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Many of the U.S.-funded administrations’ biolabs conducted or continue to conduct research with dangerous pathogens, including so-called gain-of-function experiments, with virtually no control or oversight. Speaker 1 cites new evidence that biolabs on Ukrainian territory were funded and rebuilt using federal budget funds from the United States. This is said to be reflected in a published press release by the U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which includes a map of biolabs in Ukraine. The documents list facilities in Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Lviv, Vinnytsia, Ternopil, Chernihiv, and “Addes.” Speaker 1 emphasizes that studies of plague agents, anthrax, tularemia, and Marburg and Ebola fevers were conducted there. Speaker 1 also states that previously identified locations of deployment and directions of research activity by the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs are currently confirmed by materials from U.S. national intelligence. According to Speaker 1, the legal basis for organizing these studies was a cooperation agreement on preventing the spread of pathogens, technologies, and knowledge that could be used in the development of biological weapons—dated 2005—between the U.S. military department and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine. Speaker 1 adds that coordination of the work was carried out by the Office for Threat Reduction of the U.S. Department of Defense, and that the research was carried out under special secrecy, with restrictions on Ukrainian specialists’ access to information and premises.

The discussion centers on U.S. involvement in biological research in Ukraine amidst accusations from Russia. A U.S. official claimed that any biological or chemical weapon incidents would be attributed to Russia, which has been accused of using disinformation tactics. The conversation reveals that the U.S. has funded biological laboratories in Ukraine, which study dangerous pathogens. Despite denials from U.S. officials about developing biological weapons, there are concerns about the security of these materials in a conflict zone. The Chinese government has called for inspections of these facilities, highlighting international concerns about biological safety. The need for transparency and accountability regarding U.S. actions in Ukraine is emphasized, as the situation remains precarious.

In Ukraine, there were military biological programs experimenting with deadly pathogens like coronavirus, anthrax, cholera, and African pig plague. They are now trying to hide the evidence, but we believe they were creating components for a biological weapon. This poses a direct threat to Russia's safety. Ukraine and their US supporters rejected these claims, but their actions were bold and brazen.

Speaker 0 argues that anyone can file a complaint with a law enforcement authority for murder conspiracy and demand arrests and prosecutions. He points to a 2013 press release claiming that DARPA awarded Moderna Therapeutics up to $25,000,000 to develop messenger RNA therapeutics, noting that DARPA is the Pentagon and claiming the Pentagon bought, paid for, and envisioned these mRNA shots. He contends Fort Detrick was involved in developing COVID-19 at the UNC BSL-3 and asserts the Pentagon is on both sides of the argument, developing the weapon and the alleged vaccines. Speaker 1 asks whether there is any liability shield for deploying a biowarfare weapon and whether the narrative about congressional liability for Pfizer is a SIOP. Speaker 0 agrees that civil liability is separate from criminal liability, stating in his book Resisting Medical Tyranny that executives at companies developing these mRNA shots are guilty of murder and conspiracy to commit murder. He cites a Portugal report claiming that upwards of 300,000 Americans had been murdered by the mRNA Franken shots and invokes the JAB resolution, describing it as a Nuremberg crime against humanity and a violation of the Nuremberg Code. He defines a Nuremberg crime against humanity as murder, extermination, and other inhumane acts committed against civilians. Speaker 1 asks about liability for government officials who approved the vaccines. Speaker 0 says FDA officials who approved the shots could be indicted for murder and conspiracy to commit murder, noting the FDA’s involvement in developing COVID-19 as an offensive biological warfare weapon at UNC BSL-3, including a cited contract listing National Center for Toxicological Research and FDA as contributors. He claims the FDA, which approves the vaccines, was involved in this development. Speaker 1 questions the CDC and media accountability, noting the CDC’s recommendation of the vaccines and media promotion of boosters. Speaker 0 says the CDC, including Director Milensky (appointed by Biden, from Harvard Medical School), is complicit, and claims the CDC has a history dating back to the Reagan administration of handling offensive biological warfare projects, including shipping weaponized agents to Saddam Hussein with implications for U.S. troops after Gulf War I. Speaker 1 asks whether there are lawmakers with intel on gain-of-function biowarfare. Speaker 0 mentions Senator Rand Paul as having a strong understanding, but asserts that some lawmakers were threatened and obstructed after consulting him, recounting an experience with Walter Jones of the House Armed Services Committee who briefly engaged but then did not follow up, implying threats prevented action. Speaker 1 asks how citizens should respond, and Speaker 0 advocates reporting to sheriffs, district attorneys, and state attorneys, noting progress with a Collier County health freedom declaration. They discuss enforcement mechanisms, seizure, and incineration of stockpiles, and trial and sentencing for those responsible. Speaker 0 condemns China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology as a bioweapons lab, alleging it was a Chinese counterpart to Fort Detrick, with the Chinese president seeking his own BSL-4 program and an offensive biowarfare arsenal. Speaker 1 notes U.S. funding and international bioweapons labs, including Ukraine and Taiwan, and ends by referencing Lindsey Graham and a speaker labeled as a professor Boyle.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine researching dangerous pathogens. As Ukraine is an active war zone, these labs could be compromised, releasing deadly pathogens that know no borders. To protect people worldwide, these labs must be shut down immediately, and their pathogens destroyed. The Biden-Harris administration should work with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire near these labs until they're secured and the pathogens are destroyed. The US funds around 300 biolabs globally, some engaging in risky gain-of-function research, similar to the Wuhan lab. These labs should have been shut down two years ago. This isn't a partisan issue; the administration and Congress must act now for global health and well-being.

The speaker is working with Jay Bhattacharya and Secretary Kennedy to investigate US-funded gain of function research, including at the Wuhan lab, which they believe may have led to the COVID-19 pandemic. They aim to provide evidence linking this research to the pandemic. The speaker claims Anthony Fauci denied this research under oath and may have sought a preemptive pardon. They argue that gain of function research continues in biolabs worldwide, posing a risk of future pandemics. The speaker faced criticism for warning about US-funded biolabs in Ukraine. The speaker questions why the intelligence community was reluctant to conclude that COVID-19 originated in a lab, contrasting this with instances where they quickly make assumptions without conclusive evidence. They attribute this to the politicization of intelligence, citing the Iraq War as an example of intelligence being used to influence policy.

Over a year ago, we knew about the biolabs, their experiments, and related documents. It started in 2005 with the Defense Intelligence Agency, which created the Global Viral Forecasting Institute with Nathaniel Wolf, later Meta Biota. Rosemont Fonseca, an investment firm headed by Hunter Biden, Christopher Hines, and Paul Pelosi Jr., funded Meta Biota. This is a corrupt operation developed over the last decade to generate biological warfare against the Russians. They've been collecting DNA from Slavic people. General Igor Krylyov exposed this as a war crime because it violates the biological weapons agreement. America's 30 biolabs in Ukraine experimented on animal-to-human transmission, which is the origin of COVID-19. The research conducted in Ukraine will be directly connected to COVID-19. The United States created and opened this Pandora's box.

Four days ago, I wouldn't have believed the Biden administration was funding secret biolabs in Ukraine, but Under Secretary of State Nuland confirmed their existence during a Senate hearing. Despite fact-checks dismissing it as Russian disinformation, these labs are real, and Nuland expressed concern about their contents falling into Russian hands. The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the labs were developing military biological programs with US funding, possibly involving deadly pathogens like plague and anthrax. The US embassy in Ukraine has a web page explaining that American and Ukrainian scientists have worked on a whole bunch of different experiments like this. The US government is downplaying the situation, with the Pentagon calling Russian accusations "absurd."

The Chinese State Council Information Office claims COVID originated in the U.S. A special team is investigating COVID's origins, with findings on covid.gov. Work is being done with Jay Bhattacharya and Secretary Kennedy, looking at U.S. funded gain of function research at the Wuhan lab and other biolabs, which has led to health crises. The goal is to find the specific link between gain of function research and COVID-19. If Peter Daszak's research with the Wuhan lab caused the pandemic, then the U.S. funded it, and Anthony Fauci denied it under oath. Gain of function research is ongoing in biolabs worldwide, like in Ukraine. Warning against U.S. funded biolabs in Ukraine led to accusations of being a Russian asset. The intelligence community was reluctant to say COVID came from a lab, possibly due to the politicization of intelligence. This politicization dates back to intelligence used to justify the Iraq regime change war.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine conducting research on dangerous pathogens. Given the ongoing war, these facilities are at risk of being compromised, potentially leading to the spread of deadly pathogens across Europe and beyond. To protect global health, these labs must be shut down immediately, and the pathogens destroyed. The Biden administration should collaborate with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to establish a ceasefire around these labs until they are secured. Additionally, the US funds approximately 300 biolabs worldwide that are also engaged in similar research.

The speakers discuss the possibility of the COVID-19 virus originating from a lab leak rather than bats. Speaker 1 brings up American labs in Ukraine and questions their purpose. Speaker 2 mentions that Ukraine has biological research facilities, which they are concerned about falling into the hands of Russian forces. Speaker 1 suggests that the existence of these labs was buried and wonders if they were involved in creating anthrax or other unknown substances. Speaker 0 admits to not having knowledge about this topic.

After months of searching through intelligence community holdings and files, Speaker 0 released new evidence of longstanding US government funding of more than 120 biolabs in over 30 countries, including labs in Ukraine that could be at risk of compromise due to the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war. Speaker 0 said the intelligence community previously warned that a US-funded biolab in Ukraine likely housed dangerous pathogens and remained vulnerable to longstanding threats of Russian attack, seizure, or damage. Speaker 0 claimed that evidence about the full existence and funding of these laboratories had been knowingly withheld from the American people. Speaker 0 said many of these US government-funded biolabs are currently or have previously engaged in research using hazardous and highly contagious pathogens, and in some cases included dangerous gain-of-function research, with very little visibility or oversight. Speaker 0 stated that President Trump “clearly understands” the threat posed by dangerous gain-of-function research and said that on May 25, 2025, he signed an executive order to end federal funding of gain-of-function research around the world. Speaker 0 said that at ODNI, new guidance had been issued directing the intelligence community to increase collection on these laboratories and facilities overseas, and that new details were already being learned, including clinical trials underway at these facilities that are raising ethical, financial, and security concerns about supposed public health initiatives and US national security. Speaker 0 also claimed that politicians and health professionals, including Dr. Fauci, along with entities within the Biden administration’s national security team, repeatedly lied to the American people about the existence of US-funded and supported biolabs, and threatened those who attempted to expose the truth. Speaker 0 said the release breaks new ground because information about the existence, history, locations, and funding of these US-funded biolabs had been intentionally covered up by powerful people who falsely claimed the biolabs did not exist. Speaker 0 said that people who say otherwise are accused of being foreign assets and traitors to America. Speaker 0 concluded by saying ODNI will continue working with US government partners to identify exactly where the labs are and what pathogens they contain to end dangerous gain-of-function research threatening the health and wellbeing of the American people and people around the world.

We were aware of the biolabs and their experiments over a year ago, tracing back to 2005 with the Defense Intelligence Agency's creation of the Global Viral Forecasting Institute, linked to Nathaniel Wolf. This evolved into Meta Biota, funded by Rosemont Fonseca, associated with Hunter Biden, Christopher Hines, and Paul Pelosi Jr. This network suggests a corrupt operation under the Obama and Biden administrations aimed at developing biological warfare against Russia, including collecting DNA from Slavic populations. General Igor Krylyov has revealed evidence of war crimes, indicating that the U.S. operated 30 bio labs in Ukraine, conducting experiments related to animal-to-human transmission, which connects to the origins of COVID-19. This research exposes significant violations of international agreements on biological and chemical weapons.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine conducting research on dangerous pathogens in an active war zone. The risk of these labs being compromised is high, which could lead to the spread of deadly pathogens across Europe and the world. To protect global health, these labs should be shut down immediately, and their pathogens destroyed. The Biden administration should collaborate with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to establish a ceasefire around these facilities until they are secured. Additionally, the US funds around 300 biolabs worldwide engaged in similar risky research. Given the potential dangers, these labs should have been closed two years ago. This issue transcends partisan politics; immediate action is necessary for the safety of all people.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded bio labs in Ukraine researching dangerous pathogens, according to the US government. Because Ukraine is an active war zone, these labs could be compromised, releasing deadly pathogens that know no borders. If breached, these pathogens could spread throughout Europe, the United States, and the rest of the world, causing suffering and death. To protect people, these labs need to be shut down immediately, and the pathogens they hold need to be destroyed. The Biden-Harris administration needs to work with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire for military action near these labs until they are secured and the pathogens destroyed. The US funds around 300 bio labs around the world.

The speaker discusses gain-of-function research, claiming that the purpose of taking a wild virus and making it more pathogenic is to develop a vaccine for those enhanced viruses, and that the real rationale is to develop bioweapons and then a defense to those bioweapons. They assert that Anthony Fauci received a 68% raise by the military because of these new military responsibilities and continued the work through 2014. The speaker states that in 2014 three of the bugs escaped in high-profile incidents from three different U.S. labs, describing these as really deadly bugs that escaped or were found in unsafe circumstances. They claim that 300 scientists sent a letter to President Obama asking him to shut down Fauci’s gain-of-function research, arguing that it was highly likely to start a global pandemic with this dangerous research. According to the speaker, Obama issued a moratorium and shut down 18 of Fauci’s worst projects, but ultimately did not fully shut them down. Instead, the research was moved offshore to avoid White House scrutiny and the Cambridge Working Group, a group of scientists, as well as other officials. The speaker alleges that the major offshore location for this research included a Chinese lab run by the Chinese military, specifically naming the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China, as part of the moved research, with other work relocated to Ukraine and the former Soviet state of Georgia.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded bio labs in Ukraine researching dangerous pathogens. Because Ukraine is an active war zone, these labs could be compromised, releasing deadly pathogens that know no borders. If breached, these pathogens could spread throughout Europe, the United States, and the rest of the world, causing suffering and death. To protect people, these labs need to be shut down immediately, and the pathogens they hold need to be destroyed. The Biden-Harris administration needs to work with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire for military action near these labs until they are secured and the pathogens are destroyed. The US also funds around 300 bio labs around the world.

Ukraine has biological research facilities that they are concerned Russian forces may try to gain control of. They are working with Ukraine to prevent any research materials from falling into Russian hands. Russian propaganda groups are spreading information about a Ukrainian plot to release biological weapons, but there is no doubt in the speaker's mind that if there is an incident, it would be the Russians behind it. The Russians have a history of blaming others for their own plans.

COVID-19 had telltale signs of being made in a laboratory from the beginning. The CIA has stated the virus came from a lab, but what they didn't say is that it was almost surely made in a US laboratory, possibly at the University of North Carolina, and may have been tested in a Chinese laboratory. The Biden administration hid this. One theory is that US scientists wanted to test the virus on a specific bat population in the Wuhan facility. The FBI should crack the case, as it is an inside US job. The University of North Carolina is withholding 2019 emails and fighting to keep them from public scrutiny. There is reason to believe that Tony Fauci funded reckless, dangerous research that went awry.

There are US biolabs in Ukraine that are developing bio weapons using synthetic biology, CRISPR technology, and genetic engineering. The Pentagon transferred the authority for biosecurity to the National Institute for Infectious and Allergic Disease, run by Anthony Fauci, who received a 68% raise from the Pentagon for bioweapons development. Every bioweapon needs a vaccine, so they are developed side by side through gain of function science. In 2014, three dangerous microbes escaped from different labs in the US. President Obama signed a moratorium to shut down Anthony Fauci's experiments, but he shifted operations offshore, including to the Wuhan lab in China and Ukraine. Funding for these labs comes from various government agencies, with USAID being the largest funder.

The discussion centers on long-simmering claims about CIA programs from the mid-20th century and how those programs may have evolved into present-day operations, with a focus on secrecy, biowarfare, mind-control concepts, and weather- or environment-related tech. The participants reference recently republished unclassified CIA documents on Project Artichoke, described as a Cold War-era mind-control operation that involved injecting and using various drugs to control individuals. They connect Artichoke and MKUltra to a broader history of behavioral science programs, suggesting that the CIA has pursued mind-control and related technologies since its inception in 1947-1948, often under plausible deniability and without public accountability. The conversation broadens to contemporary concerns, notably CIA-linked biolabs in Ukraine. The speakers note that, during the Ukraine conflict, there were “CIA collaborative bioweapons labs scattered across Ukraine,” and that Victoria Nuland testified before Congress about such labs, implying that their existence is not new but ongoing. They recount an NBC News on-camera moment in Kyiv that was later understood to involve burning documents at a lab, rather than a Russian attack, as evidence of covert activity. The implication is that clandestine programs persist and have become more sophisticated than the original Artichoke/MKUltra programs. Dr. Merrill Nass describes the historical development of these programs, linking them to the post-World War II Paperclip era and the involvement of German scientists who worked on chemical warfare and mind control. He references attempts to create Manchurian candidates, multiple personality experimental concepts, and drug testing in various settings, including “safe houses” for blackmail and testing under extreme conditions. Nass also discusses Project SHAD (shipboard exposure of naval personnel to biological and chemical agents) and Operation White Coat (the Vietnam-era program using Seventh-day Adventists as human guinea pigs for chemical and biological testing). He notes the ethical and legal questions surrounding these programs, including cases where vaccines or illnesses were used in non-soldier populations and the long-term health effects. Kevin Ship, a CIA whistleblower who spent 17 years at the agency, emphasizes that the CIA has not changed its core goals or organizational behavior. He argues the CIA remains a “global juggernaut” with “billions of dollars” in off-the-books programs, continuing mind-control and behavioral science efforts, now employing more advanced technologies such as directed energy weapons and potentially telecommunication-like mechanisms (including insinuations about nanotech-based or electromagnetic methods). He maintains that the agency’s secrecy is so profound that it can operate independently of Congressional oversight or presidential intercession, with “upper level compartments” or an supra group within the CIA that conducts programs unknown to the President or Congress. The speakers discuss the possibility of modern-day applications, including “graphene oxide” or nanotech-based methods that could enable clandestine communication or “telepathy” for intelligence purposes, and weather-modification or geoengineering as a tool of strategic influence. They reference public figures such as John Brennan discussing strategic aerosol injection and geoengineering, which they present as evidence of the CIA’s ongoing interest in manipulating the environment for national security and warfare aims. The broader theme is that clandestine, off-the-books programs persist, adapt, and may operate under layers of compartmentalization that obscure their existence from public scrutiny. Towards the end, Nass highlights broader existential concerns beyond bioweapons, such as ecological disruptions, pollinator declines, insect and bird losses, and potential impacts on food security. He connects these concerns to possible geoengineering and electromagnetic field applications, suggesting that the combination of environmental manipulation and surveillance technologies could have far-reaching, harmful consequences for society. The conversation closes with references to the authors’ and speakers’ work: Nass’s Substack, Doortofreedom.org, and sofaf.org; Ship’s Twilight of the Shadow Government and his X (formerly Twitter) presence for ongoing updates.

There are 25 to 30 U.S. funded biolabs in Ukraine conducting research on dangerous pathogens. These labs could easily be compromised due to the ongoing war in the region, potentially releasing deadly pathogens that could spread worldwide. To protect people, these labs should be shut down immediately and the pathogens destroyed. The Biden Harris administration should collaborate with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire in the vicinity of these labs. Additionally, the U.S. funds around 300 biolabs worldwide, engaging in risky research similar to the Wuhan lab. These labs should have been closed two years ago. It is crucial for the administration and Congress to take action for the well-being of everyone.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine conducting research on dangerous pathogens amid an active war. These facilities are at risk of being compromised, potentially leading to the spread of deadly pathogens worldwide, similar to COVID-19. To protect global health, these labs must be shut down immediately, and the pathogens destroyed. The Biden administration should collaborate with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to establish a ceasefire around these labs until they are secured. Additionally, the US funds around 300 biolabs globally engaged in risky research. Given the vulnerabilities of these labs, they should have been shut down two years ago. This issue transcends partisan politics; immediate action is necessary for the safety of all people.

Russia released evidence linking Hunter Biden's investment fund to funding Ukrainian biolabs, where untested drugs were allegedly used on soldiers. The US is said to conduct such activities abroad due to legal restrictions at home. Ukraine's labs receive US funding for research on pathogens, but they are owned and operated by Ukraine and are part of a program to prevent deadly outbreaks. (Translation: Russia claims Hunter Biden's fund financed Ukrainian biolabs where untested drugs were used on soldiers. US conducts such activities abroad due to legal restrictions. Ukrainian labs receive US funding for pathogen research as part of outbreak prevention program.)

After months of searching through intelligence community holdings and files, Speaker 1 is releasing “new evidence” that the US government has funded more than 120 biolabs in over 30 countries, including locations such as Ukraine. Speaker 1 says the intelligence community previously warned that a US-funded biolab in Ukraine likely housed dangerous pathogens and remained vulnerable to longstanding threats of Russian attack, seizure, or damage. Speaker 1 also says evidence about the full existence and funding of these laboratories had been knowingly withheld from “the American people.” Speaker 1 claims many US government-funded biolabs have engaged in research using hazardous and highly contagious pathogens, and in some cases included dangerous gain-of-function research, with “very little visibility or oversight.” Speaker 1 states that President Trump “clearly understands” the threat posed by dangerous gain-of-function research and took action by signing an executive order on May 25, 2025 to end federal funding of gain-of-function research around the world. Speaker 1 further says that, at ODNI, they issued new guidance directing increased collection on overseas laboratories and facilities, and that increased collection is already producing new details, including clinical trials underway at these facilities that are raising “significant ethical, financial, and security concerns” about the supposed public health initiatives and US national security. Speaker 1 says politicians and “so-called health professionals like Dr. Fauci,” along with entities within the Biden administration’s national security team, “lied repeatedly” about the existence of US-funded and supported biolabs, and threatened those who attempted to expose the truth. Speaker 1 characterizes the release as breaking new ground because information about the existence, history, locations, and funding of the US-funded biolabs had been intentionally covered up by powerful people who claimed the biolabs didn’t exist. Speaker 1 adds that anyone who says otherwise is accused of being foreign assets and traitors to America. Speaker 1 concludes by saying ODNI and Speaker 1 will continue working with partners across the US government to identify exactly where these labs are and what pathogens they contain to end dangerous gain-of-function research that threatens the health and well-being of the American people and people around the world.