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Ms. Green from Georgia states: "the man the 22 year old man, Tyler Robinson, that that murdered Charlie Kirk is not MAGA. His family may be Republican but all of the evidence that is being presented proves that he is a far leftist, very much integrated in online groups that are linked to Antifa. He was in a relationship with a biological male, so called furry, whatever that is, that is transitioning to be a fake woman. That is he was not MAGA, not one bit." She calls it "a complete lie, and it's an insult to every single Republican and person that identifies with those type of politics." She says, "We will not tolerate it," and claims that this language is getting many of us death threats day after day, and led to shootings on the baseball field where Steve Scalise was shot. "This is what led to President Trump nearly being assassinated this past summer. This is what has led to Charlie Kirk being assassinated." And so I just I just wanna give a warning there. "We're not going to tolerate that anymore. Mister chairman You know something else we're not going to tolerate is crime."

Officials say they do not have a motive yet. Law enforcement 'hasn't laid out a direct motive,' though they 'laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages' and 'they said that he was a left wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk.' The panel discusses whether the shooter was a right-wing actor; 'the assassin there was not a right wing assassin acting on a political motive.' They argue violence is partisan: 'It is the left that overwhelmingly celebrates this,' citing Blue Sky as 'a cesspool of leftist celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk,' and polls suggesting Democrats support violence against Musk and Trump. Kamala Harris was accused of funding rioters; 'following the money' for acts of violence is urged. They note past incidents, including the Minnesota murder, calling the perpetrator 'horrible' and saying he should be prosecuted. Senator Ted Cruz closes.

The discussion centers on motive in a shooting. "we don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet." "That's CNN's position. Mean, he just happened to fire the gun in celebration." They note "law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive" though "they laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages." The panel debates whether the shooter was "a left wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk." "I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should be prosecuted" and "we should follow the money. Anyone funding acts of violence, we should." They claim "the left ... overwhelmingly celebrates this," citing "Blue Sky ... leftist celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk" and "over 50% of Democrats saying violence against Elon Musk is justified." They discuss violence on both sides and conclude, "There are deranged lunatics who attack people both right and left." Sen. Cruz, thanks for your time tonight.

The discussion centers on Charlie Kirk and the handling of his death. The speakers are uncertain about the official account and call for a truly rigorous and honest federal investigation. Specific points raised include: - A claim that Canada said Egyptian-registered aircraft followed Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk, around for years in various places; the speaker asserts this is factually true and notes it is a very strange data point, though its meaning is unclear. - A claim that Erika Kirk’s event had a disproportionately large number of foreign-registered cell phones, which is also stated as true. - The speakers emphasize that the FBI has a moral and legal obligation to investigate openly and to consider all possibilities, applying the same process as in science, journalism, and law enforcement. They express a lack of confidence in the FBI and the officials who run it, and argue that honesty and a coherent narrative are needed to restore public trust. - Foreknowledge of the incident is discussed: posts on X allegedly predicted that Charlie Kirk would be killed on the date of the college event in Utah. The question is raised about whether those posts were just guessing and whether those involved have been interviewed by the FBI to determine how they knew what they knew. - The speakers compare the investigation to other events, suggesting that if they investigated, they would examine who publicly posted foreknowledge and seek detailed explanations: who they spoke to, what they know, and how to verify it. - There is a request for an explanation of how the killer transformed into a radical, violent actor, with a note that the speaker does not automatically endorse trans ideologies but wants to understand the radicalization process. - The speakers discuss Candace Owens’ role: the controversy and turmoil surrounding her claims, and the idea that those in authority are responsible for the investigation, not individuals like Candace or podcasters. - A concluding sentiment expresses greater trust in Candace Owens’ intent than in the average DOJ official, framing Candace’s presence as filling a vacuum left by authorities, while insisting that the people in charge must restore confidence through honest reporting and a plausible narrative.

Speakers analyze Tyler Robinson's motive behind the Charlie Kirk attack, noting conflicting clues—casings with anti fascist references and a 4chan meme—and a family saying he wasn't political. They warn that if he dies soon a conspiracy would unfold. A YouGov stat is cited: "24% of far left think it's okay to retaliate. You see all these videos. We should kill them and see the bullets in the streets," and "some hatred cannot be negotiated with." They contrast with conservatives' views and discuss free speech: "There is no place in America for people to say seek vengeance and kill the opposition." The guests warn of a potential "wildfire" of violence and recount a recent FBI security call; Kirk says three areas must be protected: "home, office, going on the road." They discuss measurement via "signal" vs "noise" and a hypothetical "FICA score" to elevate moderate voices. They touch Ackman-Israel intrigue and Netanyahu interview aftermath.

Pro gun advocate Charlie Kirk just got shot in the neck at his debate rally. The speaker laments political violence: “I try to avoid American politics... but I've opened X to a bunch of little bitches crying and whinging about how political violence is never the answer.” They claim, “These people are gunning for politics that are inherently violent to its people, to to marginalize people, to people who need access to health care.” The message: this is “the same across the West”—“This isn't just The US. This is England too.” The speaker adds, “I'm sick of this idea that you can't meet violence with violence. If somebody was smacking you... you're going to hit them back. You have to.” They conclude, “These people do not care if you live or die... They want you to die.” “Why is anyone anyone condemning that fucking kill them all kill them all”

The speaker questions the FBI/media portrayal of Tyler as a "trans kid, lone shooter on a roof." He says he could give "150,000 reasons why Israel would benefit from Charlie Kirk being assassinated," and argues "the current government in Israel that is blackmailing the most powerful government in the world would have fallen" if Kirk had continued speaking as he was. He says he can't give you one reason why Tyler would; notes "we know nothing really about this boyfriend" and that "Raw Alerts" is run by someone "wearing a doggy mask and diapers" who is "on our side fighting to expose corruption" and not "out there with a rifle." He notes 'no posts on social media about it' and asks, "What radicalized trans person do you know that didn't leave a memoir," wondering if Tyler would have "engraving this stuff on-site," concluding "This stuff's not adding up to me."

"I don't know who did this. And I sure hope that it was not from the left that would be better." "But it doesn't matter because the first Trump assassination also was not from the left." "It was just a guy who was going to also had Biden on his target list." "And it's been made in the ideology of this far right that you're seeing online." "It's part of a line, Brett Kavanaugh, Trump assassination, how Charlie Kirk," "It doesn't matter that it wasn't from the left because that part has been erased in the common litany of grievances." "Absolutely." "I mean, it's just it's just about the, momentum of violence. Right?" "If one side keeps punching, that's bad, that's really bad." "But it's much worse when one side punches, the other punches back." "That causes an escalation."

Speaker 1 expresses concern about calls framing Trump as a martyr and about retaliatory violence online, fearing escalation as the left is vilified and Democrats blamed by Trump. A video message Trump recorded in the Oval Office moves from condolences to politics: "It's a long past time for all Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree day after day, year after year, in the most hateful and despicable way possible." The reaction notes this rhetoric aligns with Trump's politics of vengeance and calls out hypocrisy in vilification, citing Charlie Kirk's line: "standing for everything that God hates, claiming that, you know, queer people are defective and dangerous and and should be executed." The discussion concludes that polarizing rhetoric fuels loss of civility and may encourage violence from both sides.

Speaker 0 asserts openness to many topics but not to the theory that Tyler Robinson didn’t kill Charlie, and questions who else was involved or if there were other voices in the row. They state the evidence in the case is incredibly watertight and express a desire to focus on broader issues rather than debating that point. They call attention to the rise of left-wing violence, mental health illness in the country, and young people on the progressive side turning to Mangioneism and assassination culture, suggesting they can solve political disputes by justifying violence. They accuse the current discussion of veering into rabbit trails and acknowledge good-faith questions, while noting that they’ve been lied to. They emphasize the harm caused to their team, staff, and movement by the issue, describing it as carnage, and express a wish not to see more of that and to move through the situation sooner rather than later.

The transcript centers on a long-form discussion of the Epstein case, the alleged “deep state,” FOIA operations, and political maneuvering around Trump, with frequent calls to aggressively release and pursue Epstein-related documents and other investigations. The speakers assert that the FOIA department is being used to shield deep-state ties and that many federal offices are filled with anti-Trump figures who have prevented full disclosure. - Epstein files and the role of the deep state - The speakers claim the Epstein files are being selectively redacted by FOIA departments to conceal deep-state connections. They state that FOIA personnel are controlled by deep-state actors and that Epstein’s case involves a “fleet of aircraft” and operations linked to major power centers. They argue Epstein’s activities connect to money laundering, information laundering, and a broader set of deep-state assets and operations. - They propose a remedy: appoint Tom Fitton as special counsel on the Epstein files, arguing he “knows how FOIA really works,” understands key personnel, and has litigated Epstein-related cases for years. They assert this would restore public confidence and expedite the exposure of Democratic ties and other actors alleged to be involved. - They advocate for Trump to have executive-privilege-style powers to declassify and release Epstein materials, suggesting a broad interpretation of “Epstein file law” that would allow him to disclose or appoint an ombudsman with power to release materials at will. They emphasize the need to disclose Democratic ties and to hold press conferences when releasing documents, avoiding the use of fake documents or videos. - Specific figures and institutions named - Kash Patel is cited as saying there are “open files on a dozen plus coconspirators” and as someone who has noted alleged misdirections by those handling Epstein-related material. - Kyle Serafin and Phil Kennedy are mentioned as documenting a person at the FBI capacity who is “an anti-Trump advocate,” implying that deep-state appointments control FOIA and related processes. - Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss replacing FOIA and related personnel who are deeply implicated; they specifically name Tom Fitton as the ideal choice and entertain other high-profile figures like Tulsi Gabbard as potential custodians of the Epstein disclosures. - Tulsi Gabbard is described as being in charge of broader investigations tied to the Epstein files and other major political issues (elections, COVID-19, etc.). They also reference “Epstein files” intersecting with other investigations they attribute to the deep state. - Epstein, Maxwell, and allied networks - Epstein is described as deeply embedded with Western intelligence agencies (French, Israeli, UK, and US) and tied to Robert Maxwell, with Maxwell’s daughter linked to Epstein. Epstein is portrayed as having been “recruited by Bill Barr” and as a central figure in a long-running intelligence and blackmail operation. - The discussion links Epstein to Leslie Wexner (Victoria’s Secret founder) and a French talent agency, portraying these connections as part of a large, interconnected network involved in money laundering, arms trafficking, blackmail, and intelligence work. - The speakers insist that Epstein’s activities extended to the late 1990s and beyond, including alleged involvement in “Shutters” in Santa Monica and other high-profile cases, with a consistent pattern of using underage girls and blackmail to exert influence. - They emphasize a broader motive: exposing the “deep state” to vindicate Trump and indict deep-state actors who allegedly engaged in illicit operations, including foreign intelligence services and Western governments. - The broader political frame and potential indictments - The Epstein files are presented as a potential hinge for indicting a wide array of figures across political lines, including references to Comey, Mueller, Hillary Clinton-era actors, and other “rogue actors” who allegedly hindered investigations. - The conversation ties Epstein to broader themes: the 2020 election, COVID policies, and anti-Trump actions by the “deep state.” They contend that the Epstein disclosures could demonstrate the depth of state interference in political processes and media, making Democrats and their institutions targets of accountability. - They argue the Epstien files could show criminal activity by multiple national actors, including Israeli, UK, and French components, and could reveal coordinated efforts to derail Trump and manipulate media narratives. - The Candace Owens angle and related criticisms - A substantial portion of the dialogue critiques Candace Owens, alleging she is running a “CIA-style” operation that distracts from the true conspiracy around the deep state and Tarantifa, and that she manipulates narratives related to Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk. - They accuse Owens of shifting narratives, fabricating alibis, and promoting disinformation, calling her a “SIOP” (psychological operation) and alleging her behind-the-scenes connections to MI6 or other international actors through her husband (George Farmer) and other associates. - They recount multiple incidents where Owens purportedly changed stories about meetings, alibis, and involvement in various investigations, asserting she uses “receipts” selectively and inconsistently to support divergent claims. - The speakers allege that Owens’s public warfare against Trump and TP USA is part of a broader intelligence operation intended to disrupt conservative momentum, link to Royal/MI6 circles, and undermine investigations into the deep state and its networks. - Tyler Robinson case and media dynamics - They describe Tyler Robinson as a Middle American figure whose transformation into a political actor is portrayed as a product of online radicalization and Tarantifa-linked influences. They claim there was a concerted effort to spoon-feed disinformation about Robinson and Candace Owens’ involvement. - They argue this is part of a larger pattern of media manipulation and disinformation designed to distract from real conspiracies and to target Trump and conservative movements. - Strategy and messaging guidance - The speakers advocate for Trump to go on the offensive with Epstein, releasing comprehensive, verified documentation, and pushing accountability for “rogue actors” in the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, and the NSA. - They stress the need for aggressive prosecution and the appointment of trusted figures to lead the Epstein disclosures, arguing that this could restore public confidence and pivot the political conversation toward accountability for the deep state. - They urge addressing the statute of limitations issues in COVID, January 6, and 2020 election-related cases before the window closes in early 2026, warning that delays by Bondi, Blanche, and others could jeopardize prosecutions and political support. - Promotional and logistical notes - The dialogue includes frequent mentions of promoting Alex Jones programs, products, and stores (alexjonesstore.com and infowarsstore.com) to fund operations, along with appeals to listeners to support the broadcasts financially and through purchases, framing financial support as essential to sustaining investigations, media efforts, and broader political action. In sum, the transcript presents an entangled, aggressively conspiratorial narrative: a claim that Epstein’s files illuminate a vast, deeply embedded deep-state apparatus spanning multiple nations and agencies; a call to appoint trusted figures (notably Tom Fitton) to supervise full disclosure; a push for Trump to declassify and publicly prosecute the implicated actors; a harsh critique of Candace Owens as part of a disinformation ecosystem; and a broader strategy to use Epstein, along with related investigations, to dismantle perceived institutional corruption while fueling political narratives and fundraising.

Speaker questions the FBI/media claim that 'Tyler was some type of trans kid, lone shooter on a roof' and says, 'I could actually almost guarantee you that the current government in Israel that is blackmailing the most powerful government in the entire world would have failed, would have fallen had Charlie Kirk continue speaking the way he was speaking.' He adds, 'I can't give you one why Tyler would.' He notes 'Raw Alerts' with 'doggy mask and diapers' and claims the operator is 'on our side fighting to expose corruption.' He states there were 'no posts on social media about it,' and asks, 'What radicalized trans person do you know that didn't leave a memoir that you mean to tell me he was engraving this stuff on-site?' He ends with, 'What about you guys? Drop some comments below.' He asserts, 'Israel, this demonic state that literally seems to worship Satan, bomb children, blow up women and children, murder journalists, assassinated multiple leaders in America already... would benefit from this.'

"Charlie Kirk was assassinated two weeks ago today in an event that clearly is gonna change American history, changed a lot of people inside." "free speech is a virtue. It is, in fact, the foundation of this country, not only its laws, but its culture, and that we should protect it." "Section two thirty is a section two thirty within the 1996 Communications Decency Act, and it is the piece of legislation often credited for creating the Internet." "The distinction allows the platforms to let other people post whatever they want without getting sued for it." "Section two thirty needs to be repealed. If you're mad at social media companies that radicalize our nation, you should be mad." "More than 12,000 people arrested every single year for criticizing their government in The UK."

The discussion centers on motive, violence, and media dynamics surrounding the Charlie Kirk incident and rising political polarization. It opens with “But 24% of far left think it's okay to retaliate. You see all these videos. We should kill them and see the bullets in the streets.” The panel notes “We should put the scare of death in the conservatives so they'll never do this ever again” and cites YouGov data: “24% said it's okay to take somebody out for political differences” (liberals) vs “3% of very conservative.” They debate free speech and incitement; “some hatred cannot be negotiated” and “the loudest person in the boardroom, the one that is listened to.” A warning of a “short list of 50 names” and “I am at twenty percent” risk of civil unrest leads to proposals for data-driven moderation: “signal noise filter” and a “FICA score,” with “Elon is as close to a 100% signal as possible.” They discuss Ackman, BB, and “BB offered him a $150,000,000 to maybe have Charlie give more pro Israel messages,” plus “Qatar's paying money.” The hosts reject “No path for such a theory to be considered” about Israel, and emphasize lowering temperature.

"Do you accept, Carrie, that this is a it's not just a one-sided problem? The political violence and violent rhetoric is a problem on both sides of the divide, and it's incumbent on everybody in a position of authority and influence to take the lead here in trying to to just tone things down." "There's been a few cases where it goes from from the right to the left, but there's been an exorbitant number where it's coming from the left to the right. And you can't deny that. If you add it all up, it's just more violence. I mean, president Trump was nearly assassinated. There's another attempt on his life." "The media has to take credit for what they have caused, the chaos they've caused in our country, and they haven't done it. And until they do, they need to be turned off, canceled, muted. They're absolutely abhorrent."

Patrick and Mario discuss Tyler Robinson's motive, noting casings with 'an anti fascist anthem' and 'noticing bulges' and that his family said he wasn't political; Tyler's Discord message 'some hatred cannot be negotiated' is cited. They reference YouGov data: '24% of far left think it's okay to retaliate' vs. '3% of very conservative', and debate free-speech boundaries, citing 'There needs to be certain limits to monopoly laws' and 'When you say you want blood in the streets, I've seen blood in the streets.' The conversation covers how to lower temperature, with Elon Musk as a model: 'Elon can start this signal noise filter' and 'Elon is as close to a 100% signal.' They discuss a proposed 'FICA score' for posts and the FBI 'short list of 50 names.' They also touch money/influence around Israel, Ackman, and Charlie Kirk, noting Charlie 'didn't take the money.'

The panel debates motive, with "we don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet" and "Law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive. They've laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages." They cite "they said that he was a left wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk." "Look. I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should be prosecuted and go to jail." They claim "There has been an enormous amount, and CNN has been guilty of this, of both sides ism." They argue "It is the left that overwhelmingly celebrates this" and "look at Blue Sky and it is a cesspool of leftist celebrating the murder of of Charlie Kirk." The discussion touches polling: "the polls the vast majority of Democrats believe a Republican and a Trump supporter." "Senator Ted Cruz, thanks for your time tonight."