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In 2017, the New York Times exposed a secret government UFO program, spurring congressional inquiries. Instruments report unexplained flight characteristics of UAPs, which require investigation. Acknowledging the reality of these phenomena marks a shift. Witnesses claim firsthand knowledge of nonhuman craft, including crashes and retrievals. Recovered biologics were reportedly nonhuman. Some believe the American people are being lied to, but the government claims openness. Nonhuman intelligence exists and has interacted with humanity. The Pentagon and CIA face pressure to respond. Some risk their lives to uncover more. Verification is sought regarding the US government's alleged possession of nonhuman spaceships. Such revelations challenge people's beliefs. One individual would risk jail to disclose information from the program.

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Speaker 0 notes that the last administration was not transparent on the issue, but with the task force created, they have guided members within what they're cleared for. He asserts that they have encountered alien beings and recovered vehicles, with physical proof, and that he was partially cleared into those activities, having read intelligence reports from those programs. Speaker 1 reflects that online discourse about encounters and videos is plentiful, and asks if there is belief that the US government knows about alien beings coming to Earth. Speaker 0 responds that he doesn’t like to characterize where they came from, but they are definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. He claims to have recovered vehicles and physical proof and says he had partial access to the data and to intelligence reports. He confirms seeing with his own eyes according to his account. Speaker 2 says NASA speaks for itself and claims transparency with data, and asks whether to believe David Crush or if he is lying, and where the evidence is. Speaker 0 asserts that members of the current administration are very aware of this reality and the current president is knowledgeable on the subject. He trusts the president’s leadership and believes the president has assembled a team; he says if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3 says he has access and has had meetings with very smart people who believe there is something out there, and it makes sense there could be. He is not convinced himself. He asks if the person believes one, that he knows, and two, that he’s open to transparency on UAPs. Speaker 0 reiterates that the president is very well informed on the issue, and avoids revealing more than the president might want to reveal. He notes a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 1 asks about years of threat and testimony. Speaker 0 says he was physically threatened even before submitting his intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration, and sought legal protection because of professional and personal fear. Speaker 1 asks about recovering pilots or remains and whether that was seen with his own eyes. Speaker 0 confirms there were pictures and says yes, there were remains. Speaker 1 questions whether the origin is from another planet or outer space, and if it is interdimensional, seeking clarification. Speaker 0 explains he has talked to many veterans of the program and keeps an open mind on origin. He acknowledges an extraterrestrial hypothesis but does not usually go there because he did not see the data, and he is not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government has. He is not aware of any remains or signs of extraterrestrial beings or technology by his department. Speaker 3 says the US government knows, but asks whether other governments know. Speaker 0 says they know and have their own programs, and notes that two and a half years ago the US has been in an arms race with peer competitors like Russia and China, who have their own programs. He says he was able to view intelligence discussing adversarial programs and will leave it at that. Speaker 3 states that they’ve recovered things, and Speaker 0 confirms, noting there were bodies and physical remains. They discuss whether the motive or intent of the visitors was peaceful or not, acknowledging a mixed bag of activity and motive. They consider whether Earth’s genetic material could be a reason for visits, even jokingly proposing Jurassic Park as a tourist attraction for genetic material on Earth.

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Speaker 0 describes unidentified phenomena operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities, stating that these are not ours and that they are “otherworldly things” performing maneuvers that have not been seen. He asserts that he has seen with his own eyes nonhuman craft and nonhuman beings. Speaker 1 emphasizes the extraordinary secrecy surrounding the matter, noting that there have been “very few people in our entire government” who have been allowed or provided access to it. Speaker 0 adds that even presidents have been operating on a need to know basis, but argues that the system is beginning to ramp out of control. He states that it is not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees. He says that people have been hurt protecting and hiding this information, and that some individuals claimed it would cost them their lives, yet they spoke out about these things. He further claims that there was information being locked away that could change the trajectory for a species. Speaker 0 concludes by calling the matter “the biggest discovery in human history,” underscoring the enormity of the claimed revelation and its potential implications. In sum, the speakers discuss the presence of nonhuman, apparently otherworldly craft and beings operating in restricted airspace over nuclear facilities, the extreme secrecy and unprecedented access restrictions within the government, the personal risks and sacrifices of those who spoke out, and the belief that suppressing the information has prevented potentially world- or species-changing insights, culminating in the assertion that this constitutes the biggest discovery in human history.

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The speaker admits to being scared to cover two specific topics: the 2020 election and the UFO story. They acknowledge that there may be some merit to the claims made about the election and that some of the ideas about UFOs are dark and difficult to understand. The speaker believes that the government has known about non-human entities for a long time and that there is evidence to support this. They also discuss the government's reluctance to disclose this information due to fear of scaring people. The speaker understands the impulse to hide such radical and heavy truths but still believes in the importance of truth and disclosure.

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The U.S. government was aware of extraterrestrial presence by July 1947 and chose to keep it secret. Witnesses of various incidents have sought to testify before Congress for 30 years. The situation has escalated, with extraterrestrials increasing their activities across multiple continents. The government is aware of these incursions but cannot engage them directly, as shooting them down is not an option and piloted craft could crash. Instead, drones are being deployed to monitor the situation.

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The speaker expresses their concerns about the UFO story, acknowledging that there are fanciful ideas without evidence, but also mentioning dark and unexplained aspects. They believe that the public can't handle the truth due to its profound implications. Another speaker agrees, describing the information as deeply disturbing and too dark to share with their loved ones, including their children. They both acknowledge that the US government has known about non-human entities for a long time, but the justification for secrecy is debated. They understand the impulse to hide such information, despite believing in truth and disclosure. The government's involvement adds to the heaviness of the situation. They conclude by affirming their agreement and acknowledging that they used to discuss these topics during commercial breaks.

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Speaker 1 hesitates when covering government cover-ups because they can be dangerous, unlike topics like Bigfoot or UFOs. Speaker 1 considers themself a patriot, pro-military, and pro-law enforcement, but also anti-war and pro-criminal justice reform. They value fairness and transparency and would like to think the government is good. However, their journey has shown them that it is mostly not, as it is made of flawed and selfish men. Justifications can be made for doing terrible things to stay ahead of terrible people. Speaker 1 says collateral damage is just part of it, such as giving settlements to people to stay quiet for national security.

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The speaker mentions that the information has been discovered independently four times before, but has been suppressed each time. However, this time they believe it won't be suppressed. They mention having interactions with various agency affiliations, both protective and threatening. They state that if the US government hasn't intervened and told them to stop, then they are allowed to proceed. There are people waiting for them to publish, while others are questioning why they haven't been silenced yet. The speaker feels torn between those encouraging them to proceed and those warning them of potential harm.

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Dan Farrah, director and producer of The Age of Disclosure, discusses his new documentary, which he says reveals an eighty-year cover-up of nonhuman intelligent life and a secret race among major nations to reverse engineer advanced technology of nonhuman origin. The film opens in select theaters in New York, Washington, and Los Angeles on November 21 and is available worldwide to purchase or rent on Prime Video. Farrah notes that he interviewed 34 extremely high-level military, government, and intelligence officials who have direct knowledge of the issue. Much of what they know is classified, but in the film they break their silence on what they can lawfully disclose. He states that every interviewee makes it clear that it is no longer a question of whether this is real; it is a very real situation and humanity is not the only intelligence in the universe. Nonhuman intelligence exists, UAPs are real, and they are not human. The film explores questions about who is controlling these UAPs, where they come from, and what their intention might be. Farrah explains that a long time ago the topic was moved away from congressional oversight and even away from presidential oversight, with certain elements within the government and defense contractors gatekeeping knowledge about the topic. Some officials in the film claim to have seen craft and recovered nonhuman bodies, and there are claims of crashed craft and nonhuman bodies within them. He emphasizes that having 34 credible people willing to put their name and reputation on the line constitutes strong evidence in a time when videos and photos can be created or manipulated. A major reveal in the film is that elements of the US government are in a high-stakes secret cold war with adversarial nations like China and Russia to reverse engineer technology of nonhuman origin. The discussion highlights that the first country to crack this technology could lead for years to come. China is said to have established its own UAV task force, signaling a strategic race akin to the Manhattan Project, but on “the atomic weapon on steroids.” The fear is that if another nation wins this race, it could significantly alter global power dynamics. Regarding public reception, Farrah acknowledges skepticism and stigma around the topic. For a long period, the public, Congress, and even the president were kept out of the loop, but in recent years senior Congress members and administration officials, aided by whistleblowers, have begun pursuing the truth for the American people. He suggests that it is only a matter of time before a sitting president steps forward to tell humanity that we are not alone and that the United States intends to lead the way.

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This video discusses the increasing number of UFO sightings and the experiences of former government officials who claim to have knowledge of UFOs. Dave Grush, a former military intelligence officer, asserts that the US government has retrieved bodies and materials from crashed UFOs. The video highlights the culture of secrecy and overclassification surrounding this topic, hindering progress in understanding UFOs. The speaker also suggests that the government may be hiding information about the Kennedy assassination and UFOs to avoid scrutiny. They emphasize the need for transparency and the potential implications of contact with nonhuman intelligences. The speaker expresses personal concerns about potential harm and urges the passing of legislation to disclose information about UFOs.

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The speaker discusses their belief in the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) and government secrecy surrounding it. They mention that while there is no concrete evidence of extraterrestrial beings, they believe the U.S. government has had direct contact with these phenomena. The speaker finds this disturbing and suggests a spiritual component to the phenomenon. They also mention the involvement of the Vatican in studying UAP. Overall, the speaker believes that the truth about UAP is more complex and significant than commonly believed.

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Speaker 0 (anonymous whistleblower): Government seems to be involved. They’re definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. We’ve recovered the vehicles and have physical proof. I was partially cleared into those activities and had access to the data, reading intelligence reports resulting from those programs. Speaker 1: And with your own eyes you’ve seen it. So when people say this is kooky, there’s nothing to back it up… Speaker 2 (NASA): NASA is open and transparent with our data. Do you believe what Mister David Crush said, or is he lying? Whatever he said, where’s the evidence? Speaker 1: What do you say? Speaker 0: Members of this administration are very aware of this reality; the current president is very knowledgeable on this subject, and I trust his leadership. I think he’s assembled a cabinet, and I believe if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, the capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3: I have access and have spoken to people about it. I’ve had meetings with very smart, solid people who believe there is something out there. It makes sense there could be, but I’ve never been convinced, despite that. It’s not my thing. Speaker 1: So you think, one, he knows, and two, he’s open to transparency on UAPs? He’s very well informed on this issue. Leave it at that. I don’t want to get ahead of what the president might want to reveal. There’s been a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 0: I was physically threatened even before I sent in my intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration. I had to seek legal protection because I was fearful professionally and personally. Speaker 1: And when you mention recovering pilots or remains nonhuman, that’s something you saw in the intelligence with your eyes? Speaker 0: Yes. There were pictures. It’s uncomfortable to discuss because it’s outside a normal worldview to understand there is a biological sentience that piloted these crafts and does not necessarily look 100% like us. Speaker 1: Were there pictures? Speaker 0: There were. Speaker 1: When I said from another planet or outer space, you said you don’t know where they’re from. Is it interdimensional? What are we talking about? Speaker 0: I’ve talked to a lot of graybeards about the origin. I leave an open mind. There is an extraterrestrial hypothesis, and they could be coming from elsewhere off Earth, but I didn’t see that data. I’m not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government had. I’m not aware of any remains the department has of extraterrestrial beings or technology. Speaker 1: Do other governments know? Do they have programs? Speaker 0: They have their own programs. Two and a half years ago we’ve been in an arms race with peer competitors—Russia and China—and they have their own programs. I viewed a body of intelligence that discussed adversarial programs. Speaker 1: We’ve recovered things—bodies and physical remains. Was there a sense of their motive or whether it’s peaceful or not? We’ve seen a mixed bag of motives. Speaker 0: Activity and motive vary; the reasons for visiting are not fully understood. Could it be because we have interesting genetic material on Earth and we’re a Jurassic Park tourist attraction? There could be a myriad of reasons. Speaker 1: For other people coming forward, what do you say about intimidation? There are reports of harassment. There’s hope. Congress values whistleblower information now, and there’s appetite to do the right thing. There are things happening behind the scenes that the administration may discuss when ready. Speaker 1: We’ll follow every element. It’s fascinating. Speaker 0: Thanks for having me. Speaker 4: Sean Hannity here. Subscribe to Fox News YouTube pay.

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There are two things that scare the speakers: the 2020 election and the UFO story. The UFO story is particularly dark and has a spiritual component that they don't fully understand. They haven't shared this information with their wives or families because it is deeply disturbing. The implications of the UFO story are profound and the public may not be able to handle it. The speakers agree that it is too disturbing to share with their children.

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Speaker 0: There have been briefings to Congress that lead us to believe there is definitely an advanced technology out there that's not created by mankind. Speaker 1: About a decade ago I revealed on Joe Rogan that from my research in the Global Sun Admissions, aliens don’t come from distant star systems—they come interdimensionally. We have limited sight across our normal light spectrum and into other dimensions. I’ve spoken to high-level Pentagon people, CIA, scientists, physicists, who’ve said it’s an interdimensional invasion. The Bible and other ancient religions reference an unseen presence entering our universe, our domain, our dimension. There’s a clip of her on Fox News Friday night saying it’s interdimensional, but classified. A craft will show up 100 miles away instantly or fly Mach 20 and make a perfect turn—things that would crush solid stainless steel due to gravity. So we know they’re interdimensionally jumping. Now Trump talks about a big reveal; Obama says aliens are real. This isn’t just about UFOs—it's part of a broader awakening. It’s a distraction from Epstein, perhaps, but Trump said after reelection he’d disclose, and there’s a report due. Disclosure is happening on many fronts. We’re focused on UFOs and extraterrestrials, not taking away from exposing Epstein. There’s a lot of disclosure and crazy stuff happening on every front. Speaker 2: He (the other speaker) gave classified information and wasn’t supposed to. Speaker 1: Aliens are real? He gave classified information, whether they’re real or not. Speaker 3: Hours later, the president posted on Truth Social directing the release of government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life and UFOs. We bring in Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, chair of the Oversight Committee Task Force on declassification of federal secrets. She has said there is evidence of interdimensional beings that can operate through the time spaces we have. You told Joe Rogan you’ve viewed evidence of interdimensional beings on Earth that operate through time spaces—can you explain? Speaker 0: Yes. In classified briefings we’ve seen evidence suggesting advanced technology not created by mankind. There are videos, including one where a UAP deflects a Hellfire missile, taken from ISR footage off the coast of Yemen. Some physics defy explanation; not the only government to examine this. I view it through national security: are these technologies adversarial weapons or not? The federal government denying access to Congress is alarming in a free society. We expect the American people to decide after reviewing the evidence. Gates has said that if you’ve seen what we’ve seen, you’ll believe it too. Speaker 3: So you’re saying the Air Force has covered up UAP sightings? Is it because we or others have advanced technology, or because a foreign actor has abilities beyond our understanding? Speaker 0: Based on our interviews and testimony, we have reason to believe this tech is not created by mankind. It’s possible there are advanced US weapons denied access to the public. Unelected bureaucrats denying access to Congress is problematic, and there have been whistleblower threats and even deaths discussed in testimony. There’s bipartisan momentum toward disclosure, and we’ll continue to explore with the American people. President Obama’s remarks and Trump’s anticipated declassification are fueling this process. Speaker 1: The elite seek transcendence and to know the secrets of the universe; some are good, some bad, some mixed. Einstein and Planck suggest multiple dimensions; top scientists and billionaires are now speaking of a false hologram, artificial constraints, and gravity bleeding into this universe, with dark matter as a sign of something deeper. Some say we’re in a computer-generated projection, a thought or dream in a programmer’s mind. There’s talk of a sub-transmission zone below the third dimension fighting to ascend. Some believe humanity is at a fifth or sixth dimension intellectually, while a war rages to determine whether humanity will advance or be controlled by a breakaway civilization merging with machines. Google and others allegedly contemplated building a giant artificial system—a hive-mind AI connected to billions of people—that could predict and influence the future, potentially erasing individual free will. A counterstrike is underway to block such systems and promote genuine debate about humanity’s path, including addressing alleged pedophiles and “psychic vampires” in control of AI before humanity is harmed. The interdimensional force behind these developments is said to grant advanced knowledge to certain groups, sometimes described in religious terms as Satan. There’s more to come as disclosures unfold, including anticipated declassification next week when Trump allegedly releases UFO files. Speaker 3: We’ll be watching and covering it next week as disclosure unfolds.

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A friend or colleague approaches Speaker 1, seeking advice on exposing a cover-up to the American people. Speaker 1 suggests praying about it and offers to connect them with Congress, but strongly advises against taking action. When asked about the importance of shedding light on corruption and misconduct, Speaker 1 admits that it won't solve the problem. They warn that the FBI and the government will crush anyone who tries to expose their wrongdoing, using themselves as an example. The conversation ends on a somber note, with Speaker 0 expressing their sobering thoughts and yielding back.

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The US government is aware of the full story behind UFO sightings but cannot disclose the truth without jeopardizing its secrecy. They also recognize the ongoing extraterrestrial contacts at Farsight, which relies on support from certain military elements advocating for open disclosure. However, there is a division within the military on this issue, while the civilian government appears to be influenced by negative extraterrestrial forces.

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There is no evidence that these beings are aliens from another planet. The speaker believes they have always been here and that the US government has had direct contact with them. They find this disturbing but understand why the government keeps it secret. The speaker thinks there is more to this than just having pieces of their crafts and believes there is a spiritual component involved. The Vatican has been involved in this for over a century. The speaker suggests that the truth is even wilder than what is commonly believed.

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Speaker 0 asserts: I’m not suicidal. Any creator, politician, or celebrity who tries to make a film or documentary on CPS has wound up dead, including a senator. The November film will be their hardest hitting, and they will “rip the veil off” to the point where CPS shows up at your door. Our government is running the world’s largest child trafficking network. They emphasize they would never kill themselves, do drugs, or put themselves in dangerous environments; if anything happens to them, it is the United States government. They watched the first take of the film and say, “they’re gonna kill me.” They urge a trip down memory lane to discuss Pizzagate, stating this is where it all starts. Speaker 1 begins by saying the Pizzagate story has outrageous connections and promising brand-new whistleblower information that will blow minds. They provide an overview: back to Bill and Hillary Clinton, whom many believe to be child pedophiles. They say there’s never been direct evidence, but in 02/2016 WikiLeaks published Hillary Clinton emails with John Podesta showing coded language about a child trafficking ring centered in a Washington, DC pizza restaurant basement at Comet Ping Pong. Edgar Maddison Welch went to the restaurant with firearms to “liberate the children,” but no one was hurt; it was later said there wasn’t a basement, so the scandal was dismissed, though there’s more to the story. The transcript then ties Hillary Clinton to Laura Silsbee, who was involved in trafficking, and outlines a chain: Hillary Clinton and Laura Silsbee exchanged documents detailing logistics of trafficking children from Haiti to Boise, Idaho. Laura Silsbee had previously kidnapped several dozen children from Haiti and attempted to cross into the Dominican Republic; she was caught and the children were returned to their families. Shawnee M. King is cited for reporting on Silsbee’s case. Jorge Puello, an attorney for Silsbee’s group, was suspected of leading an international trafficking ring; Puello was arrested in investigations by ICE and Homeland Security; his wife faced charges of sexual exploitation of minors and women. The narrative claims Hillary Clinton and Laura Silsbee were connected; Bill and Hillary Clinton allegedly helped negotiate the release of Laura Silsbee and her accomplices after their imprisonment in Haiti. Speaker 1 then ties the connections to CPS: the number-one source of child trafficking is the U.S. CPS system, and the number-one gateway to sex trafficking in America is the foster care system. The foster care system allegedly lost over 100,000 children in the last twenty years, raised questions about where they went, and claims millions of children are abused in foster care by financially compensated foster parents and social workers. The Adoptive Safe Families Act (ASFA), championed by Hillary Clinton and signed by Bill Clinton in 1997, supposedly created and financed CPS/foster care by diverting Social Security funds to 50 states, giving a financial incentive to “kidnap” children. It is claimed that CPS targets poor and minority children and single-parent families, and that the system now functions as a government-subsidized child-trafficking ring. Speaker 1 lists correlations: CPS is a tool used to target conservatives; CPS offices get paid per child kidnapped; 83% of removals lack proof of abuse. The claim is that Hillary Clinton created the system and that Laura Silsbee, a friend of Clinton, is involved in Idaho’s CPS network. Laura Silsbee allegedly works with Idaho Department of Health and Welfare (IDHW) and is a registered foster care parent in Idaho, receiving monthly payments for children in her custody, as shown by whistleblower-provided screenshots. Idaho’s Attorney General Raul Labrador opened an investigation into IDHW financial misappropriations, but Idaho’s Department director Dave Jepison resigned and disappeared, and Judge Lynn Norton allegedly issued an order halting the AG’s investigation. The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare allegedly dominates Idaho’s budget, and Laura Silsbee’s role with IDHW is framed as proof of a nationwide system. The narrative concludes by warning Idahoans to beware of Laura Silsbee (aka Laura Gaylor), Judge Norton, and supporters of IDHW, asserting that the system extends to all 50 states, including Arizona, Texas, and Florida, which are described as among the worst offenders in CPS corruption.

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Someone claims their discovery has been independently discovered four other times and suppressed each time. They believe this time is different and they are in the clear. The speaker says they have had both protective and threatening interactions with people of various agency affiliations. They claim that if a US government agent hasn't told them to stop, they will be allowed to continue. Some SSP members are supposedly waiting for the speaker to publish, while others are wondering why the speaker is still working on it after being threatened. The speaker feels they are in a situation where some people are encouraging them to continue, while others are warning them that they will be killed if they do.

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The speaker states they came into contact with industry leaders, technical scientists, active duty and retired military personnel, intelligence officers, generals, admirals, and colonels who directed intelligence at the DIA and CIA. These individuals reached out to the speaker to conduct foreign UAP intelligence analysis and assessment. Based on exposure to classified information, the speaker claims definitively that UAPs are real. The speaker alleges that major world governments, including the United States, China, and Russia, have recovered UAP craft that have landed, crashed, or been found in or outside their territories. These recovered materials have been taken to highly sensitive programs, even more secretive than the Manhattan Project or the modern nuclear weapons industry.

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Many people are afraid to come forward about important issues because they fear the consequences, like what happened to Snowden. The speaker has been speaking out for three years and wonders why others are so afraid. They believe that those who are willing to die for their country should also be willing to speak up. The speaker addresses the audience and those watching online, urging them to come forward and help expose the truth. They mention disinformation sites like Metabunk and Contrail Science, run by someone named Mick West, who tries to discredit those who question persistent contrails. The speaker warns against sharing articles without verifying their credibility, as there are people paid to spread disinformation and make others look noncredible.

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Based on evidence, the speaker believes that supposed aliens have always been here and are spiritual entities. If the US government has made agreements with these beings, it is a very heavy thing. The speaker believes there are forces that are not human that exist in a spiritual realm of some kind that we cannot see. The speaker believes that there is good and evil, and we are being acted upon at all times. People are moved to do things that are better or more evil than they actually are, and are subject to forces from outside themselves.

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In 2017, a New York Times story exposed a secret government UFO program, leading to congressional inquiries. Instruments report unexplained flight characteristics. Acknowledging UAPs is a recent development. One speaker stated that, based on interviews, the government possesses UAPs and that sources claim crash retrievals have occurred, including nonhuman biologics. Another speaker stated that the American people are being lied to. Nonhuman intelligence exists and has interacted with humanity. The Pentagon and CIA will have to respond. One speaker has feared for their life. When asked about verifying the US government's possession of spaceships of nonhuman intelligence, one speaker stated they would go to jail to reveal what they know.

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The speaker expresses their concerns about the UFO story, mentioning that there are some dark and unexplained aspects to it. They believe that parts of the government are suppressing information about it, and that the public may not be able to handle the profound implications. The speaker and another person agree that the subject is deeply disturbing and they haven't even shared it with their loved ones. They discuss the government's involvement and the potential reasons for keeping it hidden. Despite believing in truth and disclosure, they understand the impulse to protect others from such heavy information.

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Joe Rogan Experience #2211 - Michael Shellenberger
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Michael Shellenberger discusses his recent experiences in Brazil, particularly regarding the Twitter Files and extreme censorship in the country. He highlights the actions of a Brazilian Supreme Court justice who has been demanding bans on journalists and politicians from all social media platforms, a tactic reminiscent of military censorship operations. The Brazilian public reacted with large protests advocating for free speech, which Shellenberger found inspiring. Rogan and Shellenberger delve into the implications of censorship, particularly in the context of misinformation surrounding COVID and elections. They discuss the arbitrary nature of bans on individuals, citing specific cases where politicians were deplatformed for supposedly spreading misinformation. Shellenberger expresses disappointment in Brazilian President Lula for supporting censorship, contrasting it with his earlier views of Lula as a proponent of democratic socialism. The conversation shifts to broader themes of censorship, free speech, and the changing political landscape, with Shellenberger reflecting on how the left's stance on free speech has evolved. They discuss the historical context of censorship and the importance of protecting free speech as a fundamental right. As the discussion progresses, they touch on the topic of UFOs and government secrecy. Shellenberger reveals that he has been investigating whistleblower claims regarding UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) and the government's alleged cover-up of information. He mentions a new whistleblower who has provided credible reports about a secret UAP program, suggesting that the Pentagon is withholding significant information from Congress. Rogan and Shellenberger explore the implications of such secrecy, considering the potential societal impact of revealing the truth about extraterrestrial life. They discuss the fear that such revelations could provoke, including the collapse of societal norms and the challenge to established beliefs. The conversation concludes with reflections on the nature of truth, the role of government in managing information, and the importance of transparency in a democratic society. Shellenberger emphasizes the need for stronger whistleblower protections and accountability within government agencies, advocating for a more open dialogue about UAPs and other critical issues facing society today.
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