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This conversation centers on Israel, lobbying, and US policy. Speaker 0 says he’s been very pro Israel and defender of its right to defend itself, but has 'no skin whatsoever in defending any lobbyist group,' and has declined repeated invitations to go to Israel. He notes mounting pressure to stay aligned and that he’s not on Hamas’ side, though his views have shifted since 10/08/23. Speaker 1 explains APAC is 'not registered under FARA' and describes freshman trips to Israel, meetings with government members. He notes that '3.8, billion dollars in funding for Israel' is an annual decision, that Israel is 'less than 400,000,000,000 in debt,' and that Israelis have 'government funded health care' and 'government funded college.' He questions why the US funds this given its own economic strain, citing that 'we buy money from your defense contractors' and that Israel can buy from Israeli defense contractors.

Two THAAD missile batteries are in Israel, 'one quarter of the world's total supply of THAAD missile batteries,' manned by US personnel to protect Israel. Since 10/07/2023, 'the United States has spent at minimum $30,000,000,000 defending Israel,' while the Israeli military budget before October 7 was 'about 25,000,000,000.' Over its existence, 'the United States has put 300,000,000,000, at least those are just the on books numbers, into supporting Israel,' making Israel 'the largest recipient of USAID over time and currently.' Egypt is second, and spending in Egypt is 'at the request of Israel.' The speaker argues this shows disproportionate US attention, noting that India and China combined represent more than a third of the world’s population.

The speaker says the United States is Israel's last ally besides the UK and that Americans lack perspective due to lies from the political class and media. Citing Haley's 2023 remark: 'Last thing we need to do is to tell Israel what to do. The only thing we should be doing is supporting them and eliminating Hamas. It is not that Israel needs America. America needs Israel.' They assert: 'Israel could not survive without The United States' and that 'every dollar that goes to the Israeli military from The United States is a dollar that the nation of Israel can spend on its own people.' They claim Haley was never asked to explain how that could be true, and warn that discussing geopolitics invites accusations of antisemitism, creating a 'state of perpetual intimidation' and no honest conversation.

Public policy reparative policies “don’t tend to be nearly as effective as people want them to be, historically speaking.” Jewish people have received reparations—“Holocaust reparations, for example, from Germany?”—and there was “a gigantic fight” in Israel over whether Holocaust survivors should accept reparations from Germany, with the view that it’s “allowing them to expiate their sins, and it’s allowing them to buy off the history for $50 or whatever it is.” The reality is that “cutting people checks rarely makes them more successful from the government.” What usually makes people more successful is “a determined attempt to become the things that the meritocracy demands of you.” US foreign assistance for Israel “actually is a bargain for The United States because Israel doesn't need the money.” We spend billions on bases abroad—“$6,000,000,000 a year” in Japan, “$5,000,000,000 a year” in Germany—which means Israel “has to spend all of that money… in The United States on military product,” making it “a subsidy to the American defense industry.” There is “a deal with Israel”—“intelligence sharing and also develops its own tech” and “the helmets that our f 35 pilots use, those are Israeli developed helmets.” “That’s because Israel developed technological add ons.” “So the idea that this is sort of like a zero sum… that’s actually not true.”

So right now, as we speak tonight, there are two THAAD missile batteries in Israel. That's one quarter of the world's total supply of THAAD missile batteries. They are American military personnel, and they are manning these batteries to protect Israel. And that shouldn't surprise you because since 10/07/2023, which is a little less than two years ago, The United States has spent at minimum $30,000,000,000 defending Israel. Israel is by far, no one comes close, the largest recipient of USAID over time and currently. They don't know how disproportionate our attention to Israel and our spending on Israel is relative to the rest of the world.

Why, the speaker asks, is the U.S. taxpayer money given to Israel used to fund social programs like monthly child allowances, income support, unemployment benefits, housing assistance, free health care, and free education through university? The speaker questions why the U.S. enables Israelis to have these benefits while many in the U.S. oppose universal health care and free education for Americans. The speaker believes it is inconsistent to fund these programs for another country while opposing them domestically. The speaker also notes that the Israeli government should not be allowed to do whatever they want without consequences from the U.S., given the billions of dollars in military assistance it receives annually.

A big part of the reason why Netanyahu even still to this day doesn't have to kowtow to The United States is because he understands the leverage he has. He understands that he is the wall that protects The United States and the Western allies from Iran. And it makes it so that we can spend our money on something else, and he spends his money and his lives protecting the rest of us against Iran.

The speaker addresses U.S. policy in the Middle East and the posture of those who support Israel, arguing strongly that supporters in the United States should cease apologizing for backing Israel. They assert there is no need for an apology, declaring, “There’s no apology to be made.” This stance frames the U.S. relationship with Israel as clear-cut and essential, offering a provocative justification for continued support. In advocating for unwavering backing, the speaker characterizes U.S. support for Israel as a decisive measure, calling it “the best $3,000,000,000 investment we make.” This claim positions aid to Israel as a strategic expenditure with substantial returns in terms of regional influence and security interests, suggesting that the economic commitment yields significant strategic benefits for the United States in the Middle East. Building on this assertion, the speaker presents a hypothetical scenario to underscore the perceived indispensability of Israel to American interests. They state, “Were there not an Israel, The United States Of America would have to invent an Israel.” This statement implies that, in the absence of an existing state in the region aligned with U.S. interests, Washington would face the dilemma of creating a state in order to protect those interests, highlighting the perceived necessity of having a stable, allied presence in the area. Further reinforcing the argument, the speaker repeats the notion of necessity with a direct formulation: “The United States would have to go out and invent an Israel.” This reiteration emphasizes the belief that Israel serves a critical role in safeguarding American regional objectives, to the extent that its existence is considered indispensable enough to warrant creation if it did not already exist. Across these points, the core message is a vehement defense of sustained U.S. support for Israel, framed as both morally clear (no apology) and practically essential (a valuable investment with strategic weight). The speaker combines a repudiation of criticism with a hypothetical justification for the centrality of Israel to American policy in the Middle East, asserting that Israel’s existence or creation is tied to protecting United States interests in the region.

Support for Israel in the Middle East should not require an apology. It is seen as a valuable investment, worth $3 billion, and crucial for protecting American interests in the region. In fact, the United States would even create Israel if it didn't exist already.

With the money that we, the taxpayers, have given Israel over the last seventy five years, they are now able to give families a monthly child allowance for each child they have, income support, unemployment benefits, housing assistance, free health care, and free education through university. So I ask again, why are we okay making it possible for Israelis to do that. But when it comes to our country, a whole group of people are totally against the idea of universal health care and free education. I need someone to explain to me why it's okay to fund their abilities to do that. No ally of The United States should be allowed to do or say whatever they want without any consequences from us, not when we give them billions of dollars every single year. And none of what I'm saying is even delving into the fact that what the Israeli government is doing with all the military assistance that we've given them.

Speaker argues that "Israel's really last remaining ally of size other than The UK is The United States" and that the relationship carries a "huge cost," while Americans "marinate in lies" about it from "our political class" and the media. Blame is placed on "our elected leaders" who "continuously lie to us about the nature of this relationship, its significance, and they do it generationally." Citing Nikki Haley's 2023 debate, he notes: "Last thing we need to do is to tell Israel what to do... The only thing we should be doing is supporting them and eliminating Hamas. It is not that Israel needs America. America needs Israel." He asserts: "Israel could not survive without The United States." "Every dollar that goes to the Israeli military from The United States is a dollar that the nation of Israel can spend on its own people." "There is no world in which America needs Israel more than Israel needs The United States." He laments a "state of perpetual intimidation" that prevents an honest conversation.

In the Middle East, it's time to stop apologizing for supporting Israel. There's no need for apologies because our support for Israel is a valuable investment of $3 billion. Without Israel, the United States would have to create it to safeguard its interests in the region.

The U.S. has contributed more to Israel's defense budget than Israel itself in the last three years. This year, the U.S. gave nearly $3.1 billion to Israel, making it the top recipient of American foreign aid. This occurs while many Americans struggle with finances, senior citizens can't afford medications, veterans are underserved, and schools are closing. Israel ranks among the top 30 richest countries, yet receives a large lump sum of aid upfront, allowing it to accumulate interest while the U.S. pays interest on the borrowed money. Additionally, the U.S. gives billions to Egypt and Jordan to discourage them from opposing Israeli policies, adding to the financial burden. With presidential elections approaching and promises to cut spending to address the $16 trillion debt, some argue the U.S. should prioritize its own needs.

Israel is a democracy and an ally. One speaker believes Israel has a powerful stranglehold on the American government, controlling members of the House and Senate. They claim Israel has the U.S. involved in wars of little or no interest, bankrupting the nation and resulting in American children returning in body bags. The speaker asserts that Israel controls much of U.S. foreign and domestic policy, influencing the media and commerce, and that they "own the congress." They allege Wolfowitz, as under secretary of defense, manipulated President Bush to go back into Iraq and pushed to move into Iran. When asked if they are an anti-Semite, the speaker denies it, stating that this is what they will say. They claim the U.S. has a one-sided foreign policy in the Mideast, alienating Arabs who then export violence to America. They state Israel gets approximately $15 billion a year from American taxpayers, which is $30,000 for every man, woman, and child.

Speaker argues the United States is Israel's last large ally besides the UK, with a large cost and limited perspective due to lies from the political class and media. They blame U.S. elected leaders for decades of misrepresentation. Citing Nikki Haley's 2023 Republican primary debate, the quote: "Last thing we need to do is to tell Israel what to do. The only thing we should be doing is supporting them and eliminating Hamas. It is not that Israel needs America. America needs Israel." The speaker contends this is inverted: "Israel could not survive without The United States." American backing funds Israeli wars and social services; "every dollar that goes to the Israeli military from The United States is a dollar that the nation of Israel can spend on its own people." Haley wasn't asked to explain, and questioning geopolitics is feared as antisemitic, leading to "a state of perpetual intimidation" and "We have not had an honest conversation about this ever."

"In the past three years, Americans have paid more for Israel's defense budget than Israelis themselves, according to the Israeli army's former chief of staff." "The United States gave nearly $3,100,000,000 to Israel this year, making it the number one contributor of American foreign aid." "And yet during this time, we're giving a huge amount of money to Israel." "Israel ranks among the top 30 richest countries in the world, while some of the poorest countries only see a fraction of that amount in USAID." "According to the Congressional Research Center, once dispersed, Israel's military aid is transferred to an interest bearing account with the Federal Reserve Bank." "This means Americans are paying interest on the billions of dollars given to Israel, while Israel accumulates interest on those same billions."

Israel is the largest recipient of American aid and military support because the House of Rothschild takes money from the United States and gives it to Israel, which is also of the House of Rothschild. The House of Rothschild controls the countries of the European Union, which is why Israel is not questioned about its nuclear capabilities and gets away with mass murder repeatedly. When the same force controls all these different agencies, they will be coordinated. That's why Israel gets away with what it gets away with. If people think that's antisemitic, they're wrong; antisemitic means anti-Arab.

Joe Biden has received the most money from Israel in US history, both as a senator and during his presidential campaign in 2020. As a senator, he received over $4 million, and as a presidential candidate, he received almost $4 million. Another speaker believes that the $3 billion investment the US makes in Israel is justified and necessary for protecting American interests in the region.

Israel is crucial for the United States' interests in the region. Without Israel, the US would need to create it. The US sees Israel as a valuable investment, providing $3 billion annually.

The discussion centers on how politicization of intelligence has manifested in different eras, comparing past and present administrations. Speaker 0 asks whether the politicized weapons claims about Iraq and the CIA’s statements in the 1990s can be compared to today’s politicization of intelligence under John Ratcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard as head of DNI, arguing it is much worse now because of the mediocrity of those in control of key agencies. Speaker 1 counters by recalling the 1980s, noting that there was significant politicization of the Soviet threat to justify Reagan’s defense buildup, and adds that this is why he testified against Robert Gates in 1991. He asserts that politicization is bad, and insists that the current situation is worse than in the past. Speaker 1 explains: “It’s Because I look at the people who are ahead of these groups. Come on. Let’s be serious.” He targets the leadership of the director of national intelligence, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the CIA, saying, “Have you ever seen a cabinet in The United States of such mediocrity, of such venality?” He emphasizes his background, stating, “I haven’t,” and that nothing compares to what is going on now, warning that “a lot of damage is being done to The United States and to the constitution of The United States and to the importance of separation of powers and the importance of rule of law and the importance of checks and balances. This is very serious stuff.” Speaker 0 attempts to steer toward historical figures like Robert Maxwell, but Speaker 1 dismisses that concern as off point, insisting he is making a point about Israel. The exchange then shifts to U.S. support for Israel, with Speaker 1 asserting that “Israel gets what it wants from The United States. It gets it from democratic presidents and from republican presidents.” He also criticizes Barack Obama for signing what he calls “that ten year $40,000,000,000 arms aid agreement,” arguing that Obama “never should have signed” it “because they treated Obama so shabbily in the first place.”

Investing $3 billion in Israel is the best decision we make. We shouldn't apologize for supporting Israel in this body. It's a crucial investment for the United States. In fact, if Israel didn't exist, the US would have to create it to safeguard its interests in the Middle East.

We should not be spending money to support Israel. Our aid should not be going towards building a fort for them. We need to focus on our own interests and not waste resources on humanitarian aid.

Speaker 0: Do we need this connection with Israel? What is it? No one ever explains what it's for. I feel like. Right? That would help everybody have a much better understanding, you know, because it starts to feel like America is just a shell company, an LLC for Israel. That's what it starts to feel like a lot of times, you know? Do you feel like that that's realistic, or do you feel like that that's off base? Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't send them a dime. Like, that's my position. I don't think whatever we're getting isn't worth it.

The speaker asks how much support the U.S. gives to Israel. The response is approximately $3 billion a year in military assistance. It is asserted that this military assistance is the only assistance Israel receives from the U.S. There is a memorandum of understanding (MOU) for the $3 billion annual amount.

The video argues that Israel is effectively ruling the American government, presenting a connected web of history, money, politics, religion, and power to explain the relationship. It starts with the numbers: since World War II, the United States has given over $260,000,000,000 in aid to Israel, more than to any other country in the world. This aid is a pipeline of US taxpayer money into Israel’s military machine, totaling $3,800,000,000 each year (about $10,000,000 every day), funding fighter jets, bombs, tanks, and missile defense systems like the Iron Dome. The 2016 initiative under President Obama was a $38,000,000,000 package over ten years, guaranteed regardless of who sits in the White House, ensuring Israel’s access to next-generation military hardware while Americans debate domestic needs. A significant portion of this aid is required by law to be spent on American defense contractors such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Raytheon, meaning Israel gets the weapons while U.S. taxpayers foot the bill. The F-35 stealth fighter jet, costing around $80,000,000 each, has been supplied to Israel, alongside the Iron Dome, which has received over $2,600,000,000 in US funding since 2000. Critics note this funding could have supported US infrastructure repair, which is described as costing trillions of dollars to fix. The video contrasts this with domestic needs, citing half a million Americans homeless and tens of millions without health insurance. The narrative expands to the political ecosystem: APAC (the American Israel Public Affairs Committee) is described as one of the most powerful foreign policy lobby groups in Washington, with annual conferences drawing thousands and presidents pledging loyalty on stage. In the 2022 midterms, pro-Israel groups allegedly poured over $30,000,000 into campaigns; APAC’s United Democracy Project is said to have spent millions to defeat candidates who criticized unconditional US support for Israel. It cites examples like Donna Edwards and Andy Levin as Democrats targeted for questioning U.S. policy toward Israel. The video asserts that the message is: step out of line, and you’re gone. Other organizations are named as part of the broader lobby, including Christians United for Israel led by John Hagee, and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), with various PACs purportedly funneling millions into local elections. Together, these groups are characterized as shaping U.S. foreign policy more than think tanks, business lobbies, or grassroots movements, forming what scholars John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt have called the Israel lobby, which also influences media and academia through outlets and think tanks that frame Israel as America’s indispensable ally. A narrative layer is described: Israel is marketed as the only democracy in the Middle East, while Palestinians are often erased or portrayed as aggressors. The video notes presidential consistency from Reagan to Trump, and from Clinton to Biden, with the refrain that America stands with Israel. Religion compounds influence, with evangelical groups viewing Israel’s survival as biblical prophecy, and the 2018 move of the US embassy to Jerusalem is framed as a concession to evangelical voters. The implications are political: the contradiction of US defending democracy while backing a system described as apartheid and ongoing bombings. The video asks who is ruling whom, suggesting blind support fuels anti-American sentiment globally, and that the question extends beyond Palestine to America’s own future. It ends by questioning whose interests Washington is really serving—its people or someone else.