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Karen at the Ostrich Farm says that CFIA has approved the killing of their ostriches in one to four days. These birds are their pets, and they have spent years petting and walking amongst them. The ostriches are happy and healthy. She is asking for help to save these animals. She pleads for people to come to the farm at 301 Landfill Road to surround it and prevent the killing of the ostriches. Jump is supposed to be ready for the bodies. She believes that if people come together, they can make a change and stop this from happening.

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Stretch, which is 04:30 in the morning, and they have cut the power to our side of the ostrich, pens. We have been now disconnected from power. This is absolutely psychological warfare, terrorism at its biggest on a family that has just been dedicated to doing everything good to protect Canadian farmers. And do it the right way. We've done it in peace, and love, and solidarity, and going through our proper legal channels. Remember, we have a leave into the supreme court with an emergency stay order impending, and they're still doing this with reconsideration material that they will not acknowledge with our expert witness reports. Just, anyway, a heads up that, yes. So they have now dropped our power as of 04:30 this morning on the side of all the ostriches. Send lots of prayers. We love you very much.

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The transcript discusses a plan attributed to the U.S. Department of Agriculture to airdrop oral rabies vaccines into six states over the course of a month, continuing a process that started in August in other states. The states named are Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and West Virginia, all of which are expected to receive these vaccines. The plan involves dropping edible satchels of food that are designed to attract wildlife. These satchels are described as containing an oral rabies vaccine, so that when wildlife consumes them, the animals are vaccinated against rabies. It is stated that this vaccination occurs without the animals’ consent, noting that animals cannot give consent. A key question raised is what would come next after this initial distribution. The speaker asks about the implications if these satchels are spread across the stated areas and whether there will be any impact on domestic pets. The transcript asserts that the satchels are intended for wildlife vaccination and that if cats and dogs end up consuming one of the satchels, it should be okay for them and they would simply be vaccinated against rabies. The speaker contends that many people have presumably already vaccinated their animals against rabies, so the program is framed as not causing harm to pets. The speaker then reflects on the broader pattern, asserting that this is how such programs begin. The argument is made that the authorities start with animals, referencing a history of starting with animals when a rabies problem is presented as an epidemic in wildlife. The speaker notes that people are concerned about wild animals biting dogs and other animals, and that the plan is presented as a measure to prevent rabies transmission in the animal population. Finally, the transcript asserts a claim about the progression of this approach, stating that this is how it begins and arguing that there is a suggestion of eventual vaccination or interventions targeting the human population, asserting that “they’ve already started to do this” with humans. The overall content centers on the described vaccination plan, its intended wildlife focus, its effects on pets, and concerns about potential expansion to humans.

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In 2018, we found a USDA lab right outside of Washington, D.C. that was breeding hundreds of kittens each year. They would fly to places like China, purchase dog and cat meat from wet markets, and then transport it back to the U.S. in their carry-on luggage. They then force-fed this meat to the kittens in the lab. The project cost $52 million, and the purpose was to study if people eating dog and cat meat in China could be exposed to a specific parasite. Fortunately, the Trump administration shut down the project, and the remaining cats were adopted. What kind of person decides to conduct an experiment where you turn animals into cannibals to observe the results? How did they even get the grant for this? The person in charge of this experiment is in the USDA's Hall of Fame, which says a lot about the government's mindset.

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The USDA approved self-amplifying mRNA injections for rabies and other diseases in cats and dogs. These injections are authorized, widely available for online purchase, and administered by veterinarians. The speaker claims that these injections can possibly shed onto humans. The platform, Nobivac NXT developed by Merck, is available for purchase online. According to the speaker, if pets receive Nobivac NXT, they might shed self-amplifying RNA or antigens onto owners through bodily fluids. The speaker asserts that this was not tested and was authorized regardless. The effects are currently unknown.

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The speaker references 'Of hostages before engaging in what many see as as a animal cruelty.' They say, 'I can't imagine, this is absolutely astonishing to me, that an animal welfare issue in Canada has garnered the attention of MAGA type billionaires in The United States, which makes me sympathize with the ostriches less.' They conclude, 'But that doesn't matter. What'.

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There's a hen in there that is suffering She's dehydrated. They will not allow any of us to treat her, to tube her and give her electrolytes. Their people will only do it and they're not doing it right. They've never done it. So this hen is suffering and it's a major problem. The communication between we have an interim stay and to be able not be able to have any right and handle our animals is absolutely absolutely insane. and, let's talk about that these animals, it's not their fault. It's not anybody's fault and we definitely shouldn't be being punished, but these animals are being punished. We're being punished and, we have some hay coming in, getting police escorted in right now. Again, your taxpayer dollars hard at work.

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"They've obviously developed some type of natural immunity because they're not clinically sick." "The worry is the virus can mutate, become even more pathogenic, cause much more disease." "Their solution? Just kill them all, wipe it out." "But it's now in the wild bird population." "How is it that you know we can wipe out all these big healthy birds on a farm and somehow think we're going to control that disease?" "Destroy the birds, you destroy the science." "Cruelty to animals, it violates the criminal code of Canada." "Couldn't the ostriches just been quarantined where they are, it's a very isolated spot, repeatedly tested for the avian flu?" "Why can there not be some type of flexibility?" "Risk science it's here. Too bad all your birds are gonna die." "In my opinion, yeah there really could have been and should have been and should be."

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- The speaker presents a checklist for healthy cats and dogs and raises controversial claims about vaccines, diet, and technology used on pets. - Vaccination critique: Vaccines are pushed because “there’s money in the side effects,” and a claim is cited from the book Poison Needle by Eleanor McBean that “Rabies doesn’t even exist, but they poison the animals anyways.” - Diet recommendations: Advocates raw diets for dogs and cats, specifically “Raw meat, raw milk. Not kibble, processed garbage.” Cites Doctor Pottinger (Dr. Pottinger) who fed 900 cats raw meat and raw milk, reporting no parasites, no dewormers, and silky skin and fur. - Personal anecdote: A friend reportedly gave raw meat and “superfoods” to their dog; the dog supposedly showed no teary eyes, no skin allergies, and no deworming. - Parasites and metals claim: The speaker asserts that parasites are caused by heavy metal pollution; kibble is “loaded with metals,” leading animals to develop worms to counter the metals. - Vaccines and implants claim: Vaccines and RFID/chip implants are described as treating animals like lab experiments, allegedly causing tumors in the region where they are placed. - Alternative remedies: Mentions a case where Pearl Powder Shiloh Shot in Dragon’s Blood with a raw diet was given to a puppy, and the puppy was described as happy and healthy with complimenting observations. - Wireless/chemistry claim: Ends with the idea of an “invisible rainbow” (WiFi) that harms animals, suggesting microwave frequencies cook them. List of perceived hazards includes vaccines, kibble, WiFi, RFID chips, and dewormers, all said to contribute to health issues in dogs and cats.

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Feeding 71 rescue horses, I was interrupted by 6 to 8 DEC officers who presented a warrant for a squirrel and a raccoon. They searched my property for five hours, eventually finding Peanut the squirrel and Fred the raccoon. I was in the process of obtaining legal ownership for Peanut as an educational animal. Taking Peanut not only affects my family but also our nonprofit, Peanut's Freedom Farm, which started because of him. I rescued Peanut seven years ago after his mother was killed. He never developed survival instincts and was attacked, leading me to let him live indoors. Peanut became famous online, gaining 3 million followers across social media, which I believe prompted the complaint. It’s shocking that such resources were used against a nonprofit animal rescue, treating us like criminals over a squirrel and a raccoon.

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We are committed to fighting for our nonprofit and the animals we help. Recent events have been devastating, particularly the loss of a squirrel and a raccoon due to a government raid on our home. This raid lasted five hours and raised many questions, including why my wife’s immigration status was questioned and why cameras were involved. We are pursuing legal action and demand answers from the state, which orchestrated this situation. Our focus is on the animals we lost and those we continue to rescue. This is not about politics; it’s about seeking justice for the animals that brought joy to our lives. The state signed off on the actions that led to their deaths, and we will not let this go unanswered.

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Pets have died in the US from unnecessary rabies vaccines. The speaker questions the need for these vaccines, suggesting that a tire check would indicate immunity. They mention having provided articles to the public health department that support the idea that vaccines are dose dependent. Another speaker, who has a background in the pharmaceutical industry, disagrees. The first speaker explains that vaccines can cause tumors, immune diseases, and immediate reactions in animals. They express their refusal to follow a law that would require them to harm their patients.

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Devastating news: 12 out of 14 multigenerational small family farms in Point Reyes have forcibly signed a deal to shut down due to lawsuits from three environmentalist groups against the Point Reyes National Seashore. The farms can no longer afford to fight the lawsuits and are being forced to leave their ancestral homes. This is happening across the United States, not just in Sonoma and Marin Counties. The public is urged to attend the town hall meeting at 10AM in Point Reyes to show support and let people know this is unacceptable. The situation is characterized as a land grab or part of the vegan movement. It's claimed that in ten years, when the food system is strained, people will regret that the justice system didn't protect the farmers and the food system. This is described as an attack on everyone.

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The USDA last year approved self amplifying mRNA injections for our cats and our dogs for rabies and a few other things. And these are authorized and they're widely available for online purchase. And so veterinarians across the country are currently injecting self amplifying mRNA into our pets. If you look up Nobivac Nex NXT, it's the platform developed by Merck. You will find it online, and you can even buy it. It's possible if their dogs or cats receive the Nobivac NXT self self amplifying RNA particles. It's possible they are either shedding the self amplifying RNA or the antigen products that the dogs or cats are now producing onto the owners through bodily fluids. And so, none of this was tested by the way. They just authorized it anyways because they don't care.

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Katie and Carrie discuss the mass culling of 400 ostriches at Universal Ostrich Farms in British Columbia, which is set to occur by February 1st due to alleged avian flu. Katie, the owner's daughter, explains the farm's history and their shift from meat production to focusing on the ostriches' natural immunity. Carrie, the litigation manager, highlights the lack of accountability in the government's actions and the questionable testing methods used to declare the birds infected. They express outrage over the expectation that the family must euthanize their healthy animals and the absurdity of the situation, emphasizing the need for public awareness and legal action to protect the ostriches and challenge government overreach. They encourage support through their website, saveourostriches.com, to help fund their legal battle.

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You are expecting what the outcome is. I will. What what was need to put CFIA exactly where they need to be put in check. This organization feels that they are greater than the Supreme Court of Canada, that they are still positioning the birds and putting them in the position to be killed immediately. The Supreme Court has not decided what is happening, we are on a stay order. and yet they, I just get a phone call that they've got a whole bunch of birds herded in a little circle right in the kill pen waiting. This is, it's animal cruelty, it's anguish to the families, this is terrorism and this is such disrespect to our Canadian government of justice that this company thinks they're better than the Supreme Court of Canada now. Amen.

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Speaker 0 suggests that the ostriches’ ending was for a far more nefarious reason than a display of dominance, implying ulterior motives beyond a childish rivalry. Speaker 1 states that there are 36-plus worldwide patents and that this is not new research. They began collaborating with an unnamed individual and their herd of ostriches, aiming to develop an alternative to vaccinations by working with natural antibody solutions to create resilience in the body against virus threats and disease. They report significant success, claiming they already had COVID-19 and possessing scientific proof and data that they were able to neutralize the COVID-19 variants, not block them, but cure it, through lozenges or nasal sprays. This progress is described as very exciting. They further recount that the lab they were working with, Frederick Leduc’s lab, Immune BioSolutions in Quebec, was shut down immediately after their robust antibody research results returned. Leduc’s lab was said to have had to sign an NDA and was no longer allowed to talk to them. Speaker 0 then asks for the audience’s thoughts and whether they have been paying attention to the ostrich case in British Columbia, inviting feedback on that topic.

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Someone states they are passionate after 34 years of caring for animals that live to 75 and have names. They ask that "Connor," "Ethan," and "Lulu" not be shot. They acknowledge there's a policy in place, but argue it's time for a change, suggesting a report indicating every bird looks healthy. Another person responds that going against the entire industry is not their decision, and that changing to a non-eradication approach requires a national conversation with the CFIA and the Canadian government. When asked how long it would take for an ostrich to die from sickness, the response is hours to days, depending on the disease. Someone counters that there have been no avian flu deaths on the farm in eight days. Another person states that the challenge is control versus eradication, because one diagnosis puts the entire population at risk, mandating destruction.

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The speaker claims that "The USDA last year approved self amplifying mRNA injections for our cats and our dogs for rabies and a few other things. And these are authorized and they're widely available for online purchase." They say "veterinarians across the country are currently injecting self amplifying mRNA into our pets." They warn that "This can probably shut on to humans and this this has to be stopped" and ask, "Has it started yet?" "Yes." They cite "Nobivac Nex NXT, it's the platform developed by Merck" and that "you will find it online, and you can even buy it." They claim it is "possible... they are either shedding the self amplifying RNA or the antigen products that the dogs or cats are now producing onto the owners through bodily fluids." They add that "none of this was tested" and "they just authorized it anyways because they don't care," and that "it's completely unknown really at this point."

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We need to consider messaging about farm cats as pets. On a positive note, mink farms in BC were shut down, while Ontario still has them. A lawsuit against us was recently dismissed.

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The speaker rails against what they call state-funded propaganda from Canada, focusing on a CBC piece and a two-minute segment from This Hour Has Twenty Two Minutes about an ostrich crisis in Edgewood, British Columbia. They describe the CBC as a crown corporation funded by taxpayers and labeled it “state funded propaganda.” The core topic is a farm in Edgewood with about 400 ostriches that have been on the farm for over 35 years. After ostrich testing related to antibodies in eggs and yolk during COVID, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) ordered the kill of all ostriches on the farm, including the healthy birds, citing an avian flu outbreak. The speaker explains that in December 2024 two ostriches were tested by the CFIA with anal swab PCR; the results allegedly indicated avian flu (H5N1) in those two carcasses. The farm challenged the CFIA decision in federal court, and by May the court found the CFIA’s decision not inherently unreasonable and allowed the kill order to stand. The farm appealed to the Court of Appeal in Ottawa, and by August the appellate court upheld that the birds should be killed, despite eight months of healthy birds on the farm. The farm then pursued a Supreme Court of Canada route, with an interim protective order preventing slaughter while the Supreme Court considers whether to hear the case; if they do not hear it, the protective order lapses and the CFIA may proceed with slaughter. A standoff has persisted for about a month, with the CFIA constructing kill pens and the RCMP providing armored protection to the CFIA. The farm asserts that about 100 ostriches are missing and that one ostrich died under CFIA custody from dehydration and neglect, named Spirit. The speaker claims the CFIA did not administer electrolytes and that the ostrich died, alleging mistreatment by CFIA personnel who refused to provide proper care. The speaker notes that journalists, protestors, and the RCMP are present at the site, and that the CFIA has refused to provide a proper count of the remaining birds. They accuse the CFIA of misleadingly portraying the situation in BC as an ongoing outbreak and claim the birds have been healthy for nearly a year and have not been retested since December 2024, except for the two dead birds tested. They allege that the only testing occurred on dead carcasses and suggest potential false positives due to testing methods. They criticize the segment for omitting key timeline details about the outbreak and for implying the birds are sick, which the speaker contends is false. The speaker mentions external figures like Robert Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Oz showing interest in the birds, and notes blows against Florida as part of the propaganda framing. Throughout, the speaker asserts that the birds are healthy, the CFIA is withholding retesting, and the CBC piece is an example of manufacturing consent and disinformation. They urge viewers to unsubscribe or resist the show, claim the segment is insidious, and argue that the real issue is government control and alignment with global health agreements rather than animal illness. The confrontation concludes with a call to share the video and to recognize the broadcast as propaganda, while ending with personal promotional remarks about health, sunlight, and Florida.

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Thank you to everyone for your support. Peanut, our beloved squirrel, was taken from us and put down. Peanut was a social media star with nearly a million followers, and we recently faced a raid by officers from the Department of Environmental Conservation due to complaints about unsafe housing for wildlife. They took Peanut and a raccoon, and I was treated poorly during the incident. I rescued Peanut seven years ago after finding him orphaned, and last year, I started Peanut's Freedom Farm, which has saved over 300 animals. Losing Peanut not only breaks my heart but jeopardizes our funding, as donations rely on his social media presence. Despite this, I’m determined to continue our mission. A petition for support is available at realpaulmueller.com.

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The discussion centers on pets being used as self-amplifying mRNA vectors. The USDA quietly approved Merck's self-amplifying RNA shots called Novavac NXT for cats and dogs with no real safety testing. It says it gives a small dose of RNA particles delivered in the Novavac NXT vaccine. RNA copies exponentially in the cells, and the copies are transcripted into large amounts of the desired antigen. The antigen stimulates a more robust humular and cellular immune response. All sounds good in theory. However, these injections may shed messenger RNA and synthetic antigens to human owners through breath, saliva, or fluids may cause long term genetic damage similar to that seen in humans may recombine with wild viruses creating dangerous new pathogens. This rollout puts both pets and their owners into an uncontrolled genetic experiment without consent. “So says Nicholas Holcher, Miles per hour. So masters in public health. We don't know. Nobody tested it. Nobody did any studies. We don't have long term studies. We don't have short term studies. We just don't know. I'm a little scared. I really don't want to be a part of this.” And by the way, they're actually talking about spraying messenger RNA on our crops. How are we affecting our I feel like this is the everybody remember the book Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. I think I had to read it in high school. Was one of those required readings. Or what was the other book? 1984? Like, I feel like we're living in this dystopian universe where we just experiment with all these genetic things and we just throw it into the environment and throw it into our pets and throw it into people, and we don't know what the outcome is until we see. Are we all gonna go the way the dinosaurs? I don't know. Now I really sound like a conspiracy theorist. Are we all gonna like, is somebody gonna come along in a few thousand years and find fossil remains and try to figure out why we all died? I don't know. It's fine. It's fine. It's just a little nervous.” One speaker says they homestead: they raise their own chickens. They’re not treated with chemicals. Their dogs and cats don't get vaccinated with things that might shed into the environment, and they’re growing all their own organic fruits and vegetables. “Yep, I'm I'm I'm going that way. Y'all y'all do what you need to do. It's a little scary. I don't recommend that particular vaccine for your dogs. I I guess that's the bottom line. I don't know. Be careful what you eat.”

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The speakers describe an eerily devastated site with extensive property damage and a semi-dismantled kill pen in the background, suggesting blood, carnage, and possible biohazard concerns. They note that the perpetrators “drove all around it and left,” then disappeared, leaving behind an impression of what happened. Speaker 1 observes enormous bales—much larger than typical hay bales—stacked on the property, describing them as about a foot to four feet high. They remark that birds are landing inside the area and pecking at whatever is there. They reference video from the day with dead ostriches still present, noting flocks of birds arriving, implying concern about the bird flu. The speakers recount that “they drove all around in the killing fields” and “kicking up hay as they left,” describing the act as tearing down their operations and leaving in a dismissive manner after terrorizing the family for a long period and slaughtering many birds. They mention “a thousand rounds” fired by marksmen that night, and state that this had “nothing to do with avian flu,” asserting that those shots were unrelated to the flu. Speaker 0 points to a pickup they saw stuck and seized in the area, with windows left open, illustrating the chaos and mess left behind. They emphasize the long duration of distress endured: “eleven months of hell, over six weeks or something like that of having this occupied land,” with RCMP provoking people and CFIA marksmen shooting, followed by the aftermath. Speaker 1 echoes the mess, suggesting it would have been easier to stack the birds or manage them differently, rather than creating the visible wreckage. They reiterate the claim that if the situation is labeled a biohazard, wild birds are currently seen around the area. They observe birds flying over the site, including a duck, indicating ongoing wildlife presence. Both speakers conclude by questioning the process: with an anonymous tip or accusation triggering CFIA involvement, suspicion alone seems to trigger actions that lead to destruction of holdings. They assert that CFIA will come in, destroy everything, and leave scorched earth, killing all animals, presenting this as the outcome. They end with the statement that this is Canada, folks.

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Joe Rogan Experience #743 - Phil Demers
Guests: Phil Demers
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Phil Demers discusses his experiences as an animal rights activist and former trainer at Marineland, a marine park in Canada. He emphasizes the significant differences between Marineland and SeaWorld, claiming Marineland is far worse for animal welfare. Demers shares his journey of quitting his job at Marineland after witnessing the poor treatment of animals, particularly dolphins and orcas, which he describes as highly intelligent creatures with complex social structures and communication. He reflects on the impact of the documentary "Blackfish," which raised public awareness about the captivity of marine mammals. Demers argues that just because animals cannot communicate in human terms does not mean they lack intelligence or emotional depth. He highlights the adaptability of orcas, noting their hunting techniques and social behaviors, and contrasts this with the misconceptions people have about animal intelligence. Demers also discusses the harsh realities of nature, including predator-prey relationships, and the brutality of animal behavior. He acknowledges the complexity of animal rights activism, noting that many activists may not fully understand the natural behaviors of animals. He shares anecdotes about his own experiences with wildlife, including the predatory instincts of cats and the realities of hunting. The conversation shifts to the legal battles Demers faces against Marineland, which has filed multiple lawsuits against him and other activists. He describes these as strategic lawsuits against public participation (SLAPP), aimed at silencing dissent. Despite the legal challenges, Demers remains committed to advocating for animal rights and raising awareness about the conditions at Marineland. Demers mentions recent legislative changes in Canada, including a ban on orca captivity in Ontario and new standards of care for marine animals. He expresses hope for further reforms and highlights the importance of public support in driving change. He also discusses the hypocrisy within the animal rights movement, particularly regarding the treatment of domesticated animals versus wild ones. Throughout the podcast, Demers emphasizes the need for compassion towards all animals while recognizing the harsh realities of nature. He calls for a shift in how society views and treats animals, advocating for more humane practices and greater awareness of the complexities of animal behavior and rights. The conversation concludes with Demers encouraging listeners to support animal welfare initiatives and to remain informed about the issues surrounding animal captivity and rights.
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