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The speaker discusses the new Department of Government Efficiency, potentially led by Elon Musk. They investigated four instances of wasteful spending that Donald Trump mentioned. $22 billion from Health and Human Services went to housing and transportation for documented migrants. $60 million went to indigenous peoples and Afro-Colombian empowerment in Central America via USAID, with unclear results. $32 million went to the Republic of Moldova for a left-wing propaganda operation, also via USAID. $42 million went to Johns Hopkins University for behavior change in Uganda, funded by USAID. Trump claimed $25 billion in waste. A Rasmussen poll shows that 59% of Americans support auditing Social Security, and 61% believe an audit would reveal widespread fraud. 55% are confident they'll receive promised Social Security benefits. 43% trust Democrats more to handle Social Security, while 44% trust Republicans. The speaker questions whether Democrats will watch spending.

The speaker emphasizes the necessity of a long-term effort to combat waste and fraud, claiming that it will return if vigilance is relaxed, especially if Democrats regain power. The goal is to eliminate funding and grants, making it difficult to restart wasteful and fraudulent activities. The speaker questions whether government employees respect taxpayer money, suggesting a lack of incentive to do so. They assert that incentives determine outcomes and that the payment system is structured such that requests for money are automatically approved.

Speaker 0 introduces a campaign to cut government waste, specifying that deficit reduction requires cutting billions from valued programs, but eliminating pointless waste should be easy. Speaker 1 claims there has been a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government during the Biden administration, estimating federal government fraud at half a trillion dollars. The goal is to reduce this figure, saving taxpayer money by stopping spending on things that very few taxpayers would agree makes sense, such as transgender animal surgeries. Speaker 1 also questions why twenty million people who are definitely dead are mocked as alive in the Social Security database.

We've discovered $2.7 trillion in improper payments to Medicare, Medicaid, and overseas recipients who shouldn't have received them. This is just one example of the fraud, waste, and abuse we're identifying daily. Elon Musk highlighted Social Security payments being made to deceased individuals, which is clearly fraudulent. We're also finding contracts where, for instance, a million dollars was allocated, but only $500,000 was actually spent. Where did the remaining funds go? These are the issues we're addressing daily. This is exactly what President Trump promised to do during his campaign, and we are delivering on that promise.

Speaker 0: The seventy six day period is the time between when President Trump was elected and President Biden left office. Is that right? Speaker 1: Correct. During that period, from the loan program office in loans and commitments, $93,000,000,000 went out the door—well over twice as much as in the previous fifteen years. There were funds that went out the door and commitments made from businesses that provided no business plan and no numbers about their own financial solvency or how this project... Speaker 0: So you’re telling me that the Department of Energy, in the seventy six day period, before their boss was going to leave office, gave our loan money to entities that had no business plan? Correct. No financials? Speaker 1: Correct. I’ve come in with great concern about how this institution, Speaker 0: this great American institution has been run and how American taxpayer money has been handled. You’re going back through and checking each one of these loans and these grants to make sure there was no stealing, aren’t you? Speaker 1: We’re looking at that, and yes, my blood pressure is rising right now just thinking about what we have seen and what did happen at the moment. Gonna tell some of these boondoggles no, aren’t you? Speaker 0: That’s correct. I am. It’s rare that I’m speechless, but I want to be sure I understood. The people running the Department of Energy for President Biden’s administration shoveled $93,000,000,000 out the door in seventy six days, and it just happened to be the time between when President Trump was elected and President Biden, their boss, was leaving. Is that right? Speaker 1: It is correct and distasteful. Confidence undermining. My god.

Speaker 0 questions the legitimacy of government spending, implying items like hammers and toilet seats don't actually cost $20,000 and $30,000 respectively. Speaker 1 objects to this line of questioning, stating it is devastating to their case.

The investigation highlights potential fraud or serious irregularities in Somali daycare operations, based on observed signs such as windows not covered with vinyl and a lack of signage or children visible at purported day care locations. The team questions the existence of many day cares, noting that some places listed as licensed have no identifiable activity or occupants when visited. Speaker 2 argues that even if a daycare were legitimate and serving only two children, there is “no world” where the government should be giving almost a million dollars or three-quarters of a million dollars in subsidies to such a place. The discussion underscores how fraudulent claims can be made easily and points to a lack of visible accountability in the system. The agency responsible for overseeing and funding daycares is identified as the Washington State Department of Children, Youth, and Families, with Secretary Tana Sen named as the head of the agency being discussed. To contact leadership, the team attempts to reach the communications department led by Nancy Gutierrez, noting repeated efforts to obtain comment about suspicious Somali daycares. They report multiple attempts to call and email, with messages indicating that some numbers are unavailable and voicemails are full. Speaker 0 notes the difficulty in getting a response from DCYF’s top communications official, emphasizing that their mailbox is full and no responses have been received. This lack of contact is framed as convenient for avoiding questions about the alleged issues. Speaker 6 states that if fraud is confirmed, a forensic audit should be conducted to trace how much money was actually spent and to recover any funds. Speaker 7 suggests that, even in the best-case scenario, the situation is inefficient and a waste of taxpayer dollars. Speaker 8 adds that there is a prevailing attitude in Olympia that does not recognize the problem.

Speaker 0 raises the issue of leadership in Minnesota, noting that dozens of people have been charged and convicted for stealing millions of taxpayer dollars from government programs. The question is whether Governor Walls did enough to stop the fraud in the state, and whether Speaker 0 supports Walls’ decision not to run for reelection. Speaker 1 responds by crediting Governor Walls with achievements: Walls is the reason Minnesota has paid family leave and free school lunches. He notes that they have been through thick and thin together. Regarding fraud, Speaker 1 concedes that obviously everybody could have done more to prevent fraud, and he says that is a fair point to make. He points to current efforts, stating that Walls is setting up a whole bunch of infrastructure to do that. He affirms that the fraud is real and that it must be acknowledged. In terms of accountability, Speaker 1 emphasizes that when somebody commits fraud, there should be investigation, charges, prosecution, and, if appropriate, jail for the individual. He stresses that you do not hold an entire community accountable for the actions of individuals.

The speaker introduces a campaign to cut government waste, stating that deficit reduction requires difficult choices, including cuts to valued programs. They claim there has been a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government during the Biden administration, estimating federal government fraud at half a trillion dollars. The goal is to reduce this figure, saving taxpayer money by stopping spending on things that very few taxpayers would agree makes sense. Examples cited include transgender animal surgeries and the presence of twenty million dead people in the Social Security database.

**Speaker 0:** 212 Democrats voted against no tax on tips, Social Security, and overtime. If the government makes money and spends it responsibly, taxes aren't necessary. The new administration is holding the government accountable, and people are mad about it. **Speaker 1:** There's no tax on tips, overtime, or Social Security in the budget resolution. Taxes are normal. This utopia where nobody pays taxes isn't going to work. Read the budget before lecturing people about it.

I'm nearly convinced that our entire national debt of $36 trillion is due to fraud, abuse, and waste. A staggering $2.7 trillion was improperly sent overseas as Medicare and Medicaid payments. How is this even possible? Is there any part of our government that isn't defrauding the American people? We've barely scratched the surface of this audit, and it already seems the answer is no. It feels like every branch of government has been robbing Americans blind while we struggle to make ends meet. People are still freezing. I want to see arrests, and I want the names of those responsible revealed.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about accepting a large IPO deal from Visa while serving as Speaker of the House. Speaker 1 defends the decision, stating there was no conflict of interest. Speaker 0 presses for clarification, but Speaker 1 maintains there was no wrongdoing.

The speaker emphasizes the necessity of a long-term commitment to preventing waste and fraud, claiming that these issues will resurface if vigilance is relaxed, especially when Democrats regain power. The aim is to eliminate funding and grants to make restarting wasteful practices difficult. The speaker questions whether government employees respect taxpayer money, suggesting a lack of incentive to do so. They assert that incentives determine outcomes and that the current payment system readily provides funds upon request.

The speaker questions protesters about Social Security and government waste. The speaker states that Social Security wasn't cut, but their offices are being cut back. The speaker asks if anyone can name one person in the United States who lost Social Security benefits under Elon Musk. The speaker questions why the protesters are demonstrating in public but don't want to show their faces on camera. The speaker asks the protesters what they are protesting and why they don't want to cut government waste. The speaker suggests that protesting in public while refusing to appear on camera shows cowardice.

Speaker 0 claims the Department of Government Efficiency found hundreds of billions in fraud, but Speaker 1 denies any fraud was found. Speaker 0 alleges Social Security is paying people over 220 years old, which Speaker 1 disputes. Speaker 1 criticizes Trump's anti-immigrant stance and calls Musk a "thug." Speaker 0 defends Trump, suggesting he might be the greatest president in modern American history. Speaker 1 calls Speaker 0 "deluded" for supporting Trump, characterizing Trump as rude, nasty, and racist. Speaker 0 accuses others of being in a cult, claiming they try to stop people from talking to those with different ideas. Speaker 0 says things got "hot" and troopers asked him to leave. Speaker 0 then shares the speech he planned to give, emphasizing that all are Americans with First Amendment rights and should unite to eliminate corruption.

Let's put aside the fear mongering. No one in the Trump administration has advocated using Social Security money for other purposes. However, there are real questions about spending. The other side calls funding pauses illegal, but pausing spending for a month isn't impoundment. This is a separation of powers issue. I voted against repurposing money for the wall. When money was stopped at USAID, $2,000,000 was found for sex changes in Guatemala. Should a president be able to execute their policy? The bureaucracy is unmovable and skewed towards spending more. Should we spend millions on things like girl-centric climate change in Brazil or microaggressions among obese Latinx individuals? Scrutiny is good. I want the discovery of waste to lead to permanent change. The minority party likely won't want to cut funding for things like sex changes in Guatemala. If we can save money, like $200,000,000 on an aircraft carrier, we should do a rescission package and fill our $2,000,000,000,000 deficit.

Chairman Marcia Taylor Green's subcommittee discovered $2.7 trillion in improper payments to Medicare, Medicaid, and overseas recipients. These payments went to individuals who should not have received them. Doge is identifying fraud, waste, and abuse daily. Elon Musk mentioned Social Security payments being sent to deceased individuals. There are also contracts where, for example, a million dollars was allocated, but only $500,000 was disbursed, raising questions about the missing funds. Doge is actively addressing these issues. President Trump campaigned on this and is delivering on that promise.

Speaker 1 admits to leaving a required oversight hearing in order to go on a personal vacation. Speaker 0 finds this unacceptable and questions if Speaker 1 paid for the flight. Speaker 1 confirms they paid for it and agrees to provide receipts to the committee. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 is still capable of doing their job, to which Speaker 1 responds affirmatively. However, Speaker 0 disagrees and believes Speaker 1 should have been removed long ago.

Speaker 0 asks Joe if he has ever been on the Senate floor and talked about cutting Social Security, Medicare, and veterans' programs. Joe denies ever saying that. Speaker 0 insists that Joe has made those statements multiple times, but Joe continues to deny it. Joe claims that he meant everything was on the table for discussion, but he did not support those specific cuts. Speaker 0 challenges Joe to watch videos on YouTube where he made those statements.

The speaker asserts that people will suffer due to an unspecified action. They state that fraud is a crime and claim there have been no referrals to the Justice Department in any instance. When questioned on this, the speaker initially denies being asked a question, then confirms that there have been referrals for fraud. The speaker then claims that billions of dollars were given to people for no reason and pivots to what they consider one of the biggest achievements of the first term.

Speaker 0 highlights that the report indicates the federal government wasted millions in the past year on transgender animal experiments and lab testing beagles in China, noting a contrast with funds used for voting identification. He frames the issue as a question of priorities: we don’t want to pay for people to have an ID to vote, but we’ll pay for lab testing beagles in China. Speaker 1 responds by acknowledging the presence of extensive federal spending and the need for greater oversight. He says this is the ninth year they have worked through this, and that there is always a need for more eyes on it and greater transparency. He emphasizes that the problem is not confined to a single administration or Congress, but rather that there is broad complexity requiring scrutiny and sunshine. Speaker 1 identifies the shutdown as the largest area of waste in the prior year, stating that $85,000,000,000 was lost during that period. He argues that shutdowns do have real fiscal impacts, countering a common belief that they do not affect outcomes. He then points to a specific critique: a quarter of a billion dollars was spent on transitioning mice and monkeys by NIH. He claims that American taxpayers do not want their dollars spent on such activities, and reiterates that taxpayers are more supportive of spending on national defense, education, and infrastructure, but not on what he describes as wasteful or inappropriate expenditures. Across the exchange, the speakers stress the overarching theme of government spending that does not align with the public’s perceived priorities. They emphasize the need for oversight and accountability, highlighting large-scale waste associated with shutdowns and specific research expenditures. The dialogue centers on contrasting perceived essential investments with expenditures they describe as wasteful or misaligned with taxpayer priorities, especially in the context of animal research and international laboratory activities.

The speaker asserts there is an enormous amount of waste, fraud, and abuse in the government, particularly within Medicare. They claim past proponents of budget cuts are now opposing efforts to eliminate waste. The speaker states that eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicare will require cuts, with the goal of cutting the "bad stuff" while preserving the "good stuff." The speaker accuses certain individuals, identified by a picture, of rooting against these efforts, labeling them as examples of waste, fraud, and abuse.

The speaker outlines several policy and oversight actions within HUD and related agencies. First, they assert that non-permanent residents are no longer eligible for FHA insured mortgages, and that public housing authorities are being audited to ensure taxpayer dollars do not support illegal aliens, insisting that “American dollars should benefit American citizens and American citizens only.” Despite these emphasis on restricting benefits, the speaker notes that HUD previously provided a pathway for home ownership and supported housing affordability for more than 1,000,000 Americans through FHA and Ginnie Mae, highlighting the agency’s impact in expanding access to housing and affordability. On stewardship and accountability, the speaker emphasizes a strong focus on cracking down on waste and fraud and abuse. They cite findings from the office of the chief financial officer (CFO) regarding potential financial issues: more than $5,000,000,000 in potential payment errors and over $50,000,000,000 in total rental assistance for fiscal year 2024. They also point to a specific problem within that broader amount: money that went to nearly 30,000 dead people. The speaker characterizes these financial findings as ludicrous and unacceptable, stating that such issues are a violation of the sacred trust with American taxpayers. They assert that the problem “has to end, and it will,” signaling a firm commitment to ending waste, fraud, and abuse and to restoring confidence in the management of housing programs and related federal dollars.

We're uncovering massive fraud, waste, and abuse daily. Recently, it was discovered that there were $2.7 trillion in improper payments to Medicare, Medicaid, and overseas. Social Security payments are even going to deceased individuals. We're also seeing contracts where the full amount wasn't delivered. For example, a million-dollar contract might only see $500,000 distributed, and we're working to find where the rest of the money went. This is exactly what I campaigned on, and what 77 million people elected me to do.

There are no Doge cuts, and this is not USAID. The speaker is talking about waste and fraud, specifically in Medicaid, and claims no one has been turned over to the DOJ for fraud. Elon Musk gave false hope to a political class that doesn't want to cut anything. The big bill has problems, but it passed because Musk promised a trillion dollars. The rescission next week is $9 billion, with $2 billion from PBS and NPR. There's supposedly $7 billion in fraud on a $7 trillion budget. Musk committed $1 trillion to the President, leading to questions about whether it's all "BS."