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They stopped counting votes on election night to determine the number of real votes and apply mail-in ballots. The speaker believes this would have happened in Texas and considers it fraud. When asked if it could have been a water leak, the speaker insists it was planned and would have occurred in Texas. They question the unprecedented three-hour halt in counting while Trump was leading in several states. The speaker asserts that anyone could have filled out the mail-in ballots, making it impossible to know their origin. When challenged about the conspiracy theory, the speaker claims to have witnessed it firsthand.

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The discussion centers on the integrity of the 2020 election processes and how Georgia’s handling of audits and recounts could shape reforms for 2026. Speaker 0 argues that ensuring elections represent the will of the people is fundamental, noting that Trump and his allies made a spectacle in 2020 by pursuing audits and recounts and even the Capitol insurrection, yet Georgia, among other states, would not have allowed Trump to win even without Georgia’s results. They claim Democrats and progressives avoided touching the issue in 2024 despite Trump’s unexpected nationwide sweep, and criticize the inability to conduct a proper recount. Speaker 1 warns that Trump’s team is likely to present ballots and photographs from 2020 to claim irregularities, arguing that there were thousands of irregularities in Fulton County, with miscounts and ballot manipulation possible, though there is no evidence that these irregularities would have changed the Georgia result. They contend that irregularities occurred both ways and tended to offset, but many records were destroyed and the recount and audit lacked quality. The speaker asserts that 2026 must avoid untrustworthy machines and inadequate audit/recount processes. The speakers discuss the possibility that Trump’s supporters will use information from the DOJ to misrepresent the facts, stating that even if facts were presented, they would expose known errors in the certified processes. They allege that ballots were counted multiple times during the recount, including counting some ballots two or three times and even introducing fake test ballots to force outcomes. Marilyn is cited as noting that a Barack Obama appointee judge confirmed the unreliability of Dominion machines, and that a demonstration at DEF CON Voting Village showed how easily a Dominion machine could be hacked. Jessica is referenced as discussing Phil Davis, a pro-Trump election integrity figure who admitted that Biden won Georgia despite his broader views. The point is to emphasize that, even among election integrity experts with conservative leanings, there is belief that Biden won Georgia. The conversation returns to Raffensperger, who selected the machines and the audit/recount method, spending approximately $150 million on machines and avoiding transparency about errors. The guests argue that the law required a hand count at tables with representatives from both campaigns and the clerk, instead of a machine-only recount. Bypassing this process enabled the perception of fraud and contributed to the January 6 insurrection’s fuel in Georgia. A key lesson for 2026, they assert, is to implement a transparent process with hand counts and representative participation at counting tables, preventing the bypass of proper procedures and reducing the political pressure that distorts outcomes. They critique the atmosphere surrounding the 2020 aftermath as vilifying and pressure-filled, predicting a similar environment in 2026 unless genuine transparency and nonpartisan verification are pursued.

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They stopped counting votes on election night to determine how many mail-in ballots to add, which the speaker believes was fraudulent. The speaker insists it was a planned event, claiming it wouldn't happen in Texas. They express concern over the authenticity of mail-in ballots and assert that anyone could have filled them out. The other person questions the validity of these claims, but the speaker stands by their belief based on personal experience.

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The speaker argues that Democrats launched “stage three great scandals” to destroy the Trump administration and democracy, listing: “They impeached Donald Trump twice. No one's ever done that.” “They raided his home in Mar A Lago.” “They tried to get him off the ballot in 25 states.” “There were two assassination attempts during the campaign.” “They tried to debank him and make it impossible for Donald Trump to write a check, whether from Morgan Stanley or Bank of America or any bank.” He cites James Carville's claim: “we're gonna get tough, we're gonna get really tough and we're gonna let in Puerto Rico and Washington DC to get four senators or we might have to pack the court to 13.” “You were going to pack to 15.” He adds that “if you had not lost the House and Senate during the Biden administration… you would have abolished the senate.”

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Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, called for the censorship of a video showing evidence of wrongdoing by the federal government and the police department controlled by Nancy Pelosi. He claimed that showing the video was a threat to democracy. Schumer was joined by Mitch McConnell and other Republicans in their outrage and calls for censorship. This reaction stems from fear and panic because the videos challenge the lies they have been telling. It is clear that they are all on the same side, regardless of party affiliation, and are aligned against everyone else. This incident reveals their shared interests and exposes their true intentions.

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While on the oversight committee in the senate, Dominion was investigated. The president of Dominion and his software maker testified. Questions focused on whether Dominion machines had internet access. The president of Dominion said no, but this was a lie. The investigation was published, recorded, and should be online.

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I witnessed numerous instances of irregularities during the election process. GOP challengers and I were not allowed to perform our duties properly, as Michigan laws require. Procedures were not followed, and our concerns were dismissed. We observed ballots being backdated and data being entered incorrectly. There have been many reports of voter fraud, including dead people voting. I have shared this information with Republican senators and representatives. The most important election in our history is at stake, and it is crucial for legislators to defend the constitution. Despite media claims, there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud. Time is of the essence.

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Over 1,500,000 fraudulent votes counted, and the spread is less than 82,000 votes. These fraudulent votes come from dead voters, ballots that were received before they were supposedly mailed out, and over 330,000 electronic spikes from the voting machine. 205,000 over votes, meaning there were 205,000 more votes than registered voters, and 682,000 ballots that were illegally processed without any oversight whatsoever. More than 1,500,000 votes in Pennsylvania is apparently what it took for Joe Biden to steal the state. Georgia has a similar phenomenon that Democrats are failing to account for. 66,248 underage voters voted in Georgia. 10,315 dead people voted. 2,500 convicted felons voted. Nearly 200,000 votes were fraudulently inserted into the vote instantaneously. 4,500 votes come from unregistered voters. These numbers show a clear pattern that a variety of types of fraud occurred in this election and that Democrats are desperately trying to cover it up. They're going to great lengths to change the narrative of the election fraud in an effort to run up the clock to 01/20/2020. In addition to president Trump's team, many independent groups have completed research on the fraud and the results are staggering. Totaling across the country, millions of votes were fraudulently covered up, changed, or deleted in favor of Joe Biden. The governors and secretaries of state have actively participated in the cover up. Removing information from their website that is normally easily accessible to the public and depriving conservatives a chance to audit or review the results are just some of their tactics. In Arizona, the final result is only a difference of 10,457, yet 36,400 non citizens voted in the state. Arizona also experienced phantom spikes from the voting machines to the tune of roughly 50,000 additional votes going to Joe Biden. These numbers come from information that is publicly available, whether from the secretary of state's website before the content was removed or from the raw data that was pushed out on election night.

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In June of 2021, we informed them about our suspicion of over 25,000 counterfeit ballots. However, the GOP and conservative operatives spread propaganda to undermine our credibility. Despite having ample time to prevent a repeat in 2022, they chose to do nothing. As a result, they enabled the same fraudulent activity to occur again in 2020.

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President Trump won so many votes that he blew up the algorithm created before the election to shave votes from Trump and give them to Biden. There is direct evidence of this happening in multiple counties and states, and it happened across the country. Thousands of ballots moved from one state to another in the middle of the night to backfill the machines, perpetrating fraud. Evidence has been uploaded to defendingtherepublic.org.

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Speaker 0: They reject the rule of law and the will of the people, refusing to accept the election results. Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, May 16, 2017, claimed our election was hijacked and there is no doubt about it. Speaker 2: Even if you run a great campaign, become the nominee, the election can still be stolen from you. Speaker 0: Trump did not truly win the 2016 election; he lost. Speaker 1: He knows he's an illegitimate president who didn't really win. How do we fight against him in 2020? He's illegitimate. Speaker 3: He's illegitimate, and my biggest fear is that he'll do it again with the help of his pal Vlad. We'll be stuck with him for 6 more terrifying years. Speaker 0: Would you be my vice presidential candidate? I agree. Speaker 1: Bush versus Gore, a court took away the presidency. Al Gore was the true winner. Speaker 4: I believe I won the last presidential election. They stole it. Speaker 0: Al Gore won that election, or at least I think he did. Speaker 5: Rolling Stone questioned if the 2004 election was stolen. Speaker 4: I witnessed troubling evidence that not every vote was counted in Illinois 4 years ago. Speaker 1: The November 2, 2004 election was not transparent or accurate. There are legitimate questions about our election system's accuracy. Despite the final tally, I have one affirmative statement to make.

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I was going to discuss the January 6 hostages, but there's a lot of action coming on that front. Today, Joe issued pardons for individuals guilty of serious crimes, and the unselect committee has destroyed much of the evidence, including hearings. They deleted information about Nancy Pelosi rejecting an offer of 10,000 soldiers for security. Even 500 could have made a difference that day, despite the large crowd. There are many great photos from that day that aren't shown, focusing instead on the Capitol. I intended to address this, but was advised to wait until tomorrow. I decided to bring it up now.

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The speaker claims that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election, with many votes being purged and deleted. They suggest that this fraud was enough to secure a Republican victory. They criticize Joe Biden and the Democrats for opposing efforts to investigate this alleged fraud, accusing them of wanting to cancel any discussion about the election. The speaker believes that the Democrats are afraid of being caught in their wrongdoing.

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Speaker 0: If it's unfair and costly, why not give him the mic? I've answered the question. Sit down, I didn't call you. Look at the inaccurate CNN polls, that's voter suppression. Georgia? I'm not responding to you, I'm talking to this gentleman. Please sit down. The House of Representatives is hostile, such a sad media. You rudely interrupted him.

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Eric Spakane, a forensic chemist and forensic document analyst, testified that there were about 25,000 ballots not printed from the official Dominion PDF ballot. He said the printing process and appearance are completely different than what you would get from a first generation PDF printing. He explained that in Maricopa County there were approximately 5,012 or a little over 5,000 different ballot permutations and combinations due to different races and districts, and this is multiplied by two because there is a Spanish version for each ballot. In total, about 5,000 different ballots are created ahead of time and are created in PDF. These PDFs are prepared in advance for mail-in ballots and for early voting, which uses vote on demand, allowing someone to vote in a downtown location using a ballot from their area. He noted that PDFs are high quality, and when printed they should look roughly the same as the PDF, but he found that the quality of these ballots degraded when printed, compared to on-demand or third-party provider printing. Spakane stated that in the group of ballots he examined, the election subcontractor Minion produced ballots for each zone or district involved in the area he looked at in Maricopa County. He reiterated that there were about 5,000 approximately different ballots, reflecting the various races and jurisdictions (e.g., two different senator races, multiple house races, and all permutations and combinations). He claimed that about 25,000 ballots were not printed from the official Dominion PDF ballot, and that the printing process produced marks that did not align with the perfect lines and breaks seen in the PDFs. He observed that early voting ballots and election-day ballots from various polling locations showed printing with breaks in all the same places around an oval, indicating imperfections in the lines at the same spots on every ballot. Speaker 1 stated that these 25,000 unidentifiable ballots alone represent over double Joe Biden's 10,457 vote mark. He framed this as a comparison to the election results. Speaker 2 claimed that in July 2021, and even in June earlier, they suspected that there were 25,000 plus counterfeit or inauthentic ballots. He attributed this to propaganda by the GOP’s attorney and other conservative operatives who allegedly planted the seed that “you can't trust that.” He asserted that everyone up there knew this in advance, even before the hearing, and criticized those involved for not reacting to prevent duplication in 2022, saying they did nothing and allowed it to be done again.

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On January 6th, there were different opinions on what should happen. Some believed that Vice President Pence had the power to reject electors whose certification was still pending. However, others, including myself, disagreed with this idea. I advised Vice President Pence to instead grant a week to the state legislators in swing states to address the alleged election irregularities. Not everyone agreed that there were irregularities significant enough to change the election outcome without legal proceedings. Ultimately, this led to the situation we find ourselves in now.

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They stopped counting votes on election night to determine the number of real votes and how many mail-in ballots were applicable. The speaker believes this would have been done in Texas and considers it fraud. They are convinced it was planned and not just a water leak. The speaker questions if it is possible to stop counting ballots when everyone is watching. They have never seen it before and were suspicious because Trump was leading in several states. The speaker argues that anyone could have filled out the mail-in ballots, making it impossible to know their origin. They claim to have witnessed this happening.

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They stopped counting votes on election night to determine the number of real votes and apply mail-in ballots. The speaker believes this would have happened in Texas and considers it fraud. When asked if it could have been a water leak, the speaker insists it was planned and would have occurred in Texas. They question if anyone has ever seen ballots not being counted for three hours while Trump was leading in states. The speaker asserts that anyone could have filled out the mail-in ballots and their origin cannot be determined. When challenged about it being a dangerous conspiracy theory, the speaker claims to have witnessed it happening.

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Votes were stopped from being counted on election night to determine how many legitimate votes there were, which would influence the number of mail-in ballots to apply. This was perceived as a planned act of fraud. The unusual pause in counting, especially while Trump was leading, raised suspicions about the legitimacy of mail-in ballots, as there was no way to verify their origins. The situation felt orchestrated, and the experience left a strong impression of wrongdoing.

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Thousands of ballots moved between states at night to manipulate the election. President Trump's overwhelming votes disrupted their plan to shift votes from Biden to him. Evidence shows this fraud in multiple counties and states. It's clear to anyone who looks at the real evidence. Visit defendingtherepublic.org for more information.

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The speaker discusses a bill that removes the Board of Canvassers' power to investigate fraud during recounts, shifting it to partisan officials. They highlight threats faced by a board member and criticize the bill for hindering fraud detection. The speaker expresses outrage at the Democrats' actions and questions their motives.

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During my time in the Senate's oversight committee, we examined Dominion. The proceedings were recorded and are available online. The president of Dominion and his software engineer testified, primarily addressing whether their machines had Internet access. The president claimed there was no Internet access, which I believe was false.

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On January 6th, the speaker explains that the riot was incited by the feds because they wanted to prevent the debate and adjudication of the election in the Senate. They wanted to take away Trump's presidency and destroy the executive branch. Steve Bannon refused to testify to the committee because of executive privilege, which legally prevented him from sharing his conversations with Trump. The speaker believes that Obama's ego is controlling things behind the scenes, and Joe Biden is not the best person to run the government. The riot disrupted the planned debate, and Pence was never asked to overturn the election, just to send it back to the states for further review.

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I want to reclaim my time, Mr. Chairman. The house committees issued a subpoena for a closed-door deposition after our first five offers were ignored. Republicans misuse this tactic to leak and mischaracterize witness statements.

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Speaker 0: I won, but they cheated. We were robbed of an election. Speaker 1: I don't think it's dangerous to use words like rigged and steal because we can back it up. Speaker 0: The election was stolen from the voters, not just from me. I won't concede because our democracy is being eroded. Speaker 1: The election was not free and fair. Thousands of Georgians had their voices stolen. We can't guarantee their votes will be counted in 2020. Speaker 2: Should the Democratic nominee concede if they can prove widespread voter suppression? Speaker 1: No, we shouldn't concede until we know the results. If it looks like cheating or rigging, it probably is. Speaker 0: We've been taught to accept defeat, but I refuse to concede. The process was not fair. Speaker 1: The election was stolen from Georgia voters. As long as eligible citizens can't vote, the system is rigged. I didn't lose, I just didn't win. Speaker 0: I didn't win officially. We don't know what really happened because of voter suppression. Speaker 1: He is the legal governor, but that doesn't mean he won legitimately. Speaker 0: Just because you win doesn't mean you won. We'll never know for sure if I got more votes. Speaker 1: I refuse to concede because it wasn't fair or right. He performed poorly and crassly against the people he represents. Speaker 1: Georgia voters were suppressed, their votes weren't counted. Brian Kemp dismantled our democracy. Speaker 0: I recognize I'm not the governor, but we won.
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