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Speaker highlights clips with a red circle, saying, "holy shit, that is the bullet. It matches the exit wound, it also matches the shirt puffing up and the angle of the entry and exit." He adds, "in that video you can see the same what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself," and, "you can see something go down into the back right hand side of, of Charlie." Using Google Earth, he states, "his tent being set up in the middle of that triangle area would appear that the shooter was up here somewhere. That's the angle that the bullet was coming down from." "It all makes sense to me, pretty crazy." He argues location: "rooftop access there but there's also a staircase down in the little alley there in that little nook so it's to me, it's pretty obvious that the shooter was was most likely, here somewhere." "Somewhere on those stairs would be my tip, and if the FBI aren't looking there, I don't know why."

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the tactical sequence surrounding a man who approached a roof and the purported loophole used to take a shot. They note a distinction between “a guy walking up and getting on a roof” and “getting on a roof” in a way that suggests exploiting a loophole. They describe a tactic of banging a hole through one side, stepping back, and shooting through that hole, creating an opportunity they characterize as a loophole. They ask for a quick description of that loophole again. They reference a site: the Lucy Center behind the Sorensen Center, and explain that from their position they cannot see that area because it is not their area of responsibility; their focus is threats directly in front of them. They estimate about 3,000 threats in front of them, with a larger backdrop described as “an 18,000 foot mountain” in front and a “36,000 foot mountain” behind, suggesting limited visibility of the broader area. They note that if the shooter had stopped slightly to the right, the Sorensen Center would have been in the way and would block the view. Speaker 1 emphasizes that it is a very specific point, not just climbing onto the roof to gain a vantage point. Speaker 0 suggests there was “blind luck” involved—no crawling, no secondary shooter stuck in the weeds; instead a “boom on, boom run to, boom take the shot.” They ask whether the event had to have been rehearsed, and Speaker 1 indicates the vantage point was roughly seven feet high, a small area that would require search for that vantage point if one didn’t know where to look. They discuss the possibility of footage existing to show how the shooter reached the point or whether he searched for it. Speaker 0 suggests that a drone could have provided footage, lamenting its absence, and jokes about wanting to deploy a drone to examine the scene. They frame these as tactical questions: their team drills include rapid movement—running 300 yards, jumping a wall, taking a shot—with an example of a 35-foot declination at 200 yards. They acknowledge that even trained shooters sometimes miss under duress, noting it’s not merely the shot itself but the broader conditions. They also compare the current shooter to “old men that shoot stuff on sandbags,” underscoring the pressure of real-world conditions.

"how did this guy know to move to that exact location?" "There was also a man that was arrested in a parking lot with an airsoft rifle." "that crazy guy screaming that he was basically a distraction?" "the best way to tell a difference between people is to look at their ear." "the ear does not is a bit different to the one we've seen of of photos of Tyler, old photos Tyler." "it's not obvious, but we don't have any positive proof here that there is a rifle in this video at all." "how did he get a rifle up on the roof?" "it's not a takedown model." "the bulge in his pocket" "12:23:34" "potato cam footage" "I didn't shoot him, I didn't do anything, I swear guys." "rifle was pre positioned at some period in time, and that he then was able to pick it off the property, and because he knew he couldn't walk all the way across, and then stash it like that as he was moving into position finally." "there's so many different people that are talking about this and it hasn't died yet." "a Twitter post the day before and ended up sharing it, the same day within hours of when Charlie Kirk got shot, that said he was attending school there, he said something very big was gonna happen the next day"

Timeline assembled from media outlets traces events around the campus shooting. At 08:23AM a gray Dodge Challenger is seen near campus; 08:29 Robinson arrives on campus wearing a maroon T shirt, light shorts, black hat; by 09:57 he’s seen walking back through a nearby neighborhood. By 11:49 he’s described as hobbling toward the university in dark clothing with a distinctive limp; 11:52 he arrives on campus and moves toward the Luce Center. At 12:15 he retrieves the rifle, a Maser model 98, 30 odd six bolt action with a scope from a drop point in a bush and engraves the bullet casings with meme style messages; changes into dark clothes on the roof. 12:33 he fires a single shot from the roof, striking Kirk; 12:39 police and FBI secure the scene. A manhunt begins with over 7,000 leads, growing to 11,000 by September 12; Discord messages referenced.

Speaker 0: "We still have, basically confirmation he got shot. ... immediate incapacitation." He asserts "the FBI is lying" and that "it's quite literally not possible for the shooter to have been on the roof that they claim he is along with other inconsistencies across the board." Speaker 1: "Keep your eye on this space here... the bullet matches the exit wound, ... the shirt puffing up and the angle of the entry and exit." He adds: "the same what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself." From Google Earth, "the shooter was up here somewhere, that's the angle that the bullet was coming down from." "the shooter was most likely here somewhere." "Somewhere on those stairs would be my tip, and if the FBI aren't looking there, I don't know why."

According to the FBI, Tyler was positioned here and took the shot. The video they provided to us, and it's edited. It starts as Tyler's running off the roof, but this is that rooftop vent; had they given us the full video, we should have been able to see Tyler in this area with his back or with his backpack and his gear and assembling, disassembling the gun, whatever the FBI is saying. But instead, we get the video of him running off the roof. We don't get the full video. The camera was positioned somewhere right here. This is the field of view of the camera. So we've got an edited version, and I think we need to push to get the whole version.

Speaker 0 says they spent the night compiling a timeline from every media outlet to show what the media is telling us and what evidence supports that. Key points: 08:23 sighting of a gray Dodge Challenger; 08:29 Robinson arrives at the university campus; 11:49 gait described as restricted; 11:52 on campus toward the Luce Center; 12:15 rifle drop wrapped in a towel, casings engraved; 12:33 shot fired at Charlie Kirk; 12:39 FBI arrives. Reward announced at 10:45; manhunt with 7,000 leads, 11,000 by Sept 12. Discord messages referenced; "limp no longer visible, suggesting that it was faked or a disguise." The speaker alleges Turning Point employees tampered with a crime scene and asks why CCTV footage hasn't been released, inviting viewers to audit the footage.

- "Charlie Kirk wearing a bulletproof vest." - "I have from a confirmed source." - "Carly Carly Trik arrived. He was hit in the chest, which is what we saw right here." - "The bullet ricocheted up and went into the neck." - "There was no side shooter, guys." - "The main shooter came from the front, and I don't think it was that Tyler dude." - "I think that Tyler dude is a patsy." - "So first, he drives and drops this gun off in the woods." - "Then he drives and parks his car on campus." - "Then he walks back to the woods to get the gun, then he puts the gun in his pants." - "Then he walks to campus, climbs on the roof, changes his outfit, then takes the shot." - "Then he jumps off the roof with a 24 inch barrel secured to his leg." - "I think there is somebody much farther back than that." - "Some people are saying he made ninety minutes." - "Definitely didn't feel a thing." - "This is what we call slop."

Speaker 0 introduced the topic of cell phone tracking and forensic geofencing data, noting that the same tracking methods used in January 6 were capable of determining whether someone went onto the steps or onto the lawn, and where they were exactly. The question was what findings exist regarding this data in the current case. Speaker 1 answered that the investigation will reveal with great clarity whether Tyler Robinson was in the Orem area, whether the text messages involving many questions were sent from Orem to Lance Twigg, and whether Lance Twigg was in Southern Utah or also in Orem. The main point is addressing how he could have known certain details based on terrain, given that he was not a student at the school. It is stated that it would be unlikely to have planned a murder from Google Maps, and that the authorities will determine this from the cell phone pathway—whether he went the day before or weeks before, and tracking all of that. Speaker 1 relayed information from forensic expert Joseph Scott Morgan, who claimed they would be able to track Tyler Robinson from 8 Hundredth Street through a tunnel, around the Losey Building, up the stairs to the roof, from the roof to the roofline, take the shot, jump off the Losey Building, and run into the woods. The speaker also mentioned conspiracy videos suggesting he was seen on a café security system; although the footage is limited, it exists, and some claim the FBI tracked him to that location. The next morning, at 7:15 AM, at a Cedar City Maverick gas station, it is claimed he swiped a credit card, and the phone was followed to his home, to visits with Lance, and to his parents. All calls, texts, and other phone activity are said to be known. Speaker 1 summarized that the forensic expert states that next to the gun, the cell phone data will be the element that ties Tyler Robinson directly to the person on the building, and that geotracking will reveal where his phone was at all times on that day. The response also notes skepticism about trust in the FBI, but emphasizes that geotracking will demonstrate the phone’s location during the day in question.

Speaker cites a "confirmed source" and says, "This is a message that I was sent on x" and that "his friend's dad is a surgeon at the hospital" while noting "Carly Carly Trik arrived." He states, "Charlie Kirk wearing a bulletproof vest" and that "he was hit in the chest, which is what we saw right here. It caved in part of his chest. The bullet ricocheted up and went into the neck." He adds, "There was no side shooter, guys. The main shooter we're looking at came from the front," and, "I don't think it was that Tyler dude... I think that Tyler dude is a patsy." He recounts an FBI timeline: "First, he drives and drops this gun off in the woods... then he drives and parks his car on campus... climbs on the roof, changes his outfit, then takes the shot..." He questions, "Why wouldn't he have done that in the first place?" He also asserts, "when you cut your finger... you put it above your heart, it stops bleeding," and that "the neck is above elevated above his heart" as "they carried that body to the hospital." He concludes, "the dude on the roof is a patsy."

Stephen Gardner argues that the smoking gun will be the geolocation data next to the DNA evidence on the rifle, asserting that DNA would be on the trigger, but geolocation is needed to implicate Tyler Robinson. He questions relying on geolocation data when video evidence exists, noting CCTV footage should show Tyler Robinson’s movements: entering the parking lot, walking through the garage, onto the roof, under the bridge, into the Losey Building, and more. He criticizes the need for experts and geolocation, saying that if Kesh Patel picked up a screwdriver at the crime scene, it would not necessarily hurt the case, and questions how geolocation could be the smoking gun after a murder broadcast on live TV. He adds a personal jab about growing up in a trailer and dismisses experts, contrasting with the video footage that he believes should be sufficient. Ryan Mehta introduces the discussion about cell phone tracking and forensic geofencing data, comparing it to methods used in January 6 to determine people’s exact locations on the steps or lawn. He asks what will be found in this case regarding Tyler Robinson and the text messages between him and Lance Twigg, questioning whether Twigg was in Southern Utah or in Orem. He states that investigators could determine if Tyler Robinson was in the Orem area and track whether the messages were sent from Orem. The main point, according to him, is that the forensic data would reveal whether Tyler Robinson knew terrain details not associated with a student at the school, and whether the murder could have been planned from Google Maps. Speaker Joe Scott Morgan, cited by Mehta, notes that they will be able to track Tyler Robinson’s movements from eight hundredth Street through tunnels, around the Losey Building, up stairs to the roof, from the roof to the edge, the shot, then the escape into the woods, and mentions conspiracy videos claiming he was seen on a cafe’s security system. Mehta mentions conspiracy theories about how he could kill Charlie Kirk and be in his car twenty minutes later, arguing that a murderer’s behavior could vary. He claims the FBI tracked him to a location after the crime, identifying him at Cedar City Maverick gas station at 07:15 AM, noting card swipes and phone activity to show home visits, interactions with Lance, and visits to his parents. The belief is that phone calls, texting, and other data would tie Tyler Robinson directly to the person on the building, addressing doubts about trusting the FBI and the role of geotracking as the potential smoking gun.

Speaker 0 says the person shows back up in his neighborhood after the shooting. It shows him in a field, because they believe he probably popped up over there, came up the hill from where they feel the gun was dropped. He ran up there, over the hill, and then ran down that dirt path, and that’s where they see...

Timeline begins 08:23 with a gray Dodge Challenger seen at campus; 08:29 Robinson arrives at the university, parks in the entrance area, and is captured on surveillance in a maroon T shirt, light shorts, and a black hat. By 09:57 he’s seen again in the same outfit. At 11:49 he’s described as hobbling in dark clothing, allegedly per Discord messages, and arrives on campus at 11:52. At 12:15, ‘Robinson retrieves the rifle, a Maser model 98, 30 odd six bolt action with a scope from a drop point in a bush, wrapped in a dark towel,’ and engraves the casings with memes. He changes into dark clothes on the roof and fires at Charlie Kirk at 12:33, then flees. FBI arrives 12:39; Turning Point employees are accused of crime-scene tampering; a manhunt follows, and Robinson is detained September 11. The speaker notes CCTV gaps and Discord communications and urges research.

"holy shit, that is the bullet." "It matches the exit wound, it also matches the shirt puffing up and the angle of the entry and exit." "I needed another angle just to see if this was actually fact trying to get as much info as I could before I posted anything" "from this looking at Google Earth and drawing a line from where I believe the shooter was, his tent being set up in the middle of that triangle area would appear that the shooter was up here somewhere." "That's the angle that the bullet was coming down from." "Somewhere on those stairs would be my tip, and if the FBI aren't looking there, I don't know why."

An investigator says they compiled a timeline from every media outlet, tracing events from 08:23 when a gray Dodge Challenger was seen near campus to the arrest. The timeline suggests Robinson arrived on campus, performed reconnaissance, changed outfits, and moved through the Luce Center before ambushing Charlie Kirk at 12:33 from the rooftop. He allegedly retrieved a Maser Model 98, 30-06 bolt-action rifle from a drop point, engraved bullet casings with memes, and changed into dark clothing on the roof. After the shooting, he fled the campus, discarded the rifle and casings, and escaped toward Washington County, aided by a disguise using a limp. A large manhunt followed; FBI and US Marshals detained him later. The narrator questions CCTV coverage, possible scene tampering by Turning Point staff, and Discord chatter in the investigation.

Speaker questions the narrative: 'random trans shooter' on the roof who 'took this shot' and was 'undetected' because the FBI released video footage. He asks if this means 'he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior' and wonders 'why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving?' He questions the lack of footage—'why don't we have any images of this kid leaving the school?' and 'video footage of this kid jumping off the roof?' He says, 'he runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' and argues, 'you definitely wouldn't carry the rifle with you' to blend in, citing 'an American flag shirt on.' He references 'criminal minds' and BAU, concluding, 'This is weird, guys. This is freaking weird.'

"The main shooter we're looking at came from the front, and I don't think it was that Tyler dude." "I think that Tyler dude is a patsy." "I'm not buying the stuff that he was a lone shooter on the roof." "So first, he drives and drops this gun off in the woods." "Then he drives and parks his car on campus." "Then he jumps off the roof with a 24 inch barrel somehow secured to his leg." "The videos that they're saying of him carrying that body, you can't see." "I think that dude on the roof is a patsy."

Speaker 0 says they downloaded nearly original footage from the incident and note that reuploads compress the file, referencing “the national file,” and aim to “disprove this or not.” Speaker 1 points to Charlie Kirk: “how many You see him right there? That’s him debating with somebody here right before he gets shot.” “He got shot from his right hand side on that side coming out here.” They discuss a rooftop shooter theory, noting walls, bleachers, and that “you got shot from rooftop.” They show a rooftop trajectory diagram: “count with me… flat surface one, flat surface two, and then flat surface three… almost up on four,” arguing the shooter would have a straight shot at Charlie. They claim “this is 100% the shot” and say “the mic… was the first entry wound” is incorrect; “there is no entry wound on the left side of his neck. He got hit on the right side.” They demand CCTV footage release from Turning Point, noting cameras and a cameraman, and urge campus footage to verify angles, mentioning trees “above the rooftop” and needing to see if the edge of the roof is visible. They conclude the shooter was on the highest point and that multiple cameras likely captured it.

We analyzed the drone's flight path during the rally, confirming it flew for about 11 minutes from approximately 3:50 PM to 4 PM, around 200 yards away from where former President Trump was speaking. This position likely provided the shooter with a view of the area behind the stage, akin to a rearview mirror. While the drone wasn't directly overhead, it could have offered insights into the stage setup and surrounding environment. We are still investigating what the shooter might have seen during this time, hypothesizing that the drone was live streaming. The flight path suggests it was observing the scene from a distance, roughly the length of a football field.

The speaker says they spent the night compiling “this timeline … from every media outlet … so we can understand what the media is telling us and what evidence we have to support that,” noting holes and missing pieces. Key points: 08:23 they see his gray Dodge Challenger driving past a home near the university; 08:29 Robinson arrives at the university campus in his gray Dodge Challenger, parks in the entrance area, and is captured on surveillance wearing “a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts, and a black hat with a white logo and a light colored shoes.” From 08:29 to 10:00, he’s “ghost” on campus for reconnaissance; 09:57 he’s seen walking back in a red maroon shirt; 11:49 he’s dressed in dark clothing, hobbling toward the campus; 11:52 he arrives on campus, moves through stairwells toward the Luce Center; 12:15 retrieves the rifle, a Maser model 98, 30 odd six bolt action with a scope from a drop point in a bush, and engraves the bullet casings with meme style messages: “fired casings, notice bulges, o w o, What’s this? Unfired. Hey, fascist. Catch arrows. Oh, Bella Chow. Bella Chow. Bella Chow.” He changes into dark clothes on the roof; 12:22, 12:33 he fires a single shot from the roof striking Kirk; he flees, discards the rifle, and changes back into maroon. Turning Point employees tamper with a crime scene; FBI arrives 12:39; 10:45 reward announced for information; 7,000 to 11,000 leads; by Sept 11–12, Robinson detained at home by US Marshals, FBI custody soon after. The narrator questions CCTV footage, Discord messages, and suggests the possibility of faked gait, inviting viewers to review footage and share.

Questions the claim that 'some random trans shooter was on the roof, took this shot, runs across into the rooftop, jumps down, somehow magically being undetected because the FBI releases a a video footage.' He asks if he had 'planted the gun on the roof prior' and how he could 'walk back in the second time without the weapon.' He questions why 'we don't have any images of this kid leaving the school' or 'any video footage of this kid jumping off the roof,' and notes he 'runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' while wearing 'an American flag shirt.' He doubts the FBI photo is the best they can provide and references 'criminal minds' and 'the BAU' that would 'rerender that image' to be 'pixel perfect' with 'face recognition software.' Contrasts movie-like tech with reality, calling it 'weird.'

So after the shooting, she was there. They're saying he ran across the, roof there, jumped off right about there, and then he ran and walked. And this is about where he crossed the road. This was the same point from where he worked where he walked across the street. So he could have either gone in there and gone into the woods or walk this way behind those trees. And then just just over here, there's an opening. Gateway open. And that is right about here. And then from there, he walked this way, ran. I discovered some stairs. The stairs go down, which puts us into that field. The camera was here facing this way, and he was walking down this way. He went across, down, and that's as far as we get. But I think he probably parked over here at the Utah County, the county of Science.

We were able to track the movements of the shooter. Starting at 11:52AM, the subject arrived on campus shortly away from campus. We have tracked his movements onto the campus, through the stairwells, up to the roof, across the roof to a shooting location. After the shooting, we were able to track his movements as he moved to the other side of the building, jumped off of the building, and fled, off of the campus and into a neighborhood. We do have good video footage of this individual. We are not going release that at this time. If we are unsuccessful, we will reach out to you as the media, and we will push that publicly to help us identify them. We are exhausting every lead. We have every officer invested in this, every investigator, every local agency.