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Speaker highlights clips with a red circle, saying, "holy shit, that is the bullet. It matches the exit wound, it also matches the shirt puffing up and the angle of the entry and exit." He adds, "in that video you can see the same what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself," and, "you can see something go down into the back right hand side of, of Charlie." Using Google Earth, he states, "his tent being set up in the middle of that triangle area would appear that the shooter was up here somewhere. That's the angle that the bullet was coming down from." "It all makes sense to me, pretty crazy." He argues location: "rooftop access there but there's also a staircase down in the little alley there in that little nook so it's to me, it's pretty obvious that the shooter was was most likely, here somewhere." "Somewhere on those stairs would be my tip, and if the FBI aren't looking there, I don't know why."

We just got some new footage in of the accused Charlie Kirk shooter. This is him right here at a gas station in Cedar City, Utah, and you could see he's filling up his tank. You can see the date in question there is September 11. That is the day after Charlie Kirk was shot and killed. The officers were asked to check whether a suspect in an ongoing case had disposed of evidence in a trash can at that location. Here he is getting some gas at the gas station. He fills up pretty quickly, gets back in the car and drives away. At no time did he approach or use any trash cans.

According to the FBI, Tyler was positioned here and took the shot. The video they provided to us, and it's edited. It starts as Tyler's running off the roof, but this is that rooftop vent; had they given us the full video, we should have been able to see Tyler in this area with his back or with his backpack and his gear and assembling, disassembling the gun, whatever the FBI is saying. But instead, we get the video of him running off the roof. We don't get the full video. The camera was positioned somewhere right here. This is the field of view of the camera. So we've got an edited version, and I think we need to push to get the whole version.

- "nobody's come forward with any pictures of the Dodge Challenger leading me to believe there is no Dodge Challenger." - "Maybe it's Tyler." - "Isn't this the famous intersection? No? Is there a back pathway that way?" - "Or does he turn here at this intersection at the LDS Mormon church, which means he would be on the LDS Mormon Church cameras, security cameras." - "Private property they say." - "This to me seems like something that I might have seen in a video or two where the cameras are removed and the FBI confiscates the cameras." - "Why did they do that? Why didn't they just publish all the video from the whole day?" - "There it is. There's the camera. I'm giving the camera a big salute, and you keep going that direction."

"And just last night, the suspect was taken into custody at 10PM local time in less than thirty six hours, 30 three to be precise." "For thirty three hours, I was I was praying that that if this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be one of us." "This thing is not commercial at all. It is most likely a surveillance drone and someone was flying it over the campus for a particular reason." "The main suspect in Kirk's killing is now Tyler Robinson and he is in custody." "This translates to approximately one in 2,000,000,000." "The FBI agents didn't even bother to show him the photos of the shooter for twelve hours." "Yes. Yes. So when he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on," "Look folks, it's very easy to just believe whatever we're being told, but we cannot afford to do that anymore."

"Robinson drives past that house. Allegedly, that's his challenger at 08:23. At 08:29, he arrives at this university." "There was no handgun. There was no master plan." "This guy thought all of this through." "there's no security footage of him actually climbing up onto the roof." "And if that didn't work, was just gonna pack up my bags and go home." "You would have had to have known that there weren't gonna be any bushes, that they weren't gonna set up any fucking mounts, any photos, any banners, anything up here." "Charlie speaking at twelve." "That little dinky setup with that pop up thing, that type of setup, we could have set that up in, an hour."

"It's not my driveway. It's my aunt's driveway." "I parked there probably ten minutes before he walked by." "I had not seen this footage till just now." "This is his Ring camera." "the killer walked down that street nineteen minutes after you were there." "I believe it was 02:30 local time." "We got there probably about 01:45." "National Guard was going up and down the street." "there's maybe another suspect." "no information to suggest there's another suspect." "the first two that they arrested were released." "So I'm not suggesting there were two. I'm suggesting that the one that we thought was the one they had in custody was then released, and then the second one was released." "FBI was swarming that street when you went back to this location two hours later."

"This is so much so." "Before we had a flag and we had" "it so it's positioned above the tent so it'd be in" "the camera made us move. What was that?" "Just a so much so." "It's too crowded." "It's just there's just so much." "As you can see, this new trajectory places a shooter on the roof of the Sorenson Center, and the shot would come at a much steeper down angle and a much larger angle off of the perpendicular, such that a bullet entering Charlie's neck would hit his spine and glance downward into his chest cavity, killing him instantly."

"Okay. George Webb here. Again, UVU. Okay. And just just showing you the final part of the pathway here to get on the other side here." "You to get on the other side of campus here, You gotta go down here, and this is where he's gonna get a camera hit here." "Again, no Dodge Challenger anywhere to be found, and he's gonna get a hit right here on that camera right there." "I'm gonna hit right there, and he's gonna walk through here." "He's gonna go right up these stairs, these famous stairs now. These are the John Wilkes Booth stairs now." "Gotta get a hit on that camera right there." "Not this way." "I hit a lot of cameras here, but that was him." "Right? To get as high as possible, not going through the school before hit another camera."

That's cop. That's cop. That's cop. That's cop. "Cops are moving in right now." I'm sitting here in the corner watching. "This isn't shift change either, folks." "That happens at 06:00 in the morning and 06:00 at night, but we got all these unmarked here moving in." "We need to call Katie." "It's just about a dozen cops rolled up the road just now towards Edgewood or sorry, towards the farm." "There was a white truck that went in with a bunch of black cases." "This black SUV at the corner there, they just went back in." "And a huge tripod that they seem to be assembling who knows what." "Oh, boy, folks. Okay. I got some work to do, man. I think we gotta get ready."

Speaker 0 describes Skyler as having given about four different interviews online right after the Charlie Kirk assassination. She notes he is seen with glasses on top of his head, front row at the scene, and somehow sits on the Main Floor at the Charlie Kirk Memorial during the memorial service. She asks, “Who is this guy? How is this possible? And why are his interviews so odd?” She points out that on the day of the shooting Skyler was in the front row and near a bodyguard. Speaker 1 and Speaker 2 recount Skyler’s position: “Maybe 10 or 15 feet away when it happened. Close as he could.” They describe Skyler with sunglasses on his head, and a Charlie Kirk bodyguard in front of him, with Skyler off to the side in the corner when Charlie began taking questions. They note the bodyguard is directly in front of Charlie, Skyler to the side, matching Skyler’s own account of being “front row, Noel in front of him,” with a bodyguard to his left and one in front of him. They say Skyler was “front row and center.” Speaker 0 then says Skyler later appeared sitting on the Main Floor at the Charlie Kirk Memorial, with a floor pass for a press conference, literally “maybe 10 or so rows from the front of the stage.” They claim this is documented on Skyler’s Facebook page. They mention Skyler’s Facebook shows two, perhaps “two point, I think, k” followings, with from 2018 to 02/2025 only about seven posts and about 10 pictures, implying a sparse content profile for a “digital creator.” Speaker 3 describes Skyler’s earlier claim about getting into the stadium: “Just made it to the stadium. There is an unlimited amount of security, Secret service, military, police, empty. Steel barricades all around. … There’s been people waiting in line since 05:30 in the morning.” He says Skyler went past multiple security layers to obtain a media badge and a floor pass, and then ended up on the Main Floor “a few rows back to the Charlie Kirk Memorial.” The speakers question how he could gain access and yet appear to be late, then have a media pass and seating positions. Speaker 4 adds, “So, again, why go into detail acting as if you were late, you didn’t even know you were gonna get in, yet somehow you end up with a passing all these checkpoints to get a media pass around your deck, end up on the First, you know, Main Floor just a few rows back to the Charlie Kirk Memorial that day. It’s just like it’s a big act, a big show that this guy's putting on. It’s like he was handpicked to do all these interviews. He was handpicked to have front row that day because he was up, you know, farther up in the crowd before Charlie got there.” Speaker 4 closes with a segment featuring a clip of another person describing a mythic, imagery-laden interpretation: “An indecision night. I photoshopped in my mind. I photoshopped the blood away. I photoshopped Charlie, sat him back up, put his smile back on, and rewound the tape… I rewound the bullet going back up into the rifle. I stuck a flower inside the rifle.”

Let's see what are they doing because I see a lot of construction smoke going on. Oh, no. They are constructing they are taking out the whole platform where he was sitting, and they are constructing a new one as you could see. So that's what is happening right now. And guess what? The killer was there at there, and there was a video taken from here. And that's where you see a killer running behind in the background. And I was, like, right here when it happened. So this is what is happening right now. I think oh, as you could see, my boss is still there. They are taking the things inside, so I'm gonna go inside and see.

The speaker says they tracked down internal Utah Valley University documents showing the roof access point and the cameras. They cite the telecommunication distribution guide of 06/01/2022, noting updates and new cameras in specific areas. They discuss campus camera counts: "anytime a university has roughly over 30,000 students, you're looking at at least over 15, if not 1,800 cameras." Utah Valley has 45,000 students, so they say, "you would think that you would have roughly over 2,000," though "Grock" estimates 500 to 700. At the Watchatch campus, the document states: "A complete video surveillance system shall be provided... Cameras shall be fixed with ten eighty p HD IP cameras" with meeting date "08/06/2024." The speaker asks, "What is the FBI hiding?" and notes, "They have ten eighty p HD cameras that were surveilling this man" and, "If this is the guy... we should 100% have video surveillance of the man leaving the roof." This is their own internal document showing the roof access point and how the cameras were mounted at the university where Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

This footage proved very difficult to track down. Aaron also has a Chicago number. Neither of them are students of UVU. One of them said he was a student at BYU, which is Brigham Young University. The metadata begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot. I watched him sprint back after taking the shot. I saw this with my own two eyes. the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw. the assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine only expecting to shoot once or twice.

There were multiple improbable factors that would have had to align for these bombs to be discovered at the same time on a sidewalk, prompting questions about a broader conspiracy and how such a scenario could unfold. The speakers emphasize that while they want to avoid a conspiracy path, there are many questions still open, including the handling of video footage. Regarding video records, one speaker notes that they want to review January 6 video to see if anyone returned to the locations, but that video apparently does not exist anymore. They do have January 5 video, but have been told that no one preserved January 6. This raises eyebrows as they consider whether the devices were placed by an inexperienced person who was trying to set them down quickly or whether the devices were left to be found. Mrs. Younger’s account is highlighted: she walked out her back door and did not see anything earlier in the morning, but saw the devices later, which would give a reason to believe she would have noticed them if they had been there in the morning. This observation is part of why they want to talk to her. One speaker is blown away by a point: according to the FBI, the FBI’s internal data indicate 39,000 videos showing the hoodie-clad pipe bomber—referred to as the C. Virkel bomber—movements that night, from various camera angles. Washington, DC, Capitol Hill is described as among the most surveilled areas in the world. Yet there is a claim that there is no footage from January 6 of the actual areas a person would have had to travel to place the pipe bombs. The other speaker confirms that there are cameras along some Capitol Police lines that show walking paths, including footage from Capitol Police cameras, but the angles that would show positions behind the RNC and behind the DNC do not exist today, at least not in a way that captures the relevant movements. This absence has limited the investigation into the theory that the devices could have been placed earlier and then moved or re-placed. They are now going back through Capitol Police footage, including from the Fairchild Building near the DNC, which has provided the most evidence so far. The team is reviewing hours from about 8 PM on May 5 to 1 PM on January 6 to determine whether anyone else passed by, whether there was any suspicious activity, and whether the devices were moved again. The investigators are evaluating step-by-step explanations for these anomalies, considering whether the Secret Service dog failed to detect one device or whether Mrs. Younger missed the other, whether the devices were not present at that time, or whether weather and other factors affected detections. They acknowledge that with so many circumstances, some “smoke” might indicate “fire.” They hope the FBI is reviewing cell phone data to determine if the suspected bomber returned or if a co-conspirator was involved in setting timers or re-placing devices. The transcript ends with an acknowledgment of ongoing investigation scope and questions.

The discussion centers on forensic cell phone tracking and geofencing data, the same methods that were used to track individuals in January 6 cases, including whether someone went onto the steps, onto the lawn, or exactly where they were. The speakers indicate that investigators can determine an individual’s precise movements and locations through cell phone data. The key point is that in this case, it will become clear whether Tyler Robinson was in the Orem area, and whether the text messages that have raised questions—whether those messages were sent from Orem to Lance Twigg—place Lance Twigg in Southern Utah or also in Orem. The main outcome anticipated is clarity about Robinson’s location, but importantly, the discussion emphasizes the ability to reconstruct movements and associations from cell phone data. The speakers note that people are asking how Robinson could have known about certain details based on terrain, given that he was not a student at the school, and they argue that Google Maps alone would not explain this. They assert that the path of his cell phone—whether he went the day before or weeks before—will be accessible, allowing investigators to track his movements comprehensively. A forensic expert, Joseph Scott Morgan, is cited as saying they would be able to trace his movement from 8 Hundredth Street, down through a tunnel, around the Losey Building, up the stairs, onto the roof, from the roof out to the roofline, where the shot was taken, and then to him running into the woods. The conversation also references conspiracy videos claiming to see him on a cafe’s security system—claiming his car is visible—arguing that this is not necessarily inconsistent with a murderer’s behavior, since a killer could be in a car while amped up on adrenaline. The speakers explain that the cafe owner could only review such surveillance if the FBI tracked him to that location; they discuss how geolocation and surveillance data would be used to corroborate movements, including how, the next morning at 7:15 AM, at a Cedar City Maverick gas station, he swipes a credit card and the authorities follow his phone, tracking when he goes home, whether he visits Lance, and when he visits his parents, with a full trail of calls, texts, and movements. The forensic expert, Joseph Scott Morgan, emphasizes that aside from the gun, the cell phone data will be the key element tying Tyler Robinson directly to the person on the building, and that geotracking will reveal where his phone was at all times on that day, addressing doubts about the FBI’s methods and reliability.

Stephen Gardner and Jack Buzovic argue that the smoking gun will be the geolocation data next to the DNA evidence on the rifle. They say, essentially, you steal my car and commit a crime, you’ll likely find my DNA in the vehicle and on the trigger, so now we’re going to trust some expert to provide magical geolocation data. They question how Tyler Robinson could be involved and suggest this should be a single, big government conspiracy if he didn’t actually take the shot. They insist CCTV video would show Tyler Robinson moving through the parking garage, onto the roof, and through various locations, and that the investigation should not avoid showing the video. They ask how a juror would be convinced without video footage when there are twenty different videos, and whether geolocation data could hurt the case when a murder has been committed. They complain about having to trust another expert and mention past high-profile investigations. They demand to see CCTV video showing Tyler Robinson walking across the campus, onto the roof, getting into his car, running through neighborhoods, because all that has been presented is “slop.” Ryan Mehta introduces this segment as a critique of the presented evidence. Speaker 1 (questioning the forensic approach) asks about cell phone tracking and geofencing data, noting that the same method was used in January 6 to determine who was on the steps or on the lawn. They ask what was found regarding that data in this case. Speaker 2 responds that the case will reveal with great clarity whether Tyler Robinson was in the Orem area and whether the texts that many have questions about were sent from Orem to Lance Twigg, and whether Lance Twigg was in Southern Utah or in Orem. The main point is that people are asking how he could have known given the terrain and that Google Maps could not have allowed planning of the murder. They say the data will show paths, including whether he went the day before or weeks before, and will track all of that. Joseph Scott Morgan told them they would be able to track him from 8 Hundredth Street down through the tunnel, up around the Losey Building, up the stairs, onto the roof, from the roof out to the roofline, take the shot, jump off the Losey Building, run into the woods. They mention conspiracy videos claiming he was spotted at a cafe on security footage; some claimed the cafe owner saw him on security cameras, while others claimed it wasn’t consistent with a murderer’s behavior. They argue the FBI tracked him to that location, and that the next morning at 07:15 AM, a Cedar City Maverick gas station records his credit card use and follows his phone, his movements home, visits to Lance, and visits to his parents, with all phone calls, texts, and other data available. The forensic expert, Joseph Scott Morgan, asserts that next to the gun, the cell phone data will be the thing that ties Tyler Robinson directly to the person on that building, and there is doubt among some about trusting the FBI. The discussion ends with the assertion that geotracking will provide the crucial link.

Let's see what are they doing because I see a lot of construction smoke going on. Oh, no. They are constructing they are taking out the whole platform where he was sitting, and they are constructing a new one as you could see. So that's what the change is. And guess what? The killer was there at there, and there was a video taken from here. And that's where you see a killer running behind in the background. And I was, like, right here when it happened. So this is what is happening right now. I think oh, as you could see, my boss is still there. They are taking the things inside, so I'm gonna go inside and see.

"the time stamp is 12:44. Charlie Kirk was shot at 12:23." "So roughly about twenty minutes after that, he pulls in here, sits in the car park for a bit, and then drives out and then drives out of the car park and towards UVU." "This white car was parked up front closer to the camera as as we can see, and we can play this again." "the officer apparently did not have his body cam footage on." "Prosecution has a weak spot because that the messages, the the trans boyfriend messages, they don't have time stamps." "the gun that they showed initially, the picture New York Post published this. FBI never published a gun before that, right?" "This is not even the rifle." "composite stock on it." "There is enough camera footage now, somebody was telling me, and enough to for them to do, like, a ballistic sound. Acoustic forensics." "it sounds like a muffled, not like a 30 out six." "weak reload." "double DHT." "they're tainting the jury pool basically."

- "I just tracked down the internal documents from Utah Valley University that shows the exact type of security cameras that were used, and we got a lot of questions." - "This is their own internal document showing us the roof access point and exactly how the cameras were mounted at the university where Charlie Kirk was assassinated." - "The Utah Valley University telecommunication distribution guide of 06/01/2022." - "A complete video surveillance system shall be provided." - "Cameras shall be fixed with ten eighty p HD IP cameras, and this is attached to a meeting date of 08/06/2024." - "There are ten eighty p HD cameras that were surveilling this man on probably multiple different locations throughout that campus."

I just tracked down the internal documents from Utah Valley University that shows the exact type of security cameras that were used, and we got a lot of questions. This is their own internal document showing us the roof access point and exactly how the cameras were mounted at the university where Charlie Kirk was assassinated. The Utah Valley University telecommunication distribution guide of 06/01/2022. Cameras shall be fixed with ten eighty p HD IP cameras, and this is attached to a meeting date of 08/06/2024. They have ten eighty p HD cameras that were surveilling this man on probably multiple different locations throughout that campus. So if this is the guy that they claim was on the roof, then we should 100% have video surveillance of the man leaving the roof.

"Pacing back and forth. Sent it to the FBI and said, if there's an accomplice you know." "the camera from here to here took way too long." "If you time how long it took him to get from that little part over to here, was way longer than it should have been." "So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff." "Sam's across the street, he was right here." "The gun was dumped up here?" "Our sacred hill." "This is where we sled every year." "There's the hut that all of you guys would build." "Grandpa would buy extra nails every year." "I saw Erwin on TV as well. They interviewed Erwin out front." "And that's the tunnel where they released the photos of him entering because you can't cross the street anymore than the that underground tunnel. You see that handrail right there? Uh-huh. That's the photo they had of him going down tunnel."

Robinson drives past that house. Allegedly, that's his challenger at 08:23. At 08:29, he arrives at this university. No handgun. No master plan. This guy thought all of this through. There's no security footage of him actually climbing up onto the roof. and if that didn't work, was just gonna pack up my bags and go home. Was it always set up the night before? Did the Turning Point team has anybody spoken with anybody at the team that was at that event? That campus would have been full. My DMs are open. there might be a $10,000 bounty for any students that have any new video evidence that we haven't seen that actually leads to something. Let me know what you guys think. So we're gonna keep hitting this, and let me know what you guys think.

So after the shooting, she was there. They're saying he ran across the, roof there, jumped off right about there, and then he ran and walked. And this is about where he crossed the road. This was the same point from where he worked where he walked across the street. So he could have either gone in there and gone into the woods or walk this way behind those trees. And then just just over here, there's an opening. Gateway open. And that is right about here. And then from there, he walked this way, ran. I discovered some stairs. The stairs go down, which puts us into that field. The camera was here facing this way, and he was walking down this way. He went across, down, and that's as far as we get. But I think he probably parked over here at the Utah County, the county of Science.

"So we're supposed to believe that some random trans shooter was on the roof, took this shot, runs across into the rooftop, jumps down, somehow magically being undetected because the FBI releases a a video footage." "Was this when he was walking into the building, the then he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior, and he somehow managed to walk back in the second time without the weapon." "And then because if he left with a weapon and hid it in the woods, then why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving?" "Didn't we watch criminal minds as a kid? Like, they have this super advanced software where they upload the image, and then the FBI just does their like, where's the BAU at and shit?" "Face recognition software. Match on the nose, ears, Boom. There he is."