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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 weave a dual-themed argument that identifies Rome with Edom and portrays a stark, apocalyptic conflict between Israel and the nations, particularly Christianity. They claim that the Romans identified with Edom are the evil kingdom in the Talmud and that Edom’s deviousness must end. They insist that “the Romans who are identified with Edom… whenever we see evil kingdom in the Talmud is always Rome,” and they repeatedly connect Edom to Amalek as “the grandson of Asav of Edom.” They state that Edom, Rome, and Amalek are essentially the same core force and that this force will be destroyed, with its memory removed from existence at the end of time. They argue that Israel holds a unique, exclusive position: “everything in creation from beginning to end is all about Israel. And it’s all for Israel. We have the Torah which was given to us from heaven and it will be in our hands for eternity.” They declare that “that’s only us” and that “the nations” are not in this plan. God, they assert, “put his name in us” and “revealed himself to the world through us,” calling Israel God’s firstborn son. They claim Christianity and Israel can never coexist, because they are opposites: “There can never be two on top. Only one.” They illustrate this with hand motions, describing one as up and one as down, and compare Catholic rhetoric as a mirror opposite to their own. Speaker 1 adds that the end-time plan involves the destruction of Edom and the false messiah, followed by the appearance of the true messiah, with Messiah ben David gathering the exiles and a third temple being built only after Edom’s fall and the false messiah’s exposure. They connect the end of Edom to the rise of Israel and to Jerusalem being built “properly.” They identify Satan as the archangel for Edom and describe Israel as rising “when Edom and the false messiah” are defeated. There is extensive apocalyptic projection: the world will turn against Israel via the Gog and Magog framework; all 70 nations will oppose Israel; Amalek and Ishmael are fused into broader conflicts between Ishmael, Edom, Christians, and Muslims. They describe Edom’s destruction as the destruction of Western civilization—Europe and the United States—as precursors to a messianic age. They claim that “the whole world’s destruction” will occur, with wars invoked by the “two-part plan” to remove idols and to force a convergence of Jewish law with end-time prophecy. Speaker 3 contributes historical-war context, noting that wars have historically led to the collapse of nations, and that World War II is cited in their framework as part of a longer arc toward a third world war that begins with Halta Deguila (redemption) and becomes the redemption when the Edomites are destroyed. They predict that major future wars will pit Ishmael against Edom and Muslims against Christians, and they recount how the Midrash portrays events culminating in Edom’s destruction before Mashiach’s arrival. Overall, the dialogue centers on a binary cosmic struggle: Israel’s divine exclusivity versus Edom’s (Rome’s) doom, with the end-times script predicting universal opposition to Israel, the downfall of Western powers, and the eventual assembling of a messianic order after the fall of the false messiah.

In America today, we have white supremacy. In the Torah, we had Amalek. Amalek is seen as the eternal enemy of our people whose members found strength by making us suffer. Therefore, when the Lord your God grants you safety from all your enemies around you, in the land that the Lord your God is giving to you as a hereditary portion, you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven. Do not forget. Our rabbinic sages parse these sentences and derive two distinct meanings. Blotting out the memory of Amalek is a military command, literally to destroy Amalek. Now facing today's Amalek, we are reminded that the Torah calls us not just to escape, but to extirpate Amalek. We are commanded to do real and literal battle against it. That means coming off the bench in the fight against white supremacy. Means putting our reputations and our money and our physical bodies on the line. But also so that we are ready to answer people with radically destructive and incoherent versions of history so that we can counter white supremacists, so that we can counter Amalek and blot them out by retaining on our lips and in our records their history. By being bearers of history, we can help guide the future. Blotting out Amalek need not merely be about military conquest. Equally important is ideological victory, and nothing could more readily counter white supremacy than a Jewish community proudly helping our Muslim neighbors. There is nothing that undermines a white supremacist worldview more than diverse communities getting along and building together towards the future.

You don't rape Jewish women, decapitate Jewish babies, and execute Jewish men, and think you're gonna get away for it. You're not gonna get away. As Israel has demonstrated, you're gonna die for it. And that's exactly what you deserve. And that's my view. The way you treat other human beings, these are subhuman monsters. That's what they are. They're called terrorists. It doesn't even seem to matter anymore. Oh, Hamas. Sounds like a food. Oh, man, pass the Hamas. No, I don't think so. No other country in the world, none, is gonna tell Israel what to do, how to defend itself and its people. Period.

Speaker 0: 5,000,000 Jews in Israel and 5,000,000 Jews in America cannot defeat 1,300,000,000 Muslims. But if the Christians are with us, maybe we have a fighting chance. It’s very unpalatable for Jews to love the Christians or to understand even if we don’t love the Christians that we should let the Christians help us. We should let the Christians help us. Speaker 1: What’s going on in the world today? There’s a very big divide. The 70 nations are really 35 and 35, and 35 are controlled by Edom, the Western world (what many consider America), and 35 are controlled by Ishmael, the Arab Muslim world. That world history is coming down to the two powers, the Western world against Ishmael. The question is, who stands last in that great war, which is also called Goy Gomagog. Right now, we are undergoing two simultaneous Golusim, Edom and Yeshma’am. We know that the two nations that will last till Mashiach comes is Rome and Yeshma’am. These are the only two nations that will exist until Mashiach comes. And, we wanna know who’s gonna be the last man standing, Asaph or Ishmael? By the way, my message to both of them is we wish both of them to wipe each other out. And, we all feel very comfortable here in the Western world. Yeah. You know, America will protect us and America will conquer Yeshmaul and then Mashiach will come. But, whatever it is, we wish both sides wiping out the other party. Speaker 2: There’s a battle between Edom and Ishmael. And until the end of days, these two forces will counterbalance. But what’s the greatest danger in the world? The greatest danger is if Eisov and Ishmael ever came together, if they ever united, they would destroy the world. You can never mix and together. When and come together, they destroy the world. Esau and Ishmael two times in history, and those were the two most dangerous moments in the collective history of a Jewish program. When Edom and Ishmael come together, Speaker 3: it brings destruction to the world. Speaker 1: If you wanna know, what would the world look like if the Western world and Ishmael ever got together? Auschwitz.

The speaker discusses the concept of Amalek, representing doubt and evil. They emphasize the need to eradicate Amalek and appoint a king when entering the land of Israel. Another speaker connects Amalek to Western civilization, particularly the United States and Europe. They mention that destroying Amalek is necessary for the completion of God's throne. The audacity to destroy Amalek is highlighted, and the idea of spitting as a symbolic act when leaving Europe is mentioned.

There is a commandment to wipe out the descendants of Amalek, who represent doubt and evil. God instructs us to erase their memory and eradicate them. Asav, the brother of Jacob, is the ancestor of Amalek. Asav is seen as Western civilization, with Christianity being its modern form. Destroying Amalek is necessary to complete the throne of God. Any nation with this religion can be considered a sub. The audacity to destroy Amalek and its offspring is emphasized.

A wide-ranging discussion unfolds, centered on extreme nationalist and apocalyptic themes tied to Jewish identity, anti-Jewish conspiracies, and biblical warfare prescriptions. The speakers present a cascade of provocative assertions, weaving religious injunctions, historical grievances, political critiques, and futuristic fears into a persistent narrative about “Amalek,” Esau/Edom, and the alleged centrality of Jews in world affairs. Key points and claims as presented: - A recurring claim asserts Jewish influence and dominance, described as “beyond any type of rational understanding,” with Jews portrayed as having incalculable global impact despite being a “minute percentage” of the world. - Amalek is treated as a central, timeless evil representing doubt and resistance to Jewish aims. It is described as a nation descended from Esau, whose eradication is commanded. Several speakers insist that “the memory of Amalek” must be wiped out and that God’s throne remains incomplete until Amalek is destroyed. - The destruction of Amalek is tied to the conquest of the land of Israel, with steps that include appointing a king and “destroy Amalek.” Amalek is equated with Esau/Edom, and by extension, with Europe and the United States or Western civilization in some strands, depending on the speaker. - There are explicit exhortations to eliminate Amalek, including references to slaughtering men, women, and children, and to the obliteration of their memory; some speakers articulate this as a mitzvah and a divine obligation. - Several comments link Christianity and Western civilization to Amalek, arguing that Christianity and Israel cannot coexist and that Western institutions are aligned with Amalek’s agenda. - The discourse makes historical and conspiratorial associations (e.g., with Nazism and global control of finance) to justify fears about Jewish influence and to frame contemporary political issues (e.g., U.S. and European actions) as part of an ongoing struggle against Amalek. - There are denunciations of modern political bodies (e.g., the ICC) as tools of antisemitism and as perversions of justice aimed at Israel, juxtaposed with calls for regime change in Iran and Iraq and for broader American and Israeli strategic actions in the Middle East. - The conversation touches on abortion and human life, with a participant presenting a personal tattoo stating “not yet a human,” linking this to broader themes of control over life and autonomy, and tying it into religious and ethical debates. - Reflections on Europe’s transformation toward multiculturalism are framed as prophetic or existential challenges for Jewish communities, with warnings about antisemitism and the defensible necessity of Jewish advocacy. - A strain of dialogue asserts a long Jewish history of civil rights leadership, framing Jews as prominent in social justice movements, LGBTQ+ rights, and interfaith and minority protections, though this is interwoven with other more extreme claims in the broader discussion. - The latter segments include a purported personal testimony about experiences with trans rights and education, referencing Torah, gender diversity, and the historical presence of gender variation in Jewish texts, positioning this within a broader defense of inclusion while still under the umbrella of the surrounding controversial rhetoric. - A final reinforcement arrives with a militarized, apocalyptic motif: the Jew as defender against existential “orcs,” and a claim that Jewish presence in Israel serves as a bulwark against impending catastrophe, coupled with warnings to allies who betray that stance. Overall, the transcript compiles a mosaic of religious-nationalist condemnations, apocalyptic warfare imperatives, and conspiratorial framings, centering on Amalek as an eternal enemy and depicting a supposed divine mandate to erase this threat across generations and geographies.

Speaker 0: Uprooted. Therefore, God tells us we should erase their memory, and we should eradicate them from the face of the earth. So when a Jew enters into Edith, into the land of Israel, what should he do? The first thing appoint a king. Step two, destroy Amalek. Speaker 1: Asaf, who in modern day terms is really basically, you know, certainly one of them is is is America. Asaf became Edoim, which is a nation. Edoim became Rome. Instead of it being Rome, it became Christianity. Christianity, of course, ultimately became Western civilization. So Ace of today is really Western civilization. But the new Rome, United States. But the new realm. Esau is Europe. The United States. Speaker 0: The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Speaker 1: Any nation that has that religion can be considered Esau. Speaker 0: The audacity, the chutzpah to destroy Amalek and to cut off the offsprings of the nation of Amalek. Mister Frie goes on to say, how do how do we do this today? What would be the most Jewish thing for the last Jew to do, the most appropriate fitting thing? One said that the last thing that a Jew should do when he or she leaves Europe is

There's a mitzvah to wipe out the descendants of Amalek, male and female, young and old, because Amalek represents doubt. God tells us to erase their memory and eradicate them. When a Jew enters Israel, the first thing to do is appoint a king, and the second is to destroy Amalek. Amalek comes from Asav, Jacob's brother. Asav became Edom, which became Rome, then Christianity, and ultimately Western civilization. Asav today is Western civilization, specifically the United States and Europe. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Asav. We must destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

God commands Jews entering Israel to appoint a king and destroy Amalek. Amalek originates from Esav, Jacob's brother. Esav, in modern terms, is America. Esav became Edoine, then Rome, then Christianity, and ultimately Western civilization. Esav today is Western civilization, specifically the United States and Europe, the new Rome. The throne of God is incomplete until Amalek is destroyed. Any nation with that religion can be considered Eisav. The most Jewish thing for the last Jew to do when leaving Europe is to destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

It's late at night. Israel is in a fight for their lives. Our friends in Israel are surrounded by people who would kill them all if they could. I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast. A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust. and here we are almost two years later, and Israel's the bad guy.

According to the transcript, there is a mitzvah to wipe out the descendants of Amalek, male and female, young and old, because Amalek represents the concept of doubt. God tells us to erase their memory and eradicate them from the face of the earth. The most Jewish thing for the last Jew to do when leaving Europe is to spit into the land of Israel. The first thing to do is appoint a king, then destroy Amalek, who comes from Asav, brother to Jacob. Asav, in modern terms, is America. Asav became Edouin, then Rome, then Christianity, and ultimately Western civilization. Therefore, Asav today is Western civilization. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Asav. There is audacity to destroy Amalek and cut off the offspring of the nation of Amalek.

We remember what Amalek has done to us, as our holy bible says. Our brave troops and combatants in Gaza and throughout Israel are continuing the legacy of Jewish heroes that began 3000 years ago with Joshua Benun. From the heroes of 1948 to the 6 Day War and the 73 October War, we stand united in our fight against our enemies.

Hamas aims to eradicate Israel and kill Jews, having already murdered 1,300 civilians. We must defeat them to prevent future attacks. This battle is not just ours, but a battle for civilization against barbarism. If we don't stop this savagery, it will soon affect the entire world.

Amalek represents doubt and hostility towards Jews, and it is a mitzvah to eradicate their memory completely. This includes men, women, and children, as Amalek embodies traits that threaten Jewish existence. The Torah commands the destruction of Amalek upon entering Israel, emphasizing the need for a king and the elimination of this enemy. Amalek is linked to historical adversaries, including the Nazis, and is seen as a source of evil. The ongoing struggle against Amalek is a divine mandate, reflecting a broader spiritual battle. The call to remember Amalek's actions serves as a reminder of the obligation to confront and eliminate such threats to Jewish survival.

I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. Israel is our friend. They're a democracy surrounded by people who would cut their throats if they could. A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy. That's ridiculous. Israel is not the bad guy. They're the good guy. The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could. When it comes to foreign policy, president Trump has stood up for all the right things, and he stood up against wrong things just like Reagan.

Amalek, a descendant of Asaph, must be totally uprooted and eradicated from the earth. Amalek comes from Asav, the brother of Jacob. Asav, in modern terms, is America. Asav became Edoine, then Rome, and eventually Christianity, which transformed into Western civilization. Therefore, Asav today is Western civilization, including Europe and the United States. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Esau, and we have the audacity to destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

During an eight-day remembrance of the Holocaust, Speaker 0 frames the period in the 1930s and 1940s when the Nazi government murdered, among others, a large number of Jews. He references a claim that a head of state said, “our job here is to kill everybody, including their children because the bloodline itself must be extinguished.” He adds that he is opposed to Hitler, but he questions whether Hitler ever made such a statement, saying, “I don't think Hitler ever said anything like that. I'm serious. I mean, he killed a ton of people, including a ton of Jews. Of course. But I don't think was Hitler ever on the record saying we need to exterminate every single member of a specific bloodline?” In response, Speaker 0 mentions that Netanyahu just said that last week and that he said it many other times. The conversation concludes with Speaker 0 calling the situation “bonkers.”

Speaker 0 explains that Netanyahu evokes Jewish history in his religious text and sentiment to rally support for attacks, and that Nurode explains this increases right-wing sentiment in Israel. Speaker 1 notes that when Netanyahu announced the offensive against Iran, he did not just discuss threats but invoked Jewish history, drawing parallels with Jews rising up against Persian enslavement more than two thousand years ago. Speaker 2 adds: “My brothers and sisters, in two days, we celebrate the holiday of Purim. Two thousand five hundred years ago in ancient Persia, an enemy rose against us with the exact same goal of destroying our people.” Speaker 1 continues: “A day later, Netanyahu invoked scripture describing the government in Tehran as Amalek, the ultimate enemy in the Old Testament, the enemy whose memory and existence must be erased.” Speaker 2: “We read in this week's Torah portions. Remember what Amalek did to you. We remember and we act.” Speaker 1 remarks that this is not the first time Netanyahu has used the Amalek reference to justify violence against an adversary. In fact, his reference to Palestinians as Amalek was cited during hearings in the genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice. Speaker 0 states that inciting religious fervor is not unique to Netanyahu; it’s a popular tactic among right-wing and populist leaders to rally support, and it often pays off. She cites opinion polls to illustrate how widespread these sentiments are: a Hebrew University poll on Israel’s war on Gaza found 75% of Jewish Israelis believe there are no innocence in Gaza; a survey by the Institute for National Security released last month shows 78% of Israelis consider Iran a serious threat. Speaker 1 adds that mixing scripture with mainstream politics is playing with fire and has led to talk of a greater Israel spanning from the Euphrates to the Nile River and erasing existing Arab countries in the process, an ambition referenced not only by Netanyahu but also by the head of the opposition in Israel. Speaker 0 concludes with the attribution: Jahan Bin.

Erase the memory of Amalek, as commanded. When entering the land of Israel, the first step is to appoint a king, followed by the destruction of Amalek. Amalek descends from Esau, who represents modern-day Western civilization, particularly America and Europe. The throne of God remains incomplete until Amalek is destroyed. Any nation embodying that ideology can be seen as Amalek. The imperative is to eradicate Amalek and its descendants. The most fitting action for the last Jew leaving Europe is to fulfill this command.

Israel is in a fight for their lives. I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that; they choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. And that's the big difference, folks. Israel is our friend—the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast—a democracy surrounded by people who would cut their throats if they could. A word of warning: if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. President Trump has stood with Israel at the most difficult time since his founding; October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy. The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could.

Jewish people have allegedly aimed to control the world for thousands of years, according to the speaker. They believe this is supported by a book of God. Another speaker suggests that in Jewish understanding, the term "Edom" refers to Christianity. The first speaker then discusses the fate of non-Jews when the Messiah comes, stating that they will cease to exist as individuals and as a nation. This is referred to as cultural genocide by some.

Speaker 0 explains the distinction between Edom and Amalek. He says Amalek is Germany, and Edom is the grandfather of Amalek. He asks, who is Edom? He states Edom includes most of Europe and includes the United States of America. He describes the Roman Empire as the one that “never was never destroyed,” and asserts that Italy is the seat of the Roman Empire of Edom. Even though Edom is scattered, many other nations today that speak Latin languages, and even America, are part of Edom. He concludes that Edom is everywhere, and the United States of America is also part of Edom. Speaker 1 references Hashem, saying, “This is what Hashem said.” He notes we do not know who Amalek is, and we assume it is the Germans after what they did in the Holocaust, not only to the Jews, but to the whole world. He adds that it is not only the Germans, but most of the European countries, and that is where Amalek is.

Negative commandment 59 instructs us to eradicate the descendants of Amalek, representing doubt and negativity. Amalek must be completely uprooted, as God commands us to erase their memory. Upon entering the land of Israel, the first steps are to appoint a king and destroy Amalek, who descends from Esav, Jacob's brother. In modern terms, Esav symbolizes Western civilization, particularly the United States and Europe, which are seen as contemporary manifestations of Amalek. The destruction of Amalek is essential for the fulfillment of God's throne. The audacity to confront Amalek is emphasized, and it is suggested that the last act of a Jew leaving Europe should be to spit, symbolizing rejection of Amalek's influence.

Netanyahu referenced a biblical passage to Israeli troops, urging them to remember what Amalek had done. Critics argue that he used this as a justification for the genocide of Palestinians. They claim he commanded his troops to kill even infants and animals, aiming to utterly destroy everything in Palestine. This perspective views Netanyahu as a madman using religion to justify modern-day genocide.