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Speaker 0 asked Speaker 1 if they had a personal relationship with Donald Trump, clarifying if they had socialized with him. Speaker 1 answered affirmatively. Speaker 0 then asked if Speaker 1 had ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18. Speaker 1 invoked their Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights and declined to answer the question.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of being a corrupt politician. Speaker 1 responds by mentioning that 50 former national intelligence officials and the heads of the CIA have dismissed the accusations as false. Speaker 0 dismisses this as another Russia hoax. Speaker 1 tries to steer the conversation back to the issue of race.

The speaker was asked if they misspoke about carrying weapons in war, despite never deploying to a war zone. The speaker responded that they are proud of their 24 years in uniform and their service in public education. They believe people know them and that their record speaks for itself. Regarding the alleged misstatement, the speaker said they were discussing carrying weapons of war after a school shooting. They acknowledged their grammar isn't always correct. The speaker stated that they will never demean another member's service.

Questioning whether the speaker was kicked out of CPAC, the exchange goes: "And you were kicked out of CPAC. Right?" The reply: "I wasn't kicked out. Or you were disinvited? What what let's there was some kind of drama on Twitter." The other party says: "Don't think so. Tell me everything. There's no drama." The speaker then clarifies: "I, you know, like I said, I came out here I came out here to CPAC last year, had a great time. You know, met my hero, Ben Shapiro. I met my mentor and friend, Casa Dillon. And and so I just came out again this year."

The speaker says the subject of the interview is not a Democrat and would be offended to be called one. The speaker doesn't believe a political issue would cause the subject to do such a thing. The subject never mentioned the senator or representative who were targeted. He didn't like Tim Walz and would say things like, "I don't like that Tim Walz did this." The subject mentioned a protest, but the speaker doesn't think he said anything about it. The speaker would tell him to surrender himself so he could be taken alive. The subject listened to Infowars, and the speaker told him not to take everything they say for granted. The subject was a Trump supporter, voted for Trump, and liked Trump.

Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 still wants to ban fracking. Speaker 1 says no, clarifying they stated in a 2020 debate they would not ban fracking as Vice President or President. Speaker 0 points out that in 2019, Speaker 1 said they were in favor of banning fracking. Speaker 1 responds that in 2020, they made their position clear, and they have not changed that position in 2024, nor will they going forward, and that they have kept their word.

Speaker 1 is asked about their previous tweets regarding Trump and Brian Kemp stealing elections. Speaker 1 dismisses the comparison as ridiculous and clarifies that they were referring to the threat to voting rights at that time.

Speaker 0 is asked about winning the union vote despite his stance on gun control. He denies wanting to take away guns and clarifies that he never mentioned it. The conversation becomes heated and the speaker interrupts, asking to hold on. The transcript ends abruptly with the speaker mentioning "a lot of guys" without further explanation.

I have a 20-gauge shotgun for hunting. You're not allowed to own any weapons, but I'm not taking your gun away. You need 100 rounds, and we’re discussing a veto. There’s misinformation circulating; I never said I would take your gun. That’s a viral video spreading lies. You just claimed I said I would take your AR. Let’s clarify what was actually said.

The speaker was asked about winning the union vote despite gun enthusiasts in the union. They denied taking away guns but were interrupted. The speaker clarified they did not say that, and the conversation became heated.

Speaker 0 stated they were more concerned with Donald Trump's congresswoman. Speaker 1 asked if Speaker 0 had served in a combat zone and if they were still friends with school shooters, which Speaker 0 denied. Speaker 1 referenced a debate stage where Speaker 0 allegedly claimed friendship with school shooters. Regarding bullying, Speaker 0 said it's okay to bully the bully at times, which Speaker 1 interpreted as condoning bullying. Speaker 1 accused the Democrat party of violence and asked if Speaker 0 was at Tiananmen Square, to which Speaker 0 responded they were there in January 1990. Speaker 1 then asked, "What is a woman?" Speaker 0 said they didn't understand the question. Speaker 1 wanted Speaker 0 to say a woman is an adult human female and that men can't become women, accusing the party of erasing women.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if they believe white people should pay reparations, claiming Speaker 1 tweeted in January 2020, "Yes, the North. Yes. All of us. Yes. America. Yes. Our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes. Reparations. Yes. On this day." Speaker 1 denies the tweet referred to fiscal reparations. Speaker 1 states the tweet referenced owing much to those who came before. Speaker 0 calls this a bizarre framing of the tweet.

Speaker 1 initially said "no more Trump" due to his January 6th conduct, but now says "yes" to Trump. Speaker 1 states that Biden-Harris policies are an existential threat to the country and its allies. Speaker 1 believes there are now many attacks on democracy that eclipse January 6th.

Speaker 0 is asked about winning the union vote despite his stance on gun control. He denies wanting to take away guns and clarifies that he never mentioned it. The conversation gets heated, with Speaker 0 expressing frustration and asking for a moment. The transcript ends with Speaker 0 mentioning that there are many people who support him.

The discussion centers on the president's comments yesterday, referring to "Trump supporter as garbage." Speaker 0 asks two questions: "does he think less of Americans who support Trump than he does of those who do not?" and "why is he using that kind of rhetoric? How is that presidential?" Speaker 1 says: "So so a couple of things. Couple of things. So just to clarify, he was not calling Trump supporters garbage, which is why he put out this is why he wanted to make sure that we put out a statement that clarified what he meant and what he was trying to say."

Speaker 0 asks Joe if he has ever been on the Senate floor and talked about cutting Social Security, Medicare, and veterans' programs. Joe denies ever saying that. Speaker 0 insists that Joe has made those statements multiple times, but Joe continues to deny it. Joe claims that he meant everything was on the table for discussion, but he did not support those specific cuts. Speaker 0 challenges Joe to watch videos on YouTube where he made those statements.

Speaker 0 claims that Speaker 1 will sign a national abortion ban and that Project 2025 includes a national abortion monitor. Speaker 1 denies both claims, calling them lies. Speaker 0 states that no state allows killing a baby after birth or abortion of a carried pregnancy. Speaker 2 says an infant would be delivered, kept comfortable, and resuscitated if desired, followed by a discussion between physicians and mothers. Speaker 0 says Speaker 1 stated there would be a "bloodbath" if he is not elected. Speaker 1 claims the term related to energy and tariffs on cars, stating, "if I don't get elected, it's gonna be a bloodbath." Speaker 0 references Charlottesville and Speaker 1's statement that there were "fine people on each side." Speaker 1 clarifies he was not referring to neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Speaker 0 states that he and Tim Walz are gun owners and want to pass an assault weapons ban, universal background checks, and red flag laws.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about their statement in a book regarding anger and whether they contribute to it. Speaker 1 defends their use of charged language in politics but clarifies that they have an issue with assuming people with different political views are of bad character. Speaker 0 brings up Speaker 1's description of President Obama's State of the Union address as fascist, to which Speaker 1 admits it was a poor choice of words. Speaker 0 points out that being bad or wrong doesn't necessarily make something fascist. Speaker 1 offers to critique the column if it is read aloud.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about past tweets and NPR content. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes America is addicted to white supremacy, if America believes in black plunder and white democracy, and if white people inherently feel superior. Speaker 1 says their thinking has evolved and denies holding those beliefs now, also stating they don't recall some tweets. Speaker 0 confronts Speaker 1 with their past tweets about reparations, asking if white people should pay them. Speaker 1 claims the tweet wasn't about fiscal reparations. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes looting is morally wrong, and Speaker 1 confirms that it is. Speaker 0 then questions Speaker 1 about NPR content, including a book called In Defense of Looting, an article about gender queer dinosaur enthusiasts, and an editorial stating that fear of fatness is more harmful than actual fat. Speaker 1 says they are unfamiliar with some of the content. Speaker 0 accuses NPR of editorializing and promoting garbage, vowing to defund them.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if they are ruling out the possibility of calling for the slaughter of white people in the future. Speaker 1 responds by saying they don't know what will happen and it may or may not be them. Speaker 0 clarifies that it could be Speaker 1 and asks what would necessitate that. Speaker 1 doesn't know and questions why they would do that. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to pledge to never call for the slaughter of white people, but Speaker 1 refuses to make that pledge. Speaker 0 understands.

Speaker 1: "Just because the other side... jokes about the bad things that happened to them, I don't think that makes it okay for us to turn around and do the same." Speaker 0: "No. We need to stop... the left just haven't cucked out enough." Speaker 0: "Trump is fucking insane because he has support from 90% of the conservatives in the Republican party who are entirely un American." Speaker 1: "One person is dead... a swing state voter." Speaker 1: "We don't know what the motivation of the shooter was." Speaker 1: "Just because there is fire burning doesn't give us leave to throw more wood on it." Speaker 0: "Donald Trump wanted absolute criminal immunity." Speaker 0: "Democracy only works when everybody participates." Speaker 1: "I reject this framing entirely."

The speaker was asked about a statement where they said they carried weapons in war despite never deploying to a war zone. The speaker responded that they are proud of their 24 years of service and their record speaks for itself. They speak candidly and passionately, especially about children being shot in schools. When asked if they misspoke about being in war, the speaker said the conversation was about carrying weapons of war after a school shooting, and their grammar isn't always correct. The speaker stated they will never demean another member's service.

Speaker 0 asked Speaker 1 if they ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump, clarifying if they socialized with him. Speaker 1 answered affirmatively. Speaker 0 then asked if Speaker 1 ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18. Speaker 1 invoked their Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights and declined to answer the question.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to condemn those who call for assassination. Speaker 1 responds that they condemn the violence of the system and wants Speaker 0 to acknowledge that. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 condemns people that call for assassination, and Speaker 1 says they would love for Speaker 0 to acknowledge what they're actually saying. Speaker 1 states that 70% of Americans believe that insurance company practices are responsible in part for Thompson's death. Speaker 0 says anyone who wants to assassinate anyone is wrong. Speaker 1 says that to prevent further deaths and gun violence, one needs to understand motives and ideology. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to condemn those who want to be involved in assassination. Speaker 1 says they are describing his supporters who do believe that, and it's important to understand the ideology of anyone that would advocate for violence. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 condemns his supporters. Speaker 1 says they believe in free speech. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 condemns those that support violence. Speaker 1 says people are exercising their right to free speech and talking about the fact that over 320,000 people died from lack of health insurance in the first two years of the pandemic alone. Speaker 1 says we have a violent health care system that needs reform.

Speaker 0 claims that Speaker 1 will sign a national abortion ban and that Project 2025 includes a national abortion monitor. Speaker 1 denies both claims, calling them lies. Speaker 0 states that no state allows killing a baby after birth or a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. Speaker 2 says an infant would be delivered, kept comfortable, resuscitated if desired, and then physicians and the mother would have a discussion. Speaker 0 claims Speaker 1 said there would be a "bloodbath" if he is not elected. Speaker 1 says the term "bloodbath" related to energy and tariffs on cars. Speaker 0 claims Speaker 1 said there were "fine people on each side" in Charlottesville. Speaker 1 clarifies he was not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he says should be condemned. Speaker 0 states that he and Tim Walz are gun owners and are not taking anyone's guns away, and calls for an assault weapons ban, universal background checks, and red flag laws.