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Massachusetts is not a sanctuary state, but Boston is a sanctuary city. According to Speaker 1, the state is operating like a sanctuary state. Law enforcement agencies and state agencies have reached out to the governor's office to turn individuals wanted for murder in El Salvador over to ICE. Speaker 1 questions why previously deported individuals, including registered sex offenders already on Massachusetts probation, are not turned over. Speaker 1 cites the example of a deported sex offender living across the street from a playground that the state knew about.

Speaker 1 is accused of spreading a false claim about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio abducting and eating pets. Speaker 1 responds that city officials haven't said the claim is false, only that they lack evidence. Speaker 1 states that constituents have reported firsthand and secondhand accounts of these events. Speaker 1 says the town has been ravaged by 20,000 migrants, leading to increased healthcare and housing costs, as well as a rise in communicable diseases like HIV and TB. Speaker 1 asserts that the media only cares about the issue because it was turned into a meme about cats, highlighting the media's failure to address the consequences of Kamala Harris's border policies.

Speaker 1 questions Governor Walls about his past statements and actions. Speaker 1 asks if Walls knew the Nazis killed 6,000,000 Jews during the Holocaust, and if he agrees the Holocaust is the most horrific atrocity in human history. Speaker 1 asks if Walls knew the Nazi Gestapo imprisoned, tortured, and murdered Jews and committed suicide genocide against them, then asks if Walls knew ICE has done none of that. Speaker 1 asks if Walls will apologize for comparing ICE to the Gestapo. Speaker 1 asks if Walls believes the Nuremberg trials were a good exercise in holding the Nazis accountable, and if he is calling for ICE agents to be brought to a tribunal under the threat of death. Speaker 1 asks if Walls still wants to abolish ICE, and if he marched in a rally calling for ICE's abolishment. Speaker 1 asks Walls to rate Kamala Harris's job as border czar on a scale of one to ten, and if he ever personally spoke with Kamala about Joe Biden's cognitive collapse.

The speaker asks if cities should be allowed to ignore federal law regarding reporting illegal immigrants and provide sanctuary. Speaker 1 claims cities ignore federal law due to lack of federal funding for enforcement. They cite a city that imposed similar sanctions, resulting in economic decline with stores closing, leading to a policy change. The speaker asserts the federal government has been derelict in not funding the requirements needed to enforce existing law. The speaker asks Biden if he would allow cities to ignore federal law. Biden answers, "No."

Speaker 0 asks about the danger to US communities from 13,000 people convicted of murder who crossed the border illegally. Speaker 1 responds that the numbers being reported are a false representation of the data. Speaker 1 states that total returns and removals in the past year have been higher than every year under the previous administration since 2010. Speaker 1 insists that data should be reported accurately to avoid confusing or lying to the American people, and that the misrepresentation has been fact-checked and debunked by multiple outlets.

The speaker states that because they are in a sanctuary city, they do not report illegal immigrants. They claim to have released a double homicide suspect because of this policy. The speaker says someone came to pick up $320,000 from their grandparents and is working their way through it. The speaker is asked to take seriously that someone is repeating an offense while being illegal. The person is reportedly in Chinatown, New York.

The speaker questions why the Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg, is not taking action against a person who defended themselves. They express frustration that the person is only facing a short prison sentence. Another speaker responds, stating that Alvin Bragg is a justice warrior who prioritizes criminals over victims. They mention other DAs in San Francisco, LA, and Philadelphia who have similar approaches. The focus is on protecting criminals rather than victims.

In the exchange, Speaker 0 recounts feedback from “real Chicagoans,” describing them as mostly Black and Brown, and claims they tell him that the other person does not seem to know the difference between illegal aliens and real Chicago citizens. He asserts that these individuals feel the other person is siding with illegal aliens over their communities. He then pivots to a direct line of questioning. The real question, as Speaker 0 presents it, concerns a violent incident: “An illegal alien from Nicaragua grabbed a woman on the North Side, bashed her head into the sidewalk, knocked her unconscious, and raped her.” He presses for a direct response about what would have happened “if that had been your wife, Stacy.” He stages the hypothetical to elicit a clear stance from Speaker 1 on how to respond to such a crime and its immigration context. Speaker 1, however, interrupts to steer the conversation away from the loaded scenario. He repeatedly signals a move on, indicating a preference not to engage with the hypothetical or to answer the pointed ethical dilemma on the spot. The back-and-forth centers on the tactic of addressing the question versus avoiding it, with Speaker 0 insisting on a straightforward answer “as a man, not as mayor, but as a man.” The exchange escalates as Speaker 0 urges Speaker 1 to provide a simple yes or no and to address the issue directly, effectively challenging Speaker 1 to commit to a position regarding ICE and deportation in light of the described crime. Speaker 1 responds by again stating to move on, resisting the direct yes/no framework. Throughout, Speaker 0 persists in pressing for a candid, personal response to the hypothetical crime and its immigration implications, while Speaker 1 maintains a boundary about continuing the discussion in that moment. Ultimately, Speaker 1 declines to answer the specific deportation question in the moment, and Speaker 0 reaffirms the demand for a direct personal answer. The segment ends with Speaker 1 thanking the audience and moving on, leaving the explicit yes-or-no question unresolved in this exchange.

An off-duty officer and his friend were attacked in New York City by two individuals attempting to rob them. The officer defended himself and his friend, injuring one of the attackers. The injured attacker, Miguel Francisco Mora Nunez, is a Dominican national who entered the country illegally in 2023 and was released by the Biden administration. Nunez has a long criminal record, including charges of grand larceny, assault, and an active warrant in Massachusetts for armed robbery with a firearm, as well as charges for kidnapping and witness intimidation. He was arrested four times in New York City but released due to sanctuary city policies. The speaker claims the officer is in the hospital because of the policies of the mayor, city council, and those in charge of public safety. The speaker is calling on every mayor and governor of sanctuary cities to change their policies.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 and the mainstream media of covering for a "vicious gang" that has taken the lives of American women. Speaker 1 claims individuals can be classified based on tattoos and streetwear, leading to deportation to El Salvador. Speaker 0 refutes this, stating the Department of Homeland Security and its agents use a "litany of criteria" to ensure individuals qualify as "foreign terrorists" for deportation. Speaker 0 asserts the president authorized a mass deportation campaign targeting "illegal criminal aliens" and defends the credibility of agents risking their lives, while Speaker 1 questions their credibility. Speaker 0 repeats the accusation of covering for a "vicious gang."

The speaker claims that under the current administration's policies, individuals can face significant jail time for child trafficking. They allege the Biden administration trafficked 500,000 children into the U.S. and helped them disappear, which they consider criminal. The speaker asserts that sanctuary states and cities violate laws against harboring, evading authorities, smuggling, concealing, and obstructing justice. They state President Trump is preparing an executive order to clamp down on sanctuary cities, calling them a "cancer on our democracy." The speaker says President Trump will soon take action against the radical left's efforts to shield illegal aliens, with measures more robust and aggressive than anything done before.

The speaker questions Governor Hochul about Executive Order One, which they claim continues sanctuary state policies. The speaker defines this policy as preventing state officers from disclosing information to federal immigration authorities for civil immigration enforcement. The speaker asks Hochul if she knows Saqir A Khan, an illegal migrant who allegedly raped a 15-year-old girl. They then ask about Sebastian Zapita Khalil, an illegal migrant who allegedly burned a woman alive on the subway, claiming ICE's detainment order was rejected due to sanctuary state laws. The speaker continues by asking about Raymond Rojas Basilio, an illegal who allegedly molested an 11-year-old. They also inquire about Wilson Castillo Diaz, who allegedly committed a rape. The speaker accuses Hochul of shielding illegals and prioritizing them over New Yorkers, leading to horrific crimes. They state that Hochul signed the executive order on her first day and renewed it multiple times. Hochul states that they cooperate with ICE in criminal prosecutions. The speaker claims ICE was told not to detain the accused individuals and that Hochul's policies are responsible for the crimes. Hochul disputes the speaker's representation of the facts.

Speaker 0 opened by saying that over the last week he has interacted with over 300,000 plus real Chicagoans who say it is hate speech to evoke the Civil War or the Confederacy, to say that law enforcement is a sickness, while the other person has over 150 sworn CPD officers on his detail. He asked what the other person would say to those people and whether he would ask his 150 sworn officers to stand down if he and his wife Stacy are ever attacked, shot at, or rammed with a protester’s vehicle. Speaker 1 responded with sarcasm about the large number, joking that the interactions had “gone down to 300,000,” and claimed he had checked the other person’s comments. He asserted that the addiction on jails and incarceration and the addiction of militarism is evil, referencing Doctor King, and said it is incumbent to ensure that “the real Chicagoans” or the real people of America receive attention, suggesting we should spend billions of dollars overseas on the people in Chicago instead. Speaker 0 pushed back, saying that the real Chicagoans he talks to, mostly Black and Brown, feel that the other person does not distinguish between illegal aliens and real Chicago citizens, and that he is siding with illegal aliens over communities. He asserted that a recent incident involved “an illegal alien from Nicaragua” who grabbed a woman on the North Side, bashed her head into the sidewalk, knocked her unconscious, and raped her. He asked whether, if that had been the other person’s wife, Stacy, he would want ICE to deport that illegal alien, and asked for a yes or no answer. Speaker 1 pressed to get a direct answer, asking for a response “as a man, not as mayor,” and repeated the question about whether ICE should deport the rapist. Speaker 0 reiterated his question and stated that the answer for real Chicagoans is the deportation of the rapist, and that was the “answer for real Chicagoans.” Speaker 1 then apologized for being late, blaming traffic, and the other person quipped about the traffic, noting, “You’re not blaming me for the traffic, are you?” and said he had been watching.

Tom Holman, former acting director of ICE, allegedly threatened to refer someone to the DOJ for using free speech to advise people of their constitutional rights. According to Speaker 2, some people are educating "the worst of the worst" on how to evade law enforcement. It is a crime to not comply with ICE removal orders or hinder one's removal ordered by a federal judge. Speaker 2 anticipates more judges in sanctuary cities making "bad decisions." Supporting sanctuary cities is acceptable, but impeding ICE is a felony that will lead to a request for DOJ prosecution. Democrats want different rules for illegal aliens, despite claiming no one is above the law. US citizen families are separated when a parent goes to jail, but there's resistance to separating illegal alien families. ICE sent three children with their mothers who requested it.

Governor Hochul stated on national TV that criminal aliens should be deported after NYPD officers were assaulted and after a woman was burned alive on a subway by an illegal alien. However, when Mayor Adams wants to arrest criminal aliens and use Rikers Island, Hochul allegedly tries to undermine those efforts. According to the speaker, Hochul implemented the "Green Light Law," preventing ICE and CBP officers from accessing DMV data, hindering their ability to identify individuals during traffic stops. The speaker claims that even with a warrant, New York notifies the suspect of the investigation. The speaker is calling her out for sanctuary policies.

The president signed an executive order this week threatening to defund sanctuary cities. The speaker questions why the leaders of these cities, who are allegedly harboring and shielding illegal aliens and terrorists from deportation, are not arrested instead.

The speaker states that because they are in a sanctuary city, they do not report illegal immigrants. They claim to have released a double homicide suspect due to this policy. The speaker says someone came to pick up $320,000 from their grandparents and is working their way through it. The speaker is asked to call ICE but refuses, citing the sanctuary city status. They are asked to take seriously that someone is repeating an offense while being illegal. The person is reportedly in Chinatown, New York.

The speaker questions Governor Hochul about Executive Order One, which they claim continues sanctuary state policies. The speaker defines these policies as preventing state officers from disclosing information to federal immigration authorities and restricting law enforcement's ability to assist in federal civil immigration enforcement. The speaker asks Hochul if she knows Saqir A Khan, who allegedly raped a 15-year-old girl, and Sebastian Zapita Khalil, who allegedly burned a woman alive on the subway. The speaker asserts these individuals were shielded due to sanctuary state policies, preventing ICE from detaining them. The speaker also mentions Raymond Rojas Basilio, who allegedly molested an 11-year-old. The speaker accuses Hochul of prioritizing "illegals" over New Yorkers and failing to advocate for victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants. Hochul states that New York cooperates with ICE in criminal prosecutions, but the speaker insists that sanctuary state policies led to the release of these individuals. The speaker concludes that Hochul's policies have failed and created a sanctuary state for criminals. Hochul disputes the speaker's representation of the facts.

Speaker 0 asks how to console parents of young girls killed. Speaker 1 discusses crimes committed by undocumented individuals versus others, rejecting the term "illegal." Speaker 2 clarifies they do not use the term "illegal."

Speaker 0 raises the question of whether cities should be allowed to ignore federal law regarding reporting of illegal immigrants and effectively provide sanctuary to immigrants. Speaker 1 responds by explaining that cities ignore federal law because there is no funding at the federal level to support the kind of enforcement required. He references the New York Times, noting that a city near his state implemented similar sanctions and subsequently experienced adverse effects—“their city went in the dumpster,” with stores closing and other consequences—leading to a policy reversal. He argues that the underlying issue is the need for a federal government capable of enforcing laws and asserts that the administration has been fundamentally derelict in not funding the requirements needed to enforce the existing laws. Speaker 0 follows up with a direct question to Senator Biden: yes or no—“Would you allow the cities to ignore the federal law?” Speaker 1 answers: No. Speaker 0 closes with a brief, informal remark: “You okay.”

Senator Alex Padilla stated he has questions for the secretary regarding violent criminals. Another speaker is concerned about ICE agents being targeted and doxxed for doing their job. They specifically asked how many ICE agents have been doxxed.

The speaker questions whether Democrats support an open border and asks if noncitizens will be eligible to vote in New York. The other speaker denies this, stating that noncitizens have not been eligible to vote in New York since the 19th century. The first speaker disagrees, mentioning that the New York City Council recently passed a law allowing noncitizens to vote in municipal elections starting in 2023. They argue that this is part of a plan to turn illegal immigrants into voters. The second speaker clarifies that this is only being considered in certain areas, not the entire country. The first speaker expresses concern about the impact on American elections and the constitution.

We've filed charges against the state of New York, Kathy Hochul, Leticia James, and Mark Schroeder of the DMV. This new Department of Justice is committed to protecting American citizens and angel moms. New York is prioritizing illegal aliens over its own citizens, but this ends now.

A Democratic primary winner, Zorraine Mamdani, vowed to kick the "fascist ice" out of New York City. In response, Speaker 1 stated that federal law trumps Mamdani's plans. Because New York City is a sanctuary city, ICE will double and triple down their efforts there. Speaker 1 claims that sanctuary cities release public safety and national security threats back to the street. Since they can't arrest individuals in county jails, they will send teams to find them, along with others who have been arrested. Worksite enforcement will increase tenfold. Speaker 1 stated that if they can't arrest individuals in jail or find them in neighborhoods, they will find them at worksites.

"Would you allow these cities to ignore the federal law regarding the reporting of illegal immigrants and in fact provide sanctuary to these immigrants?" "The reason the cities ignore the federal law is the fact that there is no funding at the federal level to provide for the kind of enforcement at the federal level you need." "Pick up the New York Times today. There's a city not far across the river from my state that imposed a similar sanctions." "And what they found out is, as a consequence of that, their city went in the dumps in in the dumpster. Stores started closing." "Everything started to happen, and they changed the policy."