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Some people in the movement claim Bobby has been bought out. One speaker knows Bobby understands the dangers of the HPV Gardasil shot and what happened to their son. However, Bobby can't say "no more vaccines" due to some protocol. Bobby stated from the beginning that there are problems with vaccines, they're poorly studied, and real data is needed, but he won't take vaccines away. Vaccines have become a religion, with people saying "I believe in vaccines," but science is based on observation and evidence, not belief. The vaccination program has become a secular religion. Bobby is presenting evidence to show that vaccination shouldn't be a religion. Once the truth is out there, no parent in their right mind will continue with vaccines, but the evidence isn't out there yet.

The speaker admits they once believed vaccines were one of humanity's most important inventions, citing polio and smallpox eradication. However, after reading Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s book and "Turtles All the Way Down," their views shifted. The speaker notes the existence of another book with the same title and nearly identical cover that promotes vaccines, which they see as a deliberate attempt to confuse people. They initially dismissed RFK Jr. as an "anti-vaccine kook" based on a casual narrative, but now regrets that judgment after reading his book and speaking with him. They admit to succumbing to the common perception of RFK Jr. as someone with a weird voice who is ruining the world's immunity.

Speaker 0 ties Operation Warp Speed to Pfizer. "They're doing a huge investment into bringing more drugs into America and also coming up with a vaccine that's to solve cancer." He states, "vaccination is the cause of cancer. I never saw a case of cancer in an unvaccinated person." He adds that people "died suddenly after taking the vaccines and boosters," and that "during 1986, government decided to put an act in to protect Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, and all these companies from lawsuits." He alleges the military as test subjects: "Soldiers disabled and killed by vaccinations, April. No wounds, no damages, no shots, just vaccines." He recalls 1885: "Vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate. There's money in it. Money in the side effects." He asks, "See those people holding down that person and vaccinating them?" Mentions Murder by Injection and The Poison Needle. Speaker 1: "No, I'm a big believer in vaccines. Polio vaccine. Big, big believer in vaccines."

The speaker expresses admiration for Bobby and his views on vaccines and the environment. Bobby's book, "The Real Anthony Fauci," is praised for revealing disturbing truths. Bobby's environmental work, including cleaning up the Hudson River, is highlighted. Bobby suggests that poor health outcomes during the pandemic are linked to diet-related chronic diseases like diabetes and obesity, which are profitable for the medical industry. Bobby's critical stance on the influence of money in healthcare is emphasized.

Speaker 0 frames the issue as 'the corruption of science' and the 'capture of the agencies' by pharmaceutical industries, stating the goal is to restore integrity and credibility to science. Speaker 1 cites a CDC internal study: 'black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two hundred and sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited.' He adds that 'The chief chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior said vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact.' Finally, he asserts, 'So, you know that story. And you know of hundreds of stories like that. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies, and we're gonna change that right now.'

All of this cannot be true. Are you lying to Congress about being pro-vaccine, or did you lie on those podcasts? We have it all on tape. Senator, that statement from the Lex Fridman podcast has been debunked. I was asked if there are safe and effective vaccines, and I said some live virus vaccines are. I also stated that no vaccine is universally safe and effective, as every medicine has individuals who may react negatively, including vaccines. I was interrupted before I could elaborate. I've clarified this multiple times, including on national TV, so bringing it up now is misleading.

The speaker, identifying as a left-leaning hippie Texan, questions the criticism Bobby Kennedy Jr. received for encouraging skepticism about the rushed COVID vaccines. The speaker wonders if Kennedy was right.

I serve on the FDA's vaccine advisory committee because I don't have relationships with pharmaceutical companies, as that would be a conflict of interest. I actually agree with some of the things my counterpart says, such as we are too obese as a country, and we overmedicate our children. I wrote a book about this called Overkill When Modern Medicine Goes Too Far. However, I don't agree with claims that vaccines are harmful, as has been said. RFK Jr. continues to claim that vaccines cause autism, which is untrue, and he's now targeting childhood vaccines, which will only hurt children.

The speaker raises concerns about measles and the criticisms directed at Bobby regarding vaccination. Bobby is questioned about the apparent contradiction of advocating for measles vaccination now, while allegedly not doing so during COVID. This perceived inconsistency is cited as a reason for vaccine hesitancy. The speaker asks Bobby to address this issue and consider his responsibility in influencing public sentiment towards vaccination.

The speaker, identifying as a left-leaning hippie Texan, questions the criticism Bobby Kennedy Jr. received for encouraging skepticism about the rushed COVID vaccines. The speaker wonders if Kennedy was right.

In 2016 and again in March 2017 at the White House, the speaker met with someone who considered forming a commission to investigate the potential negative effects of vaccines. This individual was being advised by Robert Kennedy, Jr., who claimed vaccines were causing harm. The speaker advised against this course of action, stating that it would be a mistake.

I support focusing on issues like obesity and overmedicating children. Bobby Kennedy is fighting against the incentive for pharma to profit from sick children. Hospitals benefit from full beds, and chronic disease is good for the health industry's economics. I'm lobbying for SNAP bills to remove soda, highlighting a conflict where public health may not prioritize children's interests. When the data doesn't support their argument, RFK Jr. resorts to personal attacks. My Merck chair is defined by Penn, with no obligations. This is a tactic used when the science doesn't support anti-vaccine claims. The science continually proves he's wrong about vaccines.

The speaker criticizes Mr. Kennedy for spreading disinformation about COVID vaccines. They mention an incident where Kennedy used unvetted data from VARs to claim that vaccines were killing people, leading to vaccine hesitancy and unnecessary deaths. The speaker calls this science denial and questions Kennedy's credibility. In response, Kennedy argues that VARs is an unreliable system for reporting vaccine adverse events due to voluntary reporting. He claims that CDC's own studies show that VARs undercounts vaccine injuries by a hundredfold. Kennedy also mentions a Harvard study that developed a more accurate system, but CDC allegedly shut it down and refused to address the issue. Kennedy questions why CDC doesn't have a better system in place.

Speaker 0 argues that the AIDS virus, like COVID and monkeypox, was manufactured for a specific reason, and claims that all of these were produced by the United States government. They state that AZT, “the total numbers of [people] … killed by taking a drug that was known at the time that was going to actually have that kind of an effect,” contributed to mass deaths, and that buyers clubs emerged as a form of a black market to obtain treatments. They compare this to the situation with COVID, noting that obtaining ivermectin felt like buying on the black market, despite ivermectin having won a health Nobel prize years ago, and they describe the ongoing insanity of government actors who have not yet been held accountable. They reference history involving Ted Kennedy and his uncle, suggesting a broader pattern of government activity linked to disease manufacturing and drug development that purportedly does not help, paralleling the vaccines “that we have now learned.” The speaker shares a personal update about a friend who recently underwent surgery and is now facing extubation after three bypasses, describing him as a healthy man who should not be having these problems, and likening his situation to other cases they know of. The speaker claims to know “about six” people who were fully vaccinated due to job or other requirements and who have since died, using these experiences to illustrate perceived consequences of vaccination programs. They pivot to Anthony Fauci, asserting that Fauci’s involvement in government actions spans “twenty five, thirty five years,” and claims Fauci has been involved in nefarious acts that have resulted in the deaths of many people. They reference Bobby Kennedy describing the creation of a drug that allegedly caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men through AIDS. The speaker concludes with a pointed remark about AIDS and gay people, insisting that “nobody deserves that kind of a fate,” emphasizing that the tragedies described apply to all affected groups, and reiterating the belief that the government and officials have engaged in harmful, deadly activities related to disease and treatment.

The speaker, identifying as a left-leaning hippie Texan, questions the criticism Bobby Kennedy Jr. received for encouraging skepticism about the rushed COVID vaccines. The speaker wonders if Kennedy was right.

The speaker raises the issue of measles and the controversy surrounding vaccines, noting that the guest, Bobby, has faced criticism for his current pro-vaccination stance, especially in light of his messaging during COVID. The speaker asks Bobby to address the criticism that his previous statements have contributed to vaccine hesitancy and to discuss his responsibility in influencing public sentiment towards vaccination.

There is a discussion about how public trust in vaccination has changed since the pandemic. The speaker notes that years ago there were “five people in the world who were prepared to talk about the thorny issue of vaccination.” Post COVID, however, “half the adult population of the world are now saying, hold on, we don't trust you. You lied to us. It's not what you told us, safe and effective.” This skepticism extends to vaccines given to children, with the question, “Does this apply to all the other vaccines you're putting into my kids?” The speaker then asserts that “safety studies haven't been done,” suggesting that important research behind vaccines is incomplete or lacking. This leads to the claim that “they've created this mess for themselves.” Despite the frustration, the speaker emphasizes the moral weight of deception, stating, “it's really tough to lie. I mean, lying gets you into real trouble.”

I want everyone to be honest about lies told to gain power. For example, a candidate might deny knowing about Project 2025, then immediately implement it upon taking office, even appointing its architect to the OMB. This deception ultimately harms all Americans. I'm experiencing the consequences of these lies firsthand. In Texas, we're seeing a measles outbreak because disinformation about vaccines has led parents to distrust doctors, leaving children vulnerable to preventable diseases. People are trusting random people online instead of experts, and it is costing them dearly.

People dismiss this guy because of his voice, it's hard to listen to sometimes. The condition he has, you would think there'd be some way to address it. He believes that the condition came from a side effect of the flu vaccine, which he used to take every year. So he believes it's a vaccine injury, which is very ironic. Those things don't work either. Even if it protects you from that one flu, it makes you many times more likely to catch other things. We're messing around with complex systems inside human bodies with pharmaceutical drugs. The way they've studied them is filled with shenanigans.

I support discussing issues like obesity and overmedicating children. Bobby Kennedy is fighting against the incentive for pharma to profit from sick children, and he's supporting efforts to remove soda from SNAP. The problem is that organizations like Merck don't have children's best interests at heart, considering their history of criminal penalties for misleading information. When the data isn't on their side, RFK Jr. and personal injury lawyers attack the person. My Merck chair is defined by Penn, and there's no quid pro quo. The science continually proves RFK Jr. wrong about vaccines.

Speaker 0 initially considered people like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. "crazy anti-vaxxers." Invited to a church event in Murrieta, California, to hear Kennedy speak, the speaker admitted to Kennedy that they were trying to determine if he was "a crazy anti vaxxer." After listening to Kennedy's presentation on vaccines and injuries, the speaker felt regret for having fully vaccinated their children. This experience led the speaker to begin reading vaccine package inserts, something they had never done before due to their complexity. Upon examining these inserts and the studies included, the speaker concluded that the studies were flawed and the benefits of the products were minimal. The speaker claims this applies to both vaccines and drugs.

We're hoping Bobby Kennedy and others can help push back against the nonsense we've been dealing with. He's a man on a mission, standing up for important things, even when it hurts him. I used to think he was a kook. I bought into the propaganda, thinking he was anti-science and a conspiracy theorist. Then I read his book and realized it was legitimate. Why wasn't he being sued if he was lying, especially about Anthony Fauci during the AIDS crisis? Fauci pushed AZT, a toxic and ineffective drug, and it killed people I knew. He did some extraordinarily evil stuff. He was basically the villain in Dallas Buyers Club, pushing AZT. Magic Johnson was on AZT and it was killing him, but he got off it and is still alive today. It's a shame someone like Fauci had so much power for so long and was such a monster.

Bobby Kennedy has been nominated by President Trump for the position of Secretary of Health and Human Services. His opponents are attempting to discredit him by falsely claiming he wants to eliminate the polio vaccine. The truth is that a petition was filed questioning the safety of one specific polio vaccine, which was licensed based on inadequate clinical trials. The petition aimed to require a proper review, not to eliminate access to the vaccine. Additionally, the conversation touches on the broader issues of vaccine safety, the conflicts of interest in health agencies, and the increasing chronic health conditions in children. Kennedy's commitment to transparency and public health reform is emphasized, highlighting the need for change in the current healthcare system.

The speaker, recently retired from a local hospital, claims widespread disbelief in flu shots among colleagues due to data issues, stating "the efficacy and I won't give you data. You created the data. Ten percent one year, eighteen percent the next, forty percent at best." They describe the flu vaccine given to children aged two to eight for nearly four years as ineffective, with a claimed three percent efficacy at times. The speaker contrasts this with their hospital experience, where doctors, nurses, medical assistants, patient care, and lab staff did not believe in the flu shot, until mandates and recommendations arrived. They express relief at retirement, saying their soul was sick about what they witnessed, and that conflicts of interest prevented them from speaking out while employed. They recount working on high-volume ER days with about 300 flu cases daily and claim they never contracted the flu, attributing this to personal practices: washing hands, taking vitamin D, and using a berry syrup. The speaker criticizes the shift from physicians and nurses to pharmacists administering the vaccine, accuses the system of bribing people with Target gift cards and marketing the vaccine as free, and denounces scare tactics. They observe an increase in vaccination across generations, noting "some of you are my age," with their generation having seven shots, their daughter ten, her son around sixty, and their new grandson expected to receive seventy-two vaccines, expressing shock at this escalation. The speaker references Robert F. Kennedy Jr., saying he fights for them and goes to court for kids who suffered, noting that Kennedy's family started Special Olympics. They claim that in Kennedy’s view, autism linked to vaccines is evident since there were no autistic kids in the past four decades, and allege that vaccines have caused autism. They describe watching a perfectly healthy two-year-old become a "severe autistic child" after vaccination, expressing certainty that autism exists because of vaccines. They forecast their 10-year-old grandson becoming an adult who, at age 40, would be walking in the mall with a diaper and a helmet. The speaker ends by thanking studies they claim are not done and reiterates their stance against vaccines, including autism implications, as presented in the narrative.

I really hope Bobby can do some good things because he cares deeply and has stood up for important issues, even when it hurt him. I used to believe the propaganda against him, thinking he was just an anti-science nut. But after reading his book, I realized it was real. If it wasn't, he would have been sued. The book blew my mind with information about how Fauci got principal investigators from respectable colleges onto committees that chose AZT, a highly toxic and ineffective drug, as the treatment. They started using that, and I don't know how many people that killed. Fauci did some extraordinarily evil stuff and he knows what he did.