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Not always. I just noticed that around some of these exchanges, there's ellipses above them. It looks like they're cherry picking certain exchanges. So that 'My dad is super MAGA' just comes out of nowhere because they picked it from a totally different part of the conversation. These messages are clearly doctored is what I would say. They're doctored. Tyler's being corp you know, forthcoming. We're protecting him in some capacity. I find that to be unacceptable. K? Unacceptable. I want every single text message. I want time stamps. It is conspicuous that you are not telling us when this was sent because it sounds like it's when the campus is on lockdown, and he's gotta go back and gotta clean up. And then the next day when his dad is getting clued in after the picture's been released. They're not telling us that. Okay? We need full answers.

- "earliest it was 12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots." - "The metadata begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot." - "I saw the shots. I had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out." - "this person looked to him like a foreign agent." - "this person was dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask." - "this is the wrong person. I observed this person with my eyes. You have the complete wrong description." - "the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw, that the gun that he saw was smaller."

"And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on, we lost something important in America today. But, the case goes on. The investigation goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter. They have a couple hot leads. There's a little bit of foreign intelligence. And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more, and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today. Yeah. I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest. That's the latest I heard from law That's correct. Law enforcement. You're hearing the same thing."

The speaker discusses Erica Kirk and a sequence of variant names connected to her. They begin by asserting familiarity with Erica Kirk and then pivot to a narrative about Erica Fransve (her birth name) and Erica Kirk (the name after marrying Charlie in 2020). The central question posed is: who is Erica Chelsvig? Key claims and sequence: - Erica Fransveig was her maiden name; Erica Kirk was her name after marrying Charlie in 2020; Erica Chelsvig is described as a name she supposedly bore at another point in time. - The speaker asserts they learned the name Erica Chelsvig only two days after Charlie Kirk’s funeral, after being awakened at 02:30 in the morning. - They claim to have been a large Erica Kirk fan prior to this discovery, and that the “truth” about Erica Chelsvig had emerged suddenly and unexpectedly. - The speaker alleges that information about Erica Chelsvig has “officially scrubbed from the Internet” the very next day, and that only the speaker’s aunt managed to discover and retain it. - They state that, despite being on vacation, the world will learn who Erica Chelsvig is, but not via a Google search. - The speaker asks, “So who is Erica Chelsvig auntie?” and then outlines a backstory: Erica Fransveig (maiden name); Erica Kirk (name after marriage); Erica Chelsvig (name in between, or at another point). - They note that the Chelsvig name is Romanian and remark on the odds of that, calling the world an evil place and suggesting not everything is what it seems. - The speaker claims that Erica Kirk, Gronzevay, Chelsbank, formerly, is “accidentally spilling the beans one by one,” and asserts that what is done in the dark will come to light. - They emphasize their belief that the truth is true when it needs to be scrubbed from the Internet, and question why it would be scrubbed if there wasn’t something to hide. - A further variation is mentioned: “Erica Kerr, formerly Chelsvig,” and with it, a prompt to “screenshot and read the rest” while on vacation. - The speaker reiterates that “what used to be on the Internet” was removed days after Charlie’s funeral, and that when the holy spirit speaks, you listen and you screenshot, and the truth will always come to life.

Candace ain't lying, guys. I know it for a fact. None of us really know. 'they're literally telling us to look at the wall that is purple and say and we say it's purple and they say, no. No. No. Look closer. It's it's yellow.' 'How do we best honor Charlie's death and legacy than figuring out who the hell killed him and why and how?' 'There is absolutely something going on in that organization. There was something going on prior to his assassination. There's absolutely something going on right now, and they do not want us to know.' 'This is a real source. This is a real text message.' 'We fight to figure out what the hell it is they don't want us to know.' I hope that helps.

"And just last night, the suspect was taken into custody at 10PM local time in less than thirty six hours, 30 three to be precise." "For thirty three hours, I was I was praying that that if this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be one of us." "This thing is not commercial at all. It is most likely a surveillance drone and someone was flying it over the campus for a particular reason." "The main suspect in Kirk's killing is now Tyler Robinson and he is in custody." "This translates to approximately one in 2,000,000,000." "The FBI agents didn't even bother to show him the photos of the shooter for twelve hours." "Yes. Yes. So when he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on," "Look folks, it's very easy to just believe whatever we're being told, but we cannot afford to do that anymore."

"It's not my driveway. It's my aunt's driveway." "I parked there probably ten minutes before he walked by." "I had not seen this footage till just now." "This is his Ring camera." "the killer walked down that street nineteen minutes after you were there." "I believe it was 02:30 local time." "We got there probably about 01:45." "National Guard was going up and down the street." "there's maybe another suspect." "no information to suggest there's another suspect." "the first two that they arrested were released." "So I'm not suggesting there were two. I'm suggesting that the one that we thought was the one they had in custody was then released, and then the second one was released." "FBI was swarming that street when you went back to this location two hours later."

And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on to, we lost something important in America today. But, the case goes on. The investigation goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter. They have a couple hot leads. There's a little bit of foreign intelligence. And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today. Yeah. I hope so. I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest. That's the latest I heard from law That's correct. Law enforcement. You're hearing the same thing.

"Candace ain't lying, guys. I know it for a fact." "We all know that these narratives they're spinning out that they're putting out don't make any sense. They don't make any sense at all." "We don't know who killed him, why it was done, or how it was done." "None of us really know." "If you're actually believing what these people are telling us, you're cooked." "No. No. No. Look closer. It's it's yellow. What are you talking about?" "How do we best honor Charlie's death and legacy than figuring out who the hell killed him and why and how?" "There is absolutely something going on in that organization." "There was something going on prior to his assassination." "There's absolutely something going on right now, and they do not want us to know." "We fight to figure out what the hell it is they don't want us to know."

The speaker explains that in the three months since Charlie Kirk’s murder, they have largely refrained from commenting publicly on the investigation. They say this is not due to lack of care or affection for Charlie, whom they knew well since his teenage years, but because they feel they don’t know more than others and want to avoid missteps given their personal connections to those involved. They name Candace Owens, Blake Neff, and Erica Kirk as people they know well and respect, and emphasize a desire to honor Charlie’s memory by seeking justice without criticizing others’ motives when people are sincerely pursuing the truth. They recount a three-hour conversation with Theo Vaughan during which the topic of Charlie Kirk’s case arose. They state they told Vaughan they do not trust the FBI, clarifying that this statement was not an accusation that the FBI is involved in Charlie’s assassination, and they did not intend to imply such. They acknowledge they like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel and do not believe they would intentionally cover up a murder, but they argue that the FBI, being at the top of the organization, is part of a large bureaucracy where some parts act independently from leadership. Therefore, liking individuals within the organization does not equate to trusting the FBI as a whole. The speaker asserts that, as a lesson of the 2024 election, many of the nation’s largest systems and institutions have rot and require reform. They contend that January 6 was a setup and that the FBI was key to that setup, stating it remains unclear whether everyone involved has been fired or punished. They insist that no American is under moral obligation to believe everything the government tells them, especially institutions with a documented history of wrongdoing, such as the FBI’s alleged crimes, manufacturing crimes, and distorting justice. They emphasize that the job of the FBI is to find out what happened, tell the public how they arrived at conclusions, and convince the public of the outcomes, rather than hiding behind national security or confidential sources. The speaker concludes by committing to avoid talking about topics they do not understand, to state things only as they know them, and to remain skeptical. They stress a duty to skepticism and to seek truth and justice without being swayed by tone or certainty from government officials. They reiterate love for Charlie and a wish for justice, while urging others to maintain scrutiny toward the investigation.

And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on, we lost something important in America today. But, the case goes on. The investigation goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter. They have a couple hot leads. There's a little bit of foreign intelligence. And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more, and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today. Yeah. I hope so. I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest. That's the latest I heard from law That's correct. Law enforcement. You're hearing the same thing.

Something's wrong. I know I shouldn't do this. I'm risking an awful lot to go up against this FBI, the MAGA FBI. There was no rifle in his hand. It is not easy to remove a Mauser barrel or index it after reinstalling and remain accurate. The photo of the rifle allegedly left in the woods has the barrel installed. So we're supposed to believe a guy is on the run after killing Charlie Kirk and he pauses in the woods to reinstall a barrel. I don't believe a word of it. I can't take the bullshit from this fucking government. It's lying to us. Something's wrong with this whole fucking picture. Sean Hannity immediately, that pimp scumbag goes on the air and repeats the government lie that lousy son of a bitch. I don't buy one word of this narrative, not one single word.

Three people told me off record. Two have this in a written communication from Charlie. One, who was a Turning Point USA donor. The very day before Charlie Kirk died, he expressed that he thought he was going to be killed. He told these people, "I think they're going to kill me." He had not expressed that to me. So I am telling you this based off the testimony of three people. I hope those people come forward with that. Those conversations were off record; I honor that. But I am hoping that they will tell us who was they—Who is the they that he thought were going to kill him?

So you know the kid who was asking Charlie Kirk a question when Charlie got shot? Remember him? Everyone's feeling bad for him? Yeah. There's video footage of him practicing his reaction before it happened. So when Charlie got shot, you know, his reaction was to put his hands on his head, look shocked, shake a little bit. Yeah. He was doing that. He was practicing that in the crowd, and here's the freaking video. How are you gonna deny what you just saw there? How? And you already know what question, you know, he was asking Charlie. Right? Remember that? This just confirms what a lot of us have been thinking and what we all think actually happened. Sick.

"there's a man in custody." "I've really tried not to publicly speculate or say anything that I can't prove." "the guy's in custody." "If the FBI and the authorities in Utah, end this investigation by declaring Tyler Robinson a lone gunman with no accomplices whatsoever, without having done, you know, a truly exhaustive investigation, that will not be adequate." "I hate even to say that that could happen because, you know, it's my country, my government, I wanna trust the FBI, there's no reason to trust the FBI at all. At all." "how a guy who was by all appearances pretty normal kid, wound up murdering a stranger just a couple years later. Like he was radicalized." "Everything that you think about the FBI undersells it. It's, and I'm quoting, 10 times worse than you think internally." "I'm gonna need proof."

"Charlie Kirk's assassination has deleted evidence that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson haven't mentioned once." "This guy told the cops to arrest him so the shooter could have more time to get away." "This guy was deployed for 09/11, deployed against Obama, for George Bush, and personally worked with senators and US congressmen." "And he personally admitted it, and they wiped everything, but I downloaded it just before. George Zinn," "These donors like Manafort, Berman, Ronald Weiser, they manipulate elections, create countries, and have personally admitted to taking money from all of these countries." "Zinn, the patsy, is an example of an actor they use." "I have a full twenty seven minute video going over exactly what happened, why people like Candace Owens might be lying to you, and the archive podcast link in bio."

There's a man in custody. I've really tried not to publicly speculate or say anything that I can't prove. I love Charlie and I well, I talked to his wife this morning. I love his wife, Erica. The guy's in custody, it's a very weird story. They're gonna need to do a real investigation, and I'll just say, if the FBI and the authorities in Utah end this investigation by declaring Tyler Robinson a lone gunman with no accomplices whatsoever, without having done, you know, a truly exhaustive investigation, you know, sort of like the one they did into January 6, that will not be adequate. They will risk further fracturing The United States along the lines of people who believe the story or wanna believe the story. I hate even to say that that could happen because, you know, it's my country, my government, I wanna trust the FBI, there's no reason to trust the FBI at all. At all. The institution of the FBI, no one's really been fired from FBI by the way. Everything that you think about the FBI undersells it. It's, and I'm quoting, 10 times worse than you think internally. Tell me what happened. How a guy who was by all appearances pretty normal kid wound up murdering a stranger just a couple years later. Like he was radicalized. If it turns out the FBI is not doing an adequate investigation, we should demand it.

The speaker explains that in the three months since Charlie Kirk was murdered, they have avoided public commentary on the murder investigation out of care for Charlie and respect for the people involved, many of whom they know personally and admire. They emphasize that their goal is truth and justice, and they would not criticize anyone sincerely trying to uncover what happened, recognizing that good motives can lead to wrong conclusions. They recount a three-hour conversation with Theo Vaughan that touched on distrust of the FBI. They clarify this did not mean they accused anyone of involvement in Charlie Kirk’s murder, but it gave them the chance to state that they do not trust the FBI. They distinguish personal trust in individuals (e.g., Dan Bongino, whom they like, and Cash Patel) from trust in the FBI as an institution, noting that parts of the FBI can act independently within a large bureaucracy, separate from leadership. The speaker argues that distrust is not about a general attack on political leadership but about systemic issues. They reference the 2024 election as evidence that major institutions may be corrupt or rot, and they point to January 6 as, in their view, a setup in which the FBI played a key role. They question whether everyone involved in that setup has faced consequences. They insist that no American is morally obligated to believe everything the government says, especially given a history of the FBI's alleged crimes, illicit participation in politics, manufacturing crimes, or distorting justice—claims they assert as part of the FBI’s track record, which, in their view, is counter to its mission to obtain justice through facts and then explain its conclusions. They argue that it is not enough to have government officials declare the truth; the public has the right or obligation to demand proof. A central concern is that the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s murder could be overshadowed by debates about what happened, allowing the FBI to go unchallenged or unaccountable. The speaker asserts that the FBI should tell, show, and convince the public about what happened, rather than hiding behind national security or confidential sources. Ultimately, they commit to avoiding statements they don’t understand, to staying out of the case, but to maintaining love for Charlie and a desire for justice, while urging others to remain skeptical. They conclude that skepticism is a duty and not something to be ashamed of.

- "And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on to, we lost something important in America today." - "But, the case goes on." - "The investigation goes on." - "There's a lot of piecing of evidence together." - "We don't have a shooter tonight." - "We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter." - "They have a couple hot leads." - "There's a little bit of foreign intelligence." - "And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today." - "I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest." - "That's the latest I heard from law" - "That's correct." - "Law enforcement." - "You're hearing the same thing."

There is reason for people to believe that this is a professional hit job. John Salmon is an excellent reporter, and Steven Crowder has some leaked information. I want to talk about both. I want to begin by saying that I'm very, very close with Charlie and his team, and here is the thing that I wish to relay to you from them: that there is some considerable evidence that there were state actors involved here. That's it. I don't want to go any further than that. I can't go any further than that. That is all I've that is what I've been told. It is not like this is exclusive to me necessarily. John Solomon said it last night on Sean Hannity's show. Here we go. There's a sense that we all lost something important in America today, but the case goes on. The investigation goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple leads, a couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter. They have a couple hot leads. There's a little bit of foreign intelligence. And over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more, and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today.

I was about 10 feet to Charlie's left when it happened. It was one of those moments that will crystallize in your mind forever. You hear the pop, and it’s not completely clear what it is at first. I looked to my right and immediately saw what had happened. It was just one shot. The security got him immediately, got him into the car immediately, and then out again. They could not have done their job any better. Then, what do we do? I sent a message on Telegram to Turning Point, telling them to lockdown. I imagined they’d already seen it, but I said, lockdown Turning Point. I called my mom and said, I can’t say more, but mom, Charlie got shot. I love you. I have to go. Then I met with other team members, and we got to the hospital within about twenty-five minutes, and the rest of the day unfolded from there. Staff decided to address this head on because there’s so much intrigue, and I’m going to do a generous thing. The intrigue is because people care about Charlie. Blake, you were there and you interacted with Mikey. You left the scene and then reconnected with Mikey. So, explain what the video is. The video is by someone who attacked Mikey, Charlie’s friend, Charlie’s chief of staff, a guy we’ve seen on the show the last few weeks. They claim, based on a few seconds of clips, that he allegedly has a nonchalant or calm reaction to Charlie’s murder. This is an extremely disgusting attack. I was there when it happened and I was next to Mikey when it happened. When the shooting occurs, we both hear a loud crack and turn to see Charlie who has been shot. We both realize there is a shooter on the scene. We hear the crack and don’t know if it came from far or close, or if a mass shooting is unfolding. My reaction, and Mikey’s, was to get out of there before we were both shot. That is not us abandoning Charlie. Charlie had a security team; they leapt into action and got Charlie out, which was their job. My job was not to be a hero or get in the way. I remember running past the SUV we came in on, thinking, should I get in that car? Then I thought that would be stupid, and I kept going. I was ahead of Mikey as we left. We got out and ran for more than fifteen or twenty seconds. I paused, looked around, and saw Mikey. I will never forget what I saw. Mikey is usually bubbly and happy, but he was profoundly freaked out. His lip was quivering, something I’d never seen from him. He said, I think he literally said, he needs to call Erica, then he calls Erica. He also calls his dad, Rob McCoy, and says, Dad, someone shot Charlie. You need to call all of your pastor friends. We then gathered to direct actions: to get to the hospital and to relay information to Erica. After the call, Mikey regained control and stepped up, directing a battle-like flow: get to the hospital, wait here, and get information to Erica.

- I recognized an individual and 'have taken down the cameras minute four after Charlie was shot? The back camera of all the ones when you take the front camera.' - 'I've never seen that. He's never been behind me at an event. He's never been lingering around me at an event.' - I asked about 'his presence behind Charlie' and 'the mysterious phone call ... minute three after Charlie was assassinated.' - He told me explicitly that 'they were trying something new that day. Like, it was something new. Charlie's super ambitious. And on the AV thing, they were trying something new, and they wanted to be able to feed it back instantly to Arizona.' - 'None of it makes sense to me because these events are typically livestreamed. But again, something new. Okay?'

"I thought the feds were saying they were looking for a bullet at some point, which is now very alarming to me. I don't understand that. How could they have been looking for a bullet? Because if I'm not seeing, and there isn't. I'm telling you, what happens in the front is not what happens in the back at all." "If I'm not seeing any blood, what what are we to take from that? The only thing that could make sense if what they're saying is true and that person took the shot from the place that they are saying that individual took the shot from, it would suggest that it it's a it it was inside of Charlie. Right? And they would know that. The feds would have known that." "So they would have communicated that they were never looking for a bullet."

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 address a group text shared by Kent Owens; the text grab is authentic and, though private, was released to show public frustrations and pursue justice for Charlie. They say they wanted no stone unturned in the first 33 hours of the investigation. As Turning Point USA spokesman, they caution that public statements could affect an ongoing case. Charlie's Israel views are described as nuanced and public: he cared about Israel, read a 700-page history, wanted the Gaza war to end, did not want American troops or Palestinian refugees, saw Hamas as the aggressor, and noted antisemitism rising. A Megyn Kelly clip is cited: "I love Israel. I want Israel to win." Charlie remained defiant, refusing to be cowed into deplatforming Tucker, upholding "free speech be our north star."

During the segment, the speakers address a private text exchange released by Kent Owens. They confirm the screen grab is authentic but say it was private; it was shared with a few government officials because rapid events followed the incident. They note that authorities identified a suspect within 33 hours and emphasize “no stone unturned” in pursuit of justice for Charlie. One speaker, an eyewitness, says they avoid public comments to not affect a trial. They affirm free speech as a guiding principle and defend Charlie's public stance on Israel as nuanced but consistent. Charlie wrestled with Israel for months; he read about the conflict and warned against anti-Israel sentiment online. He believed Hamas started the war and could end it; Israel represented European civilization, Hamas Middle Eastern barbarism. He loved and cared about Israel.