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"We'll bring in the military if it's needed, by the way." "We're gonna have National Guard, but Pete Hegseth will tell you about it." "We will bring in the military if needed." "They'll immediately begin massive enforcement operations targeting known gangs, drug dealers, and criminal networks to get them the hell off the street, maybe get them out of the country because a lot of them came into our country illegally." "They shouldn't have been allowed in." "They come from Venezuela." "They come all over the world." "We're gonna get them the hell out." "They won't be here long." "But some of these people, a lot of them are homegrown criminals." "These are bad people." "These are rough people." "And this is just a list of some of the people that were given to me today that were criminals removed from the DC streets this weekend." "They were rough, rough and tough, but we're rougher and tougher."

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"It's been ninety days of protest at the ICE facility in Portland where tensions are high, neighborhoods resemble war zones, and the line between order and chaos is razor thin." "We've had multiple assaults on federal officers ever since early June." "Our mission here is to exactly that is to protect the federal facility, protect the employees, protect visitors." "We've had since June, every single night, we've had protesters." "They are twelve hour shifts, and but we're twenty four seven." "The guillotine was abandoned property from Monday night. It was rolled out as part of the protest, and then after the crowd left, it was left in the middle of the street. So we removed it and and brought it in until the rightful owner comes to claim it." "We would love for people to join our agency." "this story is far from over."

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The president has been trying to provoke violence here, right here, in the black communities and in the brown communities, having ICE kidnap our neighbors, having black having the black community be harassed and profiled and want, want a response. We say, hell no. We won't go. One that respects rights to build trust and keep our communities truly safe and that is fascism free. Free is not a road map to safety. It is a burial. Data and reports from many credible organizations show patterns. Black people are more likely to be stopped, searched, questioned, arrested, and harmed encounters with the law. When we add the president of federal agents or the national guard to daily life in these neighborhoods, the burden can multiply. Not by making harm more rare, but making it more visible and more likely to escalate.

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Tim Walz served in the National Guard for 24 years, enlisting at 17. No military service is known for JD Vance. The comparison is clear. Mention of George Floyd's killing and the resulting unrest. Apologies for the interruption.

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I haven't contacted the Department of Defense about their current views on the defend the guard legislation, but I've seen Secretary Hagel's clip and understand his perspective. The National Guard is currently deployed in the Sinai Peninsula for peacekeeping and fighting ISIS in the Middle East. But this bill prevents the National Guard from even training overseas because it prevents the National Guard from using instrumentalities of war. This endangers the 8,000 Arizona guardsmen who won't have the opportunity to train with countries they may have to fight alongside if Congress declares war. It's inappropriate to prevent our troops from training for potential conflicts. That's not what the bill says, and it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise. You are being dishonest, the bill states active duty combat means performing services in the active federal military service of The United States. Participation in an armed conflict, hazardous service relating to an armed conflict in a foreign state, or performance of a duty through an instrumentality of war.

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The discussion centers on why the National Guard was not deployed to the Capitol on the morning of January 6. The explanation given involves a two-step process for authorization: first, authorization by the commander in chief, which had been obtained, and second, a request by the local governing body, specifically the mayor and the Capitol Police Bureau. Mister Patel confirms that there was a letter from Mayor Muriel Bowser dated January 5 to the Department of Defense stating that she would not be requesting any additional National Guard troops. Consequently, they were on standby but not activated due to the mayor’s declination of the request. Speaker 0 presses the point, implying that there was an offering or possibility to deploy the National Guard that was not executed, and suggests contacting the Mayor of Washington, DC to understand other outreach to police departments. The conversation repeats that the National Guard was not initially deployed and questions why they were blocked or not prepared from the outset. Mister Patel reiterates the key facts: the authority came through the commander in chief, the local governing body had declined to request additional National Guard, and thus there was no immediate deployment. Speaker 0 takes responsibility for not having the National Guard ready, suggesting a need to prepare more in the future. The exchange emphasizes the procedural sequence—authorization, local request, and the mayor’s declination—along with implications about preparedness and the perceived blocking or absence of National Guard deployment at the outset.

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Federal agencies, including the FBI, are in charge of the city with unidentified officers. This lack of transparency undermines accountability and trust, going against the principles of justice. Former DOJ officials warn that allowing officers to work anonymously weakens oversight and suggests impunity for abuse.

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Following post-Desert Storm, many agencies actively recruit veterans and former military personnel. Some officers shown likely have military experience. Some may be National Guard members performing both military and law enforcement duties. There are veterans and likely current guard members involved in the law enforcement aspect. Police in the middle appear to be stepping back and moving vehicles to prevent damage.

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There are two types of forces: domestic soil and the National Guard. The president deploys the National Guard in DC, but governors deploy them in other states unless the president invokes the Insurrectionary Act. The speaker suggests a campaign urging Democratic governors to commit to deploying the National Guard only to protect people from white supremacists and rogue police, not against the people. The speaker, who has been anti-military, believes this is preferable to civilians facing armed conflict. Drawing on a past success in the 80s where a governor refused to send the National Guard to Central America, the speaker suggests engaging with National Guard members, who are often working-class, and believes they may be less entrenched than the police. The goal is to consider how the National Guard might be deployed on behalf of the people instead of against them.

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About half of the National Guard is leaving, but thousands remain. According to Speaker 1, none of the National Guard needs to be there because nothing is happening in the city and there are no protests. The speaker questions why 4,000 troops were assigned to guard two buildings, forcing them to leave their families, jobs, and education for what they call "performance art." Speaker 0 asks if the city is being targeted because it became a sanctuary city after Donald Trump was elected. Speaker 1 says no, because these policies have been in place for 45 years and exist all over the country. The recent action was simply updating a policy, not creating a new one.

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Felicia Ashley has given us some good reporting about their role in Washington DC since August because it has been, contentious to some. There are plenty of people who did not like the National Guard being here in the city. We don't know if that's the case as why this person acted the way they did talking about the gunman. But nonetheless, as Michelle, as you've pointed out, this is a struggle that's been going on in cities across the country right now where there is a lot of push back from some others welcoming them with open arms, but about sending the National Guard as the president would like to multiple cities to try and what he says, cut down on crime. I was in Portland, Oregon just earlier this month reporting on on some of the pushback there as members didn't like the idea. Members of the political parties there didn't like the idea of the National Guard coming in. But Memphis, Chicago, there are plenty of other places where there's a a genuine debate, and you can only imagine that that debate is gonna get much stronger and intensify over the next few days. And and then the the the quick reaction from Pete Hegseth over at the Pentagon, the secretary of war, to say, okay. We're sending 500 more National Guard into Washington DC in light of what just happened. Shows you that there certainly won't be a scaling back. Yeah, and there's a question of whether that will agitate more. Incidents like this. We don't know. But that is something that we will be following in the days ahead. But right now, top of mind is this investigation. With this case playing out in Downtown DC. Our Christian Flores standing by. Christian, you have new information for us. I'll keep it on. You know, just wanna kind of take you back to what we're looking at right now. I mean, again, it's just an absolutely packed scene still several hours later. I mean, look, we've been talking about it pretty much throughout the entire afternoon. We're so close to the White House. You're used to seeing just more amped up police presence and security presence around this area. But, of course, you have a shooting and not just a shooting, but a shooting targeting two National Guard troops, and it's just gonna be amped up to eleven. I mean, earlier this afternoon, we spoke with someone who saw the aftermath. He didn't see the shooting, but he saw the aftermath. All of the first responders rushed to the scene. People, you know, trying to get some help to the scene. And he said he hasn't seen a police presence like this since, really, 09:11. And he's been here for a number of decades. Now, obviously, those are gonna be very, very different levels of police presence.

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The speaker explains that the handling of the event was different from previous situations. They mention that the decision was made by the intelligence agency and the military. According to a federal law, the speaker was required to request federal resources like the National Guard in advance from the Capitol Police Board. However, they were denied twice due to optics and lack of intelligence support. The decision was made by Paul Irving and Mike Stenger, who work for Pelosi and McConnell respectively.

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The secretary was asked to justify using the military for civilian law enforcement in Los Angeles. The secretary stated every American deserves to live in a safe community, and ICE agents need to be able to do their job of deporting illegal criminals. He said President Trump believes in law and order and has the authority to mobilize the National Guard or active duty troops to protect federal agents. When asked which authority justifies the use, the secretary stated it sounds like all three, citing millions of illegals waving flags from foreign countries and assaulting officers. He said the governor of California has failed to protect his people, along with the mayor of Los Angeles, so President Trump will protect the agents. When told orders for these purposes should be issued through governors, the secretary stated President Trump has all the authorities necessary.

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Speaker 0 asked Secretary Hagsteth about a memo circulating on social media detailing the establishment of a National Guard Response Force trained in crowd control and civil unrest and deployed in all 50 states by April 2026, requesting verification of authenticity and more information on operations. Speaker 1 responded that they will not answer particulars on something that may be in the planning process, but noted that there are multiple layers of National Guard Response Forces, including in each state, regionally, and across Title 10 active duty and Washington DC. He stated there are a lot of different ways constitutionally and legally to employ Title X and Title 32 forces, and they will do so when necessary.

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My administration surge surge 500 federal agents into the district, including from the FBI, ATF, DEA, Park Police, the US Marshals Service, the Secret Service, and the Department of Homeland Security. You know, a lot of nations, they don't have anything like that. They got some some police, and they're rough police. They don't have a DEA, ATF, FBI, Park Police, US Marshal Service, Secret Service, Department of Homeland Security. They got some police, but they're rough police, and they do their job. They don't have crime. We're not gonna have crime either. They made dozens of arrests, and that's what that's what starts to happen. Again, cashless bail. Watch what we do with that. Today, we're

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I requested the National Guard urgently to come to Capitol Hill. I spoke with Pentagon officials to get approval. During the call, I emphasized the urgency of the situation, but was told they didn't like the optics of having the National Guard present.

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Replacing police officers with social workers is an asinine idea that will cause violence to continue. Evil people do not care about gun laws or any laws. It is a battle between good and evil, and law-abiding police officers are crucial to protect us in every city. Local law enforcement, not the FBI, keeps you safe on a day-to-day basis. They respond to 911 calls, and without them, cities will crumble and become violent. It is important to back the blue.

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Well, mister president, it's an honor to be here. We've mobilized the DC National Guard. It'll be operationalized by the secretary of the army, Dan Driscoll, through the DC Guard. You will see them flowing into the streets of Washington in the coming week. Other National Guard units, other specialized units, they will be strong, they will be tough, and they will stand with their law enforcement partners. This is nothing new for DOD. We've been protecting other people's borders for twenty years. It's about time we protect our own, and we're working with ICE and CBP. In Los Angeles, we did the same thing, working with the California National Guard, working with ICE officers. ICE officers deserve to do their job, and not be attacked. We will work alongside all DC police and federal law enforcement to ensure this city is safe, this city is beautiful. Thank you, mister president.

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Speaker 0: He explains that he wanted to enforce laws with ICE agents and federal law enforcement but couldn't, so he needed to call the National Guard. The question is what "regular forces" means, since the statute says the president has to be unable to enforce the law with regular forces, and the Supreme Court had not decided that before yesterday. The Supreme Court now says "regular forces" means you have to try with the regular armed forces first before you can bring out the National Guard. The unintended consequence could be that the president is going to have to call the eighty second airborne or the marines or the hundred and first airborne division, as, for example, President Eisenhower did after Brown v. Board of Education in the South to enforce desegregation. The president might have to do that first in order to protect those federal buildings and ICE agents, and then if they fail, he can then call out the National Guard. Speaker 1: J. B. Pritzker, the governor in the state of Illinois, is saying this is a big win for Illinois and American democracy, an important step in curbing the Trump administration's consistent abuse of power and slowing Trump’s march toward authoritarianism. The claim is political. The president has obviously tried to work within the framework of the law as his legal team sees it. What happens from here? In fifteen seconds or so, what happens from here? I’m not surprised by Pritzker’s response, and I guess you aren’t either. Speaker 0: He notes that Trump will now have the right to go to the Supreme Court on the full merits. This is just preliminary, and he may be able to get the court, the full court, to reverse this preliminary decision. More worrisome, the Supreme Court is essentially inviting President Trump to send regular armed troops and deploy those to Chicago and Los Angeles before he can send the National Guard. A governor would rather have National Guard troops than the eighty second Airborne and the Marine Corps patrolling the streets of Chicago. Speaker 1: Yeah. Especially when you think...

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Under the Trump administration, anarchy will not stand, and federal agents will not be attacked. An American city will not be invaded and conquered by a foreign enemy. These people are too tough to stomp on and are attempting to infiltrate and occupy federal buildings wearing armor and face shields. The equipment is professional, and someone is financing it. Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice are investigating who is financing the equipment. Many of these people were let in by the Biden administration and came from prisons and jails.

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Governor Newsom did not request federal assistance from the National Guard in California, which has 9,000 local law enforcement officers. The National Guard operates under the governor's supervision. However, during the Iraq War, the Bush administration requested National Guard troops, resources, equipment, weapons, and vehicles. Coordination is key, and it's important to work together to solve problems, regardless of who initiates the request.

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The National Guard and Marines are being stationed at federal buildings across the country where riots are taking place, not deployed against US citizens. They remain on federal property to provide security for those buildings. If people do not storm the federal building or attack the National Guard, they will not be attacked. As an investigative journalist who covers protests, the speaker says they stood two inches from the National Guard, who did nothing. The National Guard is not allowed to operate in a law enforcement capacity because the cities will not allow it.

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General William Walker, the commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard, assures that they have everything they need to counter the current threat level. The National Guard's role is to assist law enforcement, particularly in civil disturbance situations. They serve as a layered defense alongside the Secret Service, Capitol Police, Metropolitan Police Department, and United States Park Police to ensure a peaceful transfer of power. The National Guard members are screened for insider threats through a credentialing process involving background checks and multiple screenings. General Walker expresses confidence in their ability to handle the situation.

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The United States military, including Secretary of Defense Miller and General Milley, discussed locking down Washington DC due to concerns of violence at the Capitol on January 6th. They considered revoking permits for demonstrations on Capitol Hill. However, I, the one who issues these permits, was not informed. Instead, on January 4th, Miller restricted the National Guard from carrying any weapons or civil disobedience equipment, which doesn't make sense. So, the military expresses worry about potential violence but simultaneously limits the National Guard's ability to take an aggressive stance.

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MSNBC Says NO CRIME In Rich DC Neighborhoods
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This morning, videos show law enforcement patrolling Georgetown as part of a broader show of force tied to rising violence. Delano Squires, a Heritage Foundation research fellow with prior DC government experience, joins Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti to discuss the deployment, local realities, and media framing. Squires explains his background: 15 years in DC government, leading Connect DC to expand technology access for low‑income residents, and time in the gun violence prevention office. He says he supported Operation Legend in the first Trump term, arguing federal resources—ATF, DOJ, DEA—can address violent street crime in cities. He cautions, however, that the current approach feels disjointed because it isn’t just about a few high‑profile incidents but about persistent violence concentrated in specific neighborhoods. In DC, 60% of homicides happen east of the Anacostia River in W7 and W8, the poorest, predominantly Black areas. Georgetown and the Mall are not where most crime concentrates, he notes, yet federal forces have been deployed there. If federal resources target the highest‑crime parts, he says, that would be different from today’s street‑level show of force. He discusses media and political rhetoric. MSNBC’s Simone Sanders portrays DC as a super‑dangerous city, while Squires argues that the problem is real and localized, with quality‑of‑life crimes and the fear they generate affecting ordinary residents. He challenges the left’s tendency to emphasize federal responses while residents in Southeast demand police presence and accountability. On solutions, Squires advocates a comprehensive approach: better coordination between federal and local agencies, use of intelligence and prosecutions to close cases, and accountability for parents and communities in addressing youth crime. He even entertains the idea of rounding up known gang members if legally permissible, and supports zero‑tolerance for vagrancy while acknowledging political and legal constraints. He stresses that violence is not just a political show; for many residents it is a daily reality requiring coordinated action.
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