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Two speakers present political grievances. The transcript centers on funding to Israel, veterans’ welfare, and oath fidelity. Speaker 0: "Sending billions of dollars to Israel. Meanwhile, veterans are homeless and committing suicide. You heard that right. I am deemed a threat to national security because I don't support Israel's genocide." Speaker 1: "I swore an oath to the constitution. I didn't swear an oath to the president, to the congress. 20% skill. 15% concentrated power of will. 5% pleasure."

The speaker states they dropped out of Harvard to serve their country and pursue reform, despite receiving email threats and losing friendships. They believe campus sentiment has turned against them. The speaker expresses hope that people will recognize the need for reform and that the people working there have the best chance of achieving it, working constantly. They believe the impact of their work is more valuable than anything they could have learned in a computer science classroom.

For 19 years, the speaker prayed to be put in a position to end a calamity, viewing this as a spiritual journey. The decision was reached through prayer, focusing on maximizing the chances to save America's children and restore national health. Refusing the opportunity would mean being unable to face oneself, knowing countless children's lives could have been saved. President Trump wants this to be his legacy. The most unifying theme for all Americans is love for their children. Ultimately, the only thing that will save the country and its children is choosing to love kids more than hating each other.

Speaker calls for recalibration after giving money to a nonprofit that fired at the enemy and missed, saying, "you need to recalibrate." He says you owe it to yourselves, better yet, to your children, better yet, to your country. He invokes General Flynn and his grandfather on the deck of the USS West Virginia on 12/07/1941, who, despite being bombed overhead, ordered his boys to start firing; five minutes later, they were out of ammo. "that man knew when you are facing enemy attack, the wrong thing to do is nothing." He recounts, "bend down and pick up the potatoes that we're supposed to use for dinner" because they were unprepared. The message: when facing war and tyranny, you stand up and you fight right now. "God bless you. God bless this country. I'll see you at the back of the"

Speaker 0: Get on your feet. Speaker 1: War is raging in Iran. Speaker 2: We're praying Speaker 3: we're praying for Speaker 1: all the soldiers and troops. That's great that you're praying, but Speaker 4: How about all the kids that died when The USA hit the the towns? Speaker 2: It broke my heart. That is the oh. In Speaker 0: what ways have you grown closer to Jesus? Speaker 5: I serve a righteous God, Speaker 6: And that is why we say our prayers. Speaker 3: We are all his children. Speaker 1: But when I say children, mean like the holy blessed Trinity, which is why I hold the Bible. Speaker 0: Sweet cream foam chai ice matcha. Okay. Speaker 7: And Bella will have all organic pup cup. Speaker 4: Organic? Yes. Everything organic. Speaker 2: We have to protect all men in America, especially all white men in America. Those are the boys that we care about in this country. America is built on their backs. Yes. Because they are the Speaker 8: ones who mattered most.

Speaker 0 asserts that kindergarten classes look “completely disgustingly changed” and that those children are not belonging there, calling them “anchor babies” and alleging they are “chemical weapons” and “biological chemical weapons” sent to destroy the fabric of the country. He adds that these people do not vote like white Christian men and vote against the interests of “small town, small America.” He then says, “White people in America, you will be replaced and your children will be black Muslims if you don't stand up now,” claims that “AIPAC is one of the main components to the people at the head of Hollywood that are brainwashing your children to vote Democrat, to take your guns, and to take your freedom,” and declares that it is time to fight back. Speaker 2 responds by stating that there is a war being fought against “our people,” and it is “in our school systems,” “in our cafeterias,” and “in our grocery stores,” and that replacement is happening “on our phones,” and “in our hospitals.” He calls for fighting back, organizing, and having more children, and urges turning minds and hearts toward Christ. Speaker 1 encouragements follow: “We need to stand up,” and “We need to stand tall.” Speaker 1 then proclaims, “I’m proud to be white, and I’m proud to be American,” and calls others to action: “America, fight back. Stand strong. Be brave.” The speakers exhort others to inspire those around them, and to affirm faith with “Amen.” Speaker 2 closes with “God bless America.”

The speaker asserts total loyalty and personal sacrifice for the country, stating: “Unequivocally, I spent four years in prison as a j sixer. I suffered for my country. I’ve never been bought, paid for. I never sat down with the feds. I’ve never had a conversation with any federal agent, asset, anybody from APAC, Israel, Venezuela, China, anywhere. I’m born American born and raised. I will fight and die for this country, and I probably end up, Will, fighting and dying in a crusade one day.” They warn that when the crusades start, the audience will see who the psyops are and who the men are. The speaker addresses Will directly and emphasizes personal history and integrity, contrasting themselves with alleged manipulation by others. They reference a claim about a person who said he was Tim Hill’s cellmate, saying that Tim Hill “specifically talk[ed] about you.” The speaker labels Tim Hill as a “sniveling little jealous guy,” accusing him of trying to tear down a strong man’s movement and calling it unfortunate. A broader critique follows about people who “are willing to lie to grip down other people’s character because they don’t have anything in their life.” The speaker disparages what they describe as “40 year old virgin types,” implying that such individuals lie to manipulate and undermine others rather than confront them openly. Overall, the transcript presents a narrative of personal loyalty, alleged independence from federal influence, and readiness for violent confrontation in the speaker’s framing, while accusing others of jealousy, deceit, and moral hollowness as a means to undermine a movement.

Speaker 0 urges the importance of studying and discovering the origins of things, emphasizing the need to understand where things come from. Speaker 1 asks what happens when people do uncover those origins, and what becomes of individuals whose entire life has been defined by the Bible. Speaker 0 responds by asking listeners to consider the situation in Russia. He asks: In Russia today, what is it like when you find out that you’ve been hoodwinked, that your government was not the most powerful and most wonderful government on earth, and now it has totally collapsed? He inquires what people would do in such a moment, highlighting that they trusted, raised their children, and wasted their entire life by going along to get along. He explains that when a government collapses, the consequence is a destabilized world for those who did not do their homework and did not stand up for what was right when they could have. The implication is that choosing conformity over principle leads to losses when circumstances change. The speaker asserts that people went along because it was comfortable at the time, but now the situation is very uncomfortable. Speaker 0 then connects this to a broader purpose, stating the need for a shared reflection: a spiritual revolution in the country in which people say, simply, “just say no.” He extends this call to reject organized religion, organized government, tyranny, and all forms of bigotry, ignorance, and ill-informed stupidity, regardless of where they originate or what color they may be. The core message is a universal imperative to resist oppression and dogma. Finally, the speaker reiterates the central action requested: “Just say no to organized religion. Just say no to organized government. Just say no to tyranny,” followed by the insistence that this stance applies to all forms of tyranny and prejudice. He concludes with a reiteration of the essential point: the need to do your homework. In sum, the transcript centers on the dangers of blind trust and conformity, the collapse of established power as a warning, and a call for a broad, nonconformist, principled resistance to oppressive structures—whether religious, governmental, or ideological—through informed, independent scrutiny and action. The emphasis is on recognizing uncomfortable facts, questioning established narratives, and taking a stand when possible.

Speaker 0 describes Zelensky as an American hero and contrasts his public image with the underlying narrative. He explains Zelensky was totally apolitical, an outsider with no government experience, a comedian, and the star of a planned TV show called Servant of the People. In the show, the main character creates a YouTube video that calls out oligarchs and corruption, becomes popular, and is drafted as a protest candidate who eventually becomes president. In real life, the TV show is supported by oligarch Kolomoisky, who owned the channel and did a large, nonstop promotional push to make it the number one show, including primetime slots, ads, and crossovers with the news. In 2018, a year before the show ended, Zelensky formed a political party named Servant of the People, the same title as the show, and secretly produced another season of the show. In April 2019, he announced his candidacy on Instagram, with no campaign, no rallies, no real platform, and he skipped presidential debates; his few early press conferences were poor. Kolomoisky’s channel provided Zelensky with endless airtime and favorable polls while attacking his enemies. Speaker 0 continues that US intelligence agencies, CIA and NSA, helped by funding democracy campaigns in Ukraine—reportedly around $5 billion—funneled through NGOs, with USAID embedding advisers in Zelensky’s organization to assist the campaign. On election day, Zelensky wins with 73% of the vote. Afterward, the war with Russia occurs, he declares martial law, and elections are ended. An election in 2024 is anticipated as the result of democracy money. He asserts Zelensky is an actor in a carefully designed television show—“a construct,” akin to Epstein—an created entity that works, and asks what Americans think about his popularity. Speaker 1 responds that Americans are disappointed by the ongoing war and deaths, noting that the war’s human cost is a major failure of promises from the Trump administration, who claimed he would resolve it in 24 hours. He adds that conscripting 60-year-old men and Americans and others going to fight are part of the situation. He states that the Ukraine narrative, and wars in general, are not organic: wars like this are driven by demands for primacy, control, and wealth, rather than being spontaneous. He reflects that Putin didn’t suddenly decide to invade; similarly, the broader pattern of power is not organic. He notes the Russian soldiers were told they would be welcomed and that they had dress uniforms, and compares to expectations in Iraq, where it was promised that Iraqis would welcome forces. He asks what the Ukraine situation is really about, and comments that human war reduces to a few centers of power like NATO, China, the Soviet bloc, and oil-producing countries, ultimately converging to two leaders in a room who must kill each other, as part of the decay of empire, with the U.S. maintaining about 760 overseas military bases.

If conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East continue unchecked, the destruction seen on television could reach America. Without clear goals, these conflicts may escalate, straining an economy unprepared for major war. Our military, reliant on outdated Cold War strategies, is overstretched and not suited for modern challenges. Americans desire a society focused on homes, education, and safety for their children, free from abuse and exploitation. As we reflect on Veterans Day, we must honor those who sacrificed for our freedom while ensuring our military engagements are just and necessary. Our forces should only fight for clear national interests, supported by a healthy economy and society, as was the case in 1991. Thank you for listening. God bless you and the United States.

Speaker 1 hesitates when covering government cover-ups because they can be dangerous, unlike topics like Bigfoot or UFOs. Speaker 1 considers themself a patriot, pro-military, and pro-law enforcement, but also anti-war and pro-criminal justice reform. They value fairness and transparency and would like to think the government is good. However, their journey has shown them that it is mostly not, as it is made of flawed and selfish men. Justifications can be made for doing terrible things to stay ahead of terrible people. Speaker 1 says collateral damage is just part of it, such as giving settlements to people to stay quiet for national security.

The conversation centers on accusations about Venezuela’s leadership and the international response to Middle East conflict. Speaker 0 asserts that “the woman” who is supposedly taking over Venezuela is pro Israeli and pro Likud, noting she signed a cooperation deal in 2020 with Netanyahu’s Likud party and fully supports Netanyahu’s war on Gaza, asking, “This is why we're seeing the bombing of them right now?” Speaker 1 counters by outlining a pattern of what they view as permissive international inaction. They assert that “The UN has allowed the bombing and destruction of Beirut and Lebanon. They've allowed the bombing and destruction of Syria. Every day, they permit the bombing of Yemen's Arab people.” They then ask what major Western capitals—Berlin, Paris, London, Washington—will say as they “keep encouraging the Hitler of the twenty first century now against the noble peaceful people of Iran.” They declare, “The Bolivarian humanist peaceful people of Venezuela say no to war,” urging that the madness must be stopped. Speaker 1 then addresses Israelis and Jews directly, framing themselves as a Christian and Sephardic heir who tells them to “stop Netanyahu's madness.” They state that only “the people of Israel can stop this madness.” They question where warmongering will lead and warn about the consequences of racism, intolerance, hatred, and violence. They ask whether missiles and bombs will subdue the will of the world’s peoples and call for an end to aggression against Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Yemenis, and the noble people of Iran. The speaker emphasizes that “The ball is in the court of Israel's Jewish people” and urges an end to this “immoral war, this criminal war.” The exchange conveys a sense of urgency and moral appeal, framed as a call for stopping perceived aggression and imperial complicity, while highlighting the interconnections between Venezuelan solidarity with peaceful movements and opposition to ongoing bombardments in the region. We shall see.

I want to talk about peace, not imposed by force, but real peace that allows nations to thrive and build a better future. Peace for all, not just for Americans. Peace that brings hope and prosperity for everyone. Peace that is essential for a meaningful life.

Speaker 0: You said no to war, and I heard you. I thought, what a blessing you are. May your heart stay pure and always protected. May your actions and morals stay connected, because our hearts have been tainted like black tea spilled on a Persian rug leaving a stain. We used to think the same. We wanted to play a good hand at this game, but the moment we heard our mothers wailing, we folded. There's no justice in this life. Our faith has eroded. They keep killing our children in the name of God. We watch Seppar's father searching for his son amongst countless body bags filled with women and children and innocent men. We also never considered war an option before then, before we witnessed our mothers burn in grieving flames. It wasn't required to jump over fire when New Year's came. Every stride they took, they were burning like a furnace. Every step turned to ash where their hearts used to beat. Their pain turned soft souls into something concrete. May you never know the pain of a whole entire nation begging to be saved by foreign invasion. They say, I don't understand. Why would you agree to war? What a blessing it is that you don't understand my love. I hope you never know the pain of people begging to be bombed where your death is so close, but it feels like hope. Maybe in another life, every country will rush to save us instead of fighting over whether Trump has the right to invade us. They'll fight over who gets the honor of being our savior. They'll argue over credit for our liberation and for once we'll have a choice and who our leader gets to be, not imposed but chosen will finally be free. It's good you don't believe in more. What beautiful way of thinking. What a blessing it is to not know the feeling of clinging to the first life raft that comes in your direction, not caring for a second about their intention, not pausing for reflection, just to fight against death. My love, I'm glad you still believe there's a wrong and a right, but I've seen a place where that line disappears, where survival speaks louder than morals and fears, what a blessing to breathe and still have a voice, to question the hand and still have a choice. But when your lungs start to fail and you're drowning with no air, you don't care who it is, you just hope that they're there. You clutch at the life raft, no time left away, whose hands pulling you up or what price you will pay, head barely above water, grief flooding your sight. You don't choose your savior. You choose to survive.

The transcript depicts a chaotic moment at a hearing where protesters voice strong anti-war sentiment and opposition to backing Israel. Speaker 0 opens by claiming, “Reason for this war. America does not wanna fight this war for Israel. Let's go. Come on. Let's go.” They assert that America does not want to stop its sons and daughters from fighting for Israel and criticize others for not naming that reality, declaring, “Your inability to name that shows you the effectiveness as leaders. Out. This is wrong. No. And nobody wants to fight for Israel.” Speaker 1 reacts with shock, asking, “Oh my god. What is happening? And you're not even looking back. Any of you four star generals.” The mood devolves into chaos as people shout, sit down, and attempt to manage the disruption. Speaker 2 expresses alarm, while Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 direct people to clear the hallways and manage the disruption, with exchanges about someone being stuck and the crowd reacting to the commotion. During the turmoil, the crowd tries to help a person who appears to be injured, and the scene escalates with phrases like, “That’s the pressure. Oh my god.” Speaker 0 insists on moving people aside and managing the situation, stating, “Would y’all just move aside then? That way people can still lay there.” In the midst of the disturbance, Speaker 1 announces, “We just witnessed a marine veteran interrupting the hearing, and they broke his arm. Why did he interrupt the hearing? Because there is a war in Iran, and our military brothers and sisters are going to die for Israel, and we are here to say no. We do not support Israel. We do not wanna die for Israel. Stop the war in Iran right now.” The accounts describe the veteran being tackled to the ground, his arm trapped in a door, and having it broken, with witnesses stating it was a “very, very intense situation.” The veteran is identified by Speaker 1 as Brian McGinnis, who is running for Senate in North Carolina, although Speaker 1 is unsure about acknowledging his affiliation with any organization. The crowd labels those who acted with the reporters as “cowards.” After the incident, Speaker 0 invites cooperation with authorities and asks the injured to move to allow passage, while Speaker 2 notes, “America does not wanna fight this war in Iran, and the soldiers don't. Right?” The closing sentiment echoes the protesters’ position: “America does not wanna fight this war in Iran, and the soldiers don't. Right?” The overall narrative centers on opposition to U.S. involvement in Iran, opposition to supporting Israel, and the violent disruption of a hearing, including a marine veteran’s injury and arrest.

Speaker 0: It's been a few days since you issued that resignation. You’ve been called weak by the president of the United States. You’ve been called a traitor by Lindsey Graham. You’ve been called an anti-Semite by Mitch McConnell, among others. Now there are reports that you’re under a leak investigation potentially accusing you of a felony that could put you in jail even though you now are raising your two boys. You’ve remarried, but you’re their sole biological parent still here. I ask you now whether this was worth it. Speaker 1: I think it most certainly was, Megan. I mean, the attacks against me are to be expected. The ad hominems from people like Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham at this point are fairly laughable. They don’t wanna discuss the issues. I wanna discuss the issues. As for the leak allegations, I’m not concerned because I know I did nothing wrong. Of course, I am concerned because we’ve all seen the FBI and the full way of the government come down on individuals who speak out. So that has me a little bit concerned, but I know the truth and the facts are on my side. So I think the important issues to address are what’s at hand, why we’re at war, and how we get out of the state that we’re in right now. Speaker 0: Mhmm. Your boys have already lost one parent. I mean, the thought of this government for which you’ve been working and the government for which you’ve sacrificed so much, actually trying to put you in jail over an alleged leak after the number of leaks we’ve seen go unpunished over the past ten years is truly outrageous, Joe. I mean, does it anger you? How does it make you feel? Speaker 1: You, you know, it it does anger me, but it it’s all just to be expected. I I knew this was going to happen. I I know their playbook. I think we’re all very familiar with their playbook. So, actually, the fact that they’re leaking these allegations so so they have to leak the allegations of an FBI investigation. If there truly was an FBI investigation, and who knows, maybe there will be, there would be a process and procedure for that. They would actually formally come to me. And if they were still collecting information, they most certainly wouldn’t leak it. So the fact that the FBI, DOJ, or really probably just partisans are leaking this this so-called investigation against me at a time when I’m going on and publicly speaking out against the course the administration is on, to me, that tells me everything that I need to know. I feel very confident in what I’m doing right now. I think I have a mission, and I think it is to do everything I can to stop this war. So to me, I kinda view everything else as a sideshow, and I just wanna stay focused on the mission.

Speaker 0 argues that most Americans oppose the war, citing polling and the president’s failure to make a case for it. The speaker asserts that people don’t feel threatened by Iran and don’t fear an Iranian ballistic missile landing in the United States. The speaker lists a set of American concerns: 72% can’t afford health insurance, 58% can’t afford car insurance, 67% live paycheck to paycheck, 31% can’t afford back taxes, and 50% carry massive credit card debt. They state they campaigned with the president and were among the few Republicans supporting Donald Trump when others opposed him in a primary, emphasizing a “America first” stance focused on American problems rather than foreign countries or foreign peoples. The speaker expresses concern for the Iranian people and hopes for a government that treats women fairly, but asserts that “we have seen over 100 little girls killed at a school from a bomb,” and claims that “America and Israel attacked Iran,” implying this is not good for Iranian women. They criticize the president’s claim that the Iranian people will topple their regime, saying the Iranian people won’t topple their regime while being bombed by the United States and Israel in an unprovoked attack, which the speaker claims is true. They reference Pete Hegseth’s comment that the U.S. did not start the war, but the speaker counters that America and Israel definitely started it and states, “you can’t lie that away to the American people.” The speaker declares being irate and furious about the situation, noting the national debt approaching $40 trillion and questioning the war’s cost. They argue that American troops have been killed and murdered for foreign countries, and that four Americans have died for Israel and the Iranian people, not for Americans. The speaker laments the loss of American military members and acknowledges the families who may be grieving. They mention Trump’s past statements that he doesn’t think he will go to heaven, and question what that implies about his decision-making, given that the president has said he may place troops on the ground and that what began as “a few day war” could extend to four weeks or more. The speaker recalls prior commitments by JD Vance and Tulsi Gabbard to end foreign wars and regime change, but notes that “we’re a year in” and yet “we’re in another fucking war” with Americans killed. The speech ends with a call for America to “rip the Band Aid off” and to have a serious conversation about who is making these decisions and for whom.

Speaker 0 challenges Speaker 1 about serving a restraining order against a newsroom, asking if they’ve ever done so against a journalist. Speaker 1 responds that he isn’t sure, and notes he may have served someone without knowing their occupation. Speaker 0 emphasizes the newsroom’s First Amendment rights, saying it prohibits restraining orders against reporting what people say, calling it a fundamental constitutional right. Speaker 1 explains the document is “a court order signed by a judge Mhmm. Out of Miami. All we're doing is serving to you.” Speaker 0 pushes back, implying the situation is serious and indicating they want to speak with the judge involved. Speaker 1 points to the restraining order and says, “It’s all yours,” and that Speaker 0 is responsible for everything in the restraining order. Speaker 0 thanks Speaker 1 for being there and mentions he will tell the courts about video of a man saying he wants to kill him. Speaker 1 says he has no idea about that claim. Speaker 0 reflects on the state of the country, stating, “One of the problems in this country is that we're in a constitutional crisis,” and shares personal views that they report people breaking the law, and that those people are never held accountable. He says he’s the one who’s brought to court, arrested, and sued, while “the American people are just pissed off.” He acknowledges Speaker 1’s role and expresses being upset and discouraged. Speaker 0 speaks about maintaining hope despite oppression, noting that people look up to him and that he’s the one who keeps getting held accountable. He asks Speaker 1 to understand what he’s saying. Speaker 0 asserts that something must change “not for my sake, but for our children's sake,” and reiterates the constitutional crisis claim. Speaker 0 recognizes that Speaker 1 is simply doing a job but shares his frustration and desperation, asking why he should continue if it only brings pain, punishment, and abuse. Speaker 0 concedes there’s nothing Speaker 1 can do and that they are in this country’s current situation, acknowledging the police presence bringing him to court and questioning why he should keep going.

I want to remind you, especially younger writers, that you don't have to conform or be afraid to criticize your government and society. It's popular to criticize Republicans and Trump, but we should also remember that both Republicans and Democrats have contributed to the 13 wars we've started in the past 30 years, costing trillions of dollars and countless lives. This system, which some call the military-industrial complex, perpetuates war and chaos in the world. We've intervened in over 100 countries, causing regime changes and economic turmoil. This system is leading to the destruction of our planet and our own extinction. Despite the challenges, if you believe in what you're saying and stay true to your values, you can make a difference. Stay true to yourself, listen to your inner voice, and never give up on peace, decency, and the truth.

One speaker describes a person who was “one of the only people… to go to the president whom he loved” and notes that the president “loved him in a real way.” This person, who truly cared for his country, went to the Oval Office to tell the president that while Iran is really bad, “a war with Iran is not… something that could really hurt our country.” It was an unpopular position, and he “didn’t need to express it,” yet he did, without pursuing some hostile agenda. He was for doing the right and wise and difficult thing and spoke that truth when he faced the president. The speaker adds that this person “took massive, massive abuse from his own donors.” The donors had different views and expressed them intensely, but the person “loved his donors,” and he confronted them by presenting his own stance: “look, I understand your perspective. This is my perspective, and we're gonna do what we think is the right thing, the wise thing.” Another point emphasizes that he was “the voice of young people.” The speaker asserts that there are “no young people in the country anymore supporting this war and wanting Israel to continue its bombing campaign,” stating that this reflects the truth of the polls. He was in touch with young people and, even when his own opinion differed from theirs, felt he owed it to them “to bring their message to the sitting president of The United States.” The speaker concludes with a somber note, stating that the situation has been, in his view, snuffed out, “as he has been, unfortunately.”

Some men just want to watch the world burn. People need dramatic examples to wake them up. The corrupt political establishment is a war machine with no soul. This election is a crossroads for our nation's survival. The only force that can stop this corruption is the people. We must confront those who threaten us and stand together for peace, freedom, and justice. God bless the nations of the world and the United States of America. Thank you.

Speaker 1 is optimistic that, even if there isn’t an impeachment proceeding and a removal from office, whether or not that happens, the American people are gonna pass judgment on what kind of country we wanna be. There are strong policy disagreements, but we have a common set of values that hold this country together: "We don't have common ancestry, common language, common faith. We have nothing in common except a set of values." "That's the glue in The United States Of America that holds Republicans, Democrats, and independents together." "Our leaders must reflect the glue that holds us together. They can't be people who lie all the time. They just can't." Guns are important; immigration, abortion, taxes are important, but above that is something we have in common that's nonnegotiable. "What if he wins again? Will you still believe that?" He says he’ll be from his new home in New Zealand, I will but I I I still will believe in America.

Interviewer: This decision to follow your conscience, give us a little backstory. How did that happen? Guest: Without getting too much into detail, I did a long-form podcast with Tucker, laying out the entire politics of the issue. After serving twenty years, mostly deployed to the Middle East, fighting the wars over there, and seeing how our country had been lied to and brought down the wrong path in those wars, and that we were getting sucked into another one and that the American people didn't have the full story and our country did not have a vital national interest in this current fight. I said, hey, in good conscience, I can't do this because that was a promise I made to myself probably twenty plus years ago when I was deployed to Iraq. Once I realized after my first couple deployments that we weren't there for the reasons that our government told us we were there for, I said if it's ever my turn, if I'm ever an adult in this situation, I ever have a position of responsibility, I will not, in good conscience, send young men and women off to die on foreign battlefields. Interviewer: So we're Catholics here, baptized Catholic. We saw just on Sunday... Does it help you to have other members of your faith community or religious leaders speaking up on your behalf? Guest: It's been huge. I didn't think when I submitted my resignation it would get the traction or attention that you talked about. Having support from friends, family, but really, I’ve been asked a couple times, was it a hard decision to make? It wasn't made lightly. I put a lot of thought into it, and I had been thinking about it for quite some time. But having faith, I think I heard God's voice, that I was exactly where I was supposed to be and it was my time to take action, which made taking the action incredibly easy and liberating, making me feel like I was in the right spot. Interviewer: Do you have hope for America? And if you do, why so? Guest: I have a great deal of hope for America. This is a very exciting moment. The fact that we're seeing people who speak out on behalf of their faith or who are willing to speak truth to power, and that the people who support them can have a voice because of technology, which can be used for a lot of bad, but in connecting like-minded people and getting our word out, that technology is a very powerful weapon. The young people—the young men and women—there are plenty in this room; I was overwhelmed by the young folks who came up to shake my hand. I have hope for the next generation. As we head into this midterm season and as the war progresses in the next few weeks, the most important thing is to be on our knees and pray, but once we're up from our knees, we need to take action. Our leaders will hear us if we all speak out. We're at a critical juncture in the war in Iran; we must let our leaders hear that we do not support this war, that there is no vital national security interest, that we want to bring our troops home and work toward peace in that region, and that we do not want twenty plus more years of bloodletting. Heading into this next election cycle, demand from everyone, from every political party, go to your representatives, and say I will not vote for you if you are going to vote for the continuation of these wars overseas. If our country is attacked, we will attack; if there's an imminent attack, we will attack; if there's an actual threat, we will attack and fight that. However, we cannot continue to go down this path. We have to make that clear to our leaders. That's what gives me hope.

The speaker dropped out of Harvard to serve their country, resulting in lost friendships and widespread dislike on campus. They hope people will realize reform is genuinely needed. The speaker believes that the people they are addressing have a real shot at success, noting their dedication and work ethic, working until 2 AM every day of the week.