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Congress passed a law (2 US, code 1970) requiring approval from the Capitol Police Board and congressional leadership in advance for bringing in national guard or federal assistance. The speaker's request for approval was denied twice by Paul Irving and Mike Stenger, who work for Pelosi and McConnell respectively. The denial was due to optics and lack of intelligence support. The speaker finds it unbelievable that they are the only chief of police with a law controlling their ability to protect the capital, even in emergencies. They highlight the absurdity of having to seek approval from the same individuals during an attack.

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At 12:53, the speaker called the Washington DC Police Department for assistance. They requested additional resources on Constitution Avenue to prevent an attack. At 12:58, the speaker called the sergeant in arms for help and a declaration of emergency. They were told to wait for authorization from higher-ups. Over the next 71 minutes, the speaker made 32 calls to various agencies, including the Secret Service. Despite not having official approval, they requested assistance to protect their team. Finally, at 2:09, 71 minutes later, the speaker received approval and immediately informed their colleague. They were frustrated by the delay and marked the time as 2:10.

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President Trump authorized 10,000 National Guard troops before January 6th, but the request was denied by Mayor Bowser and Pelosi. Capitol Police were blamed for not calling in the Guard earlier despite intelligence about a possible attack. There are allegations of a cover-up by Pelosi and Democrats, with claims of evidence being destroyed. Witnesses testify that Trump did authorize the Guard deployment. Calls for criminal referrals for obstruction have been made.

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Congress passed a law requiring the speaker to request federal resources for events like the Capitol attack. The speaker was denied twice by the House and Senate Sergeant Arms due to optics and lack of intelligence support. The speaker had to go through these individuals to request the National Guard, even during the attack. After 71 minutes and 32 calls, the speaker finally received approval. This delay is surprising considering the severity of the situation, and the speaker was frustrated by the delay.

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The transcript centers on discussions about security failures on January 6, 2021, and the steps taken to address them, including the involvement of the House Sergeant at Arms and Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Key points: - Initiating discussions on National Guard: The witness confirms meeting with the House Sergeant at Arms regarding the National Guard prior to January 6. The House Sergeant at Arms was Paul Irving, appointed by Speaker Pelosi at that time. Irving reportedly stated he “didn’t like the optics” when the National Guard was first raised. - Run it up the chain and approval process: On January 6, when the witness sought approval to call in the National Guard, Irving indicated he would “run it up the chain,” understood as the leadership chain, leading toward the Speaker’s office and Speaker Pelosi. The witness clarified that the leadership chain on the House side comprises the top security official and the elected leadership team up to Speaker Pelosi. - How it ends up with Pelosi’s office: The witness stated that running up the chain would likely end with the Speaker’s office and possibly Speaker Pelosi, describing the path as through the speaker’s office. - Three calls with Pelosi on January 6: During a January 7 press conference, Pelosi claimed she had not talked to the witness since the breach and called for the witness’s resignation. The witness asserts that Pelosi’s claim was inaccurate, stating he spoke with Pelosi three times that evening. The three calls were: 1) First call: When the witness went to brief Vice President Pence at the secure location; he briefed Irving about returning to the chambers and the timing. Irving called Pelosi on the witness’s cell phone around 05:34 to have Pelosi on the line. 2) Second call: After walking away from Pence briefing, the witness met with Stenger and headed to brief the Senate. Jennifer Hemingway handed him Emily Barrett’s phone, and Pelosi was on the line as they discussed the information given to Pence about when the Capitol could be back in session; the witness stated he assured Pelosi the information was correct and that the chambers could be reoccupied by 7 PM. The call ended. 3) Third call: While at the Senate, on a cell phone, using another official’s cell line, the witness briefed leadership off-site at a secure location about plans to get them back into chambers. Pelosi participated in this third call as part of briefing leadership. - Pelosi’s comment and resignation: The witness concurs with Pelosi’s claim that he spoke three times, contradicting Pelosi’s assertion of no contact since the breach. The witness expresses a wish that Pelosi had considered the challenges faced and the efforts to bring in outside resources on January 6 before she called for his resignation. - Additional clarifications: When asked if Pelosi’s office or Pelosi herself politicized capital security, the witness said he had no idea. He also offered a closing remark hoping Pelosi would consider the witness’s efforts and the steps taken to reinforce security that day.

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National Guard troops were authorized by former President Donald Trump on January 4. However, the deployment of these troops to the Capitol requires the Capitol Police Board to issue a state of emergency. The board consists of the architect of the Capitol, the heads of Senate and House Security, and the chief of the Capitol Police. Three out of four of these individuals report to the Speaker of the House, who at the time was Nancy Pelosi. Therefore, the decision to limit the National Guard's presence at the Capitol falls under the Speaker's authority, not the President's.

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Capitol Police Chief describes an "intelligence failure" before Jan 6: "absolutely zero with the intelligence that we know now existed talking about attacking the capital, killing my police officers, attacking members of Congress and killing members of Congress." He says "FBI DHS was swimming in that intelligence" and "the military seemed to have some very concerning intelligence as well." There was "no jib, a joint intelligence bulletin zero for January 6" and "no coordination, no discussion in advance." He notes FBI Washington field office and DHS "didn't put out a single official document specific to January 6" and cites a Senate/GAO finding of emails to Steve D’Antuano about threats he did not hear on a conference call: "Nobody from DHS was on" January 5 call. On Jan 4, Miller "puts out a memo restricting the National Guard from carrying the various weapons"—and Pelosi/McConnell allegedly blocked his request: "optics." After 12:53 attack, he makes "32 calls" over "seventy-one minutes" until "02:09" when "approval" comes. "The chain is Pelosi" and "The law says in a mercy, he can grant me authorization, but he didn't."

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We discovered a previously missing interview where it was revealed that Trump heard Mark Meadows offer 10,000 troops. In January, Vanity Fair reported that Trump authorized the National Guard and told Secretary Miller to prepare them. Additionally, a White House employee present during the Capitol attack stated that Trump’s immediate response was to contact Pelosi and Milley for assistance. There are multiple records showing that Trump offered the National Guard, but the requests were declined by Pelosi and Bowser.

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The discussion centers on why the National Guard was not deployed to the Capitol on the morning of January 6. The explanation given involves a two-step process for authorization: first, authorization by the commander in chief, which had been obtained, and second, a request by the local governing body, specifically the mayor and the Capitol Police Bureau. Mister Patel confirms that there was a letter from Mayor Muriel Bowser dated January 5 to the Department of Defense stating that she would not be requesting any additional National Guard troops. Consequently, they were on standby but not activated due to the mayor’s declination of the request. Speaker 0 presses the point, implying that there was an offering or possibility to deploy the National Guard that was not executed, and suggests contacting the Mayor of Washington, DC to understand other outreach to police departments. The conversation repeats that the National Guard was not initially deployed and questions why they were blocked or not prepared from the outset. Mister Patel reiterates the key facts: the authority came through the commander in chief, the local governing body had declined to request additional National Guard, and thus there was no immediate deployment. Speaker 0 takes responsibility for not having the National Guard ready, suggesting a need to prepare more in the future. The exchange emphasizes the procedural sequence—authorization, local request, and the mayor’s declination—along with implications about preparedness and the perceived blocking or absence of National Guard deployment at the outset.

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The speaker, who is the chief of police, expresses frustration over the law that prevents them from bringing in the national guard without approval. They recount the events of the attack on the Capitol and their efforts to request assistance. They made multiple calls to different agencies, including the sergeant in arms and the chairman of the Capitol Police Board, but authorization was delayed for 71 minutes. Finally, at 2:09, they received approval and immediately informed their colleague. The speaker emphasizes their anger and marks the time as 2:10 when they finally got approval for the National Guard.

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The discussion centers on the security failures during the January 6, 2021, Capitol breach. It is clarified that there were three calls between the Chief and Speaker Pelosi on that day, contradicting her claim of no communication. The Chief expressed concerns about the House Sergeant at Arms, Paul Irving, who prioritized optics over security, delaying the National Guard's deployment. The conversation shifts to political implications, with accusations that Speaker Pelosi politicized security issues. Several speakers criticize the focus on January 6 rather than pressing issues like crime and inflation. They emphasize the need for serious discussions about security and governance, expressing frustration over perceived political gamesmanship. The dialogue also touches on the treatment of January 6 detainees and the use of force by correctional officers, highlighting concerns about civil rights violations.

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The speaker urgently called General Walker to request the National Guard's assistance at the Capitol. Despite the imminent danger, the speaker faced resistance from higher-ups who didn't like the optics of the National Guard's presence. The speaker pleaded for help, but was denied multiple times. Eventually, shots were fired, and the speaker had to hang up to handle the situation. The National Guard didn't arrive until 6 PM, and instead of being deployed at the Capitol, they were driven back to the DC Army. The speaker felt betrayed and questioned if there was a conspiracy against protecting the Capitol. The systematic denial of intelligence and support from various agencies led to the baffling conclusion of not protecting the capital.

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The speaker explains that the handling of the event was different from previous situations. They mention that the decision was made by the intelligence agency and the military. According to a federal law, the speaker was required to request federal resources like the National Guard in advance from the Capitol Police Board. However, they were denied twice due to optics and lack of intelligence support. The decision was made by Paul Irving and Mike Stenger, who work for Pelosi and McConnell respectively.

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Steve D'Antwono, the FBI director, received multiple emails warning about the violence expected at the Capitol before January 6th, but nothing was mentioned during a video call with him. The military had discussed locking down Washington DC and revoking permits on Capitol Hill due to concerns about violence. However, on January 4th, the acting secretary of defense issued a memo restricting the National Guard from carrying weapons or equipment for crowd control. This decision hindered the National Guard's response when assistance was desperately needed on January 6th. Governor Hogan even pleaded for help but was denied due to the memo. The situation doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 0: Some Republicans argue that Nancy Pelosi staged January 6 and the select committee covered it up. Based on what you know, what are the verifiable events in the lead ups? Speaker 1: I was DoD chief of staff on January 6. We deployed National Guard; in the Oval Office the president, president Trump at the time, authorized pursuant to law up to 10 to 20,000 National Guard. We took that authorization because the law's second part required a request from who? Nancy Pelosi and the Metropolitan Police and the mayor at the time. And what did they say? No. And remember what happened for the next two years? They say, Oh, Kash is lying. Trump’s lying. And what do we find? Letters of their declination of the National Guard refusing to have the National Guard show up. Nancy Pelosi and her team were busy filming a movie on January 6 while this so caused chaos around her was going down. If she had just look at it this way. If she had said yes to the National Guard and we had 10,000 uniformed military officers establish a secure perimeter, do you think January 6 would have gone differently? Speaker 0: It is intriguing that 02/1950 FBI plain clothed agents were inside the Capitol on January 6. Speaker 1: This is a great example of the president's initiative to solve all the answers on January 6, and it's another example of our transparency efforts. Pursuant to the president, we investigated the matter and found out why FBI agents were placed there in the first place. And it turns out, we found documentation and witnesses and whistleblowers that said we were forced to go there to do riot control. Armstrong, do you know what the FBI does not do ever? Riot control. Speaker 0: And you believe them? That's their word, not mine.

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Speaker Pelosi called for the resignation of the Chief of the Capitol Police, Mr. Sund, and Mr. Irving confirmed his resignation. Speaker Pelosi claimed she hadn't spoken to the speaker since the breach, but the speaker clarified that he had spoken to her three times. The first call was to brief Vice President Pence, the second call was to confirm information about returning to chambers, and the third call was to brief all leadership on the plans. Speaker Pelosi's statement about not speaking to the speaker was inaccurate. The speaker also praised the bravery of the Capitol Police.

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On that day, preparations were underway to mobilize the National Guard following a lawful request from local authorities, including the mayor of DC and the speaker of the house. Days prior, discussions in the Oval Office included the President authorizing over 20,000 National Guardsmen to secure the Capitol. The Department of Defense had approached Capitol Police multiple times about needing assistance, but those requests were often declined. The Capitol sergeant at arms, reporting to the speaker of the house, confirmed that assistance was unnecessary. Mayor Bowser also declined additional National Guard support in writing before January 6th. When asked about violence against law enforcement, the response was a clear condemnation of all such acts. Additionally, a promotion for a new immune-boosting product was mentioned, highlighting its benefits and introductory discount.

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The Capitol Police faced an intelligence failure on January 6, 2021, with critical warnings about potential violence not communicated to the chief. Despite having a dedicated intelligence unit, Sund received no actionable intelligence regarding threats to Congress or police officers. Requests for National Guard assistance were denied for over 70 minutes due to concerns about optics, even as violence escalated. Other law enforcement leaders were similarly uninformed, raising questions about the handling of intelligence. Sund expressed frustration over the lack of accountability and transparency, noting that the aftermath of the event has led to significant concerns about the politicization of law enforcement and the safety of officers. Despite the challenges, he maintains a commitment to the integrity of law enforcement.

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Speaker 0 asks why Paul Irving, who had the authority, didn't give the okay. Speaker 1 explains that he testified at the Senate hearing in 2021 and disagreed with Speaker 1's recollection. Speaker 1 turned over his phone records and fought to testify. Speaker 0 questions why Speaker 1 wasn't allowed to testify since he was the chief of Capitol Police on January 6th. Speaker 1 explains that initially, the hearing was only for current employees, excluding the top 3 people in security. Speaker 1 called someone on the rules committee to request testifying and promised to show up in person. Speaker 0 highlights the denial of Speaker 1's request for national guardsmen, which was a pivotal moment.

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I requested the National Guard urgently to come to Capitol Hill. I spoke with Pentagon officials to get approval. During the call, I emphasized the urgency of the situation, but was told they didn't like the optics of having the National Guard present.

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The denial of the request for national guardsmen on January 6th was a pivotal moment. The person who made that decision has not answered why. Representative Bennie Thompson stated that Speaker Pelosi was off limits to the inquiries of the January 6th committee. However, if we truly want to find out what happened, everyone's records should be examined. The speaker emphasizes that they have been forthright and provided their phone records. They made numerous calls to request approval and called multiple police agencies and officers to help regain control of the Capitol. The speaker's recollection is detailed and precise.

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Speaker Pelosi called for the resignation of the Chief of the Capitol Police, Mr. Sund, and Mr. Irving confirmed his resignation. Speaker Pelosi claimed she hadn't spoken to him since the breach, but he clarified that he had spoken to her three times. The first call was to brief Vice President Pence and Speaker Pelosi was on the line. The second call was when he left to brief the Senate, and Speaker Pelosi questioned the information he gave to Vice President Pence. The third call was to brief all the leadership on the plans to return to the chambers. Speaker Pelosi's comments about not speaking to him were inaccurate.

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The speaker recounts a phone call with Lieutenant General Pyot Pyot and General Flynn, where they discuss the urgent need for the National Guard at the Capitol. However, General Pyot expresses concern about the optics of having the National Guard present. The speaker emphasizes the dire situation and the denial of assistance, leading to frustration. They mention the shooting of Ashley Babbit and the delayed arrival of the National Guard at 6 PM. The speaker also highlights the fact that resources were sent to protect the homes of other generals but not theirs. They suggest that this systematic denial of support raises suspicions and could lead to conspiracy theories. The conversation ends with a discussion about the lack of intelligence and the politically charged nature of the situation.

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Kash Patel, former Pentagon chief of staff under Trump, confirms Trump authorized 10-20,000 National Guard troops before January 6th, but Capitol Police and Mayor Bowser did not request their deployment. Mayor Bowser declined National Guard support in writing. Nancy Pelosi oversees Capitol Police, who would have consulted with her before requesting National Guard assistance. Biden's DOD inspector general found no delay or obstruction by Trump administration on January 6th.

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Ep. 15 Steven Sund
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Tucker Carlson interviews Steven Sund, the former chief of Capitol Police, about the events of January 6, 2021. Sund describes a significant intelligence failure leading up to the Capitol attack, stating that he received no credible warnings about violence, despite other agencies like the FBI and DHS having concerning intelligence. He emphasizes that during a critical conference call with law enforcement leaders the day before the attack, no one mentioned threats to the Capitol. Sund recounts his desperate attempts to request National Guard assistance during the attack, which were denied for 71 minutes by the House and Senate sergeants at arms, citing concerns over optics. He highlights that while he was overwhelmed and begging for help, the Pentagon was more focused on protecting military officials' homes than responding to the Capitol's crisis. When the National Guard finally arrived at 6 PM, the situation was already under control, and they were not needed. Sund raises questions about the political motivations behind the decisions made that day, suggesting that the intelligence was intentionally downplayed. He also discusses the aftermath, noting that the January 6th Commission did not address key questions about the intelligence failures or the decisions made by leadership. Sund expresses concern over the politicization of law enforcement and the implications for public safety, emphasizing the need for accountability and transparency in the handling of the events surrounding January 6.
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