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One speaker recounts that he did not like Bibi Netanyahu, describing Netanyahu as a destructive force and saying he was appalled by what was happening in Gaza, and that Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute wars for the benefit of his country, which he called shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States, a view he resented. He also notes that he didn’t hate Netanyahu. After that speech, there was a sharp backlash against Charlie Kirk and, to a lesser extent, the speaker, with Kirk having about $100 million in donors and being heavily dependent on them because his project was nonprofit. They went after him and tormented him, while a small, very intense group offended by the speech tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.

The American Jewish Committee called in a statement Charlie Kirk an anti Semite and 'dangerous.' 'Charlie Kirk, an anti Semite.' He was not an anti Semite; he was the opposite, and he was not dangerous. He was a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace. He was the opposite, and he was very stung by that. Charlie was deeply offended by that and expressed some feelings on Megyn Kelly show and in other places, but that did not let up. He called me and then came to see me at my house about this topic. And I said to him, every single time, 'look, I've got my own way to communicate my views. This is actually not the most important issue to me.' There are lots of things I can talk about; I don't need to come to Turning Point. I can take a year off no problem.

They say Charlie Kirk was offered an infusion of $150,000,000 by Israel to shield for Israel harder; Turning Point USA has a budget of $140,000,000. Israel allegedly aimed to make Kirk 'more pro Israel' and back regime change in Iran and 'ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.' Kirk refused the money. Netanyahu then invited him to Jerusalem for a 'reeducation tour' and the Holocaust museum—the burned babies, the beheaded babies; he refused that as well. They offered to bribe him and reeducate him, and he refused both. Two, Bill Ackman hosted this event at his house in the Hamptons where, according to supporters, pro-Israel mouthpieces berated and screamed at him for not supporting Israel enough; Kirk's friends say he felt scared and possibly blackmailed. Well, he's dead now, so he can't tell us what really went down; all we know is the alleged feelings of those present, not his perspective.

Speaker 0 says, "And I don't know how the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep at night." He adds, "No matter what the cost is, you tell the truth. That's it." He alleges that "about forty eight hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi, that he had no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause outright" and that he "refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors." He challenges TPUSA to answer: "Did he express that? Did he also express that he wanted to bring me, Candace Owens, back because he was standing up for himself?" He asks for "'the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the Hamptons weekend'" and whether there were LLCs paying Rob McCoy. He asserts, "Charlie did not die pro Israel. He did not die for Israel," noting that "Friends of Israel were pressuring him really badly." He vows to expose lies and ends, "Somewhere, Charlie is watching."

Charlie mentioned Tucker and Candace forty eight hours earlier as they were trying to control who he's allowed to speak to. He was worried that Israel was infringing upon speech in America; "I have text messages to that effect." He was genuinely pro Israel; "there was nothing. there was not payment that was coming in." Toward the end, he was "over it towards the end because of Jewish behavior". Less than forty eight hours before he died, "Charlie announces that he has no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause because of Jewish donors and their behavior living up to these stereotypes." We never said "Israel killed Charlie Kirk." "I am uncomfortable with how many lies people that support Israel have been telling in the wake of his death."

I was shocked and sickened by the reaction of the ghoulish and really repulsive reaction of the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, to Charlie's death. He basically made it all about him and redirected the grief toward support for his project. "Benjamin Netanyahu is not the same as the nation of Israel at all." "BB's defenders, on the Internet will call me a liar or a kook, but that's a fact." "what he said was completely untrue." "Charlie didn't hate Jews. He loved Jews. He loved the state of Israel. He loved going there." "He did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he said that to me many times." "He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force." "He was resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using The United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country." "Shortly after that speech, there was a very intense attack on Charlie; he had $100,000,000 worth of donors." "Two days before he died, he lost a $2,000,000 donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next Turning Point Conference in December." "They put out a flyer basically saying that I was going to be at this event giving a speech."

"Some of the Internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind the Charlie Kirk murder." "That's insane." "Israel also changes the orbit of the moon; Israel pushes the sun." "When you hate Jews, when you hate the Jewish state, you're willing to say anything and promote all these absurd, absurd rumors." "They're willing to kill us all the time." "We were poisoning the wells, we were drinking the blood of Christian children." "The Nazis said the same thing. You know, we're carrying vermin, we're spreading disease, and people believed it." "Well, since then, we've learned, when people spread these lies about us, prepare yourself for the assault." "Charlie Kirk said to me that he wrote me this detailed letter, you have to fight the slander. These untruths, these vilifications have consequences. And he was right." "He was going to win. That's why they shot him."

I was shocked and sickened by the ghoulish and really repulsive reaction of the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, to Charlie's death, basically made it all about him and his country, redirecting the grief toward support for his projects. Charlie Kirk did not hate Jews. "Charlie didn't hate Jews. He loved Jews." He did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he felt that B. Netanyahu was a very destructive force; "he was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using The United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country, and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for The United States, and he resented it." After that speech, there was an intense attack on Charlie; "He had $100,000,000 worth of donors." Two days before he died, he lost a $2,000,000 donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next Turning Point conference in December. The American Jewish Committee called Charlie Kirk an anti Semite and "dangerous." He was not an anti Semite. He was the opposite, and he was a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace. Seth Dillon of the Babylon Bee was out there demanding that Charlie Kirk take me off the roster, pull me off stage, because I had said things that BB didn't like or that he didn't like or whatever. This is a trend.

This segment recounts escalating pressure on Charlie Kirk over Israel debates. A speaker says: "I'm an American citizen. Yes. I want Israel to win. Yes. I'm a Christian." Kirk says his "moral character is now being put into question" and "I am a bad person if I do this." The piece notes threats to pull funding and that he faced pressure about inviting people, asking "How could Charlie allow these debates about Israel to take place?" It describes a "duress situation" at the Hamptons, with Bill Ackman allegedly pressuring Kirk as Beebe Netanyahu offered "an intervention" and funding. "We just need you to come to Israel and we can make this better" and "We just need you to come to Auschwitz and take a picture." Kirk reportedly "denied that funding" and "Charlie said no to Bebe." Beebe's timing is claimed: "less than twenty four hours after Charlie Kirk was shot."

He did a lot to stifle my career, and suppressed me in many ways. And I antagonized him a lot and mocked him and ridiculed him and attacked his credibility. He was my opponent. But I would never wish death upon him. It is undeniable that he was a towering figure in American conservatism. He died at 31 years old and left a legacy that many people could not achieve in many lifetimes. And ultimately, that is why he was killed. Anyone, everyone, fighting and winning that spiritual battle for Christ and for his kingdom will be persecuted for his sake. And for that, I consider him a true martyr. Charlie Kirk was a good man. God bless him. And I pray for the repose of his soul, for his family, for him.

And I was being attacked too. By the way, it was a huge effort by people, some of whom I know and have helped and like Seth Dillon, the Babylon Bee, for example. Seth Dillon was out there demanding that Charlie Kirk take me off the roster, pull me off stage because I had said things that BB didn't like or that he didn't like or whatever. Shocking that someone whose whole persona is wrapped up in the idea that we all get to speak and if you don't like it, make a more compelling case. That that person and many others like him were advocating for me getting pulled off the stage because they don't like what I'm saying. This is a trend and one that we should be really concerned about. The trend is really simple. People with power don't want to hear disagreement.

“Epstein's probably not like a Mossad agent or something, but Epstein clearly had contact with Israeli intelligence and American intelligence and French intelligence, but the only one you're not allowed to talk about is Israeli intelligence.” He says he told Charlie Kirk to “Go all the way… Do it,” and that conversation may have hit a mic and exists on a server. He describes the “ghoulish and really repulsive reaction” of Benjamin Netanyahu to Charlie's death, saying he tried to redirect grief toward his project and that “Benjamin Netanyahu is not the same as the nation of Israel at all.” He claims “BB's defenders on the internet will call me a liar or a kook, but that's a fact.” He states Charlie “did not hate Jews. He loved Jews. He had tons of friends who were Jews. He loved the state of Israel. He loved going there. He did not like Bibi Netanyahu.” He notes Charlie “had $100,000,000 worth of donors,” and that “Two days before he died, he lost a $2,000,000 donation” after pledging to bring him to Turning Point. The American Jewish Committee called Charlie “an anti Semite” and “dangerous,” which he denies. He references pressure from Seth Dillon to pull him off stage and warns that “There are many liars out there… Bibi Netanyahu, number one among them, shamefully, who are trying to distort the truth, a truth that I know and can prove.”

"It doesn't feel real." "I was not even a fan, not a friend, and actually an adversary, a foe." "We had a lot of differences, ideologically, politically, and we fought viciously." "Charlie Kirk never had a kind word to say about me in his life." "Now that he has died, I'll say some kind words about him." "In spite of that, it is undeniable that he was a towering figure in American conservatism." "He would take on almost any challengers." "And he did it all before the age of 31." "And ultimately that is why he was killed." "He was clearly a loving father, a loving husband." "He was beloved by millions of people." "God bless him." "I pray for the repose of his soul, for his family, for him."

Speaker argues Charlie Kirk’s “financial stake in the future of the company” and leadership of the faith division would matter, noting that if Charlie “decided one day to become Catholic” it would have financial implications. He says, “I never had a conversation that that Charlie was in the process of converting,” but claims “Rob in particular knew for an absolute fact that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him.” He presents alleged proof via a group chat two days before Kirk’s assassination, with nine people including Charlie and Rob McCoy; seven names withheld. In the chat, Charlie writes: “just lost another huge Jewish donor. 2,000,000 a year because we won't cancel Tucker.” “I cannot and will not be bullied like this.” “Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.” A donor writes: “please do not invite Candace.” Forty eight hours before Charles was assassinated. He says Charlie “did not back down” in the Hamptons meeting or the text thread, and suggests donors may be driving the hosts, asking why Carlson and Kelly haven’t condemned them, calling it suspicious and alleging donors might be running them to “eulogize Charlie” who “never once flinched” from the Israeli cause.

The speaker says there is a financial stake in the company tied to Charlie Kirk’s leadership of the faith division and notes concern if Charlie ever became Catholic, though conversion was not discussed. Rob McCoy allegedly knew Charlie was done with Israel bullying. He cites a group chat two days before Kirk’s assassination, with Charlie and Rob McCoy; he says he might release a name every day this week. In the chat, Charlie writes, "just lost another huge Jewish donor. 2,000,000 a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace." A second comment adds, "Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause." The speaker notes it was "forty eight hours before Charles was assassinated" and that Charlie was "very clear and he did not back down" in Hamptons meeting or thread. He questions why others haven’t vindicated these claims and suggests donor pressure may be shaping coverage toward eulogizing Charlie as never flinching in support of the Israeli cause.

Charlie Kirk faced mounting pressure about Israel debates. "I'm an American citizen. Yes. I want Israel to win. Yes. I'm a Christian." He says "the sum of the mess" and that "my moral character is now being put into question" while insisting "I love Israel. I want Israel to win." He recalls "thousands of tweets" and a pattern "similar to what my grandparents saw in nineteen thirties Germany online?" as well as threats to "pull out money" and "nasty text messages." The discussion centered on Tucker Carlson and why Charlie would allow voices like "Dave Smith, who by the way is Jewish" on stage. Beebe Netanyahu allegedly staged "an intervention" by "Bill Ackman" with "threats" after which Charlie "denied that funding" and was invited to Israel, an invitation Charlie "said no to Bebe." "Just take the last step, Charlie." Charlie was praying the rosary. Charlie was going to mass.

Speaker alleges that “within forty eight hours before Charlie passed away, his top Jewish donors were pulling funding from him, demanding that Charlie take their name off of the building that they had donated to Turning Point. And then once Charlie was killed, they said, never mind, put it back on the building.” He says Charlie had “alluded to a tremendous loss of money coming in” and that “more people are going to come out with information. This is all inevitable.” The speaker notes Beebe's PR blitz: “Beebe recently was on a PR blitz despite the fact that he was fighting this ninety six thousand front war because Israel didn't do nothing,” listing podcasts and asking, “Anybody find it weird you didn't do Charlie Kirk show?” Tomey is cited: “Charlie was implied that Charlie was penning love letters to him in May. I just love you so much.” He calls a “hostile takeover” and says after Charlie's death, supporters claim “the energy is Charlie died for Israel,” which is “literally untrue, and we're not going to allow it.” Okay? It's just not true.

Charlie Kirk's perspective on Israel was not starting to shift. It had shifted entirely. Israel knew that. Turning Point USA knew that because Charlie was explicit. He wrote of his deep love for Israel. About forty eight hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause outright. Charlie was done. He said it explicitly that he refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors. Did he express that? Did he also express that he wanted to bring me, Candace Owens, back because he was standing up for himself? And then did he, just forty eight hours later, conveniently catch a bullet to the throat before our on stage reunion could happen?

"The American Jewish Committee called in a statement Charlie Kirk an anti Semite and quote dangerous. 'Charlie Kirk, an anti Semite.' 'Yeah. He was not an anti Semite. He was the opposite, and he was not dangerous.' He was 'a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace,' 'the opposite,' and he was 'very stung by that.' 'Charlie was deeply offended by that' and expressed some of those feelings on Megyn Kelly show and in other places, but that did not let up. The story is told because he called me and then came to see me at my house about this topic. And I said to him every single time, 'look, I've got my own way to communicate my views.' This is actually not the most important issue to me. There are lots of things I can talk about. I don't need to come to Turning Point. I can take a year off no problem. I hated seeing how much he was suffering, the hassle he was getting from people, and I was attacked too. By the way, it was a huge effort. I wasn't fully aware of it actually because I don't go online."

And I was being attacked too. There was a huge effort by people, some of whom I know and have helped and like Seth Dillon, the Babylon Bee, for example. Seth Dillon was out there demanding that Charlie Kirk take me off the roster, pull me off stage because I had said things that BB didn't like or that he didn't like or whatever. Shocking that someone whose whole persona is wrapped up in the idea that we all get to speak and if you don't like it, make a more compelling case. That that person and many others like him were advocating for me getting pulled off the stage because they don't like what I'm saying. This is a trend and one that we should be really concerned about.

I’m going to state this, and I’m going to challenge Turning Point USA executives to issue a very clean statement saying that I am lying if this is not true. About forty eight hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi, that he had no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause outright. Charlie was done. He said it explicitly that he refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors. Did he express that? Did he also express that he wanted to bring me, Candace Owens, back because he was standing up for himself? Just forty eight hours later, a bullet to the throat. Charlie did not die pro Israel. He did not die for Israel. He did not martyr himself as a friend of Israel. The truth is going to win.

"This is an actual group chat, which happened two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated." "There were nine people in total on this chat, including Charlie and Rob McCoy." "Rob McCoy was on this text thread." "just lost another huge Jewish donor. 2,000,000 a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace." "Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause." "please do not invite Candace. That might feel good short term but it's not good long term."

Shortly after that speech, there was a very intense attack on Charlie. He had $100,000,000 worth of donors and was dependent on them, since it's a nonprofit and he worked on projects beyond yapping on the Internet. A small, intense group tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died, though many were supportive. Two days before he died, he lost a $2,000,000 donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next Turning Point Conference in December. He told me over the past couple of months, he was losing a lot of donations over that pledge. They put out a flyer basically saying that I was gonna be at this event giving a speech, and he would text me, 'man, I'm really taking a lot of heat for this, and people are really mad.'

We had our disagreements. Where we did agree is that he would go to these college campuses and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. And ultimately, that is why he was killed. The gunmen that killed him, they hated him because of his defense of Christian morality. Charlie Kirk cannot call himself a Christian anymore. Sorry, you forfeited that. I do not wanna hear and you cannot allow Charlie Kirk to go to one more public event, one more question and answer, one more ask me anything without being protested, without being shouted down, without being interrogated about this. This guy goes around from campus to campus in the most artificial and phony and fake way talking about, oh, God, God made me very blessed that I control $500,000,000. And then you go around from campus to campus making excuses for a famine?

"Charlie Kirk should not have been assassinated." "That's what I said that caused tens of thousands of Democrats to come into my comments and mentions literally hurling homophobic slurs at me." "The ultimate irony is that that's the reason why you justify the assassination of Charlie Kirk was because he was such a bigot and he said all these horrible things, which aren't even real quotes, by the way." "You hate him for things he never even said." "Meanwhile, you guys are actively saying things that are infinitely worse than anything that Charlie Kirk said." "And you guys don't see it." "You don't have that ability to self reflect." "You have no ability to self reflect." "You guys you guys can literally sit there being the nastiest, meanest, most cruel hearted people ever and genuinely believe that you're the good guy because you're doing it to bad people." "Oh, yeah. What is wrong with you?"