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This is the most unbelievable thing I think I've ever seen. God is here and you can feel it. Charlie would have loved this. The story of Jesus shows the truth about those in power—‘the worst thing that you can do, is telling the truth about people and they hate it.’ ‘We’ve got to shut this guy up. Why don’t we just kill him? That’ll shut him up.’ ‘Blessed are those who mourn for they will be comforted.’ The main thing about Charlie’s message was that he was bringing the gospel and calling for repentance. ‘Politics is not the final answer.’ ‘The only real solution is Jesus.’ Christianity begins with repentance: ‘forgive us our sins… And then it becomes possible to forgive other people.’ That is the only way forward in this country. He was fearless; there was no hate in his heart. Thank you and God bless.

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"And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on, we lost something important in America today. But, the case goes on. The investigation goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter. They have a couple hot leads. There's a little bit of foreign intelligence. And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more, and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today. Yeah. I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest. That's the latest I heard from law That's correct. Law enforcement. You're hearing the same thing."

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Charlie was murdered for boldly using his voice to stand up for the truth, for the bible, and for God. And silence from the pulpit is just not acceptable. The season of lukewarm Christianity is over. My church called it what it is, demonic and evil, and that's called leadership. I'm hoping that we see churches so flooded with people tomorrow like we've never before. But if your pastor is too afraid to even acknowledge what happened tomorrow or worse, too politically correct to take a stand, then I'm telling you, it's time to find a new church. This is not business as usual. This is spiritual warfare.

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The speaker discusses Erica Kirk and a sequence of variant names connected to her. They begin by asserting familiarity with Erica Kirk and then pivot to a narrative about Erica Fransve (her birth name) and Erica Kirk (the name after marrying Charlie in 2020). The central question posed is: who is Erica Chelsvig? Key claims and sequence: - Erica Fransveig was her maiden name; Erica Kirk was her name after marrying Charlie in 2020; Erica Chelsvig is described as a name she supposedly bore at another point in time. - The speaker asserts they learned the name Erica Chelsvig only two days after Charlie Kirk’s funeral, after being awakened at 02:30 in the morning. - They claim to have been a large Erica Kirk fan prior to this discovery, and that the “truth” about Erica Chelsvig had emerged suddenly and unexpectedly. - The speaker alleges that information about Erica Chelsvig has “officially scrubbed from the Internet” the very next day, and that only the speaker’s aunt managed to discover and retain it. - They state that, despite being on vacation, the world will learn who Erica Chelsvig is, but not via a Google search. - The speaker asks, “So who is Erica Chelsvig auntie?” and then outlines a backstory: Erica Fransveig (maiden name); Erica Kirk (name after marriage); Erica Chelsvig (name in between, or at another point). - They note that the Chelsvig name is Romanian and remark on the odds of that, calling the world an evil place and suggesting not everything is what it seems. - The speaker claims that Erica Kirk, Gronzevay, Chelsbank, formerly, is “accidentally spilling the beans one by one,” and asserts that what is done in the dark will come to light. - They emphasize their belief that the truth is true when it needs to be scrubbed from the Internet, and question why it would be scrubbed if there wasn’t something to hide. - A further variation is mentioned: “Erica Kerr, formerly Chelsvig,” and with it, a prompt to “screenshot and read the rest” while on vacation. - The speaker reiterates that “what used to be on the Internet” was removed days after Charlie’s funeral, and that when the holy spirit speaks, you listen and you screenshot, and the truth will always come to life.

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Candace ain't lying, guys. I know it for a fact. None of us really know. 'they're literally telling us to look at the wall that is purple and say and we say it's purple and they say, no. No. No. Look closer. It's it's yellow.' 'How do we best honor Charlie's death and legacy than figuring out who the hell killed him and why and how?' 'There is absolutely something going on in that organization. There was something going on prior to his assassination. There's absolutely something going on right now, and they do not want us to know.' 'This is a real source. This is a real text message.' 'We fight to figure out what the hell it is they don't want us to know.' I hope that helps.

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And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on to, we lost something important in America today. But, the case goes on. The investigation goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter. They have a couple hot leads. There's a little bit of foreign intelligence. And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today. Yeah. I hope so. I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest. That's the latest I heard from law That's correct. Law enforcement. You're hearing the same thing.

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"Candace ain't lying, guys. I know it for a fact." "We all know that these narratives they're spinning out that they're putting out don't make any sense. They don't make any sense at all." "We don't know who killed him, why it was done, or how it was done." "None of us really know." "If you're actually believing what these people are telling us, you're cooked." "No. No. No. Look closer. It's it's yellow. What are you talking about?" "How do we best honor Charlie's death and legacy than figuring out who the hell killed him and why and how?" "There is absolutely something going on in that organization." "There was something going on prior to his assassination." "There's absolutely something going on right now, and they do not want us to know." "We fight to figure out what the hell it is they don't want us to know."

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Discussion centers on Charlie's views and reactions: "He was pro pro second amendment and so on." Speakers expect backlash: "People are gonna talk shit and say, see, is why." They reference a video "right before he gets hit," noting: "As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, when I'm watching the video right before he gets hit, was." The talk shifts to mass shootings: "Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Counting or not counting gang violence. Great." One participant adds, "I didn't watch it except for So" while another says, "he's literally they're literally asking him about mass shootings. I don't find that to be a coincidence either." The closing claim: "If I had my guess, this is a deep state hit. 100%. Our country's on the brink."

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Speaker honors Charlie as driven by Christianity and devotion to God, urging us to 'live our lives in perfect imitation of Christ' and to turn 'every day and every moment and every interaction into a prayer.' He says Charlie understood that 'it's only by surrender to God that God's power can flow into our lives and make us effective human beings.' Charlie's passions included free speech; 'the free flow of information was the soil, the water, the sunlight for democracy' and conversation as a healer of division. Personal notes recount a granddaughter leaving for college in Europe, 'packed a bible' and saying 'I want to live more like Charlie.' In a July 2021 talk they discussed 'the risks that all of us take when we challenge entrenched interests, the physical risk.'

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Speaker emphasizes that "the last question he took" and "the last thing he talked about to people in Utah, thousands of people that wanted to come hear him, is that his message was one of love, of Jesus Christ, of his belief in prayer, and he talked about that from his heart," and calls it an honor to be there, though it's "an embarrassment." He says, "There is somebody out there who's evil. Absolute, total, complete evil, and they need to be taken down." He praises "Our law enforcement, I love them. They gotta do a better job," but notes "There is no communication." "You have a 100,000 students between BYU and the University of Utah." They say "somebody's in custody, then they say, oh, well, it's not the shooter." "Right now, police are still pouring in. It's almost three hours later. They gotta communicate with this." He asks, "Is there a shooter that's still out there? And if so, what are we going to do to catch this evil person and make sure that he receives justice?" He states, "That's what we're feeling in this community right now." "But his message of love of God, of Jesus Christ, is one that I hope is part of his lasting legacy."

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Speaker 0 asserts openness to many topics but not to the theory that Tyler Robinson didn’t kill Charlie, and questions who else was involved or if there were other voices in the row. They state the evidence in the case is incredibly watertight and express a desire to focus on broader issues rather than debating that point. They call attention to the rise of left-wing violence, mental health illness in the country, and young people on the progressive side turning to Mangioneism and assassination culture, suggesting they can solve political disputes by justifying violence. They accuse the current discussion of veering into rabbit trails and acknowledge good-faith questions, while noting that they’ve been lied to. They emphasize the harm caused to their team, staff, and movement by the issue, describing it as carnage, and express a wish not to see more of that and to move through the situation sooner rather than later.

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And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on, we lost something important in America today. But, the case goes on. The investigation goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter. They have a couple hot leads. There's a little bit of foreign intelligence. And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more, and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today. Yeah. I hope so. I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest. That's the latest I heard from law That's correct. Law enforcement. You're hearing the same thing.

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Speaker asserts 'Candace ain't lying, guys. I know it for a fact.' They warn against attacking anyone who asks questions and labeling them conspiracy theorists, noting those questions are often raised by 'typically conspiracy theorists.' They claim 'these narratives they're spinning out... don't make any sense' and that 'None of us really know. Like, if you're actually believing what these people are telling us, you're cooked.' They describe a contradiction: 'look at the wall that is purple... it's purple' and 'Look closer. It's yellow.' They ask, 'What are you talking about?' and argue the way to honor Charlie is by figuring out 'who the hell killed him and why and how.' They state 'There is absolutely something going on in that organization' before and after the assassination and that 'they do not want us to know.' To honor Charlie, 'we fight to figure out what the hell it is they don't want us to know.'

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss a conspiracy surrounding Charlie’s death, challenging the official narrative. - Speaker 0 says, “we definitely penetrated our water jugs,” and notes this won’t stop conspiracy theories. “His head fell off. I figured this is probably what would happen. I was trying to remain optimistic, but that right there is why people are skeptical on the official story.” They state, “The thirty aught six is a very hard round to stop.” - Speaker 1 adds that they want to illustrate what the federal government is selling, and asserts, “that particular bullet would have decapitated Charlie.” They describe the idea that the bullet ricocheted and went inward as “beyond ridiculous” and “insulting.” They criticize attempts to present a certain narrative with goofball public figures, saying, “they think that if they send out these, like, glee boys, like Nick Fuentes… then a bunch of hunters are gonna go, yeah. I see what you mean, man.” They declare that the scenario is never going to happen. - They foresee two possible outcomes: either the government will declare war on the American people because the public won’t accept their account, or they will have to “give us something that’s truthful.” They insist someone must come forward with something that makes sense. - Speaker 1 expresses a belief that the conspiracy is far-reaching, likening it to the JFK assassination, and claims that people close to Charlie are aware of things and “sold him out in many ways every single day.” They argue that the more the truth is avoided and the anxiety surrounding the night before Charlie died is downplayed, the guiltier those involved appear. - They state a conviction that the Deep State is involved in the assassination and that multiple states are implicated. They contend those responsible “don’t know what to do” and have “completely come undone” because they believed wealth and power would let them get away with it. However, they suggest “common sense seems to be ruling the roost.” Overall, the speakers argue that the official explanation is implausible, predict governmental evasions or manipulation, and contend that a deep-state-backed conspiracy involving multiple states may be uncovering itself as untenable under scrutiny. They emphasize the need for truthful disclosure rather than continued obfuscation.

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"Charlie inspired millions, and tonight, all who knew him and loved him are united in shock and horror." "Charlie was a patriot who devoted his life to the cause of open debate and the country that he loved so much, The United States Of America." "He's a martyr for truth and freedom, and there's never been anyone who was so respected by youth." "Charlie was also a man of deep, deep faith, and we take comfort in the knowledge that he is now at peace with God in heaven." "Our prayers are with his wife, Erica, the two young, beloved children, and his entire family who he loved more than anything in the world." "Charlie Kirk traveled the nation joyfully engaging with everyone interested in good faith debate." "Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives." "An assassin tried to silence him with a bullet, but he failed because together, we will ensure that his voice, his message, and his legacy will live on for countless generations to come."

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Speaker 0 expresses grief over Charlie Kirk’s death, acknowledging it’s been difficult and that Charlie may have been a political pawn. He notes Trump’s non-reaction as upsetting. John and Irina Mappin publish a public statement praising Charlie: "Charlie Kirk built Turning Point USA on transparency, free speech, and a relentless pursuit of truth." They state: "If Candace Owens had been assassinated, Charlie would have torn apart every lie" and "Charlie did not sleep for several days and several nights just to ensure that J. D. Vance became the vice presidential nominee." They condemn the investigation as troubling—"a crime scene apparently completely destroyed in days, and plenty of evidence that simply does not add up"—and urge officials to share everything with Candace’s team. "Justice needs not just to be done, it needs to be seen to be done justly," and they invoke "There is a relationship between truth and God." They praise Candace’s journalism, urge truth.

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Approve of evil. You're not helping people. You're hurting them when you do that. You know, in the passage that everybody reads at their wedding, but nobody obeys, first Corinthians 13, Paul says, love does not rejoice in wrongdoing. Love rejoices in the truth. Love always protects. Love always perseveres. If you wanna love people, you protect them. You don't enable them to do evil. You don't approve of what they wanna do that god doesn't want them to do. And to the people who hate Charlie, to the people who celebrate his murder, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. Charlie was doing this to reach out to you. Charlie was doing this to love you. You don't love people by enabling their continued rebellion against the God of the universe. The man in the white hat was me. Don't believe in these crazy conspiracy theories. Charlie Kirk was literally like a son to me. I have three sons. He was like my fourth son. We drove four miles somewhat. Charlie was killed instantly and felt absolutely no pain. He was with Jesus, absent from the body, present with the Lord. Mikey McCoy is an absolute hero. The hospital staff and the law enforcement were amazing. Catherine Locastro came...

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The speaker explains that in the three months since Charlie Kirk was murdered, they have avoided public commentary on the murder investigation out of care for Charlie and respect for the people involved, many of whom they know personally and admire. They emphasize that their goal is truth and justice, and they would not criticize anyone sincerely trying to uncover what happened, recognizing that good motives can lead to wrong conclusions. They recount a three-hour conversation with Theo Vaughan that touched on distrust of the FBI. They clarify this did not mean they accused anyone of involvement in Charlie Kirk’s murder, but it gave them the chance to state that they do not trust the FBI. They distinguish personal trust in individuals (e.g., Dan Bongino, whom they like, and Cash Patel) from trust in the FBI as an institution, noting that parts of the FBI can act independently within a large bureaucracy, separate from leadership. The speaker argues that distrust is not about a general attack on political leadership but about systemic issues. They reference the 2024 election as evidence that major institutions may be corrupt or rot, and they point to January 6 as, in their view, a setup in which the FBI played a key role. They question whether everyone involved in that setup has faced consequences. They insist that no American is morally obligated to believe everything the government says, especially given a history of the FBI's alleged crimes, illicit participation in politics, manufacturing crimes, or distorting justice—claims they assert as part of the FBI’s track record, which, in their view, is counter to its mission to obtain justice through facts and then explain its conclusions. They argue that it is not enough to have government officials declare the truth; the public has the right or obligation to demand proof. A central concern is that the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s murder could be overshadowed by debates about what happened, allowing the FBI to go unchallenged or unaccountable. The speaker asserts that the FBI should tell, show, and convince the public about what happened, rather than hiding behind national security or confidential sources. Ultimately, they commit to avoiding statements they don’t understand, to staying out of the case, but to maintaining love for Charlie and a desire for justice, while urging others to remain skeptical. They conclude that skepticism is a duty and not something to be ashamed of.

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- "And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on to, we lost something important in America today." - "But, the case goes on." - "The investigation goes on." - "There's a lot of piecing of evidence together." - "We don't have a shooter tonight." - "We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter." - "They have a couple hot leads." - "There's a little bit of foreign intelligence." - "And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today." - "I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest." - "That's the latest I heard from law" - "That's correct." - "Law enforcement." - "You're hearing the same thing."

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Speaker 0 addresses Don, saying it’s better to say nothing than answer the question, and that honoring Charlie Kirk for any reason is to simply say nothing. The speaker notes discomfort with a clip and asserts knowledge of Don’s identity, describing Don as a hunter who loves the wilderness and hunting, and recalls a past fishing experience fighting sea lions or seals in British Columbia. The speaker urges Don not to lie and to be truthful about his beliefs regarding the investigation. The speaker asks Don to make a video stating that he believes Charlie was shot by a .30-06 in the neck and that, through a miracle, Charlie’s neck stopped the bullet, remaining in good shape and not destroyed. The speaker highlights Don’s knowledge of hunting and guns and requests Don to sit down and say to Candace, “I really do think that Charlie, our friend, because you are his friend, you were his brother, stopped a .30-aught-six with his neck which stayed intact.” The speaker notes Don won’t say that because it is untrue and suggests it would spiritually affect him, asserting that hunters know Don does not believe that. The speaker acknowledges ties and pressure from Jared and Ivanka and “the Zionists” to stay quiet, while urging other brothers, sisters, and people in the movement, who may not even know Charlie, to get to the bottom of this because “everything we’re being sold is absolute BS.”

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The speaker argues against prematurely identifying an enemy and using it to silence discussion about who we are as a country. “we're going to identify an enemy” and “use that as a rationale for trying to silence discussion around who we are as a country.” He mourns Charlie Kirk and says, “he's a young man with two small children and a wife,” calling for grace. He says, “I disagree with the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake.” He adds that controversial topics can be discussed honestly while respecting others' right to say things that we profoundly disagree with. He praises Governor Cox and Josh Shapiro for engaging adversaries and notes, “it's possible for us to disagree while abiding by a basic code of how we should engage in public debate.” He recalls Dylann Roof and Bush: “we are not at war against Islam” and “we went after the people who perpetrated this.” He warns that “when we have the weight of the United States government behind extremist views, we've got a problem.”

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We had our disagreements. Where we did agree is that he would go to these college campuses and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. And ultimately, that is why he was killed. The gunmen that killed him, they hated him because of his defense of Christian morality. Charlie Kirk cannot call himself a Christian anymore. Sorry, you forfeited that. I do not wanna hear and you cannot allow Charlie Kirk to go to one more public event, one more question and answer, one more ask me anything without being protested, without being shouted down, without being interrogated about this. This guy goes around from campus to campus in the most artificial and phony and fake way talking about, oh, God, God made me very blessed that I control $500,000,000. And then you go around from campus to campus making excuses for a famine?

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 address a group text shared by Kent Owens; the text grab is authentic and, though private, was released to show public frustrations and pursue justice for Charlie. They say they wanted no stone unturned in the first 33 hours of the investigation. As Turning Point USA spokesman, they caution that public statements could affect an ongoing case. Charlie's Israel views are described as nuanced and public: he cared about Israel, read a 700-page history, wanted the Gaza war to end, did not want American troops or Palestinian refugees, saw Hamas as the aggressor, and noted antisemitism rising. A Megyn Kelly clip is cited: "I love Israel. I want Israel to win." Charlie remained defiant, refusing to be cowed into deplatforming Tucker, upholding "free speech be our north star."

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During the segment, the speakers address a private text exchange released by Kent Owens. They confirm the screen grab is authentic but say it was private; it was shared with a few government officials because rapid events followed the incident. They note that authorities identified a suspect within 33 hours and emphasize “no stone unturned” in pursuit of justice for Charlie. One speaker, an eyewitness, says they avoid public comments to not affect a trial. They affirm free speech as a guiding principle and defend Charlie's public stance on Israel as nuanced but consistent. Charlie wrestled with Israel for months; he read about the conflict and warned against anti-Israel sentiment online. He believed Hamas started the war and could end it; Israel represented European civilization, Hamas Middle Eastern barbarism. He loved and cared about Israel.

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Remembering Charlie Kirk, with Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump Jr., and Benny Johnson

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Charlie Kirk's murder on a Utah campus set off a cascade of disclosures about motive and the hunt for suspects. An ATF document described a bolt-action rifle found near the campus and three unspent rounds, all engraved with wording expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology. CNN's early chyron about 'cultural phrases' on the cartridges drew pushback from the hosts, who argued the reporting downplays the transgender angle. Steven Crowder's reporting is presented as the initial breaking detail, later corroborated by the Wall Street Journal and confirmed by the FBI, which detailed surveillance video tracking the shooter from arrival to rooftop escape. The FBI released images of a person of interest—white, in his early 20s, wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses—and authorities urged the public to provide information. A $100,000 reward was announced, and a State Department condemnation framed the incident within a broader climate of political hostility. Don Jr. recounts meeting Charlie Kirk in 2015, and says that early impression grew into a defining partnership for Turning Point and the youth movement. He describes Kirk as relentlessly kind, able to simplify complex arguments, and willing to debate detractors on campus until they were left speechless. Don Jr. underscores Kirk's growth and his role in expanding outreach to students and in influencing youth voting, noting the Michigan campus tours where courage and safety concerns collided but Charlie pressed forward. He recalls how faith and a commitment to peaceful discourse shaped Kirk's work and how threats and personal risk never deterred him. The interview underscores Charlie's influence on a generation and the belief that his legacy requires continuing the outreach, even as the personal toll on his family and on Kirk's circle remains heavy. Benny Johnson offers a portrait of Charlie as a beacon and martyr, urging the movement to carry on the work. He characterizes Charlie's kindness, courage, and prophetic presence, recalling his willingness to engage with opponents and push back with reasoned arguments. Tucker Carlson weighs in with reflections on the flood of hate online after Kirk's death, calling it evil and emphasizing unity, order, and a faith-based moral framework. Both men insist that Charlie's life exemplified speaking truth without surrender and call on listeners to support Erica and Charlie's children as Turning Point rebuilds. The segment closes with calls for transparency about the investigation and a reminder to seek wisdom in a time of national distress.