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In a discussion about China's compliance with chemical and bio weapons treaty obligations, Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1's knowledge on the matter. Speaker 1 expresses concerns about compliance but cannot confirm whether China was in compliance in 2005 or currently. Speaker 0 further asks about China's offensive biological weapons program and the collaboration between the Academy of Military Medical Sciences and the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Speaker 1 acknowledges the collaboration and mentions the involvement of private organizations and the Chinese military. Speaker 0 inquires about the CDC's presence in Wuhan, but Speaker 1 does not provide a direct answer.

The discussion centers on U.S. involvement in biological research in Ukraine amidst accusations from Russia. A U.S. official claimed that any biological or chemical weapon incidents would be attributed to Russia, which has been accused of using disinformation tactics. The conversation reveals that the U.S. has funded biological laboratories in Ukraine, which study dangerous pathogens. Despite denials from U.S. officials about developing biological weapons, there are concerns about the security of these materials in a conflict zone. The Chinese government has called for inspections of these facilities, highlighting international concerns about biological safety. The need for transparency and accountability regarding U.S. actions in Ukraine is emphasized, as the situation remains precarious.

The speaker raises concerns about US funding for coronavirus research in China, highlighting potential risks of lab leaks and lack of transparency. They question the safety and oversight of such research, citing instances of Chinese researchers requesting funds to create a virus similar to COVID-19. The speaker urges for bipartisan support in obtaining information from the State Department and NIH. They emphasize the need for transparency and accountability in investigating the origins of the pandemic.

Speaker 0 argues that anyone can file a complaint with a law enforcement authority for murder conspiracy and demand arrests and prosecutions. He points to a 2013 press release claiming that DARPA awarded Moderna Therapeutics up to $25,000,000 to develop messenger RNA therapeutics, noting that DARPA is the Pentagon and claiming the Pentagon bought, paid for, and envisioned these mRNA shots. He contends Fort Detrick was involved in developing COVID-19 at the UNC BSL-3 and asserts the Pentagon is on both sides of the argument, developing the weapon and the alleged vaccines. Speaker 1 asks whether there is any liability shield for deploying a biowarfare weapon and whether the narrative about congressional liability for Pfizer is a SIOP. Speaker 0 agrees that civil liability is separate from criminal liability, stating in his book Resisting Medical Tyranny that executives at companies developing these mRNA shots are guilty of murder and conspiracy to commit murder. He cites a Portugal report claiming that upwards of 300,000 Americans had been murdered by the mRNA Franken shots and invokes the JAB resolution, describing it as a Nuremberg crime against humanity and a violation of the Nuremberg Code. He defines a Nuremberg crime against humanity as murder, extermination, and other inhumane acts committed against civilians. Speaker 1 asks about liability for government officials who approved the vaccines. Speaker 0 says FDA officials who approved the shots could be indicted for murder and conspiracy to commit murder, noting the FDA’s involvement in developing COVID-19 as an offensive biological warfare weapon at UNC BSL-3, including a cited contract listing National Center for Toxicological Research and FDA as contributors. He claims the FDA, which approves the vaccines, was involved in this development. Speaker 1 questions the CDC and media accountability, noting the CDC’s recommendation of the vaccines and media promotion of boosters. Speaker 0 says the CDC, including Director Milensky (appointed by Biden, from Harvard Medical School), is complicit, and claims the CDC has a history dating back to the Reagan administration of handling offensive biological warfare projects, including shipping weaponized agents to Saddam Hussein with implications for U.S. troops after Gulf War I. Speaker 1 asks whether there are lawmakers with intel on gain-of-function biowarfare. Speaker 0 mentions Senator Rand Paul as having a strong understanding, but asserts that some lawmakers were threatened and obstructed after consulting him, recounting an experience with Walter Jones of the House Armed Services Committee who briefly engaged but then did not follow up, implying threats prevented action. Speaker 1 asks how citizens should respond, and Speaker 0 advocates reporting to sheriffs, district attorneys, and state attorneys, noting progress with a Collier County health freedom declaration. They discuss enforcement mechanisms, seizure, and incineration of stockpiles, and trial and sentencing for those responsible. Speaker 0 condemns China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology as a bioweapons lab, alleging it was a Chinese counterpart to Fort Detrick, with the Chinese president seeking his own BSL-4 program and an offensive biowarfare arsenal. Speaker 1 notes U.S. funding and international bioweapons labs, including Ukraine and Taiwan, and ends by referencing Lindsey Graham and a speaker labeled as a professor Boyle.

The speakers discuss concerns about unwanted attention on the relationships between Western virologists and the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Speaker 1 claims that money was sent to a Chinese lab that was not following proper protocols and was conducting gain of function research, suggesting that this is where the virus originated. Speaker 0 agrees with this statement.

There is evidence suggesting that the Chinese Communist Party leaked the virus from a laboratory in Wuhan. They hid the truth about person-to-person transmission, which hindered our response. The Chinese Communist Party continues to conduct risky research, even using American funds. We recently discovered they are working on a COVID virus that affects the brain. We need a moratorium on this type of research. Witnesses who could provide information have mysteriously died, and the Chinese Communist Party has removed DNA sequences that could prove our theory. We must prevent future situations by stopping gain of function research and not aiding our enemies. The scientific community in China collaborates with the military and the CCP, posing a serious threat to us.

Did USAID fund coronavirus research in Wuhan? We did not fund gain of function research. The PREDICT program, which ended in 2019, did involve funding that may have gone to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. There are concerns about funding to the Academy of Military Medical Sciences in China, but records are not accessible. Despite requests for documents related to the PREDICT program, USAID has not provided them, raising suspicions about transparency. The agency claims to have shared documents with relevant committees, but there is frustration over the lack of information available to senators. There is a demand for clarity on grants related to coronaviruses, as the ongoing lack of response leads to concerns about potential hidden information regarding the origins of COVID-19.

Speaker 0 asks how much USAID money went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina to create weaponized coronaviruses. Speaker 1 rejects the implicit accusation and says they don't have the specific details of USAID funding at their fingertips. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 is stating for certain that no USAID money went to the Wuhan Institute. Speaker 1 says they are happy to take questions from those in the audience who treat every person respectfully, and calls on someone else. Speaker 0 asks what Speaker 1 is denying. Speaker 0 says it's a non-denial denial.

Speaker 0 asks if USAID funded coronavirus research in Wuhan, China. Speaker 1 denies funding gain of function research but acknowledges the PREDICT program, which ended in China in 2019. Speaker 0 mentions that the GAO found that some grants from the $200 million program went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where the lab leak suspicion originated. Speaker 1 is unsure about funding the Academy of Military Medical Sciences but acknowledges the lack of records. Speaker 0 states that they have been requesting records for months but received no documents from USAID. Speaker 1 reiterates that the PREDICT program ended in 2019. Speaker 0 asks who ran the PREDICT program, and Speaker 1 responds with UC Davis.

The speaker suggests that American tax dollars funded gain-of-function research that created the virus. They claim that Dr. Fauci and various government agencies, including the NIH, State Department, USAID, and DOD, were involved. They argue that Fauci funded a study that taught Chinese military scientists how to build weapons of mass destruction and hide human tampering on the virus. They question why the U.S. government would fund such research and why they were teaching Chinese scientists. They also mention the CIA's involvement and their role in the cover-up. The speaker raises concerns about the lack of medical benefit and the potential bioweapons implications.

Speaker 0 denies funding gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Speaker 1 reveals that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) funded research on a bat coronavirus at the Wuhan lab, making it more contagious. Speaker 2 questions Dr. Fauci about his previous statement, but he stands by it. Speaker 3 mentions a letter raising concerns about experiments in the Wuhan lab. Speaker 0 interrupts and accuses Senator Paul of lying. Speaker 2 argues that if the virus originated from the lab, those who funded it should be held responsible. Speaker 4 states that the NIH admitted funding gain of function research at the Wuhan lab, contradicting Dr. Fauci's claims. Speaker 0 maintains that he has never lied before Congress.

Did USAID fund coronavirus research in Wuhan, China? We did not fund gain of function research. However, the PREDICT program, which ended in 2019, did involve funding that may have reached the Wuhan Institute of Virology. There are concerns about transparency regarding grants and funding, especially related to the Academy of Military Medical Sciences in China. Despite requests for records on the PREDICT program, USAID has not provided the necessary documents. The lack of information raises suspicions about what research was conducted, particularly proposals related to creating viruses similar to COVID-19. There is frustration over the perceived stonewalling by the agency, as senators seek clarity on funding and research proposals linked to coronaviruses in China.

The speaker was asked about USAID funding for research in Wuhan and at the University of North Carolina. They denied the accusation and did not have specific details. The speaker avoided directly answering if USAID money was used in Wuhan. They preferred respectful questions and moved on without giving a clear denial.

According to Speaker 1, Dr. Fauci was informed via email on January 27, 2020, that NIAID had a financial connection to the Wuhan Institute through EcoHealth Alliance. Speaker 1 believes NIH was funding gain of function research. Speaker 1 also claims American tax dollars likely funded gain of function research that created the virus, not only from NIH, but also from the State Department, USAID, and DOD.

The speaker was asked about USAID funding for work in Wuhan and creating weaponized coronaviruses. They denied the accusation and stated they did not have specific details. When pressed if USAID money went to Wuhan, they avoided a direct answer and requested respectful questions. The conversation ended with the speaker being accused of giving a non-denial denial.

Did USAID fund coronavirus research in Wuhan, China? We did not fund gain of function research. The PREDICT program, which ended in 2019, did have grants that may have gone to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I have requested records from the PREDICT program to understand the funding and research conducted, but USAID has not provided these documents. Despite multiple requests and a letter from 25 senators, we have received no information. We want to know about any grants related to coronaviruses, especially those that could have led to COVID-19. The lack of transparency raises suspicions about what information is being withheld. We seek clarity on all research proposals related to coronaviruses funded by the U.S. government.

The speaker questions the amount of money that went from USAID to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and their collaborator at the University of North Carolina. The other speaker rejects the accusation and doesn't have the specific details about USAID funding. The first speaker asks if they are certain that no USAID money went to Wuhan, but the second speaker avoids answering and asks for respectful questions. The first speaker insists on a denial, but the second speaker dismisses it as a non-denial denial.

USAID denies funding gain of function research despite evidence showing otherwise. Questions raised about lack of transparency regarding dangerous research projects. Request made to interview USAID personnel present at briefing about risky virus creation. USAID emphasizes cooperation and commitment to avoiding risky research in the future.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology is believed by some, including the speakers, to be a bioweapons lab with Chinese Communist Party officials. The speakers suggest that the US government may have been collecting intelligence on the lab through a scientist named Peter Daszak, who had a relationship with the CIA. They propose that the US government traded advanced biotech for access to the lab. The second speaker agrees with this theory and mentions that he received leaked documents related to the lab. The Department of Defense is also mentioned.

The speakers discuss concerns about unwanted attention on the relationships between Western virologists and the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Speaker 1 suggests that money was sent to a Chinese lab that was not following proper protocols and was conducting gain of function research, which is believed to be the origin of the current situation. Speaker 0 agrees with this statement.

Speaker 0 asks about the amount of money from USAID that went to Wuhan and their collaborator at the University of North Carolina to create weaponized coronaviruses. Speaker 1 rejects the accusation and admits to not having the specific details of USAID funding. Speaker 0 presses for a clear answer, but Speaker 1 deflects and requests respectful questions from the audience. Speaker 0 insists on a denial, calling Speaker 1's response a nondenial denial.

Senator Paul accuses Dr. Fauci of lying to Congress about the NIH funding gain of function research in Wuhan. Dr. Fauci defends his statement, stating that the research was conducted in China due to the expertise of a well-known laboratory. He acknowledges that he cannot guarantee everything happening in the Wuhan lab but emphasizes the importance of studying the animal-human interface to understand potential virus infections. Senator Paul argues that gain of function research was indeed conducted and funded by the NIH, accusing Dr. Fauci of obfuscating the truth. Dr. Fauci denies this accusation.

American tax dollars likely funded gain-of-function research that created the virus, according to the speakers. They mention funding from various government agencies, including NIH, the State Department, USAID, and DOD. They argue that Dr. Fauci, under whose direction the research was conducted, is responsible for teaching Chinese military scientists how to build weapons of mass destruction. They also claim that Fauci funded a technique called seamless ligation, which hides human tampering on the virus. The speakers question the justification for funding such research and highlight the involvement of USAID, the Department of Defense, and the CIA. They suggest a cover-up and raise concerns about the origins of the virus.

The transcript revolves around claims and counterclaims regarding whether the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Dr. Anthony Fauci funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Dr. Fauci denies that the NIH and NIAID "categorically" funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan and states he has never lied to Congress. He asserts Senator Paul does not know what he is talking about. Others claim the NIH provided grant money to a research group that conducted experiments with bat coronaviruses in Wuhan. They allege the NIH acknowledged funding research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology that unexpectedly made a bat coronavirus more contagious. One speaker states that the NIH funded controversial gain-of-function research using coronaviruses at the Wuhan lab, contradicting Dr. Fauci’s claims. Another speaker suggests that evidence points to the virus originating from the lab and that those who funded the lab will be held responsible.

Speaker 1 states that documents were signed to end federal funding and private corporation control of gain of function studies, which he claims the US military and intelligence agencies began in 1947. He says that by 1969, the CIA claimed they could kill the entire US population for 29¢ a person. According to Speaker 1, President Nixon ended this research and persuaded over 80 countries to sign the bioweapons charter in 1973, but US federal officials who violate it cannot be prosecuted. Speaker 1 claims that gain of function research relaunched a bioweapons arms race and that in 2014, three bugs escaped from US labs, leading President Obama to declare a moratorium that moved research offshore to the Wuhan Lab. He asserts that China, Russia, Iran, and other countries are developing devastating weapons using AI and CRISPR technologies. He says that gain-of-function research has never produced anything good, and commends President Trump for ending US bioweapons research.