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I worked as a pediatrician and realized vaccines brought in significant income. Admin fees for vaccines were a major source of revenue, with bonuses for high vaccination rates. Quality measures focused on vaccination rates, not overall health. Pediatric practices heavily rely on vaccine income to stay afloat, leading to pressure to vaccinate despite potential harm.

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A child born in a US hospital receives pharmaceutical interventions, like erythromycin ointment and a hepatitis B vaccine, without informed consent. The ointment prevents chlamydial infections, though mothers are tested for chlamydia. The hepatitis B vaccine is for a sexually transmitted/IV drug user disease, which babies are not exposed to. There is a huge economic incentive to get more vaccines on the schedule because the government pays hundreds of millions of dollars for mandated products. Once approved, these vaccines are paid for everyone, and questioning them is discouraged by trusted institutions. YouTube will censor and demonetize videos that show skepticism of vaccine efficacy or need, even without directly attacking vaccines.

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"I don't know what happened in 1990. There was no plague that was killing children that we had tripled the amount of vaccines." "Happened after 1989? The vaccine schedule. Born to 26 more vaccines. Agreed. Are all of them absolutely necessary?" "They wanna make money." "It's twice as many as anywhere else in 30 countries in the Western world. But We give twice as many shots as any of those countries." "Should you educate yourself. We wanna empower parents to educate themselves. Do we need to have the chicken pox? Do we need the hepatitis b shot on the second day of life?" "I don't think we can afford to assume that the people who are charged with our public health any longer have our best interest at heart all the time."

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In 1985, millennials received a few vaccines. Today, children may receive up to 70 shots by age 18, including 27 before age 2, and up to 6 shots in one visit. The speaker asks if these shots are producing healthier kids, and claims the data says no. The speaker suggests that asking questions about the vaccine schedule is discouraged. Some parents who question the schedule may be reported to Child Protection Services or dismissed from their pediatrician's office. The speaker asserts that parents are being held hostage and did not sign up to co-parent with the government.

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In 1989, 10 shots were given as part of the vaccination schedule, twice as many as in other Western countries. The speaker questions why this is the case and encourages parents to educate themselves. They express concern about the motives of those in charge of public health and emphasize the importance of making informed decisions. The speaker also suggests that doctors may not be interested in learning more about vaccines due to financial influences from drug companies. They argue that vaccines are a profitable industry and that medical schools prioritize pharmaceuticals over prevention and nutrition. The speaker acknowledges the difficulty of convincing these institutions to prioritize children's well-being over profit.

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We need comprehensive double-blind, long-term placebo studies to properly evaluate vaccines. Vaccines work by tricking the immune system into thinking it has encountered a disease, which raises concerns given the rising autoimmune diseases we see today. Our immune systems appear confused, attacking our own bodies. While some may question whether environmental factors like air, food, or water are to blame, it's crucial to note that vaccines are specifically designed to manipulate the immune response. Unlike past vaccination schedules, children today receive numerous vaccines—up to 72 times—far exceeding what previous generations experienced. This trend is negatively impacting the health of our children, and we must address this issue urgently.

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A published article claims that 50% of most pediatricians' revenue comes from vaccines. Insurance companies like Blue Cross allegedly pay pediatricians bonuses if 95% of their clients are fully vaccinated, potentially worth tens of thousands of dollars. This bonus structure is claimed to incentivize pediatricians to prioritize vaccination rates over individual patient needs. As a result, pediatricians may dismiss patients who want to alter the standard vaccine schedule because they risk losing the bonus. These incentives are described as preventing doctors from practicing medicine and caring for clients due to a focus on the bottom line.

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Pediatricians may be incentivized to administer vaccines due to revenue structures. One article claims that 50% of pediatricians' revenue comes from vaccines. Insurance companies like Blue Cross allegedly pay bonuses to pediatricians who maintain a 95% vaccination rate among their clients. This bonus structure may disincentivize pediatricians from accommodating alternative vaccination schedules, potentially leading them to dismiss patients who request them. These incentives may prevent doctors from prioritizing patient care due to financial considerations. The speaker claims that twenty years ago, 20% of doctors worked for corporations, but now 80% do, and these corporations prioritize revenue over patient well-being.

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In 1989, 10 shots were given as part of the vaccine schedule. Compared to other Western countries, we give twice as many shots. The question is, do we really need all these vaccines? We should educate ourselves and make informed decisions as parents. We can't assume that those in charge of public health always have our best interests at heart. Some doctors seem hesitant to learn more about vaccines, which can save lives and prevent diseases. It's important to note that the pharmaceutical industry heavily influences medical schools and the American Academy of Pediatrics. Vaccines are a booming business, worth billions of dollars. We need doctors to prioritize prevention and overall health, even if it means taking a financial hit.

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In 1989, the US had a shot schedule with twice as many shots as other Western countries. Parents should educate themselves about vaccines and make informed decisions. Some doctors may not prioritize learning about vaccines due to financial ties to pharmaceutical companies. The pharmaceutical industry controls medical education, focusing on vaccines rather than prevention or nutrition. Asking doctors to prioritize children's health over profit is challenging.

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Why did the number of vaccines triple after 1989? Are all of them necessary, or is it about profit? The US gives twice as many shots as other Western countries. Parents should educate themselves, and decide what is absolutely necessary. Do we need the chicken pox vaccine, or the hepatitis B shot on the second day of life? We can't assume public health officials always have our best interests at heart. Parents need to make educated decisions and look at the information. Space out vaccines, delay them, and clean out the toxins. Why wouldn't doctors want to learn more about preventing disease? The AAP and medical schools are financed by drug companies, and vaccines are the fastest-growing part of the pharmaceutical industry, a 13 billion dollar business. We're asking them to take a loss for the good of our children, which is a tough sell.

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Vaccines may work for some in preventing diseases like measles, but they can also cause problems. Informed consent is important, so people should know all the possibilities, without influence from incentivized doctors. Some doctors may receive kickbacks for administering the full vaccine schedule. The number of vaccines is high; for example, 72 doses of 17 vaccines between birth and age 18. Many states mandate children receive 29 doses of nine vaccines to attend kindergarten, and multiple doses of 13 vaccines for daycare enrollment. The Hepatitis B vaccine, given on day one, is questioned, especially since it's for a sexually transmitted disease. The COVID vaccine is also considered unnecessary. Tetanus was misrepresented as dangerous. It is claimed that tetanus is not dangerous, and can be prevented by washing out an open wound.

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The speakers discuss the increased number of vaccines since 1990 and question if all are necessary. One speaker claims the US vaccine schedule includes twice as many shots as other Western countries. They suggest parents should educate themselves, space out or delay vaccines, and clean out toxins. One speaker believes public health officials may not always have people's best interests at heart. They claim the AAP and medical schools are financed by drug companies and that vaccines are the pharmaceutical industry's largest growing division, worth $13 billion. They suggest asking pharmaceutical companies to take a loss for the good of children is a tough sell.

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World governments have harmed millions without apology. Vaccines are linked to autism, ADHD, and other health issues. The more shots kids get, the more likely they are to have these conditions. The truth is often silenced in mainstream media.

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Pediatricians and general practitioners receive financial incentives to vaccinate early and often, which has distorted pediatric care. Pediatricians get incentives for having a high percentage of children in their practice up-to-date on federally recommended vaccines. The American Academy of Pediatrics advises pediatricians to drop families who don't adhere to the CDC schedule. A pediatrician with a large practice can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars by having a 90% or 95% vaccine uptake rate, in addition to other bonuses. This is legal, but it shouldn't be, because it's premised on the idea that vaccines are harmless and only good, which is false.

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There are over 1,400 peer-reviewed studies on NIH's website linking various vaccines to different health issues. The vaccine industry makes $60 billion a year from selling vaccines and $500 billion a year from selling remedies for vaccine injuries. This business plan involves making people sick and then selling them the lifetime cure. Unlike measles or chickenpox, which can be cured with chicken soup and vitamin A, vaccines can cause lifelong conditions like diabetes or ADHD, ensuring a permanent customer base. Some vaccines are given to babies for illnesses they have zero risk of getting, like hepatitis B. These unnecessary vaccines can be dangerous despite having no risk.

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Public health officials may not always prioritize our best interests. Parents should make their own decisions. Doctors should be open to learning about life-saving options. The pharmaceutical industry heavily influences medical education and the healthcare system. We need doctors to prioritize children's well-being over profits, even if it means taking a financial hit.

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After 1989, the U.S. administers twice as many vaccines as other Western countries. Parents should educate themselves on vaccine choices, questioning the necessity of certain shots like the hepatitis B vaccine at birth. There is concern that public health officials may not always prioritize individuals' best interests. The speaker questions why doctors wouldn't want to learn more about life-saving vaccines, suggesting financial ties between pharmaceutical companies and medical institutions influence vaccine promotion. Advocating for children's well-being may clash with the profit-driven pharmaceutical industry.

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Doctors have incentives related to vaccines, with one article claiming that 50% of pediatricians' revenue comes from them. Insurance companies like Blue Cross allegedly pay bonuses to pediatricians who maintain high vaccination rates among their clients, potentially tens of thousands of dollars. This bonus structure is claimed to be the reason pediatricians might dismiss patients who want alternative vaccine schedules. These incentives are characterized as perverse, hindering doctors from prioritizing patient care over financial gain. It is claimed that twenty years ago, 20% of doctors worked for corporations, but now 80% do, with corporations prioritizing revenue over patient well-being.

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In 1990, the number of vaccines increased significantly, raising questions about their necessity. The U.S. administers more vaccines than many Western countries, prompting concerns about profit motives behind vaccine recommendations. Parents are encouraged to educate themselves and make informed decisions about vaccinations, questioning the need for certain shots like chickenpox and hepatitis B at birth. There’s a call to space out and delay vaccinations, as well as to remove toxins from them. The influence of pharmaceutical companies on medical schools and public health organizations is highlighted, suggesting that financial interests may overshadow children's health. The discussion emphasizes the need for transparency and prioritizing children's well-being over corporate profits.

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"I don't know what happened in 1990. There was no plague that was killing children that we had tripled the amount of vaccines." "Happened after 1989? The vaccine schedule mourn to 26 more vaccines. Agreed. Are all of them absolutely necessary? They wanna make money." "It's twice as many as anywhere else in in 30 countries in the Western world." "But We give twice as many shots as any of those countries." "Should you should educate yourself. We wanna empower parents to educate themselves." "Do we need to have the chickenpox? Do we need the hepatitis b shot on the second day of life?" "I don't think we can afford to assume that the people who are charged with our our public health any longer have our best interest at heart all the time." "Parents have to take have to make their own decisions, educated decisions."

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Doctors report receiving minimal training on vaccines during their medical education. They were taught that vaccines are safe, effective, and have saved millions of lives, with emphasis on adhering to the vaccination schedule. Doctors say they did not learn the specific components of vaccines and assumed they contained saline water and bits of viruses. Without independent investigation, doctors presume vaccines are beneficial and essential for all children to receive on schedule. Since doctors may lack in-depth knowledge about vaccines due to limited training, parents should be trusted and listened to.

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In 1985, newborns received only a few vaccines, but today, children follow a schedule that includes up to 70 shots by age 18, with 27 given before age 2 and sometimes 6 in one visit. Despite this increase, data shows no improvement in children's health outcomes. Parents who question the vaccine schedule often face repercussions, such as being reported to child protection services or dismissed from their pediatrician's office. This raises concerns about parental autonomy in healthcare decisions, leading to a feeling of being trapped in a system that limits their choices. Many parents express a desire for independence from government influence in their children's healthcare.

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After 1989, the US gave twice as many shots as 30 countries in the Western world. It is important to choose which vaccines are necessary and for parents to educate themselves. Questions to consider are whether children need chickenpox or the hepatitis B shot on the second day of life. It can no longer be assumed that public health officials always have people's best interests at heart, so parents must make their own decisions. It is unclear why a doctor wouldn't want to know more about something that could save a life or prevent disease. The AAP is financed by drug companies, and vaccines are the largest growing division of the pharmaceutical industry at $13 billion. These companies control medical schools. Asking them to take a loss for the good of children is a tough sell.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience #2411 - Gavin de Becker

Guests: Gavin de Becker

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Gavin de Becker and Joe Rogan navigate a sprawling, provocative interview that blends criminology, history, and a fierce skepticism toward centralized power and public narratives. The conversation kicks off with a contrast between official histories and deeper, often overlooked episodes of covert activity, from Gladio-style operations in Europe to alleged CIA-linked assassinations and bombings. De Becker argues that oversight is perpetually weak and that powerful actors frequently exploit events to shift publics and destabilize rivals, urging listeners to scrutinize sources and rely on evidence rather than easy consensus. As the discussion widens, Rogan presses for how much of government action during crises—most notably the COVID-19 pandemic—was reactionary or malevolent, while De Becker emphasizes the role of incentives, misinformation, and institutional reflexes that preserve power, sometimes at great human cost. The dialogue then delves into vaccines and public health policy, with the guests challenging conventional safety narratives and highlighting the gaps and ambiguities in long-term vaccine safety data. They discuss historical and contemporary examples—from polio to autism links, and from mercury-based preservatives to adjuvants—arguing that many conclusions are framed to protect industry interests and political comfort. They critique the transparency of studies, the influence of pharmaceutical funding, and the perceived conflicts within advisory groups, urging parents to ask pointed questions and seek independent sources. Throughout, they acknowledge the harm caused by misinformation or cynicism, yet insist skepticism should aim to protect individuals rather than fuel nihilism, and they stress the importance of consent and shared decision-making in medical care. The guests also explore broader geopolitical and ethical questions, including population policy, foreign aid, and the incentives that drive both peace and conflict. They reference the Kissinger report as a historical example of population-centric strategies and critique modern narratives around global health and development. The conversation ends on a more personal note, with conversations about resilience, friendship, and the need to maintain civil discourse in a polarized media environment. They express hope that critical thinking and genuine dialogue can coexist with empathy, accountability, and a commitment to truth, even when the topics are uncomfortable or controversial. Ultimately, the episode invites listeners to examine their own assumptions, consult primary sources via QR links, and consider a more skeptical, yet hopeful, stance toward complex global events and public health policy.