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I'm Alexander Boss, from Mayor Karen Bass's office in Los Angeles. I'm disclosing that the Mayor's office was aware of the wildfire risks. When asked if the office knew about the possibility of a fire, I confirmed that they did. The red flag warnings were a strong indication. However, I also admitted that there was nothing the Mayor's office could do to prevent the fires, even with the advance warning.

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A significant portion of America is experiencing wildfires, often attributed to climate change. However, environmentalist Michael Shellenberger argues that while climate change is real, it isn't the primary cause of California's fires. Instead, he points to poor forest management practices, where years of suppressing natural fires have led to overgrowth, increasing the risk of uncontrollable blazes. Well-managed forests have survived these fires, demonstrating that effective practices like prescribed burning are essential for maintaining biodiversity. Despite concerns over ancient redwoods, their thick bark makes them resilient to fire. Recent fires have prompted California's politicians to support tree thinning, a shift in policy that recognizes the importance of proper forest management over merely blaming climate change. Ultimately, while climate change poses challenges, it is not the sole factor in the increasing frequency of wildfires.

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the growing urgency of climate-related concerns and how global attention has shifted in recent years. Speaker 1 states: “the phenomenal change that's come about in the last two or three years is that probably isn't a child over the age of six that isn't deeply concerned about climate change. I mean, there were reports in the past, but now the focus of the world are on those problems, whether it's droughts, whether it's storms, whether it's the seaside being ruined, just undermining life.” This underscores a marked increase in concern among younger generations about climate issues and a perception that the world’s focus has shifted to problems such as droughts, storms, and the degradation of seaside environments, which are framed as threats to life. Speaker 0 adds context by noting that “Corona has slightly, I'm afraid, eclipsed the importance of this conversation. No one's saying corona isn't incredibly devastating, but actually, we do need to think long term about the planet.” This introduces a tension between the immediate impacts of the pandemic and the need for long-term planetary thinking, suggesting that the pandemic has overshadowed discussions about climate, even while acknowledging its devastation. Speaker 1 elaborates on the consequence of this shift, characterizing the pandemic’s impact as “a distraction. Well, more than a distraction. It's a tragedy, but it does have that knock on effect.” This phrase emphasizes that the pandemic is not only a distraction but also has broader knock-on effects that affect attention to climate and long-term planetary considerations. Together, the speakers convey a sense of heightened public concern about climate change among young people, the prominence of climate-related problems such as droughts, storms, and coastal degradation, and the challenge posed by the COVID-19 pandemic in diverting attention away from long-term environmental planning. The exchange indicates a tension between addressing urgent, immediate crises and maintaining focus on long-term planetary health.

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We are now committed to working collaboratively with the legislature, state agencies, and the federal government. This partnership has shifted from being adversarial to cooperative. We are focusing on leveraging support through a memorandum of understanding, which enhances our commitments to vegetation and forest management, as well as prescribed burns. This effort aligns with the Biden administration's resources to advance our shared goals. Overall, we are embracing a new framework for collaboration.

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I don't use unproven approaches like planting trees to address the climate issue. Some people believe that planting enough trees can solve the problem, but that's nonsense. Are we the science people or the idiots?

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The speaker discusses the urgency of addressing the issue of global climate change, particularly in Hawaii. They believe that by leading by example and showcasing the pain and suffering caused by climate change, people will take the issue seriously. The speaker mentions the importance of smart cities and fire mitigation in preventing future disasters. They express frustration at not being able to rewind the video due to being in their room.

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Over 1,000 people are missing in Maui due to wildfires, while California experiences a rare hurricane. Young voters express concern about climate change and ask how it will be addressed. The speaker discusses the theory of climate change, stating that CO2 is believed to cause an increase in Earth's surface temperature. However, the speaker questions the accuracy of climate models and argues that they are based on unsolvable mathematics. They also criticize the lack of inclusion of clouds in these models. The speaker suggests that forest fires can be controlled through proper management and infrastructure, but claims that some governments may have an economic incentive to support fires in order to impose carbon taxes. They advocate for a bottoms-up movement and encourage support for their presidential campaign.

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We agree that vegetation management is important, but we need to consider the impact of climate change on our forests. Ignoring science won't help us protect Californians. It will start getting cooler, just watch. I wish science agreed with you, but I don't think it does.

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Since 2018, we have doubled our budget for vegetation control to ensure the safety of our power lines. However, due to climate change, trees are growing faster than before. Yesterday, we experienced heavy snowfall, which was seven to ten times heavier than the average snowfall in the past 106 years. We will continue to intensify our efforts to manage vegetation and address these challenges.

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There is concern over the increase in wildfires and the lack of people in rural areas. The speaker questions why there are fires and blames the abandonment of these areas. They criticize the new management approach, which restricts activities like tree cutting and planting. The speaker argues that in the past, when people lived in these areas and took care of the forests, there were no problems. Now, with the cost of firefighting and the reliance on taxes to pay for it, the speaker questions the effectiveness of the current approach. They also mention the excessive bureaucracy and restrictions in the country, which they believe contribute to the current issues of drought and wildfires.

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Vegetation management is a mutual priority. It's important to recognize the changing climate and its effects on forests, and to work together using science. Ignoring climate science and focusing solely on vegetation management will not succeed in protecting Californians. The speaker believes it will start getting cooler, but acknowledges that science may not agree or know.

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So I think one area of mutual agreement and priority is vegetation management. But I think we wanna work with you to really recognize the changing climate and what it means to our forest and actually work together with that science. That science is gonna be key. Because if we if we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation management, we're not going to succeed together protecting Californians. K. It'll start getting cooler. I wish You you just watch. I wish science agreed with you. Hey. Well, I don't think science knows, actually.

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Vegetation management is a shared priority, but we need to consider the changing climate and its impact on our forests. Collaborating with scientific insights is crucial; ignoring them will hinder our efforts to protect Californians. While some may hope for cooler temperatures, it's essential to rely on science for understanding these changes.

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There is a significant water issue despite no drought, as water is being diverted to protect a small fish species. This water, which flows naturally from Canada, could be used to benefit the land and forests, which are currently dry and at risk. The lack of water contributes to the high costs of forest fires, amounting to billions annually. Additionally, environmental regulations prevent proper forest management, such as raking and clearing debris. Simple maintenance could reduce fire hazards and improve forest health.

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There’s a growing frequency of extreme weather events, like the 100 mph winds in Southern California, which should not have caught us off guard. We’ve known since 2018 that such occurrences are becoming more common. Insurance companies were already pulling fire coverage from homes in the area months before this event. In the past 70 years, timber harvests in California dropped by 75%, leaving behind 163 million dead trees. Regulatory policies like the California Environmental Quality Act hindered local governments from clearing this vegetation. Multiple bills aimed at wildfire prevention were either rejected or vetoed, including those to bury power lines. This disconnect between the increasing risk of wildfires and the lack of legislative action reflects severe negligence and incompetence.

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Vegetation management is a mutual priority. It's important to recognize the changing climate and its impact on forests, using science as a key tool. Ignoring climate science and focusing solely on vegetation management will hinder the protection of Californians. One speaker believes it will start getting cooler, but another speaker wishes science agreed with that statement. The second speaker does not think science knows.

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We must take responsibility for our own safety regarding fire risks. In Sonoma County, we've observed patterns indicating potential fires, such as low humidity and strong winds. Residents in areas like Santa Monica and Malibu should stay vigilant and support each other. Recently, humidity levels dropped to alarming lows, contributing to fire hazards. Additionally, smoke exposure is causing health issues, including lung diseases and cancers. The chemicals used for fire retardation are harmful to both humans and animals. It's crucial to keep pets indoors during fire threats and not let them roam freely. Lastly, it's important to be honest with children about the dangers they face, as they need to be prepared for the realities of their environment.

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Last night, I evacuated my home in LA due to wildfires, prompting me to reflect on a conversation between Joe Rogan and Donald Trump about wildfire management in California. Trump highlighted two issues: water management and forest maintenance. In 2023, California's policies led to the diversion of 195.5 billion gallons of water into the ocean to protect the Delta smelt, while forests remain overgrown with dead trees. A study found 91.4 million dead trees across California, which environmental policies have prevented from being cleared, contributing to devastating fires. Misguided environmental protections often harm both human lives and the very species they aim to protect. California's government struggles with ineffective policies, leading to increased homelessness and inadequate crisis response. While grateful for government support, it's clear improvements are necessary.

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We agree on the importance of vegetation management, but we need to consider the changing climate and its impact on our forests. Collaborating with science is essential; ignoring it will hinder our efforts to protect Californians. While some may believe temperatures will cool, we must rely on scientific evidence to guide our actions.

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The speaker discusses the urgency of addressing global climate change and the need for action in Hawaii. They believe that by leading by example and showcasing the pain and suffering caused by climate change, they can make a strong case to a broad international audience. The speaker mentions the importance of smart cities and fire mitigation efforts. The conversation is interrupted and the transcript ends abruptly.

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Vegetation management is considered a mutual priority. It's important to recognize the changing climate and its effects on forests, and to work together using science. Ignoring the science and believing vegetation management is the only solution will not succeed in protecting Californians. It was asserted that it will start getting cooler. The speaker wished science agreed with them, but then stated that science doesn't actually know.

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Smart legislatures and governments should invest in fire mitigation to protect communities.

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Vegetation management is a mutual priority. Working together, recognizing the changing climate and its impact on forests, is important. Science will be key to this effort. Ignoring the science and believing vegetation management is the only solution will not protect Californians. It will start getting cooler. Science doesn't know.

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Climate change is the biggest threat to the world. Time is running out, and this is a fact. Finally, everyone in America is acknowledging it.

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Lee Zeldin: Jasmine Crockett's Epstein Claim, Trump Meets Mamdani + Cloud Seeding Is REAL! | PBD 687
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The episode features Patrick Bet-David interviewing Lee Zeldin, focusing on a rapid-fire round of current events and policy questions driving political headlines. The conversation opens with a reaction to Jasmine Crockett’s Epstein donation claim, clarifying that Zeldin did not receive money from the infamous financier, and highlighting the importance of accurate FEC records and due diligence when campaigns are scrutinized in real time. The hosts dissect Crockett’s defense, the timing of a donation supposedly made by a “Dr. Jeffrey Epstein,” and the broader implications for political narratives, media scrutiny, and the responsibilities of opponents to verify donors before making allegations public. The discussion quickly broadens beyond the Epstein episode to Zeldin’s role as EPA administrator, his past gubernatorial bid in New York, and the administrative priorities of deregulation and streamlining permits, especially in crisis situations like wildfires in California. The pair examine President Trump’s influence on major urban centers, the potential meeting between Trump and Mamdani in New York, and the political calculus behind optics versus policy when a new mayor enters the White House scene. The episode transitions into national economic and energy policy, with debates on affordability, the housing market, and the impact of federal investment on growth, jobs, and how energy policy could shape competitive advantages for the United States. A substantial portion is devoted to the EPA’s agenda under President Trump, including deregulation efforts, budgetary savings, and the four pillars of powering the great American comeback, such as clean air and energy dominance, coupled with cooperative federalism and focused regulatory reform. The dialogue also covers climate and environmental management in California, wildfire response, forest management, and the role of the EPA in accelerating permits, improving prescribed burns, and addressing exceptional events without sacrificing air quality. The conversation closes with reflections on how to engage younger conservatives, the evolving role of media and podcasts in political persuasion, and practical steps for balancing environmental stewardship with economic growth. The episode touches on media literacy in politics, the potential future of New York City’s leadership under Manny, and the broader debate about how to manage climate policy, infrastructure, and national energy goals in a way that resonates with voters across the political spectrum.
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