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In a local county commissioner race, the Dominion machine results showed Lorne Alexander with 34.67%, Marshall Orson with 41.35%, and Michelle Long Spears with 23.98%. Since no candidate reached 50%, a runoff was needed. Spears found precincts where she received zero votes, including her own. A hand recount revealed discrepancies, with Spears gaining 3,620 votes. The hand count showed 2,810 more votes than the machines reported, raising concerns about the machines' accuracy. This highlights the need for trustworthy voting systems. If Spears hadn't raised concerns, the discrepancies may have gone unnoticed. Translation: In a local election, the Dominion machines initially showed Lorne Alexander and Marshall Orson leading, but Michelle Long Spears raised concerns after receiving no votes in some precincts, including her own. A hand recount revealed significant discrepancies, with Spears gaining thousands of votes. This raised doubts about the accuracy of the machines and the need for reliable voting systems. Without Spears' intervention, the issues may have gone unnoticed.

The discussion centers on the integrity of the 2020 election processes and how Georgia’s handling of audits and recounts could shape reforms for 2026. Speaker 0 argues that ensuring elections represent the will of the people is fundamental, noting that Trump and his allies made a spectacle in 2020 by pursuing audits and recounts and even the Capitol insurrection, yet Georgia, among other states, would not have allowed Trump to win even without Georgia’s results. They claim Democrats and progressives avoided touching the issue in 2024 despite Trump’s unexpected nationwide sweep, and criticize the inability to conduct a proper recount. Speaker 1 warns that Trump’s team is likely to present ballots and photographs from 2020 to claim irregularities, arguing that there were thousands of irregularities in Fulton County, with miscounts and ballot manipulation possible, though there is no evidence that these irregularities would have changed the Georgia result. They contend that irregularities occurred both ways and tended to offset, but many records were destroyed and the recount and audit lacked quality. The speaker asserts that 2026 must avoid untrustworthy machines and inadequate audit/recount processes. The speakers discuss the possibility that Trump’s supporters will use information from the DOJ to misrepresent the facts, stating that even if facts were presented, they would expose known errors in the certified processes. They allege that ballots were counted multiple times during the recount, including counting some ballots two or three times and even introducing fake test ballots to force outcomes. Marilyn is cited as noting that a Barack Obama appointee judge confirmed the unreliability of Dominion machines, and that a demonstration at DEF CON Voting Village showed how easily a Dominion machine could be hacked. Jessica is referenced as discussing Phil Davis, a pro-Trump election integrity figure who admitted that Biden won Georgia despite his broader views. The point is to emphasize that, even among election integrity experts with conservative leanings, there is belief that Biden won Georgia. The conversation returns to Raffensperger, who selected the machines and the audit/recount method, spending approximately $150 million on machines and avoiding transparency about errors. The guests argue that the law required a hand count at tables with representatives from both campaigns and the clerk, instead of a machine-only recount. Bypassing this process enabled the perception of fraud and contributed to the January 6 insurrection’s fuel in Georgia. A key lesson for 2026, they assert, is to implement a transparent process with hand counts and representative participation at counting tables, preventing the bypass of proper procedures and reducing the political pressure that distorts outcomes. They critique the atmosphere surrounding the 2020 aftermath as vilifying and pressure-filled, predicting a similar environment in 2026 unless genuine transparency and nonpartisan verification are pursued.

They stopped counting votes on election night to determine how many mail-in ballots to add, which the speaker believes was fraudulent. The speaker insists it was a planned event, claiming it wouldn't happen in Texas. They express concern over the authenticity of mail-in ballots and assert that anyone could have filled them out. The other person questions the validity of these claims, but the speaker stands by their belief based on personal experience.

Georgia owes President Donald J. Trump an apology for election fraud. Evidence shows 17,852 votes were counted without ballot images, and 3,930 ballots were scanned and counted twice intentionally. The process involved randomly selecting and rescanning ballots on different days. This deliberate duplication was not an administrative error but human intervention, constituting election fraud. The speaker urges Secretary Raffensperger to investigate independently.

Governor Kemp is being challenged to prove the fairness of the election. The speaker suggests unsealing 150,000 mail-in ballots stored in a Fulton County warehouse for three and a half years. They claim that six affidavits state that 30,000 of these ballots were fake and ran through a scanner at night. The speaker urges the governor to order a forensic audit of these ballots, as they allegedly show signs of fraud. They argue that if the governor truly believes the election was fair, he should take this step. However, the speaker doubts that the governor will do so.

Speaker 0 mentions the possibility of printing out something. Speaker 1 asks if there is an explanation for the uncounted votes. Speaker 2 clarifies that there is no concrete explanation for why those votes were not counted by the machine in the first place. Speaker 1 confirms that they don't know why the votes didn't get scanned. Speaker 2 asks if the Dominion Tech guys have figured out the reason, but Speaker 0 says they are not allowed to comment. Speaker 1 believes it wasn't a memory card issue. Speaker 2 asks if memory cards can be ruled out, and Speaker 1 agrees. Speaker 0 suggests it may be human error, but they don't have evidence to confirm it. Speaker 2 questions if it could be a software issue, but Speaker 0 refuses to speculate. Speaker 2 acknowledges the lack of a definite answer.

We subpoenaed Fulton County for 518,000 ballot images from the recount, not from election day. There are 380,761 missing ballot images from election day. Fulton County has not provided an explanation for this discrepancy. It is important for every vote to have a corresponding ballot image. Translation: We requested ballot images from Fulton County for the recount, not for election day. There are 380,761 missing ballot images from election day that have not been explained. It is crucial that every vote has a corresponding ballot image.

A conversation takes place between two individuals. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if they are aware that Cobb County has passed multiple audits, including a recent signature audit with a 99.99% accuracy rate. Speaker 1 confirms their awareness and mentions attending a press conference where they received recognition. Speaker 0 then asks if Speaker 1 is aware that the audit was supervised by the secretary of state and the Georgia department GBI. Speaker 1 acknowledges this and recalls witnessing the GBI bringing back boxes of ballots, including an unmarked ballot box. Speaker 0 mentions that both the secretary of state and GBI certified the 99.99% accuracy rate. Speaker 1 expresses skepticism, as there were no observers present during the audit, and they rely on their own observations. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 thanking Speaker 1, who responds with "you're welcome."

We submitted a report and complaint to the state election board, hoping for honesty from the Georgia secretary of state's office. We found manipulated votes in machine counts and falsified hand counts. We want the truth to come out and for them to acknowledge the evidence.

The speaker mentions the history of elections in Fulton County, Georgia. Another speaker brings up an interesting incident during a 99% audit on signatures. They found that many ballots did not have the required red initials, indicating approval. Once separated from the outer envelope, these ballots still had to be counted. This poses a problem as it undermines the accuracy of the audit. The speaker expresses concern about the lack of proper examination for dozens of ballots on Saturday. The conversation concludes with a thank you to Miss Fisher.

On election night, the results from tabulating machines appeared inaccurate. The board decided to conduct a hand recount to ensure accurate election results. The speaker questions this decision, stating they have advocated for hand recounts for twenty years.

I have never denied the outcome of the election, and I want to make it clear that we won. While I may not have gotten the job, I did get the votes, although the exact number is uncertain due to cheating. I believe we were robbed of the election, and when I say "rigged" or "stolen," I have evidence to back it up. I'm not saying they stole it from me, but from the voters of Georgia. In the ten days following the election, before what we call my "non-concession day," I made it clear that I will never concede because it was not a free and fair election. Thousands of Georgians were unable to cast ballots, effectively having their voices stolen. We must ensure this never happens again, and that all votes are counted in future elections.

Speaker 0: They reject the rule of law and the will of the people, refusing to accept the election results. Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, May 16, 2017, claimed our election was hijacked and there is no doubt about it. Speaker 2: Even if you run a great campaign, become the nominee, the election can still be stolen from you. Speaker 0: Trump did not truly win the 2016 election; he lost. Speaker 1: He knows he's an illegitimate president who didn't really win. How do we fight against him in 2020? He's illegitimate. Speaker 3: He's illegitimate, and my biggest fear is that he'll do it again with the help of his pal Vlad. We'll be stuck with him for 6 more terrifying years. Speaker 0: Would you be my vice presidential candidate? I agree. Speaker 1: Bush versus Gore, a court took away the presidency. Al Gore was the true winner. Speaker 4: I believe I won the last presidential election. They stole it. Speaker 0: Al Gore won that election, or at least I think he did. Speaker 5: Rolling Stone questioned if the 2004 election was stolen. Speaker 4: I witnessed troubling evidence that not every vote was counted in Illinois 4 years ago. Speaker 1: The November 2, 2004 election was not transparent or accurate. There are legitimate questions about our election system's accuracy. Despite the final tally, I have one affirmative statement to make.

On election night, the results from tabulating machines appeared inaccurate. The board decided to conduct a hand recount to ensure accurate election results. The speaker notes that they have been advocating for hand recounts for twenty years.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 reminisce about questioning rigged carnival games as kids. Speaker 0 expresses distrust in computers, particularly voting machines, due to concerns about election integrity. Speaker 1 jokingly asks if this extends to other machines like sewing machines and ice machines. Speaker 0 clarifies that it specifically applies to voting machines, as they want fair elections. Speaker 1 humorously suggests melting down machines, but Speaker 0 insists on focusing on voting machines. Speaker 0 emphasizes the need for someone to examine the evidence regarding election fraud. Speaker 0 offers to provide evidence to Speaker 1 and mentions the financial cost of his crusade. The segment ends with Speaker 1 expressing support for Speaker 0.

I received another certified letter from the state election board, proving that both the hand audit and certified machine count in Georgia violated election law. To those who fought for the truth, I say one word: vindicated. Thank you.

Speaker 0 recounts what happened yesterday as it relates to the actual fact pattern of law and a warrant issued by a magistrate judge based on probable cause after evidence was submitted, not a Trump-appointed judge. He notes that the law enforcement process in America works this way. He argues that declarations of perfection of the 2020 election are inconsistent with what happened, and then lays out specifics. He asserts that drop boxes were “invented out of thin air,” with no basis in Georgia law. He says mobile voting units moved through Fulton County to 80% Democrat precincts, 81% Democrat precincts to be precise, and that this was not envisioned in Georgia law. He claims 6,800,000 absentee ballot request forms with a first-class stamp were mailed to every registered voter in Georgia, again “nowhere envisioned in Georgia law.” He adds that if the same ballots are counted three times, the numbers should match, but they did not. Regarding the recount, he states that 3,930 double-scanned ballots were found in Fulton County alone, and thousands of those were confirmed by the state election board. He notes that Governor Kemp raised concerns from the Rossi report and that there were double-scanned ballots, but even after double scanning, the numbers did not match on the second recount, being off by eight hundred fifty ballots. He asks, “Not one person here can answer the question of how that happened.” He says ballot images were deleted and test ballots were included in the recount process, and that this was confirmed. He then discusses Democrats’ response to legitimate questions about the 2020 election. A former constituent, Derek Summerville, former FBI agent, ran data analysis with Mark Davis. They questioned the 6,800,000 absentee ballot request forms (with a first-class stamp), noting that if a national change of address form was filed, forwarding could occur. They identified reasonable cause to question the validity of 39,141 of those ballots cast. They found that 160 people were registered to vote from a single UPS store, 2,138 from one church in Fulton County, and 1,391 from a shuttered 1,000-square-foot building in Fulton County. The transcript states that thousands of people remain registered to vote in Fulton County at UPS stores, storage units, pack mails, and homeless shelters that haven’t been open for over five years. Summerville and Davis filed objections to these voters, but Stacey Abrams sued them in federal court and they won—Judge Jones ruled in their favor, not Stacey Abrams. The speaker notes that since then, “twelve zero” of the 39, zero voters had been removed from the voter rolls because Summerville and Davis were correct that they were no longer eligible to vote; 9,500 had updated addresses outside Fulton County, proving that those voters were ineligible. Ultimately, 84% of the votes whose eligibility Summerville and Davis challenged were proven to have been invalid voters in the 2020 election. The speaker concludes by urging an end to the charade of the most perfect, most secure election in history and advocates cleaning up Fulton County’s voter rolls for future elections.

The Georgia state election board voted to require hand-counting ballots in November, potentially lengthening the time to tally results. This decision raises concerns about the intention behind it, especially with the election a month and a half away. It is questioned whether the state has the capacity to hand-count nearly 10 million votes. Concerns are raised about staffing at the county level and security for volunteers, who have been threatened in the past. The decision could create chaos and make it easier for Donald Trump to call election officials and ask them to find votes, similar to what allegedly happened after 2020. The speaker hopes the decision is challenged in court, fearing a return to the chaos of the 2000 Florida election.

Speaker 0: Jim Jordan played a significant role in Trump's attempt to challenge the election results. Speaker 1: Trump requested a vote recount, which is not the same as overthrowing the government. However, some believe the media's continuous portrayal of this narrative is influenced by project Mockingbird. Regardless, everyone involved is part of it.

The speaker asks the woman if she is aware that Cobb County has passed multiple audits, including a recent signature audit with a 99.99% accuracy rate. The woman confirms her awareness and mentions a press conference where they received recognition. The speaker then asks if she knows that the audit was supervised by the secretary of state and the Georgia department GBI. The woman acknowledges this and recalls being present when the GBI brought back boxes of ballots, including an unmarked one that she believes contained military ballots. The speaker mentions that both the secretary of state and GBI certified the 99.99% accuracy rate, but the woman expresses skepticism due to the lack of observers during the audit. The conversation ends with gratitude.

Speaker 0 asks for reassurance that the upcoming election won't be rigged or stolen. Speaker 1 responds by mentioning that having Democrats in charge of the voting machines in Ohio is helpful. However, they also acknowledge that both Republicans and Democrats have manipulated elections in the past. Speaker 1 explains that those in power tend to try to tilt things in their favor.

Speaker 0 mentions the possibility of printing out something. Speaker 1 asks about the reason for the uncounted votes. Speaker 2 clarifies that there is no concrete explanation for why those votes were not counted by the machine. Speaker 1 confirms that they don't know why the votes didn't get scanned. Speaker 2 asks if the Dominion Tech guys have figured out the reason, but Speaker 0 says they are not allowed to comment. Speaker 2 points out that it hasn't been confirmed if it was a memory card issue. Speaker 1 agrees and suggests it could be human error. Speaker 0 says the ballots didn't transfer over correctly, but they don't have a definite answer yet. Speaker 2 asks if it could be a software issue, but Speaker 0 refuses to speculate. They conclude that they don't have a pinpointed answer at the moment.

- The discussion centers on Fulton County’s ballot-seizure case and the implication that the affidavit relied on was built from recycled conspiracy theories by a known conspiracy figure. It is asserted that the judge was not told these issues had already been relitigated, and that the administration appears intent on applying the same approach elsewhere. - Question raised: can these efforts be stopped, given the underlying pattern and what the other side is pursuing? And what is their plan for 2026 if they lack the 2020 conspiracies to lean on? - Jen notes her role as counsel in the Fulton County matter and declines to comment further on the specifics. - Jessica forecasts that Trump-aligned actors will pull out 2020 ballots and photos, arguing that the numbers don’t add up and that the machines were faulty and the people fudged because, allegedly, in Fulton County they did. She emphasizes that there is no evidence that the irregularities would have changed the outcome in Georgia, but acknowledges there were thousands of irregularities, with records destroyed and chain-of-custody issues, and that the recount and audit were of poor quality. She warns that in 2026 the same approach could be used again with untrustworthy machines and flawed audits, and warns that even if actual facts are shown, they would highlight known errors. - Marilyn adds the point that a Barack Obama-appointee judge confirmed the unreliability of the machines and notes a demonstrator at DEFCON Voting Village showed how easily a Dominion machine can be hacked. She cites a view that Biden still won Georgia, despite the “fudged audits,” and argues that the intent behind the questionable procedures was to obscure errors. - Jessica identifies Raffensperger as the official who chose the machines and funded the expansive spending on them, suggesting he did not want critical issues to be exposed. She asserts that the process was designed to avoid scrutiny and that the results were obtained by running ballots through the machine multiple times to adjust numbers, including using test ballots to influence results. - The conversation concludes with a focus on the importance of recounts and audits, and the need for a transparent process in 2026. Jessica argues that Georgia’s issues stemmed from an audit with bogus processes and a recount conducted through machines rather than a hand count at counting tables with observers from both campaigns and the clerk. She asserts that the transparency of the counting process could have mitigated much of the controversy and that the lesson for 2026 is to implement a transparent system.

We counted Georgia's election ballots three times, confirming no consequential fraud. Despite issues with ballot images and scanning errors, the recount showed similar results to the original count. Doubts remain about double scanning and counting of votes, suggesting potential fraud. The Secretary of State's office conducted an exhaustive investigation, but concerns persist about the accuracy of the results. The Georgia State Election Board is commended for their diligence and transparency in addressing election issues.

Speaker 0: I won, but they cheated. We were robbed of an election. Speaker 1: I don't think it's dangerous to use words like rigged and steal because we can back it up. Speaker 0: The election was stolen from the voters, not just from me. I won't concede because our democracy is being eroded. Speaker 1: The election was not free and fair. Thousands of Georgians had their voices stolen. We can't guarantee their votes will be counted in 2020. Speaker 2: Should the Democratic nominee concede if they can prove widespread voter suppression? Speaker 1: No, we shouldn't concede until we know the results. If it looks like cheating or rigging, it probably is. Speaker 0: We've been taught to accept defeat, but I refuse to concede. The process was not fair. Speaker 1: The election was stolen from Georgia voters. As long as eligible citizens can't vote, the system is rigged. I didn't lose, I just didn't win. Speaker 0: I didn't win officially. We don't know what really happened because of voter suppression. Speaker 1: He is the legal governor, but that doesn't mean he won legitimately. Speaker 0: Just because you win doesn't mean you won. We'll never know for sure if I got more votes. Speaker 1: I refuse to concede because it wasn't fair or right. He performed poorly and crassly against the people he represents. Speaker 1: Georgia voters were suppressed, their votes weren't counted. Brian Kemp dismantled our democracy. Speaker 0: I recognize I'm not the governor, but we won.