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Speaker 0 asks why Speaker 1 doesn't feel safe in the US, to which Speaker 1 responds that they believe there will soon be a wave of forced vaccinations disguised as voluntary ones. Speaker 1 mentions that the World Health Organization has been working on vaccines that cause permanent sterility and that illegally approved vaccines contain a substance called squalene. Speaker 2 explains that squalene is used to make vaccines more immunogenic but can also cause adverse reactions. Speaker 1 claims that the US government wants to provoke a pandemic using a live attenuated virus. The conversation ends abruptly.

Speaker 1 claims that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They assert that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 states this is not just their opinion, but can be verified by anyone who examines the FDA website, specifically the package inserts and underlying clinical trial documents.

The speaker claims that the evidence around vaccines and autism in the U.S. consists of two flawed and fraudulent CDC studies. One study allegedly showed a statistically significant effect of the MMR vaccine, with 67% more boys receiving the vaccine on time being diagnosed with autism compared to those who waited until age three. The speaker says a whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, came forward with this information in 2013 and 2014. The speaker also alleges that the Verstraten study in 2003 is flawed and fraudulent, accusing them of cherry-picking information from the Vaccine Safety Datalink. The speaker asserts there is a significant gap in the science around vaccines and autism, stating that safety cannot be determined by looking at one vaccine or component in isolation.

The speaker claims to have witnessed a humanitarian catastrophe with millions of deaths worldwide due to vaccines. In their private practice, they've seen almost 1500 patients, previously healthy, now disabled and suffering years later, believing they are addressing the greatest unmet need in the country: care for the vaccine-injured. The speaker believes the government has been fully captured by corporations and industrial complexes. They allege that agencies like the CDC, FDA, NIH, and EPA, along with big food, are polluting air, water, and medicines. They also claim the government is allowing immigrants in, surveilling and censoring citizens, and stripping away rights, with most of the country unaware. The speaker states their goal is to educate people about this and "rescue the republic."

Speaker asserts that "the state, however you define that, the military, CDC, Tony Fauci, Ralph Barack at the University of North Carolina created a weaponized virus. Correct? Gain of function research. They contracted it out to China, and it caused a pandemic around the world once it was released. The government created a weaponized virus that then got out and caused a global pandemic." They ask, "When are we gonna have accountability for that?" They seek accountability for "the COVID era," and for "the CDC has known since 1999 that vaccines cause autism, and they've covered it up for twenty six years." They ask, "How do we begin to have accountability?" and conclude, "You want to call it something different? Truth Commissions, criminal trials? You're I would love to comparing"

People are finally starting to see the evidence against vaccines, with new studies linking boosters to cancer. Most MPs are still supporting vaccines, but only to save face until after the upcoming election. The speaker believes the vaccine rollout is a crime against humanity, with potentially millions of deaths worldwide.

Speaker 0 frames the issue as 'the corruption of science' and the 'capture of the agencies' by pharmaceutical industries, stating the goal is to restore integrity and credibility to science. Speaker 1 cites a CDC internal study: 'black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two hundred and sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited.' He adds that 'The chief chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior said vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact.' Finally, he asserts, 'So, you know that story. And you know of hundreds of stories like that. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies, and we're gonna change that right now.'

The discussion centers on the credibility of vaccine safety claims made by various health organizations and the FDA. One speaker argues that vaccines undergo rigorous testing, while the other contends that no vaccine has ever completed a long-term placebo-controlled trial before being licensed. They express distrust in the FDA, citing past issues with drugs like Vioxx and opioids, suggesting that the FDA misled doctors and the public about their safety. The speaker believes that pharmaceutical companies influence these agencies, leading to misinformation about vaccine safety. The goal is to address and rectify this perceived corruption.

Speaker 0 describes a theory they’re exploring: every vaccine examined, and the patents and testimony from the Department of Energy, point to a 500,000-strong collection of bioweapons categories, including plague, HIV, anthrax. They claim all these bacteria and yeasts have been mutated and converted into a “hybrid gamma irradiated” form, advanced and radioactive, and that these are entering humanity. They say, regarding a nuclear stockpile, humanity itself becomes the host of these radioactive materials, since they are digital and can be activated to detonate a mass casualty event. Speaker 1 clarifies by restating the concern: they can create a pandemic at any moment by activating materials that have infiltrated our bodies. Speaker 0 adds that they have become involved in helping families legally; their law firm supports families because some school districts have become worse than during COVID, even though childhood vaccines are still largely recommended federally. They claim school districts and scientists are desperate to get these materials into children, with Catholic schools allegedly no longer honoring religious or medical exemptions. They describe children with severe reactions and contraindications being denied entry to schools, faced with truancy threats or expulsion. They insist there is nothing healing about these vaccines and call it an infiltration system necessary for AI to function properly. Speaker 1 mentions the U.S. allegedly cutting ties with the WHO, but says research by John Fleetwood shows the U.S. maintains relationships relating to vaccines and influenza, with substantial taxpayer funding. They assert that with a digital ID, one’s bank account can be cut off if they don’t get certain vaccines or comply to maintain the digital ID, arguing the agenda has continued and accelerated with AI. Speaker 0 adds that the WHO remains a standing organization but has been rebranded, and emphasizes that the United States is front and center in partnerships with the WHO. Speaker 1 introduces Biomems (biomedical microelectromechanical systems) as a subset of MEMS used in biomedical research and medical devices, noting that this has existed for years. They describe sensors under the skin that transmit data to pharmaceuticals or governments, not just pacemakers. They reference Albert Bourla, who stated that a pill has been designed to track compliance. Speaker 0 confirms: “They tell us what they're doing.”

The transcript alleges that multiple senior FDA officials, not just Peter Marks, are “complicit.” It claims American people believed these officials, and that each day the officials lie “compounding the lie day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year.” It says this makes honesty “less likely” over time. The speaker then references a member of Congress who “cut videos” tied to “the jab,” arguing the videos would “end the pandemic.” The transcript asserts that the advocacy for the injections “killed people” and “permanently disabled them,” adding that doctors, federal health officials, and Stephen Colbert “wouldn’t want to do that.” The speaker describes what they call a “global state of denial,” saying other governments relied on federal health officials and “forced it down there,” with administration mandates requiring the injections “in complete violation” of the Nuremberg Code, which the speaker frames as prohibiting forcing medical treatment. The transcript claims that people died as a result. It contrasts political claims about the pandemic, saying Biden blamed “the pandemic of the unvaccinated” while “losing patients,” and then asserting, “Now we’re losing patients too.” The speaker says the central issue is that “your injection didn’t stop transmission” and that “your injection killed people” and “permanently disabled people.”

The speaker argues that looking up “FDA licensed vaccines” and reviewing “6.1” in vaccine inserts on the FDA website shows that placebo trials “never” occurred, including for childhood vaccines. The speaker claims that these placebo trial details are contained in insert text that was “wrapped around a vaccine” but allegedly not shown to people due to lack of “informed consent,” and that experts may cite studies that the speaker says did not exist. The speaker further alleges that Tony Fauci lied about “six foot distancing,” and that “everyone at the CDC and the regulatory agencies” lied. The speaker also claims that Robert Kennedy Jr. stated that COVID vaccine efficacy claims about stopping transmission were lied about, referencing Rachel Maddow’s claim that if you take the vaccine “it stops with you,” and the speaker asserts “the virus stops with you bull crap” and “it does. And you heard that here,” followed by a claim that it “does not” based on what “we know.” The speaker says that FDA “has already admitted” these points and emphasizes a call to “start asking people to show their work” and to “see the evidence,” saying “Do not trust experts any longer” because “we’ve been lied to long enough.” The speaker expresses hope that a documentary will not be the last made and claims they do interviews by giving their opinions directly and not worrying about being edited “to make me look crazy,” arguing that audiences will decide for themselves. The speaker then discusses the “vaxxed versus unvaxxed” study, saying they worked to build a relationship with someone who wanted to “prove me wrong.” The speaker claims they took a risk and promised to trust whatever the study shows if it is published, and asserts that the study results will show “how bad it is when you do this study the right way.” The speaker claims the CDC has “done this study a thousand times” trying to prove vaccinated people are healthier and that it “can’t” be done, and that doing it “the right way” will reveal worse outcomes. Finally, the speaker frames the “inconvenient” study as inconvenient for panels, for the pharmaceutical industry that allegedly owns television stations, and for CDC and HHS leadership, concluding that they “aren’t going to take it anymore” and claiming “evidence like they have never, ever had before.”

Speaker 0: It was January 2022 when a colleague of mine in the unit came to me saying, something's up. We've had a doubling or tripling of baby deaths in the last year. And that's what got my curiosity piqued. Speaker 1: Their own government told us a medical treatment was safe, and it killed babies. Speaker 2: I have lost all faith that Health Canada is looking out genuine for the best interests of Canadians. Speaker 3: Doctors made extra money to push vaccines and they were given a billing code to do it. I have pulled all the billing codes. Speaker 2: They've purchased the vaccine that hasn't been approved. They've distributed it to the province so the second it's approved, we can start jabbing ourselves with it. We can start jabbing pregnant mothers with it. Speaker 4: Why did we have to get these vaccinations? Like, why was this something that we had to do? You go to the hospital, you expect to have a baby, and you expect to go home, And then you don't. Speaker 0: I was suspect that there was criminal negligence on part of the government and the public health officials. Possible. They pushed on with this narrative to everybody, including pregnant and breastfeeding women, that the mRNA shots were safe and effective. Speaker 2: They had wiretapped her phone. They had harassed her. They had charged her. They didn't allow any expert witnesses to testify. Speaker 1: Our Canadian babies died, and the police are trying to cover it up to the point of stopping detective Helen Greaves from testifying about it. Speaker 2: The dominant individuals keep the subordinates in their place by constant aggression. Speaker 4: If you don't want to get vaccinated, that's your choice. But don't think you can get on a plane or a train besides vaccinated people and put them at risk. Speaker 2: It started off with CBC running a story to implicate her and to paint her with a brush that looks uncomplimentary to the public. Speaker 5: Canada has to shift their understanding of what the CBC is. It is a state broadcaster pushing the agenda of the Liberal government of Canada. Speaker 2: This is the most significant matter affecting our children today from a health perspective, and they're still not investigating. Everything emanates outward from this case involving law enforcement, the judicial system, the pharmaceutical industry, our health agencies, how they work together, how they censored information. It all ties together to this one case, and that's what makes it so dangerous.

The speakers claim that well-funded entities suppressed the truth about autism. They state that parents of autistic children who have tried to investigate the causes of autism have encountered intense resistance. They allege that studies used to support the claim that vaccines don't cause autism are easily disproven, but the media's ownership allows the lie to spread faster than the truth. One speaker believes that many find it too difficult to accept that vaccines could cause autism. They mention someone who suspects a vaccine caused their child's autism but still shamed others for not taking the COVID vaccine, illustrating the power of propaganda. People are afraid of social ostracization and are hesitant to speak their minds, often only whispering their true feelings to close friends. The speakers reference montages showing the horrible things people said about unvaccinated individuals.

Speaker 0 describes a study on the hepatitis B vaccine, stating it is loaded with mercury during the first thirty days of life and comparing infants who received it in that period to those who did not or who received it later. He claims that the relative risk of smoking a pack a day for twenty years leading to lung cancer is ten, with a figure of 11.35, and attributes this to Thimerosal. Speaker 1 asks if the claim is about Thimerosal, and Speaker 0 confirms, then recounts a story that motivated his involvement: a “secret meeting” held to avoid on-campus exposure to freedom of information requests. The meeting occurred at Simpson Wood, a remote Methodist retreat center on the Chattahoochee River in Norcross, Georgia. Over two days, 52 attendees included major vaccine companies, regulatory agencies (WHO, CDC, FDA, NIH, HHS), and leaders in academic vaccinology. Megan recorded the first day, and Speaker 0 says he obtained the transcripts in 2005, calling them horrific. He invites listeners to read them on the Children’s Health Events site to judge for themselves, arguing the transcripts reveal “panjarums of the American healthcare system” and that regulators claimed the science was bulletproof while suggesting vaccines cause autism. Speaker 1 notes that Speaker 0 has previously claimed the conference revealed that vaccines cause autism and that data should be buried, referencing a January 2011 Rolling Stone article and a Salon piece that later withdrew the article. He mentions an eighteen-month US Senate committee investigation that found allegations of CDC misconduct unsubstantiated and concluded there was no cover-up. Speaker 0 clarifies it was a two-year committee hearing led by Senator Burton at the Governmental Oversight Committee, and asserts that vaccines do cause autism, while encouraging listeners to research the science themselves rather than trust him or the organizations cited. Speaker 0 then attacks the credibility and funding of CDC, NIH, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, claiming they are “bought and paid for,” with statistics he cites: FDA is funded 45% by the pharmaceutical industry; the AAP allegedly gets 80% of its money from industry; and the CDC spends 4,900,000,000 of its 12,000,000,000 annual budget. Speaker 1 pushes back by noting that parents within these organizations vaccinate their own children against vaccines that include thimerosal, asking rhetorically whether they are willingly harming their children, and suggesting a broader government conspiracy. Speaker 0 then directs Speaker 1 to the movie Dopesick for further context, contrasting it with opioid prescriptions, and asserts that doctors treated patients and their own children with opioids because they believed FDA guidance. Overall, the dialogue centers on thimerosal in early vaccines, alleged hidden meetings and data suppression, controversial media coverage of vaccines-autism links, and critical claims about regulatory agency funding and conduct, culminating in comparisons to pharmaceutical and medical industry dynamics.

World governments have harmed millions without apology. The speaker believes vaccines cause autism, but mainstream media won't discuss it. They gathered data from 10,000 parents showing a link between vaccines and autism, ADHD, and other health issues. More shots lead to poorer health in children.

Speaker 0 notes a doubling or tripling of baby deaths in the last year, which sparked curiosity. Speaker 1 says their own government told them a medical treatment was safe, and it killed babies. Speaker 2 states they have lost all faith that Health Canada is looking out genuine for the best interests of Canadians. Speaker 1 says doctors made extra money to push vaccines and were given a billing code to do it, and she has pulled all the billing codes. Speaker 3 asserts they’ve purchased the vaccine that hasn’t been approved and distributed it to the provinces, so the second it’s approved they can start jabbing themselves and pregnant mothers with it. Speaker 4 asks why vaccinations were necessary, noting that when going to the hospital for birth, you expect to go home, and then you don’t. Speaker 0 suspects criminal negligence by the government and public health officials. Speaker 2 agrees, saying “Possible.” Speaker 0 contends they pushed a narrative to everybody, including pregnant and breastfeeding women, that the mRNA shots were safe and effective. Speaker 2 recalls wiretapping, harassment, and charges, and that they didn’t allow any expert witnesses to testify. Speaker 1 says Canadian babies died, and police are trying to cover it up by stopping detective Helen Graves from testifying about it. Speaker 3 comments that dominant individuals maintain subordinates’ place through constant aggression. Speaker 5 argues that choosing not to vaccinate is one thing, but being unable to fly or ride trains with vaccinated people and thus putting them at risk is another issue. Speaker 2 says CBC started with a story to implicate her and paint her in an uncomplimentary light to the public. Speaker 6 claims Canada must shift its understanding of CBC, describing it as a state broadcaster pushing the agenda of the Liberal government of Canada. Speaker 3 declares this is the most significant health matter affecting children today, and they are still not investigating. Speaker 2 asserts that everything emanates outward from this case involving law enforcement, the judicial system, the pharmaceutical industry, and health agencies, and how they work together and censored information; all of it ties to this one case, making it dangerous.

The speaker claims the Biden administration covered up science related to the COVID shot. Information related to vaccine complications was allegedly censored as COVID vaccine hesitant content. The speaker alleges the heart inflammation in young, healthy men and boys was not disclosed as soon as it should have been, resulting in thousands of kids developing myocarditis unnecessarily. The speaker suggests the administration knew the shot didn't stop transmission but kept it secret. The head of the FDA is cited as saying the Biden administration suppressed information about myocarditis damage to children. The speaker believes this sounds criminal, especially considering mandates for school, work, and travel.

In January 2022, a colleague alerted Speaker 0 that there had been a doubling or tripling of baby deaths in the last year, which sparked curiosity. Speaker 1 states that “Their own government told us a medical treatment was safe, and it killed babies.” Speaker 2 says she has “lost all faith that Health Canada is looking out genuinely for the best interests of Canadians.” Speaker 3 alleges that doctors “made extra money to push vaccines” and were given a billing code to do it, and that she has “pulled all the billing codes.” Speaker 4 asserts that “They've purchased the vaccine that hasn't been approved,” distributed it to the provinces so that once it’s approved, they can “start jabbing ourselves with it” and “start jabbing pregnant mothers with it.” Speaker 3 questions the necessity of vaccinations: “Why did we have to get these vaccinations? Like, why was this something that we had to do? You go to the hospital, you expect to have a baby, and you expect to go home, and then you don't.” Speaker 0 speculates on criminal negligence, saying, “I would suspect that there was criminal negligence on part of the government and the public health officials.” Speaker 3 notes that it is “highly recommended that pregnant women get their vaccine as soon as possible.” Speaker 0 contends that a narrative was pushed to everybody, including pregnant and breastfeeding women, that the mRNA shots were safe and effective. Speaker 2 claims wiretapping, harassment, charging, and barring expert witnesses: “They had wiretapped her phone. They had harassed her. They had charged her. They didn't allow any expert witnesses to testify.” Speaker 1 accuses police of trying to cover up Canadian babies’ deaths “to the point of stopping detective Helen Greaves from testifying about it.” Speaker 4 observes that “The dominant individuals keep the subordinates in their place by constant aggression.” Speaker 5 discusses vaccination choice versus public risk, remarking, “If you don't wanna get vaccinated, that's your choice. But don't think you can get on a plane or a train besides vaccinated people and put them at risk,” and claims CBC initially “started off with CBC running a story to implicate her and to paint her with a brush that looks uncomplimentary to the public.” Speaker 6 claims Canada must shift its understanding of what the is, describing it as “a state broadcaster pushing the agenda of the Liberal government of Canada.” Speaker 4 calls this “the most significant matter affecting our children today from a health perspective,” noting that authorities are “not investigating.” Speaker 2 concludes that everything emanates outward from this case involving law enforcement, the judicial system, the pharmaceutical industry, and health agencies, “how they work together, how they censored information. It all ties together to this one case, and that's what makes it so dangerous.”

Speaker decries the use of vaccines and mandates, questioning why it was done. They claim, "these vaccines were not vaccines" and that "the messenger RNA vaccines of Pfizer and Moderna" caused "unbelievable problems and damage to people," and were "pushed into this" by Pfizer and Moderna. They state, "These were not vaccines. These were horrible gene therapies that could actually integrate into your genome," linking to a rise in "turbo cancers." They urge others to "stand up to trial, defend themselves, and go to court" and call it "Nuremberg trial stuff," alleging "incompetence" and "negligence," that "they were never ever effective" and that there was "no evidence that they were effective whatsoever" and "they were never ever safe."

Speaker 1 states that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They claim that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 asserts this is not an opinion, but can be verified by anyone reviewing package inserts and clinical trial documents on the FDA website.

The speaker addresses the issue of vaccines, claiming the FDA has lost the trust of Americans. Autism rates are cited, stating that in the 1980s, it was 1 in 10,000, but a recent Children's Health Defense study indicates it's now 1 in 33 among children ages 5 to 8. Parents are said to point to vaccines as a cause, but are dismissed. The speaker criticizes the emergency use authorization of COVID vaccines, alleging the process took only days compared to the typical 10-15 years for vaccine development. VAERS reports are referenced, citing 1,662,426 reports, including 38,541 deaths, 220,494 hospitalizations, and other adverse events. The speaker contrasts this with the alleged dismissal of Ivermectin as "horse paste," despite its effectiveness against COVID. The speaker asks if the addressee objected to the removal of Doctors Gruber and Krausz for opposing mandated booster shots, to which the addressee said no. The speaker claims vaccinated and boosted individuals keep getting and spreading COVID-19, while those with natural immunity do not.

Speaker 0 argues that 'the trustworthiness of the information that we actually receive from the news media' is a major problem and notes that 'the easiest thing for our democratic colleagues to do is to scare people.' He asks, 'COVID nineteen was politicized?' Speaker 1 answers, 'the whole process was politicized' and says 'we were lied to about everything... the vaccines would prevent transmission' and 'they prevent infection'—claims he says are contradicted by 'the animal studies and the clinical trial showed.' He accuses the CDC of letting 'the teachers union' write school-closure orders that 'hurt working people all over the country, and then pretend it was science based.' He adds examples: 'Martin Koldor from Harvard' was 'ejected [from COVID]... because he wasn't in the orthodoxy'; 'FDA during COVID' officials 'Gruber and Krausz' criticized Biden mandates; Biden said, 'I would never take that vaccine, the Trump vaccine' then mandated it and fired top FDA officials who said it had not been properly tested.' The exchange ends with 'Yes.'

The speaker, recently retired from a local hospital, claims widespread disbelief in flu shots among colleagues due to data issues, stating "the efficacy and I won't give you data. You created the data. Ten percent one year, eighteen percent the next, forty percent at best." They describe the flu vaccine given to children aged two to eight for nearly four years as ineffective, with a claimed three percent efficacy at times. The speaker contrasts this with their hospital experience, where doctors, nurses, medical assistants, patient care, and lab staff did not believe in the flu shot, until mandates and recommendations arrived. They express relief at retirement, saying their soul was sick about what they witnessed, and that conflicts of interest prevented them from speaking out while employed. They recount working on high-volume ER days with about 300 flu cases daily and claim they never contracted the flu, attributing this to personal practices: washing hands, taking vitamin D, and using a berry syrup. The speaker criticizes the shift from physicians and nurses to pharmacists administering the vaccine, accuses the system of bribing people with Target gift cards and marketing the vaccine as free, and denounces scare tactics. They observe an increase in vaccination across generations, noting "some of you are my age," with their generation having seven shots, their daughter ten, her son around sixty, and their new grandson expected to receive seventy-two vaccines, expressing shock at this escalation. The speaker references Robert F. Kennedy Jr., saying he fights for them and goes to court for kids who suffered, noting that Kennedy's family started Special Olympics. They claim that in Kennedy’s view, autism linked to vaccines is evident since there were no autistic kids in the past four decades, and allege that vaccines have caused autism. They describe watching a perfectly healthy two-year-old become a "severe autistic child" after vaccination, expressing certainty that autism exists because of vaccines. They forecast their 10-year-old grandson becoming an adult who, at age 40, would be walking in the mall with a diaper and a helmet. The speaker ends by thanking studies they claim are not done and reiterates their stance against vaccines, including autism implications, as presented in the narrative.

Speaker 1 states that less than one percent of the public is totally unvaccinated. The Amish are given as an example of a largely unvaccinated group. Speaker 1 claims it is very rare to find an autistic child in the Amish community, and that ADD, autoimmune disease, PANDA PANS, and epilepsy are also rare. Speaker 1 asserts the U.S. government has studied the Amish for decades, but has not released a report. Speaker 1 believes the reason for this is that the report would show that not following government guidelines leads to better health outcomes. Speaker 1 concludes that the report would be devastating to the narrative and would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades by burying data.

The speaker believes COVID vaccine programs should be stopped. They are astounded by the number of papers critical of the vaccine or showing negative effects. The speaker claims a group of researchers funded by Pfizer and the NIH bullies editors to retract papers with negative findings about the vaccine. They assert the number of retractions is appalling. According to the speaker, in one instance where an editor resisted, Nature Springer bought the journal and retracted the paper. The speaker states that this is what they have been dealing with.