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Speaker 0 asserts that Nine-Eleven began as commercial insurance fraud and that in 1988 the Twin Towers were condemned because they did not want to pay to dismantle them, with controlled demolitions forbidden. He says Dick Cheney, as secretary of defense, responded, “praise the lord,” expecting a terrorism event to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan. He claims Nine-Eleven was planned and executed by “the Zionists,” clarified as not the Jews, describing a “red mafia”—Russians, Israelis, and Americans—controlling Benjamin Netanyahu but not Donald Trump, who he says is biding his time. He contends the NSA is not about safety but keeping money moving, and that the program was canceled because it would reveal Americans complicit in Nine-Eleven. He alleges the intelligence community wastes money on bad actions, focusing only on war and terrorism, and that they start wars and fund terrorists. Speaker 1 recounts a group of Zionists negotiating with the Nazis to allow German Jews to immigrate and transfer assets to Palestine, citing the 1933 Transfer Agreement. He notes that German Jewish settlement in Palestine was Nazi policy for a time and references Der Angriff publishing photos of Jewish life in Palestine with a Nazi series; a medal by Gerbils commemorating this, showing a swastika and Star of David. He states Hitler demanded Zionists reject the call for a boycott of the Reich, which the Zionists conceded. Speaker 2 says some allies have been funding ISIS and Al Qaeda, asks who, implying Saudis and others, and notes that people know this but do not say it publicly. Speaker 3 explains that CIA, Mossad, and intelligence agencies are unnamed but suggests Mossad is under the prime minister’s office and would be called the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service, joking that initials would be ISIS. Speaker 7 makes a snide remark about Julian Maxwell’s father being an Israeli super spy, and Speaker 5 references “antiseptic, Jenny.” Speaker 8 discusses building a relationship with some unspecified actors and acknowledges a trust deficit; he recalls the U.S. support of fighters in Afghanistan against the Soviets, arming mujahideen with Stinger missiles, and leaving them after the Soviet withdrawal, admitting the U.S. helped create the next problems. He notes a pattern of moving in and out of Pakistan, emphasizing that the current fight involves people funded two decades earlier. Speaker 3 adds details about Brzezinski’s 1980s effort to arm the mujahideen while concealing U.S. involvement, speaking warmly of the fighters and their cause. Speaker 4/Speaker 10 discuss a 2017 plan to push against Russia, portraying the fight as against Putin rather than the Russian people, with commitments to inform the American public of Afghan bravery and to support the effort against Putin; Speaker 10 expresses confidence in winning and receiving support. Speaker 11 shifts to the U.S., asking about the assassination of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan; Speaker 12 responds that bin Laden was trained by the ISI and CIA along with Al Qaeda two decades earlier, stating that these groups were assets of the Pakistan Army and the ISI. Overall, the transcript presents a series of unverified conspiracy claims about 9/11, Zionist influence, NSA motives, Nazi-Zionist interactions, international funding of extremist groups, and U.S. covert actions in Afghanistan/Pakistan, interwoven with insinuations about intelligence agencies and state actors.

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Biden and Austin admitted that the purpose of the war in Ukraine was not about Ukrainian freedom, but rather to exhaust the Russian army and engage in a proxy war. The US repeatedly prevented Zelensky from signing the Minsk Accords, which could have prevented the war. The speaker believes that the US deliberately provoked Russia and that the war could have been avoided. They argue that the US's actions have led to negative consequences, such as pushing Russia towards China and risking the dollar's status as the world reserve currency. Additionally, the speaker highlights the danger of provoking a nuclear superpower and questions why the conflict was not resolved peacefully from the start.

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The speaker addressed the House Republicans' report on the Afghanistan withdrawal, calling it a partisan report that says little new. According to the speaker, the Trump administration's Doha Agreement mandated a complete U.S. withdrawal, including from Bagram Air Base, and released 5,000 Taliban fighters. This agreement demoralized the Afghan government and military. President Trump ordered a rushed exit by Christmas 2020. President Biden chose to abide by the agreement to end the war. The speaker refuted several claims in the report, stating that the Department of Defense prepositioned military units, the rapid collapse of Afghan forces was unanticipated, securing Bagram Air Base was impractical, U.S. equipment was not handed over to the Taliban but left behind by Afghan forces, and there was no deception from the current administration. The speaker stated that ending wars is difficult, but the withdrawal was conducted professionally. The speaker acknowledged the tragic loss of life, especially at Abbey Gate, and honored those who served in Afghanistan. The speaker concluded that with the war over, the nation can focus on other security interests.

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The speaker suggests they rely on Putin's worldview due to their knowledge of the United States' actions, citing the US bombing of Belgrade to create Kosovo and install a NATO base. They claim the US has repeatedly engaged in illegal wars, including in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya, and that the US overthrew Yanukovych in Kiev in 2014, despite an EU agreement for early elections. The speaker says that in 2015, Russia advocated for peace through negotiations, leading to the Minsk 2 agreement, which was unanimously approved by the UN Security Council. However, the speaker claims the US government laughed at it, and Angela Merkel admitted it was a holding pattern to allow Ukraine to build strength. The speaker distrusts the US government and wants both sides to agree on terms publicly. They propose that the US and Russia commit to not overthrowing governments or expanding beyond agreed boundaries, and that NATO halt its enlargement.

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The speaker asserts that President Trump should not be blamed for the failure in Afghanistan, placing the responsibility on Secretary Lloyd Austin, President Biden, and his administration. They argue that President Trump would not have abandoned military equipment or left the Afghan people under Taliban control. The speaker urges the adoption of their amendment to use the Holman rule to remove Secretary Austin from his position, claiming that he is leading the military to failure. The speech concludes with the speaker yielding their time.

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The speaker claims that during his first term, President Trump rescued over 50 hostages and detainees from around the world, which is more than every president before him combined. According to the speaker, Trump authorized operations in places like Afghanistan using Seal Team six and Delta, and approved taking out figures like Baghdadi and Soleimani. The speaker states that Trump's directive was to protect the homeland without endangering the armed forces and intelligence community. The speaker believes the media did not give credit to the Trump administration for these successes due to hatred and disinformation. The speaker alleges that the transition from Trump to Biden administrations involved a refusal to continue successful policies to avoid attributing them to Trump.

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The speaker suggests the US has a history of breaking international law, citing the bombing of Belgrade to create Kosovo and install a NATO base. They claim the US illegally went to war in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria, with the Obama administration tasking the CIA to overthrow Bashar al Assad. They also allege the US and NATO illegally bombed Libya to topple Muammar Gaddafi and that the US overthrew Yanukovych in Kyiv in 2014, despite an EU agreement for early elections. The speaker states that the Minsk two agreement, intended to bring peace through negotiations between Ukraine and ethnic Russians, was unanimously adopted by the UN Security Council but was disregarded by the US government. They claim Angela Merkel admitted Minsk two was just a holding pattern to allow Ukraine to build its strength. The speaker distrusts the US government and wants both sides to agree to terms publicly, with the US promising not to overthrow governments, Russia agreeing not to advance further, and NATO agreeing not to enlarge.

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America's strength lies in diplomacy, which we are pursuing with the current president. Russia occupied parts of Ukraine back in 2014, and despite numerous conversations and ceasefire agreements, they continued attacks. My administration is trying to prevent the destruction of your country. Everyone faces challenges during war, but you need to appreciate the support you're receiving. We've provided substantial financial and military aid. If you had to fight this war on your own, it would have been over in two weeks. Be thankful. It's important for the American people to see what's happening. Without our support, you don't have a chance. We gave you javelins, not just sheets. I have empowered you, but without us, you're vulnerable. Make a deal, or we're out. You're not acting thankful at all.

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The speaker suggests the US has a history of interventionism, citing the bombing of Belgrade to create Kosovo and establish a NATO base. They claim the US illegally engaged in wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria, with the Obama administration tasking the CIA to overthrow Bashar al Assad. They also allege the US, along with right-wing Ukrainian military forces, overthrew Yanukovych in Kyiv in 2014, despite an EU agreement for early elections. The speaker states that in 2015, Russia wanted peace through negotiations, leading to the Minsk II agreement, which was unanimously voted on by the UN Security Council and signed by Ukraine. However, the speaker claims the US government laughed at it, and Angela Merkel admitted it was a holding pattern to allow Ukraine to build strength. The speaker distrusts the US government and wants both sides to agree to terms publicly, with the US agreeing to stop overthrowing governments, Russia agreeing to not advance further, and NATO agreeing to not enlarge.

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The speaker believes Putin's recent actions suggest he may not want to end the war, but also states that Putin wants peace. The speaker asserts that if it weren't for them, Putin would want to take over all of Ukraine. The speaker believes Putin saw the Afghanistan situation and thought it was his chance to take Ukraine, which was "the apple of his eye." The speaker claims that Putin's first choice was to take all of Ukraine, but he didn't act during the speaker's term. The speaker believes Putin respects them, and because of that, Putin won't take over the entire country. The speaker does not trust many people, including the interviewer, but believes Putin respects them. The speaker concludes the war never should have happened and blames incompetent people.

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Afghanistan is no longer a safe haven for terrorists, but it has become chaotic. The speaker blames President Biden for the situation and urges him to address the Taliban. Many American citizens and others have been left behind, causing frustration and anger. The speaker mentions that some US citizens were unable to access the airport. Despite the challenges, the speaker believes the mission is not yet a failure, but acknowledges the threat of ISIS.

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The speaker suggests they rely on Putin's worldview due to their knowledge of the United States' actions, citing the US bombing of Belgrade to create Kosovo and install a NATO base. They claim the US has repeatedly engaged in illegal wars, including in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya, and that the US, along with right-wing Ukrainian forces, overthrew Yanukovych in Kiev in 2014, despite an EU-brokered agreement for early elections. The speaker says that in 2015, Russia advocated for peace through negotiations, leading to the Minsk 2 agreement, which was unanimously approved by the UN Security Council. However, the speaker claims the US government laughed at Minsk 2, and Angela Merkel admitted it was a holding pattern to allow Ukraine to build strength. The speaker distrusts the US government and wants both sides to agree to terms publicly, with the US agreeing not to overthrow governments and Russia agreeing not to advance further, with NATO not enlarging.

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President Trump, along with Mike Pompeo, met with Taliban leaders to negotiate a conditions-based withdrawal from Afghanistan. Trump made it clear that any harm to Americans would result in consequences, showing a satellite photo of a Taliban leader's home as a warning before leaving the room.

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My son fought in Ukraine because he saw Putin as a bully. This war is about Russia's security, not territory. Since 1992, they've opposed NATO in Ukraine due to historical invasions. They feel threatened because NATO has expanded eastward despite promises otherwise. We overthrew Ukraine's government in 2014, prompting Russian response. A peace treaty was negotiated but then disregarded. Boris Johnson stopped Zelensky from finalizing another agreement with Putin, leading to many deaths. We wanted the war, spending money that could be used at home. Trump, a dealmaker, aims to resolve this. Putin feared Ukraine attacking Russia, which Zelensky seemingly confirmed. The Afghan withdrawal was a calamity due to political timelines. We should have withdrawn troops responsibly.

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The speaker criticizes Mr. Biden for not holding anyone accountable and for his treatment of Gold Star Families. They express their disgust and call him a disgrace to the nation. The speaker regrets not speaking up when they had the chance and accuses Mr. Biden of stealing lives and ripping apart families. They question the logic behind leaving Bagram and leaving behind military hardware, which they believe will lead to more American lives lost. They also mention domestic issues like the border and failed foreign policy decisions, suggesting that Mr. Biden has more American blood on his hands than any other president in U.S. history.

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The speaker explains that the US funded the Mujahideen in Afghanistan 20 years ago to fight against the Soviet Union. They imported fighters from Saudi Arabia and other places to defeat the Soviets, which eventually led to their retreat and the collapse of the Soviet Union. However, after the Soviets left, the US distanced itself from Pakistan and the Mujahideen, leaving behind a mess. The speaker acknowledges that the US helped create the problem they are now fighting, as the people they supported against the Soviets are the same ones they are fighting today.

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President Trump wanted a conditions-based withdrawal from Afghanistan. During negotiations with the Taliban, Trump told the Taliban leader through a translator that if they harmed a single American, he would kill them. Trump then handed the Taliban leader a satellite photo of his home. According to the speaker, after this incident, no Americans were killed in Afghanistan for 18 months. The speaker equates this to strength, suggesting that under President Trump, other countries would fear harming American interests abroad due to the potential consequences.

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the presence and influence of the Taliban within government and international circles, and the U.S. approach to engagement. Speaker 1 suggests that while there may not be overt Taliban infiltration as a formal party, there are lobbyists, supporters, and Taliban in neckties and suits in Washington, pointing to the speech of the U.S. special envoy to Afghanistan, Thomas West, as evidence of whitewashing the Taliban. Speaker 0 counters that the U.S. is in regular, productive dialogue with the Taliban, and believes the Taliban are sincere but frustrated. He notes that no sanctions have been passed against the Taliban since last August, that four Americans have returned, but several remain in Taliban custody. He also highlights that the U.S. has backed the shipment of hundreds of millions of dollars in cash into the country since August, and claims it is actually over $1,000,000,000. Speaker 0 states that the U.S. has cooperated with the Taliban on certain discrete issues, including closing roads and managing crowds to prevent terrorist disruption, and that he has had a series of engagements with senior Taliban leaders. When asked about returning to Afghanistan to meet with the Taliban, he says, “The sooner, the better,” noting that the Taliban want sanctions relief, development aid, and a big seat at the table. He mentions an announced plan to pump in another $308,000,000, and describes mechanisms that are getting hundreds of millions of dollars in cash directly into the banking system. The Taliban purportedly want to seat their permanent representative in New York. ISIS-K is described as a common enemy, with the Taliban maintaining a vigorous and robust effort against it. He asserts that, despite concerns, they are building productive relationships and an honest dialogue with Taliban members, while acknowledging the priority of countering ISIS-K. He references the Doha agreement breach by the Taliban in sheltering Ayman al-Zawahiri in downtown Kabul, which he characterizes as unacceptable and a major breach, and states that even after this event, the U.S. is prepared to engage pragmatically with the Taliban regarding terrorism concerns. Speaker 1 adds that the UN and World Bank are developing a humanitarian exchange facility to move more Afghans into the system, noting that many banknotes have circulated for over ten years and are not accepted by shops or the central bank. He mentions a private-sector arrangement in Europe facilitating the shipment of hundreds of millions in cash into private banks in Afghanistan, with money going to the Afghanistan International Bank (AIB), which allegedly lacks authority to convert dollars to Afghanis and to auction them, and then passes funds to the Taliban-controlled Central Bank of Afghanistan. He asks who is in charge of the Central Bank, identifying Nur Ahmad Ora as the head, described as sanctioned by the U.S. for financing IED attacks that killed American soldiers. He concludes that diplomacy with the Taliban is essential to achieve objectives and asks whether there are Taliban in elections, asserting that they hold official offices and are present, urging the listener to review their statements to determine if they are Taliban sympathizers or whitewashing the Taliban. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 remarking, “Man, that's scary.”

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ISIS and Taliban are enemies fighting each other. The speaker questioned why the US should intervene, suggesting they should let them fight as both are enemies. The generals disagreed and ended up fighting both groups, which the speaker found to be crazy.

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The discussion centers on Donald Trump's claim of speaking with "Abdul," the head of the Taliban. Sources confirm Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar as a cofounder and de facto leader, who met with CIA Director William Burns in Kabul and oversaw the US withdrawal agreement signing. However, commentators suggest "Abdul" is a fabrication. They point out the actual leader is Hibbatola Akunzada Akunzada. It's claimed no one can confirm the existence of a Taliban leader named Abdul. One speaker suggests Trump simply chose a common Muslim name, comparing it to a Taliban leader referring to "John" or "Billy" as leading the West.

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The speaker claims that another individual threatened to abandon NATO and encouraged Putin to invade allied countries, stating Russia could "do whatever the hell they want." The speaker says that five days before Russia attacked Ukraine, they met with President Zelensky to warn him about Russia's invasion plans. They claim to have mobilized a global response of over 50 countries to defend against Putin's aggression. The speaker asserts that, as president, they will stand strong with Ukraine and NATO allies.

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He broke agreements and killed our people, refusing prisoner exchanges. What diplomacy is that? We're trying to prevent your country's destruction. Have you even been to Ukraine to understand our problems? During war, everyone faces issues. Don't dictate what we'll feel. We'll be strong. You're gambling with lives and risking World War III, showing disrespect to the country that has supported you. Have you even said thank you? You campaigned against us. Do you think speaking loudly changes things? You're not winning. We've given you billions in aid and military equipment. Without our help, the war would have ended quickly. Just say thank you, accept disagreements, and discuss them instead of fighting in the media when you're wrong. It's important for Americans to see this. You're running low on soldiers, and you should want a ceasefire to stop the bloodshed.

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I'm aligned with the US and the world, and I want to end this conflict. It's hard to make a deal with so much hatred. I could be tough, but that won't get us anywhere. For four years, tough talk didn't stop Putin. Diplomacy is the path to peace. Others didn't stop Putin from occupying parts of Ukraine since 2014. We signed ceasefire and gas contracts, but he broke them, killing people and not exchanging prisoners. I am trying to end the destruction of your country. Everyone has problems during war, even you. You've allowed yourself to be in a bad position. You're gambling with lives and World War III, and that's disrespectful to the US. You haven't said thank you, and campaigned against us. Your country is in trouble and not winning. If we are out, you will be fighting on your own.

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The speaker states that military matters should not be approached politically, but that Mark Milley has become a political animal. The speaker claims they would have fired Milley immediately if they had known he spoke with the Chinese in January 2020, assuring them that the U.S. military was under control. The speaker says Milley never informed them about these conversations. The speaker concludes that Milley, along with someone else, should have left after Afghanistan.

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Aftermath of Afghanistan and Julian Assange Allegations with Mike Pompeo and Jack Carr
Guests: Mike Pompeo, Jack Carr
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Megyn Kelly welcomes former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to discuss the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, which resulted in the deaths of 13 U.S. service members and left many Americans behind. General Mark Milley, during recent congressional hearings, described the war as a strategic failure and emphasized the Taliban's ongoing ties to al-Qaeda. Pompeo, who played a significant role in the U.S. withdrawal strategy under President Trump, reflects on his experience leading the CIA and the importance of maintaining national security. Pompeo addresses allegations against Milley regarding a call to his Chinese counterpart, where Milley allegedly assured that the U.S. would not attack China. Pompeo expresses concern over Milley’s comments and the implications of potentially warning adversaries about military actions. He emphasizes that the Trump administration operated under a deterrence model, making it clear that any threats to U.S. interests would be met with force. The conversation shifts to the withdrawal from Afghanistan, with Pompeo acknowledging that the Taliban did not meet the conditions set in the Doha agreement. He explains that the Trump administration aimed to reduce troop levels while ensuring American interests were protected, asserting that the Taliban refrained from attacking U.S. forces during their tenure due to the credible threat of military action. Kelly and Pompeo discuss the aftermath of the withdrawal, including the abandonment of Afghan allies and the chaotic evacuation process. Pompeo criticizes President Biden for not taking responsibility for the withdrawal's execution and highlights the emotional toll on service members who feel their sacrifices were in vain. Jack Carr, a former Navy SEAL, joins the show to provide his perspective on the military's failures and the need for accountability among senior leaders. He argues that the military's focus has shifted away from winning wars and emphasizes the importance of adapting to changing conditions on the ground. Carr expresses concern over the lack of accountability for military leaders and the need for a more effective selection process for generals. The discussion concludes with a focus on raising patriotic children in a climate that often portrays America negatively. Carr stresses the importance of parental involvement in countering negative narratives and instilling a sense of pride in American values and history.
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