the system is rigged. I didn't lose, I just didn't win. Speaker 0: I didn't win officially. We don't know what really happened because of voter suppression. Speaker 1: He is the legal governor, but that doesn't mean he won legitimately. Speaker 0: Just because you win doesn't mean you won. We'll never know for sure if I got more votes. Speaker 1: I refuse to concede because it wasn't fair or right. He performed poorly and crassly against the people he represents. Speaker 1: Georgia voters were suppressed, their votes weren't counted. Brian Kemp dismantled our democracy. Speaker 0: I recognize I'm not the governor, but we won.

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The speaker discusses the issues with the election in Fulton County, Georgia. They mention that there were discrepancies in the ballot count and that the Secretary of State's office tried to cover it up. They also mention ongoing investigations into the matter. The speaker questions how former President Donald Trump can be facing charges in Fulton County when there are clear problems with the election. They express the need for transparency and suggest that there may be upcoming revelations that will expose the truth about the election. The speaker directs listeners to visit joehoff.com for more information.

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Trump Says TAKE OVER Elections Ahead Of Midterms
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In this episode, the hosts discuss former President Trump's statements that Republicans should take over voting in multiple places and even nationalize the process. They frame his remarks as part of a pattern of claims about illegal ballots and crooked vote counting, noting references to Georgia and Fulton County where ballots were seized in a high‑profile investigation. The conversation also covers Tulsi Gabbard's involvement as a former DNI figure and a letter from Pam Bondi pressuring Minnesota over voter rolls, alongside Department of Justice actions challenging state rolls. They connect these events to Trump’s recent doubts about the Republican party’s midterm prospects and to past efforts to overturn the 2020 result. The segment emphasizes concerns about how such rhetoric and activity could affect election administration, governance, and the integrity of future elections.
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