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Michael Vitrelis expresses frustration with the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for not testing life-saving drugs. He specifically mentions peptide t and compound q, and directs his anger towards Anthony Fauci. Protesters outside the NIH criticize the organization for not releasing a cure and highlight conflicts of interest with pharmaceutical companies. They also mention the exclusion of people of color, women, and children from trials. The focus on AZT, a toxic and expensive drug, is questioned, suggesting a connection between its manufacturers and the NIH. The protesters argue that the NIH's staff, who decide which treatments to study, receive funding from drug companies, raising concerns about objectivity.

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The speaker states that a disease, surmised early on, began in the male homosexual population in the U.S. The speaker clarifies that this was not due to anything intrinsically wrong with homosexuality, but rather straightforward epidemiology. Introducing an infectious agent into a population where sexual contact is the mode of transmission creates a perfect setup for spread. The speaker notes a concentration of cases in the New York Metropolitan Area (New York City and New Jersey) and in Los Angeles.

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This disease initially affected the male homosexual population in the US. The spread was facilitated by sexual contact. The concentration of cases was observed in the New York metropolitan area, including New York City and New Jersey, as well as in Las Vegas.

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There is a drug called Ivermectin that has proven to be highly effective in combating the current crisis. This is not an exaggeration, but a scientific recommendation based on extensive data gathered over the past three months. The NIH's recommendation against using Ivermectin outside of controlled trials was made in August, but since then, numerous studies from various countries have shown its miraculous impact. It has been found to completely prevent the transmission of the virus and ensure that individuals who take it do not get sick.

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The FDA will quickly address the issue and expand the indication for AZT. Anthony Fauci recommended that anyone with CD4 War cells lower than 500 should take AZT as a preventive measure, even if they were not symptomatic. AZT is a modified nucleic acid that can disrupt cell replication, similar to chemotherapy drugs. Some people experienced severe side effects from AZT, including rapid deterioration and disfigurement. However, there are alternative treatments like hyperthermia, vitamin C drips, and ozone treatment that have shown success. Fauci and the government have shown contempt for natural and nontoxic therapies, favoring toxic drugs like AZT.

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The speaker discusses the eradicability of viruses, focusing on the case of AIDS. They mention four criteria for eradicability: the absence of an animal reservoir, the virus not persisting in infected humans for years, the absence of multiple serological types, and the ability to obtain the necessary social cooperation. The speaker argues that AIDS violates all four criteria, suggesting that it will remain a long-term problem along with related viruses.

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Scientists are increasingly skeptical about the feasibility and safety of developing an AIDS vaccine. The concern lies in the lengthy testing process required to ensure its effectiveness and potential risks. Initially, a small group of individuals would be administered the vaccine, and if no adverse effects are observed after a year, it would be expanded to 500 people. After another year without complications, the vaccine would be given to thousands. However, the worry is that it could take up to 12 years for any serious issues to arise. This uncertainty raises doubts about the viability of creating an AIDS vaccine.

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Today, I want to address the AIDS epidemic and draw a parallel to the lies of Hitler during World War II. The National Institutes of Health, along with the media, are perpetrating a horrible scam in the name of science. I challenge individuals like Gallo, Fousey, Hazeltine, and Essex from the NIH, who I believe are guilty of genocide, to take me to court. Burroughs Welcome, the pharmaceutical company, has knowingly released a deadly drug. I am not alone in exposing these truths. Renowned virologist Peter Duesberg has risked his career to speak out. Despite losing his laboratory and funding, his tenured professorship remains intact.

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The speaker discusses how the disease initially spread among the male homosexual population in the United States. They clarify that this does not imply anything negative about homosexuality, but rather it is a result of straightforward epidemiology. The concentration of cases was observed in the New York Metropolitan Area, including New York City and New Jersey, as well as in Los Angeles. The speaker emphasizes the importance of introducing an infectious agent into a population for it to spread.

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The speaker suggests that there may be a lack of integrity among physicians and scientific researchers investigating the origins of AIDS. They argue that it is not in their interest to always tell the truth and that there are instances where they have lied. They claim that there are many others who believe the virus may have come from a laboratory. The spread of AIDS in countries like Brazil and Haiti is attributed to factors such as the smallpox vaccination campaign in Africa and the hepatitis B vaccine program in America. The speaker emphasizes the urgency of finding a solution to control the virus, as it has the potential to exterminate mankind. The discussion also touches on a biological warfare attack in San Francisco.

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The FDA will address the issue and expand the indication for AZT. Anthony Fauci recommended that anyone with CD4 cells lower than 500, even if they were healthy, should take AZT as a preventive measure. AZT is a modified nucleic acid that can disrupt cell replication, similar to chemotherapy drugs. However, there have been cases of severe side effects, including death and disfigurement. Some individuals have found success with alternative treatments like hyperthermia, vitamin C drips, and ozone treatment, but these options are not widely accepted by the medical community. Fauci has been criticized for his disregard of natural and nontoxic therapies and his promotion of AZT, which was considered highly toxic.

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AZT was horrendously toxic. AZT was regarded it was developed originally by the National Cancer Institute as a chemotherapy drug, and it was regarded it killed all the rats when they gave it to them. KolaxoSmithKline found that it did kill HIV virus. Tony Fauci, because he did not know at that point NIAID had never developed the drug. So it made him very dependent on GlaxoSmithKline. They rushed it through, and Tony Fauci helped them rush it through. They used a number of fraudulent tricks to get the drug approved. The drug was killing AZT was killing everybody who took it in the study group. And what Fauci did and Burroughs Welcomed did is they started giving the people they're giving AZT, they started giving them blood transfusions to keep them alive. And then he got the drug approved. The only reason those people survived a six week drug trial was because they were getting these transfusions. And that drug, you know, according to critics, killed three hundred and thirty thousand people over the next ten years.

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Speaker 0 describes the plasma-derived hepatitis B vaccine as derived from “the most dangerous starting material” and asserts the starting material was blood heavily contaminated with HIV, collected from New York heroin users during what is recognized as the world’s first AIDS outbreak. He notes the vaccine’s development began with funds from Doctor Fauci’s agency, in collaboration with Tuskegee researchers, to cross-connect arteries of tranquillised chimpanzees and comatose humans, with mixed raw blood flowing between groups of chimps and humans to train the chimps’ immune systems on human hepatitis virus. The vaccine inventors warned it might work the other way as well and claims several chimpanzees tested positive for ancestors to HIV and Kaposi’s sarcoma herpes virus, the deadly combination behind AIDS; this serial passage between species is called gain of function. He concludes this created the safest vaccine we’ve ever used. Speaker 1 adds a claim about a hidden starting point: the blood used was heavily contaminated with HIV from New York heroin users, and that the vaccine’s development involved financing from Fauci’s agency and collaboration with Tuskegee researchers to cross-link chimpanzee and human circulatory systems. He states that the serial passage of viruses between species is now called gain of function and asserts this process produced HIV and Kaposi’s sarcoma herpes virus, and suggests the vaccine’s safety is paradoxical given these origins. Speaker 2 emphasizes responsibility and risk, noting AIDS’ cause was unknown at the time but fear centered on potential contamination of the vaccine with whatever caused AIDS. HIV was “sort of hanging over this vaccine like a cloud,” though he claims HIV couldn’t survive the treatments given to the vaccine. Speaker 0 transitions to Part II, a deep dive into the vaccine timeline, aiming to quickly reach the AIDS timeline ramifications. Speaker 3 provides a timeline framework: well-documented events through May 1983 to set the stage for two fiercely contested events now resolved by a federal investigation. Speaker 2 lists milestones: - 1950s: The world’s earliest confirmed HIV-positive being is a chimpanzee used to develop hepatitis B vaccines. - 1960s: Chimpanzees and New York heroin users cross-transfuse raw blood to generate chimpanzee antigens to fight human hepatitis. - 1972: Scientists at Doctor Fauci’s agency announce chimpanzee antigens protect humans from hepatitis B; first patent filed for a human vaccine made from chimpanzee antigens. - 1973: The world’s first recognized AIDS outbreak occurs among New York heroin users, the first group injected with chimpanzee plasma. - 1974: Thirteen thousand New York gay men recruited to test the vaccines. - 1975: NYBC and Merck file three patents, citing five vaccine examples all made from pure chimpanzee antigens; a circular extraction method akin to dialysis to extract large amounts of antigens for mass production. - 1978: After years of testing, nationwide placebo-controlled trials begin on gay men with NYBC’s New York trial and CDC trials mainly in California; first HIV-positive blood samples found in gay men, all collected from the cohort, all of the never-before-seen subtype B. - 1979: September—ten months into the trial—the scientist in charge wants to abort due to an unexplainable flare-up in precisely 11 participants who received the vaccine; aborting would harm the vaccine’s reputation. CDC soon reports unexplainable Kaposi’s sarcoma cases in gay men, noting that precisely eleven had the flare-up as of September 1979; by December, 19 cases and the first death, marking the onset of the world's second AIDS outbreak affecting the second group inoculated with chimpanzee plasma-derived vaccines. - 1981: A cancer researcher suggests a new infectious agent with a 50% mortality rate may be causing Kaposi’s sarcoma cases in vaccine trial sites and claims it was transmitted in the vaccine as disease progression occurred quickly in trial participants; trial scientists confirm incubation periods differ and are longer in gay men not in the trial. In the next 15 months, another 593 cases emerge and 41% die. Merck announces Heptavax B, a third US brand for domestic market; original HBVax and NYBC B Vax offered only overseas; a compromise to get FDA approval makes the new version from human blood, but without the circular chimpanzee extraction method it’s “too expensive” for large-scale use. - 1982: CDC names the disease AIDS; CDC asserts the FDA-approved vaccine uses only human blood, distancing it from earlier vaccines; WHO warns AIDS may be caused by a virus in the vaccine’s plasma. - May 1983: French scientists identify the causal virus, enabling testing of archived blood samples; it was a chimpanzee virus, and KS lesions required co-infection with a second virus found in those chimpanzees. This discovery enables verifying the AIDS origin theory: vaccine transmission by comparing HIV rates between men randomly given the hepatitis B vaccine versus a placebo during the trials. Speaker 3 notes two pivotal events in their chimp vax preprint, now settled, and states that in June 1983 two Fauci-associated scientists claimed infection rates in the New York trial were similar between vaccine and placebo; internally, they say Fauci’s scientists spread disinformation to defend the chimpanzee vaccine invention. Speaker 2 contends that the CDC claimed no difference in rates in 1984 but that the private study remains unreleased; the analysis implies nearly all HIV infections occurred in vaccinated participants, not placebo, based on limited data and interpretation. The narrative argues the CDC private study would have shown high HIV rates among the vaccine group, but details were obscured. It alleges the CDC’s withheld study used skewed comparisons to mask vaccine-associated HIV transmission. Speaker 3 briefly references Africa’s rollout in 1984, claiming AIDS emerged there a year after a symposium and that FDA officials shifted from chimpanzee vaccines to the human-blood Heptavax, enabling continued overseas sales. It asserts chimpanzee-based vaccines were widely used in poor countries by 1986, with Africa’s initial infections concentrated in newborns and young women; the WHO suppressed findings that HIV spread via medical injections, not needles alone, to protect immunization programs. Retroactive testing allegedly shows HIV was not present in most African countries before vaccination; after vaccination began, infection rates rose in certain regions. The speaker notes a group, ChimpFacts, as a best account of probable HIV origins, but mainstream preprint servers rejected it.

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AIDS, initially seen as a disease affecting only gay individuals, is a condition that weakens the immune system and can lead to Kaposi's sarcoma, a rare form of cancer. This cancer has a high death rate of 80% within two years of diagnosis. AIDS also causes severe infections with a 100% death rate within two years. It is not a benign disease and is not limited to the gay community. Currently, 75% of cases are among homosexuals, 14% among heterosexual drug addicts, 5% among heterosexuals with no other risk factors, 5% among Haitian refugees, and 1% among hemophiliacs who likely contracted it through blood transfusions. Females who are partners of male drug addicts and infants of female drug addicts can also be affected.

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The speaker discusses various aspects of the AIDS virus pandemic. They mention that the virus was predicted in 1966 and may have been produced by crossing bovine leukemia virus Envisnavirus. The World Health Organization (WHO) wrote an article in 1972 about creating a t cell destroying virus. The speaker questions the coincidence of the AIDS pandemic in Africa occurring at vaccination centers where smallpox eradication programs were conducted. They debunk myths about AIDS, such as it being a homosexual disease or having a short incubation period. The speaker concludes by suggesting that the cure for AIDS may lie in the development of electromagnetic or electrophysiologic techniques to identify and eliminate the virus.

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Today, I want to address the AIDS epidemic and draw a parallel to the lies of Hitler during World War II. The National Institutes of Health, along with the media, are perpetrating a horrible scam in the name of science. I challenge individuals like Gallo, Fousey, Hazeltine, and Essex from the NIH, who I believe are guilty of genocide, to take me to court. Burroughs Welcome, the pharmaceutical company, is knowingly distributing a deadly drug. Renowned virologist Peter Duesberg has risked his career to speak out against this. Despite losing his laboratory and funding, he remains tenured and committed to exposing the truth.

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The early belief was that AIDS was limited to the male homosexual community and IV drug users. However, it was later discovered that groups like Haitians and hemophiliacs were also affected, and there were concerns about transmission through blood transfusions. A recent article by Alasky revealed that children in close contact with individuals at high risk for AIDS showed symptoms identical to AIDS syndrome, suggesting that the disease could be transmitted through intimate contact rather than just sexual or blood transmission. This led to speculation in the media that AIDS could be spread through casual contact, causing unnecessary fear.

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Speaker 0 argues that the AIDS virus, like COVID and monkeypox, was manufactured for a specific reason, and claims that all of these were produced by the United States government. They state that AZT, “the total numbers of [people] … killed by taking a drug that was known at the time that was going to actually have that kind of an effect,” contributed to mass deaths, and that buyers clubs emerged as a form of a black market to obtain treatments. They compare this to the situation with COVID, noting that obtaining ivermectin felt like buying on the black market, despite ivermectin having won a health Nobel prize years ago, and they describe the ongoing insanity of government actors who have not yet been held accountable. They reference history involving Ted Kennedy and his uncle, suggesting a broader pattern of government activity linked to disease manufacturing and drug development that purportedly does not help, paralleling the vaccines “that we have now learned.” The speaker shares a personal update about a friend who recently underwent surgery and is now facing extubation after three bypasses, describing him as a healthy man who should not be having these problems, and likening his situation to other cases they know of. The speaker claims to know “about six” people who were fully vaccinated due to job or other requirements and who have since died, using these experiences to illustrate perceived consequences of vaccination programs. They pivot to Anthony Fauci, asserting that Fauci’s involvement in government actions spans “twenty five, thirty five years,” and claims Fauci has been involved in nefarious acts that have resulted in the deaths of many people. They reference Bobby Kennedy describing the creation of a drug that allegedly caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men through AIDS. The speaker concludes with a pointed remark about AIDS and gay people, insisting that “nobody deserves that kind of a fate,” emphasizing that the tragedies described apply to all affected groups, and reiterating the belief that the government and officials have engaged in harmful, deadly activities related to disease and treatment.

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No one responded when I asked for proof. Everything was rushed in the case of AIDS, with no proper research or debate among scientists. The announcement was made without solid evidence, and a veil of secrecy was placed over an approximate truth. This is not how science works. Normally, you conduct experiments, analyze the results, and verify them before making a scientific announcement. But in this case, they held a press conference and declared that HIV is the cause of AIDS. They didn't explain why or provide any scientific references. There is no scientific reference, just a collection of arguments and indirect evidence.

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AIDS can be transmitted before an individual develops infections and is classified as having AIDS. The spread of the disease is facilitated by sexual contact. It's important to note that there are many individuals who already have the defect but are not classified as having AIDS. The statistics on AIDS only consider full-blown cases and do not account for the large number of individuals with the defect. The transmissibility of the disease is another crucial aspect to consider.

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There is a conspiracy to not help in a lot of different ways. One speaker believes another is a politician as much as a scientist. The other speaker disagrees, stating they are not a politician and that no political consideration has ever influenced their scientific decisions. One speaker thinks the other may be naive in understanding how to get things done in Washington, stating you don't get many shots of going out like the Lone Ranger. There is a blatant conflict of interest that runs rampant through all of NIH. This is the history of how AZT became the subject of over eighty percent of the studies being done by NIH for AIDS treatments, a drug that's already shown itself to be highly toxic, very expensive, and of at best extremely limited effectiveness.

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Dr. Strecker discusses the origins and transmission of the AIDS epidemic. He challenges the belief that the disease came from African monkeys and suggests it actually started in the 1970s in Africa during a smallpox vaccination program by the World Health Organization. He also questions the idea that AIDS is solely a venereal disease, as it can potentially be transmitted by carriers like mosquitoes. Dr. Strecker highlights that the virus can survive outside the body, contradicting previous assumptions. The government's involvement and the labeling of AIDS as a homosexual disease are also questioned, as the outbreak coincided with a hepatitis B vaccine program. The assumption that homosexuals were responsible for the disease lacks logical validity.

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The speaker questions if the virus could be one of those predicted in the late seventies that escaped from a laboratory and infected certain populations. They find it strange that AIDS initially affected specific groups, such as black Africans and middle-aged sexually active men, but not others. The speaker traces the origins of AIDS in America to government experiments conducted on gay men in cities like New York, San Francisco, and Los Angeles in 1978. They believe that AIDS in America does not come from Africa, although they acknowledge the existence of African AIDS.

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There is a discussion about immunodeficiency and its causes, clarifying that being homosexual is not the cause. Certain individuals had a toxic lifestyle that accumulated risk factors. The first antiretroviral medication discovered was AZT, which was toxic and initially intended for cancer treatment. It was later proposed for AIDS patients. People who were treated with AZT between 1985 and 1996 all died. Many individuals have died as a result of taking medication. The conversation highlights the high mortality rate associated with AZT treatment. The analogy of giving indefinite chemotherapy to a person is used to illustrate the negative consequences.

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Joe Rogan Experience #282 - Dr. Peter Duesberg & Bryan Callen
Guests: Dr. Peter Duesberg, Bryan Callen
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Dr. Peter Duesberg, a molecular biologist, argues that HIV does not cause AIDS, attributing the immune system failures in AIDS patients to factors like drug use, particularly among gay men in the 1980s and 1990s. He suggests that illicit drugs, such as amyl nitrate and crystal meth, weaken the immune system, making individuals susceptible to various diseases, including those associated with AIDS. Duesberg claims that HIV is one of the least harmful viruses, and its presence is often coincidental rather than causal in the decline of health seen in AIDS patients. He discusses the political motivations behind the scientific community's focus on HIV as a deadly virus, suggesting that researchers benefit from the narrative of a dangerous virus to secure funding and prestige. Duesberg notes that the population of HIV-positive individuals in America has remained stable over decades, contradicting claims of a deadly epidemic. He argues that the increase in AIDS cases correlates more with drug use than with the virus itself. Duesberg also critiques the effectiveness of protease inhibitors, stating that they do not cure HIV and may lead to long-term health issues. He emphasizes that many HIV-positive individuals live healthy lives without treatment, challenging the notion that HIV inevitably leads to AIDS. He points out that the scientific establishment has largely ignored alternative viewpoints, leading to censorship of dissenting opinions. The conversation touches on the historical context of AIDS, the role of drug use in the epidemic, and the challenges faced by those who question mainstream scientific narratives. Duesberg expresses frustration over the lack of open dialogue and peer-reviewed research supporting his claims, suggesting that the scientific community is resistant to change due to financial and reputational interests. The discussion concludes with a recognition of the complexity of the AIDS narrative and the need for further investigation into the relationship between HIV, drug use, and health outcomes.
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