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There are rumors of three popes: the white pope, the black pope, and the gray pope. The white pope leads the Vatican church, the black pope leads the society of Jesuits, and the gray pope, also known as Pepe Orsini, is part of a powerful bloodline called the black nobility. This family has been controlling the world for centuries, even dating back to Babylonian times. They currently head the Illuminati and have influence over the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. However, this information is not widely known.

I founded the Jesuits on August 15, 1534, and the Pope later sanctioned us. We were created to stand against the Reformation and to destroy it. I wanted the order to champion Catholic unity and ensure submission to the Pope. There are interesting analogies between Masonic and Jesuit degrees. Jesuits obey as a corpse, seeing Christ in the general's person, even obeying a dog as if it were Jesus if ordered. The Jesuit oath swears allegiance to the Pope as Christ's representative, granting him power to dispose of heretical rulers and destroy non-subject governments. Jesuits vow to eradicate heretical Protestant or liberal doctrines, promising to obey without personal opinions and wage war against heretics to exterminate them from the earth, sparing no one.

Klaus Schwab and the International Finance family are accused of working with Pope Francis to dismantle traditional society and the church. The Jesuits are seen as playing a key role in this conspiracy, as a Jesuit is now Pope for the first time in history.

I've uncovered a secret Justice Department memo outlining plans to target 12 new "perversions," including bestiality and pedophilia. This memo details strategies to undermine churches, pastors, and businesses that assert their religious freedom. The LGBT movement is just the beginning; they plan to expand to other perversions. So, you're saying you are aware of a Justice Department memo that says there will be an effort to legitimize bestiality, pedophilia, and other perversions? That's correct. They're coming down with twelve new perversions, expanding beyond the LGBT movement. Nothing surprises me anymore.

I founded the Jesuits on August 15, 1534, and the Pope sanctioned us on September 27, 1540. We were created to stand against the Reformation and destroy it. I wanted the order to champion Catholic unity and submission to the Pope. There's a considerable analogy between Masonic and Jesuit degrees. Jesuits obey as a corpse, seeing Christ in the person of their general. The famous Jesuit oath states that the Pope is Christ's vice-regent and has the power to dispose of heretical kings, princes, and governments that are not subject to Rome. A Jesuit swears to help extirpate heretical, Protestant, or liberal doctrines and make war secretly or openly against all heretics to exterminate them from the face of the earth, sparing no one.

The speaker believes the Vatican is the most serious evil organization on Earth. They claim the Knights of Malta, who were all Catholic, founded the CIA. They allege that founders and current leaders of banking establishments like Bank of America and Union Bank are Knights of Malta and Catholic Masons. The speaker states that European kings and rulers ruled by divine right, which they attribute to the Pope. They claim the Pope appoints families to rule over different nations because the Pope represents God and designates certain families as holy, thus giving them the right to rule by divine right.

**Caller:** I was listening to your show and came across an article saying you're a Freemason. I know Masons do good things, but they're at the head of every global organization, so how is the world in such bad shape? I'm not joining because of this. **Speaker:** I have Masonic roots, but I've never been part of a lodge. My family was heavily involved. Freemasonry is just a university study of religions, philosophy, building, math, and agrarian systems. The Illuminati was a counter to the real Illuminati, like Francis Bacon, before the modern version. This country was founded by real Rosicrucians. I come from a classical enlightenment family—real Illuminati. There are no secret societies, just freedom, Jesus Christ, free markets, family, and the will to fight tyrants. Globalists have hijacked the idea of a new Atlantis and are selling the opposite of what this country was founded on.

Speaker asserts, "The Bush regime was front for the Vatican" and calls "the Vatican" "the most important enemy this country has today." He asks, "What do you think the founding fathers... they came from Europe," noting that "the people who founded this country, they came from Europe." He adds, "Well, twenty five hundred years Rome under the Caesars of Rome and then after the fall of the Caesars in the fourth century and with the coming of the Vatican in the fifth century." He states, "All of Europe has been dominated for over two thousand five hundred years by Rome and Europe has dominated the world for two thousand five hundred years." He warns, "You better start looking at the Holy father, and you better start finding out the connection between the Vatican and the Nazi party."

- Speaker 0 expresses humility before the Knights of Malta, describing the order as ancient and its history as a calling that prompts gratitude rather than pride. - Speaker 1 asserts that the Vatican is the “most serious evil organization on the face of the earth” and connects the Knights of Malta to the founders of the CIA in America, noting that six founders were Catholics and members of the Knights of Malta; he claims that banking families and institutions in the U.S. (Bank of America, Union Bank in California) were started and are run by Knights of Malta, Catholic Masons, and that European rulers rule by “divine right” granted by the Pope. - Speaker 2 expands on this by describing the Pope as representing God, and claims the Pope designates certain families to rule in France, Germany, and Britain, with the Pope’s authority underpinning “divine right.” - Speaker 2 notes Archbishop Edward Cardinal Egan of New York as a knight of Malta heading all three tongues of the Knights of Malta in the United States, overseen by Jesuits of Fordham University, mentioning Avery Cardinal Dulles (son of John Foster Dulles) as a knight of Malta who, as a Jesuit, allegedly oversaw Cardinal Egan in a conspiracy to bring down the World Trade Center and bomb the Pentagon, with George J. Tennant as a central figure who allegedly received the presidential Medal of Freedom. - Speaker 3 claims the deep state is above governments, consisting of the Rothschilds and the Vatican (including both the Black Pope and the White Pope) as well as Chabad Jews, using Freemasons and the Knights of Malta as fixers, with World Banks as their managers. - Speaker 4 describes the Knights of Malta as a Christian Masonic degree emphasizing Christian virtues, noting their diplomatic immunity and the ability to import/export goods without customs, and that they cannot be arrested or charged by law enforcement. - Speaker 5 supports this, saying members carry diplomatic passports, and that the order began as citizens of the United States of America. - Speaker 6 discusses the Templars creating banking and usury, contrasting with other claims about Jewish bankers, and asserts the Rothschilds are “keepers of the Vatican treasury,” wearing Maltese crosses, and that Rome needed Jewish bankers to be the bankers, with the Maltese cross as a symbol tied to the Vatican and Rome. - Speaker 7 points to Epstein in a claimed image bowing before Pope John Paul II, describing the Maltese cross as an insignia of a knight of the Catholic Church and tying it to Nazi-era symbols; they also connect Adolf Hitler to Jesuit influence and the funding of the Third Reich, naming Franz von Papen as a knight of Malta. - Speaker 8 references the Rothschilds again, the Vatican’s connection to World War II and the Jesuits, and asserts that the Third Reich and Holocaust were birthed by Rome and the Jesuits; mentions the connection between Napoleon’s campaigns and Jesuit guidance, and alleges the Knights of Malta, Teutonic Knights, and other Catholic orders influenced 20th-century events. - Speaker 9 claims the papacy is a military operation, with archbishops and cardinals as military officers under the Jesuit general and the papal guard; notes that the FCC leadership includes a Knight of Malta on the board and that Jesuit influence pervades U.S. institutions. - Speaker 11 asserts that P2 Freemasonry is tied to Opus Dei and the Knights of Malta, describes P2 as promoting right-wing death squads and drug cartels, and alleges Vatican CIA involvement, with the Vatican owning the Watergate Hotel and the CIA conducting dirty work there to remove Nixon. - Speaker 12 and others interject on love and marriage while reinforcing the overarching conspiracy framework, including references to the Knights of Malta, the Jesuits, the Crown, and various symbols linked to Catholic power, while claiming decades of hidden influence over global events.

The speaker asks the Attorney General if the Justice Department cultivates sources and spies in Latin Mass parishes and other Catholic parishes. The speaker references a document that explores developing tripwires and sources against traditionalist Catholics, including those who favor the Latin Mass. The Attorney General calls the document appalling, states the Justice Department does not investigate based on religion, and says the FBI has withdrawn the document and is looking into how this happened. The speaker claims the memorandum cites the Southern Poverty Law Center to identify Catholics as part of hate groups and asks if the FBI uses left-wing advocacy groups to target Catholics. The Attorney General denies the FBI targets Catholics and says the memorandum is inappropriate and doesn't reflect FBI methods, stating they shouldn't rely on single organizations without doing their own work. The speaker asks how many informants are in Catholic churches across America. The Attorney General doesn't know but doesn't believe there are any informants aimed at Catholic churches, citing a rule against investigations based on First Amendment activity. The speaker accuses the Justice Department of targeting Catholics for their faith views.

The Bush regime was front for the Vatican. The most important enemy this country has today. The founding fathers came from Europe. Twenty five hundred years Rome under the Caesars of Rome and then after the fall of the Caesars in the fourth century and with the coming of the Vatican in the fifth century. All of Europe has been dominated for over two thousand five hundred years by Rome and Europe has dominated the world for two thousand five hundred years. You better start looking at the Holy father, and you better start finding out the connection between the Vatican and the Nazi party of Adolf.

Speaker 1 asks if the Jesuit order is connected to the Illuminati or Freemasonry, or if it is an arm of the Catholic Church. Speaker 0 explains that long before Adam Weishaupt, the Jesuit order originated from a branch of the Illuminati called the Ilumbrados in Spain. Ignatius Loyola, the head of the Ilumbrados, received permission from the Pope to start a new order called the Society of Jesus, or the Jesuit order. They have immense power, practice liberation theology, and have been involved in revolutions and chaos worldwide. Speaker 1 asks if they are in competition with the Illuminati, to which Speaker 0 responds that they are the Illuminati.

The speaker claims that Freemasonry is a satanic secret society that deceives people. They allege that Lucifer is the god of this realm, and his power is demonstrated through witchcraft, which is practiced by Freemasons. Bob Dylan, according to the speaker, admitted to making a bargain with Lucifer. The speaker connects JK Rowling's work to Masonic symbolism, citing the "Solve Coagula" tattoo and the Deathly Hallows symbol. They claim the Baphomet statue at the Satanic Temple represents Rowling's religion. The speaker asserts that Freemasonry and Satanism are intertwined, pointing to politicians displaying "devil's horns" and the rituals of Skull and Bones. They interpret Stanley Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" as exposing a satanic secret society. Anton LaVey is quoted stating that Masonic orders have contained the most influential men in many governments. The speaker concludes that Freemasonry is Satanism in disguise, cloaked in Christian trappings, and controls the media and education system. John F. Kennedy was assassinated for trying to expose a monolithic conspiracy.

Pope Francis recently sparked controversy by allegedly making a shocking statement about Jesus during a Christmas Eve ceremony at an Italian prison, suggesting he hopes Jesus would be killed by Jews again. This event involved a symbolic ritual, interpreted by some as satanic, where the pope opened a "portal of darkness." Critics argue that Francis is leading the Church astray, promoting a globalist agenda, and undermining traditional Christian values. He has also been accused of supporting depopulation efforts and fostering interfaith relations that challenge biblical teachings. Allegations of his connections with influential global figures raise further concerns about his true intentions. Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò has labeled him a false prophet, claiming he collaborates with globalist agendas to dismantle traditional society and the Church itself.

Speaker 0 asks if the belief that the person is secretly saving the world from a satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals is something they support. Speaker 1 responds that they haven't heard that before, but if it means helping to save the world, they are willing to do it. They believe they are saving the world from a radical left philosophy that would destroy the country, and emphasize the importance of the country as a leader for the rest of the world.

The speaker, Peter, asks if the Jesuit order is connected to and controlled by the Illuminati or Freemasonry, or if it is an arm of the Catholic Church. The other speaker explains that long ago in Spain, a branch of the Illuminati called the Ilumbrados existed. The head of the Ilumbrados, Ignatius Loyola, was arrested by the inquisition but managed to get an audience with the pope. After this, Loyola was granted permission to start a new order called the Society of Jesus, or the Jesuit order. The Jesuits, also known as the Black Pope, have significant power and are associated with Marxism and liberation theology. They are not in competition with the Illuminati, but rather are the Illuminati.

Speaker 0 questions if the theory of secretly saving the world from a satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals is something Speaker 1 supports. Speaker 1 responds by saying they haven't heard of it, but they are open to the idea of helping to save the world and are willing to put themselves out there.

The speaker asserts that “The Bush regime was front for the Vatican” and that “The most important enemy this country has today, people will never understand it, but the biggest enemy that this nation today has is the Vatican.” They question the origin of the nation’s founders, asking, “What do you think the founding fathers … where did they come from?” and answer, “they came from Europe.” The speaker traces history back to “twenty five hundred years Rome under the Caesars of Rome,” stating that “after the fall of the Caesars in the fourth century and with the coming of the Vatican in the fifth century,” Europe has been dominated for that same span. The claim is then made that “All of Europe has been dominated for over two thousand five hundred years by Rome and Europe has dominated the world for two thousand five hundred years.” The speaker urges listeners to “start looking at the Holy father, and you better start finding out the connection between the Vatican and the Nazi party of Adolf,” tying the Vatican to broader historical influence and power. The overarching assertion is that “The Bush regime was front for the Vatican,” and that the Vatican represents “the most important enemy this country has today.”

- The speaker suggests that becoming an astronaut is possible by studying flying or science, implying you could someday be the first astronaut to walk on the moon, but then challenges that claim by saying there already was an astronaut who first walked on the moon, stating “Well, no. Not really. That wasn't real.” - The speaker asserts that during the Cold War, in order to beat the Russians, the moon landing was faked, claiming that “That never happened.” - The speaker draws attention to a wreckage image, asking, “See how there's no windows on the side and see underneath where there's like a pod thing? What's that?” - The speaker describes a wreckage observation: “Take a look at this wreckage. See how there's no plane parts on the ground there? What does that look like? A metho.” - The speaker asserts that President Bush was in a secret Yale society called the Skull and Bones, and that his dad was in it too, and that they all worshiped Satan. - The speaker asks, “President Bush worshiped Satan?” and answers, “In my personal opinion, absolutely.”

The speaker discusses the power dynamics of various families and organizations. They claim that the Orsini family, also known as the Rothschilds, are the most powerful and have connections to ancient bloodlines. They mention the Colonna and Farnese families as well. The speaker also suggests that the Jesuits are the top authority, with the Jewish Sanhedrin in collaboration with them. They assert that the Pentagon is owned by the Farnese family and discuss the influence of the Jesuits in various countries and organizations. The speaker concludes by stating that the Jesuits play both sides and co-opt grassroots movements.

Speaker 0 asks what group they are with and then expresses belief in the Holocaust. They question why it is illegal to question the Holocaust in 18 countries. When asked if they think it should be illegal to question the Holocaust, they answer yes. The speaker mentions being in 3 seats and wanting power. They tell someone to leave and make a crude comment about subscribing to someone's beliefs.

The speaker mentions receiving a death threat from Chief Red Cloud and expresses their disapproval of his actions. They discuss the idea of sitting back and praying versus taking action in a spiritual war. They also mention knowing where Chief Red Cloud lives and planning to contact the FBI. The speaker emphasizes the need to recognize the spiritual war they believe is happening. Another speaker shares their experiences of being threatened when preaching about God. The conversation ends with a question about whether the American church is falsely promoting peace.

"The Bush regime was front for the Vatican." "The most important enemy this country has today, people will never understand it, but the biggest enemy that this nation today has is the Vatican." "What do you think the founding fathers, whatever we call them, the founding fathers, where did they come from?" "They came from Europe." "Well, twenty five hundred years Rome under the Caesars of Rome and then after the fall of the Caesars in the fourth century and with the coming of the Vatican in the fifth century." "All of Europe has been dominated for over two thousand five hundred years by Rome and Europe has dominated the world for two thousand five hundred years." "You better start looking at the Holy father, and you better start finding out the connection between the Vatican and the Nazi party of Adolf The Bush regime was front for the Vatican. The Bush regime was front for the Vatican. The most important enemy this country has today."

Speaker 0 argues that conspiracy theories have been made to look like lunacy, noting that the Kennedy assassination popularized the term “conspiracy theorist.” He says it wasn’t widely used before Kennedy, but afterward it became a label for “kooks,” and he’s repeatedly been called that. Speaker 1 acknowledges this dynamic. He and Speaker 0 discuss what a conspiracy is—“more people working together to do something nefarious?”—and Speaker 0 asserts that conspiracies have always happened. He disputes the view that most conspiracies are due to ineptitude, insisting that when there is profit, power, control, and resources involved, most conspiracies, in fact, turn out to be true. He adds that the deeper you dig, the more you realize there’s a concerted effort to make conspiracies seem ridiculous so people won’t be seen as fools. Speaker 1 remarks on the ridicule as well, and Speaker 0 reiterates his own self-description: “I am a conspiracy theorist,” a “foolish person,” and “a professional clown.” He mocks the idea that being labeled foolish is a barrier, and reflects on how others perceive him. Speaker 0 then provides specific, provocative examples of conspiracies he believes are real: Gulf of Tonkin was faked to justify U.S. entry into Vietnam; production of heroin ramped up to 94% of the world’s supply once the U.S. occupied Afghanistan; and the CIA, in the United States, allegedly sold heroin or cocaine in Los Angeles ghettos to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. He states clearly that these claims are real and asserts that there are conspiracy theorists who are “fucking real.” Speaker 1 pushes back on reputation and judgment, and Speaker 0 reaffirms his self-identification as a conspiracy theorist who faces mockery. Speaker 1 suggests that this stance might give him a “superpower.”

The speaker believes the Vatican is the most serious evil organization on Earth. The Knights of Malta gave us the six men who founded the CIA, who were all Catholics. The founders and current leaders of banking fraternities in America, such as Bank of America and Union Bank, are all Knights of Malta and Catholic Masons. All kings and rulers in Europe ruled by the divine right of kings. The Pope represents divine authority and appoints families to rule over different nations. The Pope says certain families are holy and should rule, therefore they rule by divine right.