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There's a shift towards corporate carbon capture and geoengineering solutions, which the speaker opposes, especially since those pushing geoengineering often have IP rights and patents, creating a self-serving appearance. The speaker sided with Dutch farmers protesting environmental rules on nitrate fertilizers, viewing it as a corporate and government collusion that forced farmers into chemical and GMO-dependent farming. After farmers switched to hydrocarbon-based fertilizers and monocultures, they were told these practices were bad and would be shut down. The speaker views this as a bait and switch to destroy small farmers. They believe that broad land ownership by yeoman farmers is necessary for democracy. Wiping out small farmers and giving control of food production to corporations is not in the interest of humanity. Farmers need help transitioning off the addiction imposed upon them.

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Using fertilizer, buying tractors, insecticides, and herbicides is what farmers are encouraged to do. However, after 17 years of practicing rotational grazing, the speaker firmly believes it is the superior approach. They emphasize that the money saved from not purchasing these inputs can be considered as profit.

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We will have to explain to our kids what being a parent was like when they were kids. It's pretty crazy. The government was out of control, poisoning everything and sending our money to other countries. We couldn't pay our bills. We had to buy food from local farmers because the government poisoned everything. The medical industry was the number one killer, but we couldn't say anything because they were in control. We did things to preserve your fertility. That's why we're farmers. Any questions?

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The government is providing £2,500 for three years to participate in a scheme that requires no supplies. I plan to use this funding to cultivate land and receive £440 per acre. I can leave crops in the ground without harvesting, which means no straw for cattle or bread production. Additionally, I can plant bee and wild bird seed, for which I can also get paid. My accountant advises this approach since I won't need to buy expensive fertilizer, which has skyrocketed to £1,000 per ton due to the Ukraine war. This way, I can maintain a crop without the costs of spraying or tractor work while still earning £440 per acre.

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We need a food emancipation proclamation. I'm not an abolitionist; we wanna outlaw Monsanto and glyphosate. But 'regulatory solution' is 'the worst option possible.' The speakers push for a 'viable underground railroad' to escape the regulatory system and take ownership of our food choices; if this existed, 'the price of local food would drop by 30 or 40%,' 'Food deserts would go away' as empty lots become food spaces and small farmers could make a full-time living. They argue large-scale farming can coexist, with disruption possibly beneficial, and that 'Food buyers would leave the industrial system in mass if alternatives were cheaper, more available, and more abundant.' Let these people do their thing. In a liberty-centered system, 'Who wins and who loses?' The average person and participating farmers win; 'the entrenched oligarchy' loses. 'If they were suddenly pressured by a 100,000 little competitors, we would see changes very fast.'

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The transcript features a large American farm run by a few people, renowned for profit and soil rebuilding. A neighbor's eroded soybean field contrasts with this farmer's perennial pasture and windbreak. The farmer cites six soil-health principles: 1) work with nature locally, 2) minimal mechanical/chemical disturbance, 3) keep soil covered (armor), 4) diversity rather than monoculture, 5) living roots year-round, 6) integration of animals and insects. A second speaker says he has not taken a government subsidy since 02/2019, no crop insurance, and eliminated seed treatments and pesticides; this saves about $2,000,000 annually. He speaks of family legacy avoiding chemicals and building a regenerative no-till system. A study of 100 corn/soy farmers found 88% reported higher earnings with soil health practices. The conclusion urges shifting to regenerative agriculture to heal soils, rivers, and communities, presenting humanity a choice between regeneration and degradation.

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Many farms today have absentee owners who receive bailout money, including individuals from major cities like New York, Miami, and San Francisco. Among these recipients are professionals such as bankers, architects, and musicians, which doesn't align with the traditional image of a farmer. The view is that the real farmers, like those working the land, should be the ones receiving financial support. The sentiment is that only those who are directly involved in farming, with hands in the dirt, deserve the aid, not those who are disconnected from the day-to-day operations.

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Seed companies pressure farmers to buy their seeds by threatening lawsuits if farmers use their own seeds. Farmers must pay fees to plant genetically modified seeds and risk being audited if they don't repurchase. This system leaves farmers without ownership of their crops, as companies can claim rights to any genetic traces found. For example, buying seeds for 300 acres of soybeans cost over $30,000.

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The speaker contrasts GMO sweet corn from the store with heirloom corn, noting the sunflowers turning away from the sun. They claim aluminum levels in the soil are now five to ten times higher than last year. Cucumber and hot pepper plants are not producing as much as in previous years. Normally, the speaker would have excess produce to give away, but this year the garden has suffered the worst. The speaker states they will still be able to maintain operational costs and can enough for their family. However, they claim they won't be able to provide for others as much as in the past.

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"Americans are living six years less than our European counterparts." "USDA was created to ensure a wholesome food supply." "They're making war on the small farmer, and they're making war on public health." "you have to eat eight carrots today to get the same nutritional value that one carrot would give you a generation ago." "the carrot is then loaded with all of those chemicals with atrazine, with neonicotinoid pesticides, with glyphosate, and this entire universe of terrible terrible chemicals for which none of them have been adequately tested for safety." "Chemicals when they're approved by FDA, USDA, and EPA, the burden of proof is on the agency to prove that the chemical is dangerous." "The assumption is that all chemicals are good for you unless proven guilty."

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The speaker explains that they never switched to Monsanto Soybeans because they were getting good yields with conventional soybeans. They mention that their neighbors all use GMO soybeans, which can affect their crops. Another speaker points out that when a crop is genetically modified, the company owns it, which is a new concept in agriculture. They compare Monsanto to Microsoft, saying that Monsanto aims to own the intellectual property behind most of the food in America. Public plant breeding is now rare, and there are only a few varieties of soybeans available. The speaker expresses concern about not being able to buy certified seed and mentions a blacklist of unauthorized growers. They are on the list because they refused to turn over their records. The speaker concludes by discussing the limitations they face in choosing what to plant.

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Speaker 0 argues that farmers are fully justified in taking action. They point to beef as an example: a farmer earns about 3 euros per kilo when he has a chance, while in shops consumers pay about 15 euros per kilo or more for minced meat. They state that someone is getting rich from this, but it is not the farmers. They explain that farmers' costs have risen significantly in recent years, whereas food multinationals have driven up prices in stores, yet farmers receive only minimal compensation for their products. Some farmers even operate at a loss, while shareholders accumulate profits. They insist that this must change. There must be a return of respect for farmers, and a return of a fair price for farmers.

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Chuck Benbrook states that American farmers are as reliant on pesticides as they were 30-40 years ago. Pesticides seem like a simple solution for farmers dealing with weeds, insects, or plant diseases and have created a profitable industry. Farmers have become overly reliant on them, and the adverse effects of pesticides on the pests themselves has become a huge problem.

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I'm here to discuss why companies like Gates and China are buying up farmland. I spent years suing factory farms, including Smithfield Foods, the largest pork producer. Smithfield came to North Carolina and, with a partner, created large-scale hog warehouses, dropping pork prices from 60¢ to 2¢ a pound. This put 28,000 independent hog farmers out of business, replaced by 2,200 factories controlled by or contracted to Smithfield. Farmers became like serfs on their own land, losing control over their practices. Smithfield dictated everything. Because of the price drop in North Carolina, Iowa had to adopt the same system. Eventually Smithfield controlled 80% of US hog production and then sold itself to China. Now China owns a large part of our hog production, threatening Thomas Jefferson's vision of a democracy rooted in independent family farms. This industrial agriculture gives us substandard food and threatens American democracy.

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The transcript presents a claim that seed companies pressure farmers to buy their seeds, contributing to higher food costs. It asserts that farmers can be sued if they plant their own seeds, and that farmers do not own the genetics of their crops unless they use heirloom seeds. To plant these seeds, farmers must pay a fee, and seed companies can come onto a farmer’s property to inspect plants; if any part contains the company’s genetics, the farmer can be sued. The speaker emphasizes that farmers do not own the hard work of growing the plant because of these seed-ownership practices. Seed companies are described as reminding farmers of their purchasing history by saying, “we know you bought our seed last year,” and that if farmers do not buy seeds again, the companies will audit them. The speaker then shares a personal example: an order of three totes, sufficient to plant 300 acres of soybeans and to have the right to plant them, cost over $30,000.

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Our government is providing £2,500 for the next 3 years to plant crops without harvesting them, receiving £440 per acre. Fertilizer prices have increased due to the Ukraine war, now costing £1,000 per ton. There are options to plant crops for birds and bees, as well as wild bird seed, with additional payments available. Despite not needing to spray or fertilize the crops, the government will still give £2,500 for the next 3 years.

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We were offered £2,500 to join a scheme for 3 years without supplying anything. By planting specific crops for birds and bees, we can avoid buying expensive fertilizers. The government pays us £440 per acre, allowing us to leave the crops to rot in the ground. This saves us from spraying, fertilizing, or harvesting. It's a great deal that many are taking advantage of.

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Speaker 0 reflects on how they would explain to their kids what being a parent was like when they were kids. They suggest that, if spoken aloud, the situation seems crazy: the government was out of control, they claim the government had “literally poisoned everything” and were sending all of their money to other countries. They describe a contrast: they could not pay bills while other countries needed their money. They claim food and water were poisoned, leading them to start buying food from local farmers, and they note they didn’t eat a lot of fruits and vegetables because the quality was so bad due to the government’s poisoning. They assert that the medical industry was “basically the mafia,” claiming it was the number one killer of people in America, and they state that you couldn’t say anything about it because, as they put it, it was “literally the mafia.” They then recount that they did many things to ensure their children could keep their fertility as they aged. The speaker concludes by saying that these efforts are why they are farmers now, and they invite questions from their kids.

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The speaker states the government is giving them £2,500 for the next 3 years to join a scheme where they don't supply anything. They can plant spring barley and receive £440 per acre, then leave it to rot, yielding no straw or grain. Alternatively, they can plant mixes for birds and bees or wild bird seed. The speaker can get paid to scatter wild bird seed. The speaker's accountant advises participation, despite fertilizer costs increasing from £250 to £1,000 per ton due to the Ukraine war. The speaker describes a scenario where they don't spray or fertilize a crop, leaving it in the ground to rot, yet still receive £440 per acre, plus £2,500 from the government for 3 years.

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., your HHS secretary, is with Steve Jarvis, a fifth-generation regenerative farmer. "When he grew up, it wasn't called regenerative farming. It was called farming." On 40 acres, they can produce 500,000 pounds of food if they farm this way. "You could see these potato fields go on forever." "The small family farm can produce so much food and good food." "We're losing the health of our kids." "We need to start giving them healthy food that's locally grown and we need to start transitioning away from destructive agriculture that's destroying the soil and start embracing some of the older models and some of the new innovations that we're seeing regenerative agriculture and Steve is a model for that." Thank you. Produced by the US Department of Health and Human Services.

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"In this episode, I sit down with farmer Joel Salatin. He and his family owned Polyphase Farms, and he's the author of 17 books including Everything I Want to Do is Illegal, War Stories from the Local Food Front." "You notice there's no flies, there's no smell. These are unvaccinated, unmedicated, no pharmaceuticals, none of that." "You can't have a porta potty, so now you're at $50,000 to put in a certified septic system in order to have a kitchen that passes compliance." "Salatin believes that what America desperately needs is a food emancipation proclamation." "Which basically says, you and I can engage in a food transaction without the government's permission." "In my lifetime, I have watched this erosion of farmer access to retail dollars." "The question is, is it all gonna go to Vanguard, BlackRock, Bill Gates, the Chinese?"

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I'm John Rosenow, a fifth-generation farmer in Womondie, Wisconsin. I own over 900 acres and 600 dairy cows. It takes about one person for every 40-45 cows, and about 90% of that work is done by immigrants like Kevin, who came from Central Mexico. Kevin works long hours for better pay than he'd get back home, supporting his family. Many undocumented workers, over half the dairy industry, work for less than Americans would accept. If I hired Americans, I'd have to pay around $100,000 a year per person for only 40-50 hours a week. I'd be out of business in six months unless milk cost $10 a gallon. If the new administration deports all the undocumented workers, I'm out of business quickly. Kevin isn't too worried; he's heard deportation threats before and hasn't felt fear lately.

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In the future, we'll have to explain to our kids what it was like being parents. It was pretty crazy. The government was out of control, poisoning everything and sending our money to other countries. We struggled to pay our bills and had to buy food from local farmers because the quality was so bad. The medical industry was like the mafia, killing people but we couldn't speak out. We did a lot to preserve your fertility. That's why we became farmers.

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Story: they say 'organic food was just food,' 'grass fed beef was just beef,' and 'raw milk was just milk.' Farmers seeking real healthy food were 'forced to use government issued pesticides and chemicals.' They describe schemes where farmers were 'paid to not grow food,' told to plant wildflowers and scatter bird seed, raising prices as fertilizer costs rose. '£500,000,000' was taken away from farmers and handed to farmers abroad. They blame a 'climate crisis' and say 'cow's farts' are the problem. They claim 'world's largest landowners' push for us to eat bugs and lab grown foods, 'to wipe out the farming industry piece by piece.' 'No farmers means no real food.' Support local farmers: buy from farm shops, grass-fed meats, unhomogenized milk, and real free range eggs.

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Joe Rogan Experience #760 - Doug Duren & Nathan Ihde
Guests: Doug Duren, Nathan Ihde
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Doug Duren and Nathan Ihde join the podcast to discuss various topics related to farming, hunting, and the differences between organic and conventional meat. A recent study from Newcastle University reveals that organic meat and milk contain about 50% more beneficial omega-3 fatty acids than their conventional counterparts, challenging the skepticism surrounding grass-fed and organic products. Doug shares his experiences with cattle, emphasizing the importance of feeding cows their natural diet of grass rather than corn or soybeans, which can negatively impact their health and the quality of the meat. The conversation shifts to the evolution of farming practices, highlighting the shift from small family farms to large-scale factory farming, which Doug attributes to policies from the Nixon administration aimed at increasing agricultural efficiency. This transition has led to a decline in small farms and raised concerns about the environmental impact of large operations, including issues related to waste management and animal welfare. Doug discusses his current herd of Herefords and the differences between cattle breeds, explaining how certain breeds are more efficient in weight gain or milk production. The discussion touches on the economic pressures faced by farmers, with Doug recalling how milk prices have plummeted over the decades, making it difficult for family farms to survive. The podcast also addresses the disconnect urban dwellers have with food production, emphasizing the importance of knowing where food comes from and the reverence required in raising and processing animals for meat. Doug encourages listeners to connect with local farmers and understand the processes involved in meat production. The conversation further explores the ethical implications of hunting and farming, with Doug expressing frustration over factory farming practices and the lack of respect for animals in large operations. He contrasts this with his own practices, which focus on sustainable farming and animal welfare. As the discussion progresses, they delve into the complexities of wildlife management, including the challenges posed by overpopulation of deer and the necessity of hunting to maintain ecological balance. Doug shares anecdotes about hunting experiences and the camaraderie that comes with it, while also addressing the ethical considerations of hunting methods and the impact of human activity on wildlife. The podcast concludes with a reflection on the importance of sustainable practices in agriculture and hunting, advocating for a balanced approach to food production that respects both animals and the environment. Doug emphasizes the need for education and awareness in addressing the challenges of modern farming and wildlife management, encouraging listeners to engage in meaningful conversations about these issues.
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