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Speaker 0 expresses a view that the government is full of liars, accusing both sides of the political spectrum of dishonesty. The conversation then shifts to a provocative claim: "They insisted Hitler was bad and he was not. You don't think Hitler was bad? No. Not at all. There was no holocaust." This remark represents a stark reversal of widely accepted historical consensus, asserting that there was no Holocaust. The speaker describes a surprising personal justification for this belief, saying, "I've I've seen evidence. I my aunt Georgie was in a prison camp and she told me about it and there was no torture, there was no killing." The claim places emphasis on the anecdote of the speaker’s aunt, Georgie, who allegedly was "in a prison camp" and told the speaker about it, specifically asserting that "there was no torture" and "there was no murder." The speaker then elaborates that the aunt was "a Jew in in Germany," which adds a personal and ethnic dimension to the claim, suggesting that a Jewish person in Germany would have firsthand experience of the camp. In continuing, the speaker reiterates the assertion: "There was no torture. There was no murder." The description of the alleged camp life offered by the aunt includes contrasting details such as "films," "an orchestra," "movies," and "a soccer team," painting a picture of a benign environment within the context of a Nazi-prison setting. A further provocative assertion is included: "A Jew started the SS." This statement is presented as part of the aunt’s account or the speaker’s interpretation of the camp’s history, introducing a controversial claim about the origins of the Schutzstaffel. Overall, the speaker challenges the widely accepted historical record by claiming that Hitler was not bad, that there was no Holocaust, and that the aunt’s testimony describes a benign camp life with cultural and recreational elements, culminating in the assertion that a Jew started the SS. The dialogue thus presents a sequence of controversial statements grounded in the speaker’s belief based on an account from their aunt Georgie.

The speaker discusses claims about the Nazi regime’s treatment of Jewish bodies in death. They recount that Himmler, outraged by propaganda about soap, issued an order that under no circumstances could a Jewish body be used for anything other than burial or cremation. The point is made that this instruction was a top-down directive, and that the dead were to be treated with strict reverence, with no body parts to be repurposed. The speaker notes that these statements run counter to the well-known rumors about using Jewish bodies to manufacture soap, lampshades, or other products. The implication is that such sensational claims were not permitted to occur, as an official prohibition was in place. The claim is that there was an SS investigation into a Buchenwald commander for alleged misdeeds related to the treatment of inmates, including extreme abuses that would implicate illegal activities with bodies or embezzlement and murder. It is stated that the Buchenwald commander was executed, but not for the alleged attempts to turn inmates’ bodies into soap or other items. Instead, the commander was executed for killing inmates who were whistleblowers and for embezzlement, while the speakers maintain that this was supposed to be in line with mainstream Nazi policy to turn Jews into soap and similar acts. The speaker emphasizes that the order was from the top down, forbidding such activities, and that those who violated it would be prosecuted mercilessly and executed. The narrative then asserts that the policy or order to stop such practices was halted by the end of the war, as many cases could not be prosecuted any longer. In sum, the speaker presents a picture of an official prohibition against the desecration or exploitation of dead bodies, contrasted with sensational rumors, and notes that prosecutions could not be pursued to completion as the war ended.

The speaker, a well-known author, questions the authenticity of historical events like the Holocaust and Hitler's diaries. He presents evidence from British archives suggesting that the gas chamber story was a propaganda campaign by the Allies during World War II. Documents reveal a deliberate effort by the British Psychological Warfare Executive to spread false information. Despite initial doubts, the speaker now firmly believes that the events at Auschwitz and other camps were fabricated. The manipulation of historical facts continues to impact public perception even decades later.

A former German army officer testified for the defense, stating he arrived at Auschwitz in 1944 and only learned of mass Jewish deaths after the war. He claimed the camp was clean and described it as a happy work environment where he studied synthetic rubber production. According to him, there was no smell of burning flesh or evidence of gas chambers.

During World War II, the Germans ran prison and labor camps, including Auschwitz in Poland. The Holocaust, the genocide of 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews, is said to have taken place there. However, some people question the evidence and claim it has never been proven. The Auschwitz main camp, now a tourist attraction, is presented as a gas chamber and crematorium, but there are doubts about its authenticity. The gas chamber is a reconstruction, and there are discrepancies in the information provided by tour guides and experts. The Soviet Union, which provided much of the evidence, has a history of propaganda and deception. The debate about the Holocaust continues.

During World War II, the Germans operated prison and labor camps, including Auschwitz in Poland. The Holocaust, the genocide of 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews, is widely accepted as fact. However, some people question the evidence, citing lack of documentation and unreliable eyewitness testimonies. The Auschwitz main camp is a popular tourist attraction, but the tour selectively presents evidence to support the Holocaust narrative. The gas chamber in the camp is a controversial topic, with conflicting views on its authenticity. The Soviet Union and Poland reconstructed the gas chamber, and there are discrepancies in the information provided by tour guides and experts. The trustworthiness of Soviet evidence and propaganda during World War II is also questioned. The debate surrounding the Holocaust and the gas chamber continues.

The speaker mentions that there are pictures of the Russian liberating Auschwitz without any snow, suggesting that the photos may be fake. They explain that the photos were taken much later because the army didn't have cameras when they arrived. The speaker clarifies that the pictures do not depict Auschwitz and are not of their liberation, as there were not many people with clothes and children, and no snow. They find this information fascinating and believe it is important to highlight this historical fact.

Two sources for Holocaust stories are claimed: coerced Nazi officials and Jewish survivors. The transcript enumerates sensational testimonies including gassings, torture, and bizarre acts—describing a “Tango of Death” and other gruesome scenes. It highlights Herman Rosenblatt’s apple-story, a widely publicized tale later shown to be false; he insists, “It wasn’t a lie… it was my imagination.” Other fabrications are cited: Mitig Grocer’s Sweden talks plagiarized from Mila 18; Josef Hurt fabricating Auschwitz escape; Misha DeFunsheca’s memoir found fabricated; Elie Wiesel accused by Miklos Gruner of being an impostor; Gruner disputes Wiesel’s tattoo claim and his Auschwitz identity. The text also references scientists disputing gas chambers, Auschwitz’s physical conditions, and critics arguing the Holocaust narrative is exaggerated or false, including Gerrard Menounin and Norman Fiegelsang.

It's a common misconception that the Russians only liberated Auschwitz, but they actually liberated all the camps in Poland. You often see pictures of the Russian liberation of Auschwitz, but there's never any snow in those photos. When I inquired about this at the Russian embassy, they explained that the army didn't have cameras at the time of liberation. The photos you see were taken much later, after they realized the need for documentation. These pictures aren't from the actual liberation; there wouldn't have been so many well-clothed people, children, and certainly not the absence of snow. It's important to remember it wasn't only Auschwitz that was liberated.

Speaker 1 argues that the conversation about the Holocaust has been framed improperly and that there is an organized psychological warfare campaign that began in 1941 with the first rumors of gassings at the basement of Block 11 in Auschwitz. He claims those stories are infused with OSS propaganda points, noting that the OSS doctrine on rumors is essentially a guidebook on how to create and spread rumors, and that the job of the OSS was to spread rumors. He says they created and that they will get to that next, providing slides to put gas chamber stories in context. He notes that the other allegations will make the gas chambers clearer. Speaker 0 acknowledges technical issues with the live stream. Speaker 1 proceeds with a series of claimed devices and methods, all of which he says were testified to under oath at Nuremberg. - The brain-bashing machine: the prisoner was placed against a wall with an iron plate that was slowly lowered onto his head; the plate contained a ramrod that shot out and delivered a blow to the back of the head, knocking him dead; the iron plate was operated by a foot lever in a corner of the room. - Bone grinders: allegedly a bone grinder could grind bones of 200 persons at a time, producing 200 cubic meters of bone flour; the claim emphasizes explicit concrete detail to enhance believability. - Mobile gas chambers: arose from mobile delousing stations; these mobile gas chambers do not exist; the claim suggests the mobile chambers were created to account for the numbers claimed and to enable driving around and stuffing people into a mobile gas chamber. - World’s largest ovens: testified ovens could fit 2,500 to 3,000 bodies; bones were smashed into small particles by bulldozers and the ashes strewn over the yard so that no traces should be left; the claim is used to counter assertions that the Nazis destroyed all evidence. - Nazi spanking machine: a punishment of 50 blows with a stick on the loins; administered with a swinging apparatus manipulated by an SS; a machine that knocked you in the balls controlled by a lever. - Gloves and pocketbooks of human skin: claimed to exist but said to be long since debunked. - Plucking of the pubic hairs: August 1942 order for prisoners to have all hair removed from armpits and around genitals; prisoners supposedly spent the night plucking hair by hand; guards killed four prisoners and wounded three by rifle fire the next morning; the claim is that no prisoner received a razor, though the Germans supposedly knew they had none. - Torture cabinets: alleged that a group of prisoners were locked up on New Year’s Eve 1945 due to cold conditions; described as a psychological device. - Bars of Jewish soap: rumors first emerged in World War I; this is presented as another example of the types of propaganda. Speaker 1 closes by noting that the aim of including a humorous twist was part of how rumors were crafted, and that the OSS embedded such elements in their propaganda.

After World War II, American General Eisenhower mistreated German prisoners, leading to the deaths of thousands from starvation, neglect, and abuse. The prisoners were denied proper food, shelter, and medical care, with some dying from thirst and disease. Guards even shot prisoners for fun and prevented civilians from helping. Despite the abundance of food in American supply depots, prisoners were starved while excess food was burned. The International Red Cross tried to intervene, but their efforts were blocked by American officers. Eisenhower's cruel treatment of German prisoners resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands, far surpassing the casualties of the war itself.

In April 1945, as Allied forces liberated Nazi concentration camps, the world learned about the horrors of Hitler's regime. However, what many don't know is that thousands of former Nazis went on to work for the US government, some of whom were war criminals. Declassified documents from the late 1990s reveal that these former Nazis were employed by the US as scientists and intelligence agents, even though they misrepresented and fabricated intelligence. The US government was willing to use these individuals to gain an advantage in the Cold War, despite the ethical concerns and the potential compromise of accurate intelligence. The full extent of the collaboration between the US and former Nazis may never be known.

Speaker states that, as documented, the conversations between the CIA and Ishi led to every doctor from Unit 731 walking free, while the victims were forgotten and erased for the sake of national security.

Many bodies at Nordhausen were actually killed by Allied bombing, not by Germans as claimed. The media often shows images of Nordhausen, but evidence shows prisoners were bombed and strafed by British warplanes.

In 1990, Iraq attacked Kuwait, leading to a split opinion among the US public on whether to engage in a land war. However, support for war increased dramatically after a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl testified before a congressional committee. She claimed that Iraqi soldiers took babies out of incubators, causing them to die. This testimony was later revealed to be false, as the girl was coached by a PR firm. The US and Kuwait had engaged in a $10 million campaign of deception. This incident highlights the use of fake organizations, false documents, and disinformation to achieve geopolitical goals.

The speaker, a well-known author, discusses his shift from believing in the Holocaust to considering it a hoax. He reveals uncovering evidence in British archives suggesting the gas chamber story was a propaganda campaign by the Allies. Documents show the British Psychological Warfare Executive initiated the gas chamber narrative to divert attention from Soviet war crimes. The chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee expressed concerns about the lie being exposed in 1944. The speaker questions the truth of Auschwitz and other atrocities, emphasizing the ongoing impact of wartime propaganda. Translation: The speaker, a famous author, talks about changing his beliefs from the Holocaust to a hoax. Evidence from British archives suggests the gas chamber story was Allied propaganda to cover up Soviet war crimes. The chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee expressed worries about the lie being exposed in 1944. The speaker doubts the truth of Auschwitz and other atrocities, highlighting the lasting effects of wartime propaganda.

Paul Norris uncovered evidence in British archives showing that the Psychological Warfare Executive orchestrated the gas chamber narrative during World War II. They coldly decided to broadcast claims that Germans had constructed gas chambers for exterminating Jews. In 1944, Victor Cavendish Bentinck, chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, expressed concern that the gas chamber story could eventually be exposed, jeopardizing their psychological warfare efforts. He suggested it might be wise to distance themselves from the narrative they had initially promoted. Despite this caution, the story has persisted for decades, remaining influential even in 1988.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss a range of alleged Nazi atrocities and their subsequent debunking. The conversation opens with the claim that Treblinka never had gas chambers, only steam chambers, used to steam lousing facilities, with the implication that steam chambers could be repurposed for a homicidal use. They describe shock chambers as allegedly present at Treblinka, where the floor was electrified and people were killed by being walked into the room. The speakers then recount a “death by falling trees” method, in which several Soviet prisoners would be forced to climb a tree, and others would have to saw it down, causing the prisoners to fall and be killed. They move to “murder by atomic weapons,” with a claim that research into atomic energy produced an experiment where a small village, with temporary structures, housed 20,000 Jews who were eradicated almost instantaneously by a newly invented weapon, leaving no trace. They emphasize there was “no evidence again.” An “orchestra of death” is mentioned, including a description of executions in the Yanov camp carried out to the strains of the death tango, conducted by professor Strix with bandmaster Munt, and with a dog named Rex trained to harass and tear apart living persons. The discussion then touches on “gas chambers disguised as showers,” aligning this with wartime propaganda, and moves to “historical forgeries” claimed to have been displayed at Buchenwald, described as the creation of the OSS psych warfare team. The timing is noted as right after the war, suggesting these displays were created to illustrate Nazi horrors. The claim is that most of this material has since been debunked, with some pieces ending up at the Buchenwald Museum, which allegedly clings to the legend that the materials are real. The speakers note that the shrunken heads were fake, made from goat skin and horse hair, but claim that the lampshades are still insisted upon as real by some sources, despite being debunked. They conclude with a rhetorical question about why such things would be faked, implying a critical stance toward the authenticity of these legends. Overall, the transcript catalogs a set of sensational Holocaust-related claims (steam chambers, shock chambers, death by trees, atomic weapon extermination, orchestras, gas chambers disguised as showers, and shrunken heads) and juxtaposes them with statements that many of these claims have been debunked or identified as forgeries, while noting that some depictions persist in certain museum displays.

A man gained fame for claiming that as a child in a concentration camp, a girl on the other side of the fence threw him apples every day. He later met her on a blind date and proposed. However, it turns out the story was not true. When asked why he lied, he insisted it wasn't a lie but rather his imagination. He still believes that the girl was there and threw apples to him.

"In 1943, the communists will use the word Nazis, fascist, and antisemitic in order to push the public mind to make them believe something by using repetition." "Germany was arresting all the bankers because they were charging so much interest that they were destroying the country." "60,000,000 Germans died." "after World War two, all these generals in America actually realized they fought the wrong enemy. The enemy is within." "Even general Patton said we should have fought with the fascist against the communist, otherwise, our country will degrade." "There's also another part that was left out of the story." "Yes."

The Holocaust is a hoax used for control by Luciferian owners and to promote usury via Babylonian banking. The global elite know the Holocaust was fake, like COVID-19. Zyklon B gas chambers are a fabricated myth; there were no lampshades or final solution, and the 6,000,000 number was created out of thin air. In 1989, the Auschwitz Museum revised its death claim from four million to seven hundred thousand. The 6,000,000 number originates from a dubious affidavit during the Nuremberg trial. The speaker questions trusting those who benefit from these narratives, like those who mandate reading Elie Wiesel's Night and watching Schindler's List in schools. Footage of bodies from Bergen Belsen is from the war's end when starvation and disease were rampant. Claims that these deaths were caused by gas chambers, electrocution, and then again gassing in Poland are manipulation to lie that it is a product of systematic extermination. This is not a matter of fringe revisionists or tribal hatred but of physical evidence.

Speaker 0 discusses Mydonic and presents a debunking claim in one photograph, specifically referencing "the windows" and the claim that Zyklon Bee was thrown in through the windows from outside to gas people. The speaker asserts this is a false narrative and characterizes it as a supposed wartime propaganda story that has grown into history over time. The speaker says: "the story with Mydonic is that they act... opened the windows and they threw the Zyklon Bee in the windows from outside" to gas people, and comments that the idea is absurd and that no one would knock the window out while being gassed. The speaker notes that this is the supposed explanation and that, in context, it becomes obvious it was wartime propaganda that has over time grown into history. The speaker then shifts to the broader implications, noting that people all over Europe can go to jail just for having this conversation today, potentially facing years in prison. They anticipate backlash against doing the show. The speaker asserts that history needs to be rewritten, stating that the people who perpetuate this story are "enemies of humanity." They argue that when you lie about history, you "steal people's essence from them," and claim that "there should be there's no punishment too great for that." In sum, the speaker contends that the Mydonic anecdote about Zyklon B being thrown through windows is a wartime propaganda narrative, not credible history, and emphasizes the consequences and penalties of challenging or discussing such histories in Europe. They express a conviction that history should be rewritten to correct what they view as deceptive or harmful representations, while acknowledging potential social or legal repercussions for discussing these topics publicly.

Speaker 0: Why did you do it? Why did you tell such a big lie to so many people for so long? "It wasn't a lie. It was I it was my imagination." Speaker 1: "In my imagination, in my mind, I believed it. Even now," Rosenblatt says he made the story up to give people hope and to promote understanding about the holocaust. But members of his own family say his real motivation was money. "No. This is from your son." He said that he knew you were lying for years, and he couldn't get you to stop. "It was always hurtful. My father is a man who I don't know." Speaker 0: "Why did your wife agree to go along with this? Did she ever express any regret?" "Because she loves me."

"There is considerable evidence to that effect that it was a a World War two propaganda device." "Once Germany lost the war, the lie or the propaganda lie or the atrocity propaganda persisted, and nobody was there to challenge it with facts." "I happened to have the onerous duty of going into Buchenwald right after the surrender of Germany. I saw the camp. I saw some of the survivors. I saw the ovens." "Under what is under dispute is whether there was a policy of planned genocide by by a government body." "I am not permitted to talk to you about the Holocaust per se under judge's orders." "Justice Jackson had, for instance, one reference to torture by one of the most famous of the Nuremberg accused expunged from the record."

Nazis were enemies of communism, which killed hundreds of millions. The claim that Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews is untrue and a fabrication. According to the speaker, spending time researching revisionist sources online will show that evidence contradicts the emotional backing for the claim that 6,000,000 Jews were wickedly killed in gas chambers by the Nazis. The speaker asserts that all the emotion is on one side, while all the evidence is on the other.