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Speaker 1 asserts: "Yes. Yes. I mean, obviously, he fears for his life, and I was told that he feared for his life before the two assassination attempts, one coming within a millimeter of striking his head." He adds: "I mean, I've been told, yes, that Israel is a major source of concern for Trump." He warns: "If he suspended arms to a country that carries out assassinations all across the globe, that specializes in assassinations, that has an entire wing of its intelligence services, that conducts assassinations including with household goods like pagers, would you not be scared?" "So, yes, Trump is scared." He concludes: "And what I learned... is that during one of Netanyahu's many visits to The US this year, some figures in his retinue, Israeli agents, placed electronic devices on emergency response secret service vehicles. The secret service found them, they reported this to the White House. You know, these would be emergency response vehicles, that would respond to an incident potentially involving the president."

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The speaker says the United States is Israel's last ally besides the UK and that Americans lack perspective due to lies from the political class and media. Citing Haley's 2023 remark: 'Last thing we need to do is to tell Israel what to do. The only thing we should be doing is supporting them and eliminating Hamas. It is not that Israel needs America. America needs Israel.' They assert: 'Israel could not survive without The United States' and that 'every dollar that goes to the Israeli military from The United States is a dollar that the nation of Israel can spend on its own people.' They claim Haley was never asked to explain how that could be true, and warn that discussing geopolitics invites accusations of antisemitism, creating a 'state of perpetual intimidation' and no honest conversation.

1) Global perspective: “Israel is a tiny country in the Middle East, not critical to our national security, by the way.” “Two THAAD missile batteries in Israel… one quarter of the world’s total supply.” “The United States has spent at minimum $30,000,000,000 defending Israel.” “Over the course of its existence, the United States has put 300,000,000,000 into supporting Israel.” “India and China combined represent more than a third of the entire world’s population.” 2) Self-respect and client state: “get some freaking self respect and stop being ordered around by a client state.” “IDF officers in the Pentagon… barging into meetings, giving orders.” Netanyahu: “I control Donald Trump.” 3) Citizenship and lobbying: “APAC has to register under FAIR, the foreign agent registration act of the nineteen thirties.” “No dual citizenship.” “You are not allowed to serve in a foreign military without losing your American citizenship.” “expel everyone who’s not a citizen from the country.” 4) Theology: “The chosen people in Christianity are those who choose Jesus.” “That is not Christianity. It is heresy.”

Speaker 0 expresses a view on religion and national character, saying: “if a country doesn't have religion, doesn't have faith, doesn't have God, it's gonna be very hard to be a good country.” He adds, “This It'll be fixed. It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you Christians.” He states, “I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian.” He admits doubt about heaven: “I don't think there's anything gonna get me in heaven. Okay? I really don't. I think I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly an air force, but I'm not sure I I'm gonna be able to make heaven.” He claims to have been “really saved” by “somebody very special,” and repeats: “A high beak. A high beak. A high beak.” Speaker 1 recounts the presidential oath ceremony: “When US President Donald Trump took its oath of office, he had his right hand raised, but his left wasn't on the Bible. But does it matter? Academics tell Reuters that it was an oversight and it doesn't have much practical impact, although the moment has gone viral online.” A professor is quoted that “the oath is to the constitution.” He notes that “Two bibles were held by Trump's wife Melania as she stood next to him at the ceremony.” Speaker 2 presents claims about Trump’s faith: “Trump converted to Judaism two years ago and joined Chabad Lubavitch Synagogue in New York City according to a high level White House official.” A figure named Mister Goldberg says the story has allegedly been held by CNN's editors for months, but will be released soon. David Elias Goldberg, a fellow at the Jewish Center of Antisemitic Study, has also interviewed the White House source. The source says Trump was pushed by Ivanka and Jared Kushner to join the faith; Trump initially resisted, fearing it would threaten his evangelical Christian base, but then changed his mind and “officially converted in early two thousand seventeen.” The ceremony was private and guarded for nearly two years. The White House appears prepared to release this information gradually, and by summer, Trump is expected to address his new faith in an evening televised news conference. He is described as “the most pro Israel president in the history of America,” having given Israel “every single thing that they wanted,” and being “about to give them war with Iran.” The question is raised: “Has he converted?” A Times of Israel article is cited: “Trump, the first Jewish president of The United States.” It is emphasized: “Now that's not us saying that. That's times of Israel.” The discussion notes that Times of Israel is a Jewish nation, and that “these people do like Israel.” Speaker 0 interjects: “Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.” Speaker 3 adds: “And he loves Israel too. Six years ago, I was up here. And I said, this is our first Jewish president. This is our first Jewish president. This is our first Jewish president. Not not consecutive. We”—and then Speaker 0 closes with: “thank you for everything, Joel. We thank you for everything.”

Speaker 0 asks why President Trump unleashed Prime Minister Netanyahu to resume genocide in Gaza, resulting in the intentional killing of 400 civilians. Speaker 1 believes Trump has no choice, due to agreements with major donors beyond Miriam Adelson, obliging him to underwrite Netanyahu's actions. Speaker 1 notes Netanyahu arranged a meeting between the U.S. and Azerbaijan, not the State Department, indicating the Israel lobby's grip. Speaker 1 believes Trump is obliged to comply and won't diverge. Speaker 0 asks if Trump has no choice but to militarily back Israel if it attacks Iran. Speaker 1 thinks so, noting the possibility of Israel precipitating a war with Iran. The expectation is the U.S. will reinforce Israeli actions, with joint strike planning and intelligence sharing already in place. Speaker 1 believes it's a foregone conclusion, though the timing is uncertain.

Speaker 0 questions the rationale for the war, noting that “the intelligence did not suggest that an attack was imminent from Iran,” and asking, “What is left? Why are we at war with Iran?” He also remarks that “the nuclear program isn’t the reason” and that he never expected to hear Ted Cruz talking about nukes. Speaker 1 suggests the simplest explanation given, which has been backtracked, is that “Israel made us do it, that Bibi decided on this timeline, Netanyahu decided he wanted to attack, and he convinced Trump to join him by scaring Trump into believing that US assets in the region would be at risk, and so Trump was better off just joining Netanyahu.” He adds that this may not be the full explanation, but it’s a plausible one. He notes that “the nuclear program is not part of their targeting campaign,” and that “harder line leadership is taking hold,” with the Strait of Hormuz “still being shut down even as we get their navy.” He asks what remains as the explanation, suggesting it might be that Israel forced the United States’ hand and questions, “How weak does that make The United States look? How weak are we if our allies can force us into wars of choice that are bad for US national security interests?”

Speaker 0 argues that "Israel's our greatest ally. We should never ask anything of them." They echo: "Protecting Israel's most important thing. They're our only real ally." They question, "If they're our only real ally, why does Israel have a long history of transferring military technology, including American military technology to China? To China?" and ask, "Why is China running the Port Of Haifa, Israel's biggest port?" They claim "From Israel's perspective, we're not a close ally" and "The loyalty is not requited. It's one way." They say Netanyahu "has pushed it too far" and that "the governor of Israel, in particular, the prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has pushed it too far." They add "I control Donald Trump. I control the United States Congress. I control The United States." They cite Trump on West Bank annexation: "No. I will not allow it. It's not gonna happen." and "I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank." The speaker concludes "It's been enough. It's time to stop" and that "This is why Donald Trump has lost support over this Israel question."

Netanyahu controls Trump, not the other way around, which will also be the case regarding Israel's nuclear weapons. The influence of Israelis and their control over the US administration and Congress is unquestionable. Netanyahu has more influence in the US Congress than Donald Trump and is getting everything he wants. There is a groundswell in Congress to back Israelis and Netanyahu, no matter what he's done. After a hospital was hit in Israel, Netanyahu is saying they need to bomb and obliterate Iran.

Speaker 0 claims 'I control The United States. I control Donald Trump,' and that Bibi is 'running around The Middle East, his region, and his own country' telling people this 'point blank,' and 'I dare them to say that's not true.' He argues 'Bibi, not the nation of Israel, not Israelis, and certainly not Jews,' as 'the leader, the secular prime minister of a country,' is doing 'immense harm to Donald Trump's presidency to The United States.' He calls him 'an unbalanced person whose only real concern is for himself' and says he's 'meddling in an extensive way in American politics' and 'loath[ed] by the entire world.' He notes Bibi 'needs The United States,' but has a 'patronizing attitude toward Donald Trump, demeaning Trump to people Trump knows.' 'Separating from Beebe immediately' is essential, because 'he is hurting his own country, our country, the world. Period.'

Speakers discuss Netanyahu, asking why a leader seems to outpace the U.S.: 'He's using The United States, its economy, and its military power for his own ends.' They say it's common but remarkable how effective and contemptuous he is. Netanyahu reportedly told a journalist, '80% of Americans support us,' prompting, 'Did you think that's right?' They accuse him of contempt for Oh, The United Andrew Harbett And for Christianity especially, which is very galling, and note U.S. support totals 'tens of billions a year.' One speaker calls him 'BB' and says 'BB is completely evil and completely destructive' who 'imperils the world.' He warns they may try to blow up Al Aqsa Mosque to build the third temple, risking global war. He asks, 'Where's our self respect?' and challenges leaders like Ted Cruz: 'Ted Cruz says right into the camera, I was elected. My main goal was to help Israel.'

Speaker argues the United States is Israel's last large ally besides the UK, with a large cost and limited perspective due to lies from the political class and media. They blame U.S. elected leaders for decades of misrepresentation. Citing Nikki Haley's 2023 Republican primary debate, the quote: "Last thing we need to do is to tell Israel what to do. The only thing we should be doing is supporting them and eliminating Hamas. It is not that Israel needs America. America needs Israel." The speaker contends this is inverted: "Israel could not survive without The United States." American backing funds Israeli wars and social services; "every dollar that goes to the Israeli military from The United States is a dollar that the nation of Israel can spend on its own people." Haley wasn't asked to explain, and questioning geopolitics is feared as antisemitic, leading to "a state of perpetual intimidation" and "We have not had an honest conversation about this ever."

Donald Trump is prioritizing America First, not Israel First, and will no longer consult with Israel on Middle Eastern foreign policy. Trump believes Benjamin Netanyahu tried to manipulate the U.S. into war with Iran and caught Israel preparing to strike Iran without informing the U.S. Mike Walls allegedly spied on the Trump administration to coerce the cabinet into war with Iran on Netanyahu's behalf, but instead of firing him, Trump made him UN ambassador to silence him. Trump is reportedly going to recognize Palestine as a state, which will anger Israel. Israel is not our greatest ally, but our deepest foe, and the CIA says they are the number one spy threat in the U.S. The World Banking Cartel and Jeff Epstein are all tied together, but blackmail no longer works because there is evidence against everyone involved. The media can't lie anymore because people are waking up and have access to information.

Speaker claims: "Israel has an overwhelming lobby over the United States government, and we have unconditionally supported them." He cites "BB Netanyahu came to our congress in the nineties, told us a list of countries that we need to take out. Some were Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, etcetera." He adds "Through those wars, we have lost trillions of dollars" and "We have lost American servicemen." He asserts "They don't teach about the USS Liberty, where Israel literally came, blew up an American ship because they want us to get in their war with, Egypt and they don't teach that in school." He asks "Why is there this societal taboo around criticisms of Israel? For example, APAC doesn't have to register as a foreign lobby, but like the Australia lobby does. And the it just That should be changed. I That should be corrected." Finally, "Look. I I am not gonna say Israel should have any special privileges. None."

Israel has significant leverage over Trump due to past financial dealings. Wilbur Ross, while associated with the Rothschilds, organized a bailout for Trump when he was heavily in debt. Sheldon and Miriam Adelson have also contributed $100 million to Trump's election campaign. This influence is evidenced by Trump's actions, including moving the US embassy to Jerusalem and recognizing the Golan Heights as Israeli territory, leading to the creation of "Trump Heights." It is claimed that Trump will sanction the Israeli annexation of the West Bank as part of an agreement. Trump is allegedly beholden to these interests due to blackmail and financial dependence. The speaker asserts that Trump did not vanquish the deep state but merely changed its personnel.

Donald Trump is prioritizing America First, not Israel First, and will no longer consult with Israel on Middle Eastern foreign policy. Trump believes Benjamin Netanyahu tried to manipulate the U.S. into war with Iran and caught Israel preparing to strike Iran without informing the U.S. Mike Walls allegedly spied on the Trump administration to coerce the cabinet into war with Iran on Netanyahu's behalf. Trump appointed Walls as UN ambassador to silence him. Trump is aiming for world peace and believes Israel is trying to drag the U.S. into more Middle Eastern wars. Trump is reportedly going to recognize Palestine as a state, which will anger Israel. Israel is not our greatest ally, but our deepest foe, and the CIA considers Israel the number one spy threat in the U.S. The World Banking Cartel and Jeff Epstein are tied together, but blackmail is no longer effective because evidence exists against everyone involved. The media can't lie anymore because people are waking up and have access to information.

"Israel controls the media now." "There will be no dispute about this." "The fact that you have a foreign leader it's incredible." "You have a foreign leader who is sitting up there saying that he wants his agents, he needs the deal to go through, which, by the way, let's call out Donald Trump right now, all of the acting." "We don't want China! We don't want China to own TikTok, and don't worry about your data." "No, you wanted to hand it over to your Zionist friends. It was all a mirage. Okay? It was all theater." "Donald Trump has sold us out to Israel once again."

The discussion centers on how politicization of intelligence has manifested in different eras, comparing past and present administrations. Speaker 0 asks whether the politicized weapons claims about Iraq and the CIA’s statements in the 1990s can be compared to today’s politicization of intelligence under John Ratcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard as head of DNI, arguing it is much worse now because of the mediocrity of those in control of key agencies. Speaker 1 counters by recalling the 1980s, noting that there was significant politicization of the Soviet threat to justify Reagan’s defense buildup, and adds that this is why he testified against Robert Gates in 1991. He asserts that politicization is bad, and insists that the current situation is worse than in the past. Speaker 1 explains: “It’s Because I look at the people who are ahead of these groups. Come on. Let’s be serious.” He targets the leadership of the director of national intelligence, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the CIA, saying, “Have you ever seen a cabinet in The United States of such mediocrity, of such venality?” He emphasizes his background, stating, “I haven’t,” and that nothing compares to what is going on now, warning that “a lot of damage is being done to The United States and to the constitution of The United States and to the importance of separation of powers and the importance of rule of law and the importance of checks and balances. This is very serious stuff.” Speaker 0 attempts to steer toward historical figures like Robert Maxwell, but Speaker 1 dismisses that concern as off point, insisting he is making a point about Israel. The exchange then shifts to U.S. support for Israel, with Speaker 1 asserting that “Israel gets what it wants from The United States. It gets it from democratic presidents and from republican presidents.” He also criticizes Barack Obama for signing what he calls “that ten year $40,000,000,000 arms aid agreement,” arguing that Obama “never should have signed” it “because they treated Obama so shabbily in the first place.”

The transcript presents a fringe, highly charged discussion about perceived Israeli influence in the United States, Trump’s shift from “America first” to “Israel first,” and related political dynamics. The speakers repeatedly claim that Israel controls the U.S. government and American foreign policy, with several variations such as “Israel's controlling our government,” “Israel controls us,” and “The government of Israel controls The United States.” They assert that Israel has run American foreign policy for thirty years and that the United States government is taking edicts from Israel, describing it as an “Israel first administration.” As the discussion progresses, the speakers describe discomfort with America’s relationship with Israeli leaders, calling the Israeli government a “satanic regime” and suggesting it seeks to cause pain. They contrast Trump’s campaign promises of “America first” with his alleged current actions, arguing that he has escalated a war on behalf of Israel and turned on earlier allies who did not toe the Israel-first line. They claim Trump has allied with politicians and influencers who are unpopular with his former base, and that he endorses a “massive war on behalf of Israel that he promised he would never start.” They point to specific figures affected by these changes, including those who supported or criticized Trump and Israel. The discussion names individuals and entities linked to the shift, including Charlie Kirk. They claim Kirk was influential against the Iran war and withdrew support for Israel prior to his death; Erica Kirk allegedly took over TPUSA to continue Charlie Kirk’s legacy but allegedly did so in a way that opposes Kirk’s earlier stance, endorsing Massey’s Israel-funded opponent and labeling Massey a “rhino.” They argue donors pressured Kirk to change his stance, leading TPUSA to distance itself from Kirk’s legacy and to align with an Israel-funding candidate backed by Trump. The speakers claim broad consequences for Trump’s base: those who call for justice with the Epstein files, those suspicious of Israel, and those who question Erica Kirk are said to have been blackballed or marginalized. Conversely, supporters of the new Trump are described as urging to move on from Epstein, unconditionally supporting Israel, and reacting strongly to any critique of Erica Kirk. A recurring theme is a critique of Zionism as a political ideology; the speakers distinguish between “Israel” and “Zionism” and argue Zionism controls both the U.S. and Israel. They challenge religious claims that Israel is “God’s chosen people,” offering a Christian critique of that idea and asserting separations of church and state in the U.S. The discussion includes references to alleged silencing mechanisms, narrative control, and tribalism as a “SIOP” framework, describing three characteristics: silencing opposing ideas, a strong narrative, and tribalism. They illustrate these with examples such as censorship of anti-Israel sentiment or questions about Israel, accusations about a fixed narrative like “Israel is our greatest ally,” and the exclusion of dissenting voices. The speakers conclude by asserting that while Israel does not control the U.S., Zionism appears to influence both countries, and that the root issue is the influence of Zionism rather than a single country’s leadership. They urge viewers to speak up while suggesting the changes reflect a broader, troubling shift in political power, ending with a night-time sign-off and personal recovery product plugs being referenced but later deemphasized.

Speakers discuss Netanyahu’s influence: "He's using The United States, its economy, and its military power for his own ends." They note it's common but "remarkable how effective he's been at that and how contemptuous he is." "80% of Americans support us." They warn U.S. support is "tens of billions a year." "Phoebe Netanyahu is a foreigner." Concerns about Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz surface: "Ted Cruz says right into the camera, I was elected. My main goal was to help Israel." They argue antisemitism is "a dodge" and that "anti Semitism very often is a way to pass the buck. It's their fault." They contend Netanyahu is a threat—"I think that clearly they're gonna try and blow up Al Aqsa Mosque" to "build the third temple"—and ask, "Where's our self respect?" "I am way, way more angry at my leaders than I am at Netanyahu."

Israel's potential attack on Iran, despite Trump's desire for a deal, raises questions about the U.S.-Israel relationship, especially since the U.S. funds Israel's weapons. It's questioned whether Israel is acting as an ally, considering its close ties with China, including alleged transfers of military technology, even American tech. China operates the Port of Haifa. Past presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush confronted Israel, with Reagan halting the Israeli bombing of Lebanon. Bush conditioned loan guarantees on halting West Bank settlements, facing accusations of antisemitism led by Bill Clinton. The speakers highlight the need for open discussion about U.S. national interests and the U.S.-Israel relationship, despite potential backlash and smears. They draw a parallel to the left's use of identity politics to shut down conversations, arguing that similar tactics are used to stifle discussion about Israel.

Speaker 0: Do we need this connection with Israel? What is it? No one ever explains what it's for. I feel like. Right? That would help everybody have a much better understanding, you know, because it starts to feel like America is just a shell company, an LLC for Israel. That's what it starts to feel like a lot of times, you know? Do you feel like that that's realistic, or do you feel like that that's off base? Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't send them a dime. Like, that's my position. I don't think whatever we're getting isn't worth it.

He's using The United States, its economy, and its military power for his own ends. What's remarkable to me is how effective he's been at that and how contemptuous he is. "80% of Americans this is an old one. 80% of Americans support us." "BB is completely evil and completely destructive." "He's hurting The United States and he's destroying his own country and I think he imperils the world." "They're gonna try and blow up Al Aqsa Mosque" "to build the third temple, and then you've got global war." "No, I am way, way more angry at my leaders than I am at Netanyahu. Much it's not even close." "Ted Cruz says right into the camera, I was elected. My main goal was to help Israel." "Where's our self respect?" "anti Semitism very often is a way to pass the buck." "It's their fault." "Why are we allowing this?"