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This virus likely did not originate naturally; it stems from scientific arrogance. In the early pandemic days, there were claims about a wet market origin, but evidence soon emerged showing many cases unrelated to it. By early January, I informed the National Security Council and Anthony Fauci that the virus was highly infectious in humans, suggesting a lab origin. The Wuhan Institute of Virology is well-known for coronavirus research, making the lab leak theory plausible. Despite discussions, Fauci maintained a focus on the wet market hypothesis, disregarding other possibilities. I believed a broader scientific investigation was necessary, but only a single hypothesis was considered.

The speaker defends their representation of science, stating that vaccinated individuals are unlikely to experience serious illness or transmission, though acknowledging vaccinated people are capable of transmitting the infection. Mask mandates are discussed, with the speaker admitting masks work "at the margins, maybe 10%," while also stating they often wear two masks. The speaker denies recommending lockdowns but admits to advising the president to shut the country down, anticipating economic consequences. The speaker believes school closures may have gone too far but denies they caused irreparable damage. The origin of COVID-19 is debated, with the speaker stating the place of origin was not within the wet market itself, while also stating "I don't think you could say that." The speaker denies NIH funding of gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute, a claim disputed by others who cite NIH funding of research that enhanced a bat coronavirus, making it more contagious. The speaker denies this constitutes gain of function research, leading to heated exchanges.

Treating people like adults and providing qualified information could have potentially prevented lockdowns. However, disagreeing with this perspective, the speaker argues that not knowing the outcome doesn't change the necessity of lockdowns. Lockdowns were implemented when the hospital system in New York was overwhelmed, aiming to halt the spread of the virus. While lockdowns have gained a negative reputation, they were considered a last resort and were never intended to be permanent.

I advised the president to shut down the country, despite knowing it would have economic consequences.

From the start, the lines were drawn regarding the virus's origins. I believed it came from a lab, while others disagreed. My position as head of the CDC was undermined, and I was told it was a White House decision. I find that hard to believe; it seems like a cover-up. Why would we share advanced biotechnology with China? I doubt the measures in place will be foolproof; issues will arise. There have been multiple lies throughout this situation.

I supported COVID mitigation measures like business, church, and school closures, stay-at-home orders, mask mandates for adults and children, and vaccine mandates. These measures were important initially to prevent deaths, but their duration is debatable. Vaccines have saved many lives, but they may not completely prevent infection or transmission in the long term.

I advised the president to shut down the country, despite knowing it would have significant economic consequences. I did not recommend locking anything down, but rather made a difficult decision to protect public health.

I frequently called the secretary of health and human services in Massachusetts, who worked for a republican governor. We discussed whether professional football should be allowed, and we both agreed it shouldn't. We also talked about when restrictions would be eased, and they mentioned it would happen next Monday.

Speaker 0 asserts that there is a new leading cause of death and disease in almost every country worldwide, with the exception of regions that have not taken the shot as aggressively—specifically mentioning Africa and a few Eastern European countries like Bulgaria and Latvia as the only places where death is less than expected. He states that since COVID and the vaccines, there has been an excess mortality of six percent, describing it as dramatic. He argues that if governments were legitimate, and they perceived a six percent excess mortality, they would come together to address it, rather than collaborate in a “scam on the population with the coronavirus operation,” which he claims was funded under the previous administration. He mentions Anthony Fauci in connection with this sentiment, describing Fauci in a way that aligns with the view that the response to the pandemic included a push for vaccination and other measures. The speaker then references Paul Alexander, described as an epidemiologist from Canada who was hired by Trump as an adviser. He asserts that Alexander “gave Trump very different advice” from what he characterizes as the prevailing or leg-based approach, which included opposition to lockdowns and other interventions. The speaker paraphrases Alexander’s alleged guidance as: don’t lock down the population, don’t put diapers on people’s faces, don’t try to vaccinate Rio of the pandemic, calling these positions insane. He also says, “Oh, and by the way, it’s not really a pandemic.” Regarding personal connections, he notes: “I haven’t met Donald Trump myself personally. I cannot give you any personal feedback on my friend Paul Hess and he said, he’s a good man and he was due by Fauci,” adding a brief, non-specific personal comment about Paul Hess, and promising a bit of feedback on that matter.

I recommended shutting down the country to control the spread of infection, but I don't regret it. If we had known earlier, we would have shut down sooner. Some criticize the economic impact, while others question why we didn't shut down earlier if it saved lives. I believe shutting down was necessary to prevent the explosion of infections. Regarding New York's shutdown, I never praised Governor Cuomo for having the highest death rate. That's a misunderstanding.

I advised the president to shut down the country, despite knowing it would have significant economic consequences. I did not recommend locking anything down, but rather made a difficult decision to protect public health.

I sit on a task force at the Department of Defense. They have evidence that Trump believed would cause a civil war if revealed early on. He wanted people to understand the severity of the situation.

Lockdowns failed to stop the spread of the virus or prevent deaths, according to data from various studies. They also caused significant harm to children and are projected to lead to an additional 900,000 to 1,200,000 American deaths due to economic fallout. If the U.S. had followed Sweden's approach, there would have been 1,600,000 fewer deaths. The responsibility for the lockdowns lies with those who implemented them, including federal officials and experts who rejected alternative strategies like targeted protection. This was fundamentally a health policy issue, and the focus should have been on mitigating both the virus's impact and the consequences of the lockdowns. I was the only health policy scholar on the White House task force, dedicated to addressing both aspects of this crisis.

Living inside the Beltway, we didn't fully consider the impact of our decisions on people like Wilk and his family in Minnesota, far from the virus hotspot. Public health officials have a narrow focus on saving lives, disregarding the consequences of disrupting lives, damaging the economy, and keeping kids out of school. This mindset led to unfortunate mistakes in our recommendations.

Gates is depicted as having "incestuous relationships" with Anthony Fauci that go back twenty years, including paying Fauci and a range of corrupt financial entanglements between them. The speaker claims Gates brought Fauci to his $189,000,000 house in Seattle in 2000, sat him down in the den, and said he wanted a partnership with Fauci. Fauci allegedly explains that he would develop drugs and then pass them on to drug companies such as Merck, Sanofi, Gilead, and Johnson & Johnson. Gates would then guarantee markets in Africa through his control of the World Health Organization (WHO). The speaker asserts that those vaccine-producing companies don’t want to supply vaccines to Africa because it’s very uncertain, citing Botswana having a government that says yes this year and not next year. Gates, by controlling WHO, supposedly controls those countries because WHO pays for their health ministries and supplies all their HIV medications, so they must do what WHO tells them to do. The claim is that Gates can require those countries to buy vaccines from these companies, and that he is invested in the companies as well. The transcript asserts that AIDS shows Gates “doesn’t give a crap about public health.” It then lists Gates’s other investments in tobacco companies, processed foods, Coca Cola, Cargill, Monsanto, Philip Morris, Kraft, and cheese. It also states Gates has stakes in virtually all oil companies. The speaker concludes that Gates is not a person who cares about climate or public health, but someone who cares about control. The speaker notes that Gates appeared daily on TV as a public health expert. What was Gates’s message? According to the transcript, it was: you gotta shut down, you gotta lock down, you gotta wear a mask, and it will never end until you take your vaccine, which I’m making for you.

I advised the president to shut down the country, despite knowing it would have significant economic consequences. However, I did not recommend locking anything down.

Speaker 1 defends the decision to recommend a shutdown, stating that it was necessary to control the spread of the virus. They acknowledge that if they had known earlier about the effectiveness of shutting down, they would have done it sooner. Speaker 2 questions the praise for Governor Cuomo's handling of the situation in New York, pointing out the high death rate. Speaker 1 clarifies that they did not praise Cuomo and accuses the senator of misconstruing their words.

The speaker believes criticism of them is an attack on science. They stated vaccinated people don't need to worry about serious illness or transmission, but later acknowledged fully vaccinated people can transmit the infection. Masks were described as working "at the margins, maybe ten percent." School closures were considered an appropriate approach initially, but remote learning may have "forever damaged" kids, though the speaker doesn't believe it's "irreparably damaged anyone." The speaker claims they didn't recommend lockdowns, but recommended shutting the country down to the president, knowing it would have serious economic consequences. The speaker suggests the virus originated from the animal-human interface in wet markets, but that the place of origin was not within the market itself. Another intelligence arm concluded COVID began with a lab leak in China. The speaker denies the NIH funded gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute, while others claim NIH funded research that made a bat coronavirus more contagious. The speaker denies that this is gain of function.

I did not recommend locking down schools. The CDC, as the public health agency, makes recommendations based on their epidemiologists and science. It was a decision made to recommend to the president, not mine to implement. I advised the president to shut down the country when there were only a few cases of community spread, before the major outbreak in the northeastern corridor.

I advised the president to shut down the country despite knowing it would have significant economic consequences. I did not recommend locking anything down, but rather made the difficult decision to shut the country down.

I advised the president to shut down the country, despite knowing it would have significant economic consequences. I did not recommend locking anything down, and it is important to note that shutting everything down was not my suggestion.

I sit on a task force at the Department of Defense. They have important information, and Trump believed that revealing it early would cause a civil war. He thought it was necessary for people to understand the severity of the situation.

There is no separation between what Trump said and did, what the Trump administration did, and what the Fauci Birx policy was. If you think Fauci did a good job, then you're saying Trump and Biden did a good job. If you think the Trump administration had a bad policy that killed people, then you're saying Fauci and Birx advised a bad policy that killed people. President Trump initially supported lockdowns but later opposed them and wanted schools to reopen.

I recommended shutting down the country to control the spread of the virus, but I don't regret it. If I had known earlier that shutting down would be so effective, we would have done it sooner. Some criticize the economic impact, while others question why we didn't shut down earlier if it saves lives. Regarding New York, you misunderstand my support for Cuomo.