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Israel, a 3000-year-old nation, was renamed by Joshua Binoon and later proclaimed as the capital by King David. Even Jesus referred to it as Israel. The Roman emperor Hadrian expelled Jews and replaced the name Judea with Palestine. Shechem was also renamed Neapolis. The Jewish people are not foreign colonialists in Israel. It is important to promote peaceful coexistence between Israel and Palestine, based on truth and not misinformation.

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Speaker 0: The Israelites is not Israel. And as Tony and I are both Catholic, and so when we talk about the Israelites that are talked about in the Bible, there is a clear distinction between this prophecy about the Israelites and the government of Israel and white Europeans settling into the holy land. Mhmm. And so when we say this, like, the Israelites, the Israelites in the bible are actually the Palestinian people who have been there for thousands of years, not the white European from Ukraine or Poland or America. The Israelites are the people who were indigenous to that land that lived there for thousands of years, and those are not the people who have Trump wrapped around his finger. It's this, like, settler colonial white Europeans that have settled into the land of the actual Israelites that have either blackmailed him or cut deals with him financially. I mean, we go back to greed. Right? Greed is always, like, a big factor decisions. So Trump, in all senses, is wrapped in intertwined with this government and the Zionist regime and the Rothschilds and the Vanderbilts and the 13 rich families that control the world, basically. Right.

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We should not use the term "Palestinian" because there is no such thing as a Palestinian person.

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I want to debunk the myth of occupation. The law of occupation applies when a sovereign is ousted from its territory, but there is no state of Palestine. There never was one. The idea of occupation in a legal sense doesn't hold because there is no sovereign from which land could have been occupied. The term "occupation" used here is purely political. The possibility of a future state of Palestine depends on negotiations and factors we don't have time to address tonight.

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Yisrael Chai argues that Palestinians seeking a state and justice for Palestinians have framed Israel as humanity’s enemy, a “big lie” the Jewish world has failed to confront or truthfully publicize. He asserts there is no such thing as Palestine or a Palestinian people, and that the indigenous land inhabitants are Jews who possess entitlement to the land “based in law, in history, and morality,” an entitlement the Jewish world has not stated openly. He observes a new spirit in Israel, particularly among the young, determined to defeat the enemy rather than merely manage conflict. The era of “mowing the lawn” is over; the approach must be to defeat the enemy, moving away from diaspora/galut mentality that seeks to appease the world. He contrasts the Talmudic diaspora mentality—self-protective, inward-looking—with the Tanakh-directed stance of ancient and modern Jewish defense, insisting the current war reflects the resurrection of the Tanakh Jew and the return of the heroic Davidic warrior, whose strength comes from identity. Chai emphasizes that diaspora Jews, including those in Britain and America, must recognize themselves first as Jews, with other identities secondary, and understand they are part of the Jewish people and nation. He identifies an “unholy alliance” in the West between the left and Islamists, which reframes Jewish control as demonic and appoints the West’s liberal, guilt-laden stance as a posthumous victory of Stalin and Hitler. He cites Holocaust guilt as a driver of depicting Jews as victimizers to absolve Western historic guilt, alongside the rise of identity politics that attacks Western nation-states and core Western values, which he links to an onslaught on Judaism. He argues that the Palestine cause is central to these dynamics: it aims at destroying the Jewish state and “stealing the Jews’ own history,” and he contends it has become the West’s cause of causes, undermining core Western values that derive from Judaism. Chai frames the Palestine cause as a form of Islamic holy war and a Trojan horse for Islamic dominance in the West, suggesting that by adopting Palestine’s language, the West has invited its own destruction. He claims the West no longer has the will to defend itself and, by failing to recognize what it is, invites Islamists to conquer. Israel, in contrast, is presented as the West’s solution and a model of defending life: “Israel defeats its enemies because it has a will to live. … Israel is telling the West, you should choose life.” He concludes that this is a seismic, defining moment in Jewish history, a “Jewish moment,” and declares, “We must rise to it. I'm Yisrael Chai.”

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Lie number one, Israel is the only Jewish state in the world. False. Israel is the second. The Jewish Autonomous Oblast is the first. Founded in 1934, it predates Israel and is located in Russia's Far Eastern Federal District. At 14,000 square miles, it's 75% bigger than Israel and bordered by China, North Korea, and Russia. Relocating there would prevent the endless problems that the world currently faces because of Israeli expansionism. Honestly, it would be better for everyone if they did. Lie number two, Jews had nowhere to flee during Nazi Germany. False. The Havara agreement reached in 1933 between Nazi Germany and Zionist organizations, primarily the Jewish Agency for Palestine, allowed German Jews to migrate to Palestine by transferring their assets to Germany, then reclaiming them in form of German exported goods. This allowed Jews to keep some of their wealth and the Zionist movement to increase Jewish immigration to Palestine, which is what they wanted. Over 60,000 German Jews immigrated to Palestine under this agreement between 1933 and 1939. Lie number three, Palestinians never wanted Jews in Palestine. False. As tens of thousands of Jews migrated to Palestine during the Havarah agreement and World War two, Palestinians welcomed them even into their own homes. The Jews were housed, clothed, fed, and given refuge. Then one day, those same Jewish families that they'd cared for locked the Palestinian families out of their homes and backed by the military, threatened their lives if they returned. I'm not making this stuff up you guys. It's everywhere. You just have to be willing to see it.

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Someone challenged the existence of Palestine as a sovereign state, but that argument is flawed because many countries gained statehood recently. The Bible is often used to support the claim of Jewish people to the land, but it also mentions a preexisting Palestinian king in the book of Genesis. This suggests that a Palestinian state existed before the Jewish presence. Although it didn't cover the entire region, it included a significant portion of southwestern Israel. The real issue here is that some people don't want Palestinians to exist, as evidenced by articles suggesting they should be driven into the Sinai Desert.

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Two, they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. They're talking about basically removing 2,500,000 people from there.

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Speaker 0 asserts that Bezalel Smotrich and Ben Gavir are “literally talking about exterminating the entire population of Gaza.” Speaker 1 counters that they are not talking about extermination. Speaker 0 insists the statements are brazen, up front, and what they actually want to do. Speaker 0 adds that Hamas is involved in a separate context. Speaker 0 says, “The West Bank had nothing to do with what happened on October 7, but they're annexing that land anyway. They're raining terror on innocent people, innocent Palestinians.” Speaker 0 concedes, “I am willing to admit, because it's the truth, that what Hamas did on October 7 was a fucking atrocity,” specifically mentioning killing innocent people. Speaker 1 challenges acknowledgement of atrocities against civilians in Gaza. Speaker 0 asks about a hospital being tapped; Speaker 1 responds that it’s an old terrorist trick and they do it “all the time.” Speaker 0 asks whether the IDF's action was wrong. Speaker 1 concedes, “I'm sure they have committed what we would call war crimes, as every army does in every war.” Speaker 0 notes, “Including our own.” Speaker 1 agrees, giving the Civil War example: Sherman burned Atlanta and Vad, arguing that despite brutality, the North were the good guys fighting slavery, and also noting Israel is fighting to survive and is the front line in the Western world. Speaker 0 disputes this, saying much of the problems in the Middle East come from an expansionist policy and that if Israel wasn’t trying to continue expanding, they would not be dealing with the enemies they’re dealing with. Speaker 1 disagrees that they ever were expanding, arguing they “were attacked” and that they “never been trying to expand.” Speaker 0 claims Israel is trying to annex the West Bank, southern Lebanon, and Syria, and argues they have succeeded in doing so. Speaker 1 says these are lands where they were attacked from when Israel became a country in 1947; he claims Israel said, “we will accept half a loaf,” and asserts they had as much right to that land as anybody, with a historical presence since a thousand BC when King David had a lineage. Speaker 0 dismisses this lineage-based argument as irrelevant to the present. Speaker 1 counters that it’s relevant, and asserts that the notion of wiping out innocent people merely because one’s ancestors lived there centuries ago is not acceptable. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 calling Palestinians colonizers, and Speaker 1 arguing they are not colonizers; they assert that Israel is annexing land, which, in their view, is described as colonization.

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Rothschild Zionism, not Jewish people, is the problem. Jewish people are its victims. Anti-Zionism is not antisemitism because Zionism is a political system, a secret society placing its agents in power. One doesn't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist. Many Jewish people protest Zionism, and Zionism and Judaism are diametrically opposed. Zionism is state-organized terror, yet this is not reported. The Rothschild dynasty created Israel and paid for its infrastructure, including the Knesset and Supreme Court. Israel is not the homeland of Jewish people but the Rothschild dynasty's fiefdom, created out of Rothschild Zionism. It has been used to devastate and slaughter Palestinians while claiming to be against terrorism. This is genocide: the systematic extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. Gaza is a concentration camp, and Palestinian homes are being demolished and given to extremist settlers.

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The speaker argues that the indigeneity of Palestinians to the land of Palestine does not entitle them to their own country within Israel. They claim almost every country was conquered, citing Canada and Australia as examples where indigenous populations like the Inuits and Aboriginals are not allowed to create their own countries. The speaker states that in 1948, Jews won a war against Arabs and Palestinians on the land, and therefore, it is now their country. They assert that no other country is expected to separate and give land to indigenous people. The speaker believes that demanding this of Israel is a result of Jew hatred, as such demands are not made of countries like the US, Mexico, Canada, or Australia.

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Is the media presenting the truth when it comes to Israel? Ethnic cleansing: the idea that population movement is equivalent to ethnic cleansing. If people want to leave, they can, but they're not being forced to leave. Moving people out of areas honeycombed with terrorist booby traps is not the same thing as ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing is very often used as a softer form of the genocide attack, the idea that Israel is trying to kill everyone. Legacy media are radically anti Israel overall. The New York Times cannot be accused of being a pro Israel outlet. They're gonna say Ben pro Israel. You Jews own the media, Ben. I'm a Jew, I'm a Zionist. BB said 'you can't be MAGA if you're anti Israel.' You can disagree with Bibi's policies and still be MAGA. If you're pro Hamas, you're something darker, and we shouldn't put up with that.

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Israel wanted peace with the Arabic world since its existence. The PLO was founded in 1964 when the West Bank was in Jordan's hands and Gaza was in Egypt's, not because of occupation, but to eliminate Jews. Palestinians lost Gaza and the West Bank in 1967 because they preempted an attack against Israel. In 2000, Ehud Barak offered 97% of territories back, but it was refused. In 2005, Israel withdrew from Gaza, removing its people and even Jewish remains from cemeteries. Greenhouses exporting $50 million in flowers were left for Palestinians, but they destroyed synagogues and greenhouses. Hamas then had an election. A woman was elected to the cabinet of Hamas because she had videos of her sons dressing as suicide bombers. Hamas put Palestinians in a prison in Gaza. Gaza could have been Singapore, but instead, Hamas built tunnels instead of helping their people. Palestinians brought this on themselves.

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I believe that Israel should establish its current borders and Palestine should find another place to live. This may sound harsh, but it's my perspective. Dave, do you think Palestine should have some power?

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Speaker 0 states that settlers do not plan attacks in advance and do not wake up thinking about violence because their life is good. Speaker 1 claims Speaker 0 wants Palestinians to leave, but Speaker 0 denies this. Speaker 0 says what is on their mind is how to bring more people to settle the land and develop it. Speaker 0 claims to not think in terms of Beta because they think, "I'm a Jew, I'm a settler, I'm a human being." Speaker 1 suggests Speaker 0 is thinking tribally, prioritizing their own people to the exclusion of others, which Speaker 1 calls sociopathic. Speaker 0 disagrees, stating this is normal.

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I'm an Israeli patriot who cares about Israel, but I believe there is no symmetry or conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. Instead, there is a brutal Israeli occupation that must end. The regime in our backyard is one of the most cruel and brutal tyrannies on Earth, resembling apartheid. In the occupied territories, one group has all the rights while the other has none. Visit the Jordan Valley to witness the stark contrast between prosperous Israeli settlements and the Palestinians living without basic necessities or rights. It's clear that this is apartheid, and no one can deny it.

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But if you if you were to say, how does Israel solve this problem forever in the future? I think that if you leave a scrap of Palestinian DNA Wait. Can I ask you real quick? If we destroy all of Gaza, what is the loss to the world? I didn't say that there's a loss to the world. I don't really think that the Palestinians provide Wait. Time out. If Israel did eliminate 2,300,000 Gazans. Right? Let's say it took them even a long time, short time, whatever. They just completely eliminate, wipe them all out. This would cause a response by the Arab countries. There would 100% cause a response by the Arab countries. They would thank us. But I legitimately cannot think of any

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The speaker asserts that Israel is not Israel and that the Zionists steal everything, including property and food. The Zionist occupation of Palestine, which calls itself Israel, is described as built on lies and theft and evil, with the name Israel stolen and misappropriated to deceive the world. The name supposedly originates from the Old Testament: Jacob, renamed Israel, had twelve tribes, and over time covenants with God defined who was in the House of God or Israel, later associated with the Church of the Desert. Crystallizing through Jesus, those who accepted the New Covenant were grafted into this House of God, becoming the Christian church established by Jesus and his apostles at Pentecost, before the New Testament was written, completed, and canonized. Those who rejected the covenant were deprived of salvation, and most outspoken rejecters of Jesus were Jews, though some Jews accepted Christ and entered the New Covenant, becoming Christians. The speaker denies the existence of a Messianic Jew, asserting it is fraudulent, a Jew who wants to retain privileges while posing as a Christian. In the New Testament, “ Jew ” is presented as a pejorative term for those who rejected Christ in favor of Barabbas, with Romans presenting Jesus’ crucifixion after Judeans chose Barabbas. Some prefer the term Pharisee to avoid antisemitism accusations. Through Christ, God opened up Israel to everyone, while Israel itself remained the same, though evangelism was not initially part of God’s plan; Jesus later instructed his apostles to spread the Word to all humanity. Gentiles were grafted into the house of Israel, i.e., the Christian Church, and the true Israel is the Church. Salvation is not a birthright; bloodline does not grant spiritual privilege, and entering Heaven requires effort amid temptation. A covenant has terms and conditions that must be adhered to, and if not, the contract is void. This is criticized as a mistake by Christian Zionists, who allegedly ignore this. The speaker questions whether today’s Jews are actual descendants of Abraham, noting that behavior matters and a contract requires mutual respect; God keeps his promises, but man does not. The discussion moves to Jesus as Messiah and the Logos Incarnate, denying that Jews today are God’s chosen people or that there is divine DNA or a birthright. Calvinist predestination is condemned as biological determinism, implying questions about free will and the relevance of behavior. The Enlightenment and Darwinian theory are cited as developments following Reformation-driven shifts toward determinism and new denominations, implying a lack of verifiable genetic continuity between modern Jews and ancient Israelites and stressing that behavior remains irrelevant to such claims. Fast forward to 1948, when Zionists established a state under the name Israel, described as stolen to mislead evangelicals and religious Jews within the Zionist movement. The claim is made that Zionism arose from Judaism, with early Jewish advocates like Moses Hess and his work Rome and Jerusalem supporting a Jewish state as an alliance between secular and religious Jews. The speaker contends that Christians who supported Zionism were not truly Christian, and that Protestant splintering led to divisions, Judaization of many groups, and efforts to witness the arrival of messiahs. A spiritual conflict is described where evangelicals, not true Christians, support a “chosen people” and a regime calling itself Israel. The true Israel, the speaker concludes, is not a territory or physical location but a spiritual fellowship of people who follow Jesus. The Zionist occupation of Palestine, named Israel since 1948, is described as a Jewish military dictatorship masquerading as a country, fooling both religious and secular audiences, with control of media and Hollywood obscuring the truth. The claim ends with an analogy: a name does not make something real, just as a person can call himself Jesus but not be the Messiah. A counterfeit dollar is used as a comparison.

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Speaker 0 argues that chanting “from the river to the sea” is in favor of a second holocaust. He suggests some students are ignorant and do not understand what they’re talking about, noting they talk about “end the occupation of Palestine” and needing a history lesson. He states that there has never been a Palestinian Arab state. Before World War I, the land experienced centuries under the Ottoman Empire and was not a Palestinian Arab state. Then came the British mandate for Palestine, followed by a UN partition plan that proposed a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jews accepted the state and founded Israel, while the Arabs rejected the state and went to war to try to eradicate Israel, and they lost. He says they went to war again and lost in 1967 and 1973 and throughout the Intifadas. Consequently, he asserts that the land historically has “no stronger connection” than any group of people except the Jewish people, and that connection goes back thousands of years. He concludes with a call to “Read your bible.”

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Israel must assert its strength and declare to the United States, the international community, the European Union, and France that Jerusalem will never be divided. They do not want a Palestinian state because the borders are indefensible. The Judea and Samaria regions are the birthplace of Judaism and an integral part of Israel. It is up to us to respond with more firmness than before.

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For 30 years, I've consistently said that the conflict is not about the lack of a Palestinian state, but about the existence of a Jewish state. Whenever we have evacuated an area, we have faced terrible acts of terrorism, whether it was in South Lebanon, Gaza, or Judea and Samaria. Therefore, I believe that in any future arrangement, Israel must have control over the entire area from the river to the sea. This is what sovereignty entails. I want to emphasize this truth to our American friends and prevent any attempts to impose a reality that would put us in danger. As the Prime Minister of Israel, it is important to be able to say no, even to our closest allies, when necessary, and to say yes when possible.

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There is a misconception that the entire Palestinian nation is responsible for the atrocities committed. This is not true. It is puzzling to see the world's concern for the Palestinian people, when it should be directed towards those who have committed terrible acts.

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In 1946, Palestine was much larger, but has since shrunk to Gaza and the West Bank. Without a peace agreement, more Palestinian land may be taken by Jewish settlements. Israelis argue they have the right to live anywhere, but this impacts the future Palestinian state. The changing geography maps shown previously were inaccurate. Translation: In 1946, Palestine was larger, but now it's just Gaza and the West Bank. Without peace, more land may be taken by Jewish settlements. Israelis believe they can live anywhere, affecting the future Palestinian state. The maps shown before were wrong.

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I support Israel keeping its borders where they are now and Palestine finding a new place to live. It may sound harsh, but that's what I believe.

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Israeli settlers in Palestine are not innocent civilians, but rather people who have been paid to live in a land they claim as their own. They support the terrorist organization IVF and commit acts of violence against Palestinians. Arab and Muslim condemnation of the Israeli army without supporting violence is criticized. The notion of Hamas being a terrorist organization is seen as propaganda to justify violence against Palestinians. Peace can only be achieved when Palestinians regain their land and the colonizers leave. The idea of a coexisting two-state solution is dismissed, as Israel is seen as a political creation. The situation is described as genocide, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing that has been ongoing for over 75 years.
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