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I began listening to voices like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and Jordan Peterson, which introduced me to new perspectives I hadn't considered before. I appreciated their boldness and found myself passionately discussing these ideas, often ranting in my car. However, this shift in my views came at a cost; I ended up losing my boyfriend, all my friends, and my job. It was a significant and isolating change in my life.

The speaker states they dropped out of Harvard to serve their country and pursue reform, despite receiving email threats and losing friendships. They believe campus sentiment has turned against them. The speaker expresses hope that people will recognize the need for reform and that the people working there have the best chance of achieving it, working constantly. They believe the impact of their work is more valuable than anything they could have learned in a computer science classroom.

Speaker 0 shared a personal experience of posting a pro-Trump video on their social media. They received a call from a sponsor asking them to take it down, but they refused and told them to go away. Speaker 1 mentioned that many people fear losing their jobs if they don't vote for certain individuals, especially in Hollywood. Speaker 0 emphasized the importance of standing up for oneself and not allowing others to dictate their voting choices.

The speaker decided to delete their Instagram account because they were spending too much time scrolling and obsessing over what others thought of them. They announced they were taking a break from social media. The press misinterpreted this as a mental breakdown, portraying the speaker as not being the "perfect happy go lucky kid" and implying they were having a nervous breakdown. This misrepresentation was upsetting to the speaker, as it negatively portrayed people seeking help.

I've lost a lot of friends. I've particularly in the Israel question, I've never talked about Israel. I'm not a hater of Israel. Netanyahu is really hurting The United States and the world. It's completely out of control. Over twenty years, twenty five years. And, so I've always had that view, but I've kept it to myself because it's not worth it. But we've been pushed so hard and used so much by him that it's just terrible for the country that I I grew up in. And so I've said something and, you know, you do that and people you really, like, had dinner with and really liked are all of a sudden denouncing you as a Nazi or whatever. I never wanted that and it makes me sad now.

I took yesterday to feel angry and miserable, and I decided to block my father. He knows I am trans and that I’ve had two abortions, yet he voted for Project 2025, which I find unacceptable. I have a loving husband, supportive friends, and other family members, and I realize I don’t need anyone else. I understand that not everyone can make such decisions safely, and I’m grateful I can. I cut off my mother until her death, and I am prepared to do the same again if necessary.

The speaker woke up to the realization that 50% of the country has a different worldview. They used to think it was because these people were being lied to or manipulated, but they started questioning their own beliefs. They read a book recommended by a friend from the opposite political party and struggled to get through it. However, they realized that not everything the other side said was evil. This led them to question their own beliefs and see the dangers within their own political party. They feel alone and confused but are determined to continue learning and finding the truth by listening to both sides. They no longer feel personally attacked and want to explore different perspectives.

I used to be involved in far-right circles and understand their beliefs. I even stopped talking to my sister for five years. While I wasn't a white nationalist, I was close to those ideas. Like CT mentioned, many of these people are terrible. Translation: I was once part of extreme right-wing groups and cut ties with my sister for five years. Though I wasn't a white nationalist, I was associated with those beliefs. As CT pointed out, many individuals in these circles are despicable.

Speaker 0 notes they’ve faced attacks followed by calls to unite, asking, 'Is it is it still time to come together, Jack? Are are these people capable of coming together with?' Speaker 1 recounts a friend who tried to talk to them and was killed 'in cold blood.' Charlie tried sitting down and having conversations, and many people came; thousands came. But there is 'a social cancer, a cancerous ideology that is spread throughout this country.' It's gone mainstream, acting as if 'they are completely dissociated with humanity.' Shunning family members, canceling, and censorship are linked, and it 'ended with my friend shot on campus.' Speaker 0: 'We should have put our foot down a long time ago,' perhaps when they glorified Luigi for sticking a bullet in the back of the guy's head at 6AM. 'Thanks for coming on, and thanks for carrying Charlie's torch for all of us.'

Speaker 0 questions whether the listener understands bullying, saying, “To get bullied? Do you understand how it feels to get bullied? No.” They claim that people out in the world are really getting bullied and are killing themselves because of this type of stuff.

I got into a fight with Mike Mac. Every time somebody says anything about Israel, he had a meltdown, and it was during Mandy's space. I wasn't even the one that said it, but whatever. We get into this fight, and he just kept saying shit like, if you're gonna have the badge by your name, then you need to, you know, whatever, or you should create an alt account to say whatever. And so, I responded publicly via post, I snipped what he had said in that space, and I was like, first of all, let's get this shit clear. my only condition is that none of my speech will ever waver. Right? Like, there's not gonna be any censorship of my speech or any steering of narratives. That that was my only condition. And so, anyway, when I responded with that, later on, I think it was that night or the night after, whatever. It was right around that time, that's when they said that he called the meeting and was like, we need to pull out of the political conversations because it's having a bad effect on, you know, our long term success. He's launching this product, this this in fact based whatever thing, and he didn't want the political volatility to, you know, impact his brand. And he was like, so it's up to you. I'm still not trying to censor you. I'm giving you the option. Do you want to stay or go? You know? And I said, well, I'm not gonna not be able to participate in these political mean, that's what I do. Like, what else am I gonna do? Fucking sit in little painting spaces? I mean and I didn't say that, but, like, you know, I'm thinking that. So, anyway, I'd said, you know, so I you know, I'm gonna continue to participate. So that's when that happened. That's why I pulled out. But it wasn't like they they still never told me what to say and not to say. He was saying this is what we changing directions, you know, for the for the long term success of his business. He didn't tell me that I needed to change anything. He's just saying, are you with it or not type thing.

I attended UCLA in 2016 when Trump was elected. During midterms, professors offered students time off to "heal" from the election. In a mandatory discussion class, everyone was emotional, and when asked how I was coping, I shared that I voted for Trump and believed it would be a good four years. I was then kicked out for being a "threat" to my classmates' safety. This experience made me realize the need to speak out against such intolerance. I recently started posting on TikTok and encourage others to do the same. I don’t hate anyone, but I’m unfairly labeled with negative terms that don’t reflect who I am. It's important to stand up and be heard.

Speaker 1 admits that mentioning being armed was to deter threats. They regret their choice of words and clarified their friend never said that. They received threats and harassment online even 14 months later, with a recent influx after a court subpoena.

After leaving the White House and starting a business, the speaker's bank informed them they could no longer do business together. A prominent email distribution service provider terminated their agreement. A university revoked its agreement to accept donations for foster students after learning the donations were from the speaker. The speaker believes these actions were due to their political affiliation and beliefs, calling it one of the "canceling projects." While some people have gained courage to speak out against cancel culture, the speaker believes it is still ongoing.

Speaker 0 says he went and hassled asked straightforward questions to Ted Cruz, describing Cruz as a sitting senator who was “serving for Israel by his own description,” and notes he isn’t targeting Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG) because she’s “the most sincere.” He questions why not go after Cruz. Speaker 1 recalls being a friend of MTG; she spoke at his conference, then “the day after, she pretended like she didn't know me,” describing a history that began in 2022. He explains views evolve as people interact with reality and as the reality of self changes, adding that now “everyone agrees with me,” and he would forgive hostility. He says he doesn’t know what MTG’s new views are, noting she’s come around on Israel “this year,” whereas he has spoken on the issue for ten years. He characterizes the past as “ BS” and claims he was treated as if he didn’t exist, canceled for ten years for discussing these topics, particularly during a time of intense censorship. Speaker 1 mentions MTG fired one of his staffers because someone found out a groiper was working in her office, and that person’s life was ruined; MTG allegedly knew exactly what the conference was, yet she pretended not to. He says the issue isn’t personal with MTG, but argues the past disagreement was because she was “on the other team.” Speaker 0 counters that many people were on different sides in the past and suggests the question is bigger than themselves, aiming to restore America for future generations. Speaker 0 adds a personal note: if Dave Rubin called to apologize for calling him “Hitler,” he would consider it meaningful, and he sees legitimate questions to consider. He emphasizes sincerity as central, stating he believes sincerity shows when someone’s heart is pure, and that Joe Kent appeared sincere despite not agreeing on everything, which led Speaker 0 to think Kent was a good person. However, Speaker 0 says Kent was later discredited as being a CIA officer (or contractor), which contradicted their impression, and he recalls showing each other a badge during a mutual suspicion moment. Speaker 1 recalls being disavowed by MTG for his views on Israel and criticized for talking about white people and Christianity, and notes that he worked with Blumenthal on an article while Speaker 0 had called him on the phone. Speaker 0 reflects that the exchange felt “inside baseball” and insists he was seeking a sincere politician, someone brave, regardless of full agreement. He cites Joe Kent as an example of sincerity despite disagreements, and recounts being surprised by Speaker 1’s later revelation that Kent’s CIA association changed his view of Kent.

Speaker 1 explains that they were not fired by Mark Zuckerberg, but faced continuous attacks from the media and tech industry. They were put on leave for six months after making a $9,000 political donation supporting Trump. The speaker believes that if Trump had lost, the attacks would have been dismissed, but his victory made it unbearable. They acknowledge a direct connection between the donation and being pushed out of the company. Other Facebook employees fear speaking out or supporting any politician due to what happened to the speaker. The speaker advises right-leaning founders to keep their political leanings private to avoid being terminated by the mob, focusing instead on building and creating value.

I find it ironic that those defending Hamas online are the ones most likely to be targeted by them. They claim to be freedom fighters, fighting for their land, while I fight for my right to express myself. It's like being in a toxic relationship. I understand you may have a different perspective, but I can't empathize with someone who kidnaps, murders, and commits horrific acts. Just because someone had a difficult childhood doesn't mean I sympathize with them. If you want a free Palestine, free it from... [transcript ends]

The speaker states that they tweeted "free Palestine" while playing for the Houston Rockets and were subsequently kicked out of the league. They received a call from the NBA commissioner less than ten minutes after the tweet, urging them to take it down. The speaker questions what they did that was so bad, suggesting the issue was going against the grain. They decided to stand on their beliefs, despite the risk of losing their job. This led to a period where they felt they couldn't trust anyone, choosing to say and do nothing. However, this created a new problem, as others began speaking for them. The speaker resolved to speak their mind, regardless of the consequences.

The speaker describes a severe post-vaccination experience, saying the vaccine “took my immune system and just shook it around again,” and noting that “that’s still going on.” They reference reading evidence about adverse reactions, including “damage to the immune system,” and acknowledge they were not made aware of these risks beforehand. They recount losing the use of their hands for about three weeks and realizing they were “in real trouble.” The speaker was invited by Robin Monarchy to discuss the experience, and by that time they realized they “weren’t the only one that was suffering.” They contrast this personal ordeal with a sense of media over-saturation, saying they have “stopped watching TV.” They share a cartoon memory of a guy interviewing two Quakers who ask, “How come none of your community has got COVID?” and the Quakers respond, “Well, we don’t watch TV,” remarking, “It’s so true, man,” and noting that “so much of the sickness is in our heads now.” They describe feeling trapped between trusting what “your heart tells you is right” and what appears to be the prevailing narrative, and they emphasize the difficulty of communicating their feelings to family. The speaker mentions taking a risk by speaking out, noting they were “pleased to see that it went around without too much of flack,” but they did experience some backlash, particularly from people they least wanted to upset. A central concern expressed is fear about what vaccination could do to their children, describing it as perhaps “the biggest part of the reason” for speaking out and talking to their daughters about the possibility that they “may not be able to have kids.” They acknowledge that at that point in life, their daughters “don’t probably care,” implying a tension between present concerns and future implications. The speaker concludes with that vaccination remains a source of personal risk and disclosure within their family discussions.

And then I started listening to Ben Shapiro, then Matt Walsh, then Jordan Peterson, all these people. I was like, these are all new views I've never heard. And I was like, I like what these people have to say. They're bold. And then I started going on rants in my car. As soon as I started talking about these things, I lost my boyfriend, lost all my friends, had no job. I mean, truly, I was completely alone.

I was confronted by a neighbor for using the women's restroom, despite being a trans woman named Kaylee for over four years. I had stomach issues and needed to use the single-use bathroom, which I felt was safe. The neighbor insisted I was a man and repeatedly misgendered me. I lost my composure and screamed in frustration, feeling that my home should be a safe space. My friends, instead of supporting me, blamed me for escalating the situation, which was deeply hurtful. I felt triggered and unsupported, realizing these friends weren't the ones I needed. It’s disheartening to face such hostility, especially in a place meant to feel safe.

Speaker says they went to school with Tyler Robinson and saw him for three straight years in high school, though they didn't know him well. "That's him right there. Tyler Robinson." "I'm not trying to, like, clap chase, make this shit about me, but I'm not gonna say I knew this kid really well." They describe him as "a Reddit kid" and note "I feel like if you were in high school around that same time and even probably now, like, 2018 and then, like, you know those kinds of kids, but that's exactly what he was." They add, "This is the kind of shit that happens when you spend way too much time online, and all of a sudden your beliefs are all the way this way or all the way this way, and you do some dramatic shit to please these people that are not your friends." They conclude, "This Internet shit is seriously no joke."

Speaker 0: At some point, many people will hate you for what you've done. Despite preaching inclusivity, they won't include you. The majority still holds power, and we allow it because we take sides in arguments. No one will understand our perspective.

The speaker considered deleting their account due to a barrage of transphobic messages, which they were unprepared for, especially given their initial expectation of low viewership. Ultimately, they decided against it. They stated they will not allow negativity to undermine their accomplishments and years of hard work, nor let others control their life. They believe they are superior to those sending hateful messages.

The speaker recounts feeling excluded during a principal's speech about equality that omitted mention of their race. Writing "all lives matter" on a whiteboard was deemed political and offensive, while signs promoting specific races and orientations were considered human rights. When the speaker questioned the equity statement's lack of representation for all students, they were told "whites have a pretty good situation right now." The speaker claims that teachers are afraid to voice dissenting opinions for fear of administrative discipline, and that students adjust their schoolwork to align with acceptable opinions in order to secure good grades. The speaker states a coworker of color agreed that the school seemed to be pushing a leftist agenda. Due to these experiences, the speaker is leaving the district to attend a private Christian school online, sacrificing graduation milestones to learn in an environment that doesn't punish them for their skin color and political views. The speaker concludes by stating their belief that everyone has value regardless of skin color or personal beliefs.