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Glenn: Welcome back. We’re joined by professor Syed Mohammed Marandi, from Tehran University and former adviser to Iran’s nuclear negotiation team. Thank you for coming back. Marandi: Hi, Glenn. Thank you. It shows how much I like your show because I went through a lot of trouble to get online. Glenn: I appreciate it. Regarding the riots in Iran, Tehran included, it seems every time there’s a buildup to regime change or invasion, the script follows a pattern: first destabilize with sanctions and an information war, then build on public grievances and instigate violent protests. You announce the intention to help locals in their aspirations for freedom, with rhetoric reduced to a binary: either you don’t care about the protesters or you support sanctions or intervention. After a coup or invasion, the US and its allies have a zero-sum geopolitical interest and power interest, not altruism. The result, from the Arab Spring onward, is that the country to be liberated is destroyed. Iranian protests are an internal issue, but once international, geopolitics intrudes. How do you assess the situation on the ground in Tehran, domestic grievances, and the geopolitical component? Marandi: Western media and think tanks periodically declare Iran on the verge of collapse, but the state has popular support and a strong constitutional adherence. Currency suddenly fell—perhaps 30–50% in a brief period—and was managed from abroad, with pressure from the US and Western allies on currency-exchange places. Peaceful protests in Tehran and other cities followed mainly by business people whose shops were threatened by rising prices; if the currency isn’t stabilized, they’d go out of business. Protests continued into day two, with larger crowds in some cities. Then infiltration occurred: small, well-disciplined groups began to riot. Over the past days, over 100 officers were murdered, some beheaded or burned alive, some police faces smashed. A nurse in a clinic was burned alive in the top floor; ambulances and fire engines were burned; a Red Crescent worker was killed. Western media claims “protesters” and ignores footage. Across the country today, demonstrations in support of the Islamic Republic and the constitution were large—city by city like Isfahan, Tabriz, Ahvaz, Mashhad, Tehran. The crowd in Tehran was among the largest ever. Despite rioters, millions showed up in demonstrations across the country. The Iranian state’s media is outspent by a global Persian-language media empire in the West, with billions spent on online campaigns, bot armies, and networks. Yet millions demonstrated in support of the state. People can see the footage themselves. The internet was shut down to coordinate rioters across groups including ISIS-related elements, monarchists, and Kurdish groups. The rioters’ coordination collapsed when the internet went down. The regime’s supporters remain, and demonstrations in Tehran and across Iran show broad, diverse perspectives, all affirming support for the constitution and the state. Glenn: I’ve seen pro-government marches here as well; they’re huge, though not always covered in Europe. Marandi: There’s a narrative control to label the government illegitimate to topple it. The rhetoric claims Iranians are freedom-loving, yet those who claim to support them have bombs and blood. Pompeo’s tweet suggesting Mossad agents among protesters, and Mossad’s Persian-language statements, indicate foreign interference. The internet blackout aimed to prevent coordination among rioters; footage shows violent acts—two men burned in a mosque, a nurse burned in a clinic, ambulances and public buses destroyed. The “millions on the streets” claim is contradicted by the actuality of coordination via foreign paymasters. Glenn: Trump claimed Iran had fallen and would negotiate; is this about a new nuclear deal, stalled or about missiles and Iran’s regional support? What are Washington’s aims? Marandi: No one contacted him; his claim about the second-largest city falling is baseless. His ignorance shows inchoate knowledge of ground realities. Trump’s past statements about surrendering Iran suggest aims aligned with the Israeli regime’s goals: a broken West Asia and North Africa, fragmentation of states, and meddling across the region. Erdogan’s miscalculation—allying with Israel and Qatar—empowered Israeli policy at the expense of Turkey, Syria, Egypt, and Iran. The “woman, life, freedom” protests were initially fueled by Western narratives; BBC Persian and other outlets spread misinformation about Massa Amini, which was later corrected, but the cycle repeats. The West uses propaganda to push riots; Iran’s endurance of sanctions and propaganda demonstrates broad legitimacy for the Islamic Republic even amid external pressure. The demonstrations today show support for the state, the constitution, and Iran’s policies while denouncing the US, the Israeli regime, and their supporters. AOC’s stance and Trump’s stance reflect a uniparty tendency toward empire preservation. Glenn: Regarding potential war, Lindsey Graham floated strikes; how likely is war? Marandi: The currency manipulation aimed to justify instability for war. The CIA, Mossad, and others would seek to justify strikes, but Iran is prepared for war. If the US attacks, Iran may strike back; the population that stood with the state could unite in the face of aggression. Iran’s capabilities include underground drone and missile bases, short- to medium-range missiles, more easily moved than long-range missiles. Iran could devastate US installations if attacked. If war occurs, Iran could retaliate in the Persian Gulf and beyond, potentially impacting global economies. If the US begins, Iran could respond decisively, targeting American interests abroad and in the region. The Zionists allegedly favor war for their regional aims, regardless of Western consequences. Glenn: Professor Malandy, thank you for traveling and for the discussion. Marandi: Always a pleasure, Glenn.

Police are squabbling with protesters. The protesters reached the capital again.

The crowd chants "We want Trump" repeatedly.

Our protests on the International Day of Quds are anti-America because the US funds atrocities in Gaza. Imam Khomeini declared this day to direct chants against America. The system supporting such atrocities must go. Criticizing Israel is now acceptable, as it is seen as ISIS, Nazis, and racists. "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free." (Translation: "De la rivière à la mer, la Palestine sera libre.")

Then as Rabin was leaving, that's him coming down the ramp, The man in the blue t shirt approached. Three shots from behind. The Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, the architect of the Middle East peace process has been assassinated. Assassin, a right wing Israeli Jew, Yigal Amir. Truly shocking news from The Middle East tonight. Israel's prime minister Yitzhak Yitzhak Rabin has been assassinated. Outside the hospital, the crowd began to chant. Phoebe is a murderer. The sign says, Bibi, Rabin's blood is on your hands. An assassin has taken yet another world leader away from us. It was just after the biggest peace rally in Tel Aviv. Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu for contributing to her husband's death. Palestinian community. And said so on worldwide television. Your husband pointed the finger at mister Netanyahu and said, you must stop this incitement.

Today is Thursday and we are under attack. We are being targeted by Israeli snipers at the theater.

The crowd chants "We want Trump" repeatedly.

I am aware that all of you will soon march to the capitol building to peacefully and patriotically express your opinions today.

First speaker: Let me ask you. Regardless of what he thinks, what do you think, militarily speaking, looking at all just the fundamentals, if if The United States attacks Iran in any capacity and they respond back and they hit, we'll say, Al Udeid or any of these other bases that are in the area, the the the naval area at Bahrain, what would happen? What do you think would be the result on the ground? Second speaker: American casualties and then Israel will be destroyed. That's all nearly destroyed. That's pretty much what is gonna happen. And, the issue here is, how they can, basically preserve their US Navy's assets in the area. Obviously, United States has tomahawks, and many people do not understand. United States has about two and a half thousand tomahawks in general. It's the block four and block five, which is still I mean, it's it's a long range. It's about 2,000 kilometers. But the point is for the country like, Iran, 2,000 Tomahawks are nothing. You know? And so, they can still hit some political leadership. But, the moment they begin to fly, there will be a really, really serious repercussions for the liberal and fifth column in, Iran. And after that, we might have only the hardening of the regime if you wish. Because even if they kill Khamenei, okay. So what is gonna happen? Well, he becomes a martyr. And, Iranian people, they're they're they're courageous. I mean, they will fight back.

The report details the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, described as the architect of the Middle East peace process. "That's him coming down the ramp." "The man in the blue T shirt approached." "Three shots from behind." The assassin? "A right wing Israeli Jew, Yigal Amir." "Truly shocking news from The Middle East tonight." "Israel's Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin has been assassinated." "Evening spent dreaming of peace turns into a national nightmare." Outside the hospital, the crowd began to chant, "Bibi is a murderer." The sign says, "Bibi, Rabin's blood is on your hands."

Then as Rabin was leaving, that's him coming down the ramp, The man in the blue t shirt approached. Three shots from behind. The Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, the architect of the Middle East peace process has been assassinated. Assassin, a right wing Israeli Jew, Yigal Amir. Truly shocking news from The Middle East tonight. Israel's prime minister Yitzhak Rabin has been assassinated. Outside the hospital, the crowd began to chant. Phoebe is a murderer. The sign says, Bibi, Rabin's blood is on your hands. An assassin has taken yet another world leader away from us. It was just after the biggest peace rally in Tel Aviv. Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu for contributing to her husband's death. Your husband pointed the finger at mister Netanyahu and said, you must stop this incitement.

Today, I stand here proudly to talk about recent events. In the past 6 days, there have been a series of attacks carried out by brave brothers who are working for the sake of Allah. Their actions have brought pride and victory to the Muslim Ummah. We are ready and patient to face any battle, and we will continue on this path until we die. We understand that the best way to leave this world is with Allah's pleasure. The enemy calls these brave warriors terrorists, but they are fighting for the liberation of the third holiest place.

The speaker criticizes the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, negotiated by President Obama, the European Union, the British Foreign Office, and later Boris Johnson, describing the regime as an appalling evil that has maintained a theocratic, barbarous rule for fifty years. They address the brave protesters in Tehran and elsewhere fighting to regain their freedoms, and declare: long live the revolution. They also say they pray for the Persian people.

Speaker 0: Somebody's shooting over here. How are the people running? There he is right there. That guy. He's the guy.

We are at the Capitol building where people have stormed in, breaking the door. They are accusing others of standing with criminals and not protecting journalists or politicians.

What is going on here? Why are they over a cemetery? Everyone needs to get right with God. The police are telling us to go back to our houses because they don't want us filming this. Something significant is about to happen.

The discussion centers on contrasting narratives about the U.S.-Israel confrontation with Iran and what is actually happening on the ground and inside Iran. - Speaker 0 relays the “fog of war,” noting Western media claims that the U.S. and Israel are delivering a rapid victory in Iran, with leadership and navy wiped out and the war ending soon, referencing statements by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth that the war “should not be protracted” and will wrap up “very soon.” Speaker 1 and Speaker 2 push back, asking whether the war could spiral into a longer conflict and what the timeline may be, noting top general Dan Cain’s warning that the objectives will take time and that President Trump also suggested the operation could take weeks. - The program then goes to Tehran with Professor Syed Mohammed Morandi, a geopolitical analyst at the University of Tehran. Morandi explains the succession process after the death of the Ayatollah: the constitution provides a council of three that runs the government until the leader is chosen by the council of experts, which should happen in the next few days. In the meantime, the president, the head of the judiciary, and a representative from the Guardian Council run the state. He notes the councilors are being arranged to meet from abroad to avoid being targeted. - On the ground in Tehran, Morandi counters the idea that a rapid regime change is possible, detailing that U.S. and Israeli strikes have targeted Tehran and civilian infrastructure, including a claim that the government ordered people to leave the city and that an elementary school was bombed, killing about 165 girls in Minab. He describes a situation where rescue teams are struck again at the scene. He asserts that the U.S. and Israel are striking civilian targets and that there is a pattern of double tapping at sites like Fair Doce Square. - Morandi disputes U.S. claims of destroyed leadership and navy: he says that ships of the Iranian navy are in port, there are thousands of small speed boats prepared for asymmetrical warfare, and the U.S. has not touched them. He argues that the underground bases and missiles/drones remain intact, and that senior commanders were not all killed—only a handful. He notes that Iran is firing missiles at Israel and striking U.S. targets in the Persian Gulf, and that oil facilities and tankers could be attacked if escalation continues. He warns of an energy crisis if oil facilities are destroyed and notes that the price of energy has risen. - Regarding public sentiment inside Iran, Morandi states that there are no celebrations; instead, people are mourning. He describes gatherings across the country under missile fire, with demonstrations in Tehran despite security concerns. He shares that slogans included “We are prepared to die. We won’t accept humiliation. Death to Trump, death to Netanyahu,” and that millions were seen on the streets via his Telegram channel, though many left the city due to danger. He characterizes Western media portrayal as propaganda and says the sentiment on the ground is in opposition to U.S. and Israeli actions. - The host suggests that the Iranian perspective views this as a prolonged confrontation, with Iran prepared to sustain resistance for years because the United States is “completely unreliable.” Morandi notes that while negotiations have repeatedly failed, Iran aims to compel the U.S. and Israeli regime to recognize that military assault has consequences, including economic and political costs. - The program later notes that U.S. and Israeli figures frame the conflict as epically swift, while Morandi’s account emphasizes Iran’s resilience and long-term resistance, highlighting the discrepancy between Western media narratives and on-the-ground Iranian realities.

Clayton opens by noting a media blackout on Iran and asks Professor Morandi to describe life in Tehran and the bombing campaigns from Israel and the United States, as well as Iran’s response. Morandi explains that Israeli and American forces have been bombing Tehran, with airstrikes every few hours that vary in intensity and largely target civilian infrastructure. He says Iran continues to fire missiles and drones at Israeli targets and at US assets in the Persian Gulf, not limited to bases. In Tehran, civilian infrastructure including apartment blocks, schools, and local police stations has been targeted to disrupt the fabric of society. After the “massacre of the children” on day one, schools and universities were shut, and people have left the city. Shops are mixed, with some open and many closed. There are daily rallies; a funeral for murdered commanders drew a very large crowd. Nights in Tehran and other cities see people in solidarity with the armed forces, though airstrikes and nearby missile impacts occur during these demonstrations. Morandi witnessed rallies where participants, including women and men, chanted in defense of the armed forces and condemnation of the war, and did not scatter even when missiles landed nearby; instead, crowds chanted louder. Clayton asks what Iranians are chanting and counters the Western narrative that Iranians are celebrating the bombings or that women are suddenly free. Morandi rebuts the narrative as decades of propaganda. He argues there is a United States and Israeli lobby presence shaping Iran-related coverage, and asserts that ordinary Iranians, including his students, are fluent in English and knowledgeable about the United States. He notes that Iranians are demonized in Western media and think tanks, and that Iranian women hold positions of power in academia and business; he cites examples from the University of Tehran where the deans have been women for eighteen of his twenty-two years there. He accuses Western media of labeling Iran as evil while violating it through attacks, and claims Iranians support movements for independence and solidarity with groups under empire, such as in Palestine, Cuba, Venezuela, and Southern Africa. He emphasizes normalcy in daily life—shops, parks at midnight, family picnics—and asserts that Iranians view Western portrayals as propaganda rather than reflective of reality. Morandi adds that older Iranians recall historical Western support for Saddam Hussein, including chemical weapons and the downing of an Iranian airliner, and notes that younger people may be disillusioned after witnessing Western actions. He mentions three young colleagues from his faculty who participated in riots but later expressed remorse and sought ways to help, recognizing the brutality of Western-backed actions. He cites incidents where Western-supported actions killed civilians, including the bombing of hospitals, the Red Crescent building, and a volleyball gym where many girls were killed, underscoring the discrepancy between Western narratives and on-the-ground experiences. The discussion briefly shifts to the broader information environment and mentions censorship across platforms, leading into a promotion of Rumble Wallet and its features. Morandi then describes the devastation from oil infrastructure attacks in Iran, including a night sky darkened by burning oil depots and widespread pollution from chemical-like fallout, with reports that the United States was upset with Israel for attacking Iranian oil infrastructure. He reflects on Tehran’s climate of fear and the extent of damage from these assaults, describing the scene as horrific, including workers burned in refinery incidents and the oil-smudged landscape. Clayton signals a transition to questions about Iran’s infrastructure, military capacity, the Strait of Hormuz, and developments in Israel-Iran dynamics, then indicates a break.

What is going on? Why are they at the cemetery? Everyone needs to get right with God. The police are telling us to go back home because they don't want us filming. Something big is about to happen.

Rami sees his neighbor, Abu Ahmed, on the street and realizes something is wrong. Ahmed has been fatally shot in the head.

Bazaarists and ordinary citizens gathered to peacefully protest over rising costs and economic hardship, described as the direct result of America’s economic terrorism and unlawful sanctions designed to suffocate Iran. The demonstrations were presented as legitimate, constitutional, and recognized by Iran’s leadership, with authorities pledging to listen. Cities were quiet, police unarmed, and protesters marched peacefully until an operation was triggered. The Twelve Days War begins anew. American and Israeli officials admitted Mossad’s heavy involvement. Thousands of Starlink terminals were smuggled in and handed to terrorist cells inside Iran. These cells moved quickly, infiltrated crowds, and turned protest squares into killing fields. Civilians and law enforcement were slaughtered in gruesome, ISIS-like fashion. Eyewitnesses reported armed operatives issuing commands, moving with discipline, and some disguising themselves as police. Fake checkpoints appeared; civilians were stopped and executed at close range. Violence escalated as officers were ambushed, lynched, mutilated, burned alive, and severed heads were mounted on car roofs; bodies were dragged through streets in grotesque spectacles designed to terrify. The terror spread across capital and many cities, with drive-by shootings spraying bullets into crowds and at protesters and bystanders alike, each killing calculated to fracture society, with precious lives lost to foreign bullets rather than Iran’s law enforcement. The people described as totally unarmed. Public institutions were attacked—hospitals, banks, mosques, fire trucks, ambulances, and buses full of passengers were set ablaze, crippling essential services. The violence was described as the work of trained operatives, including beheadings, mutilations, coordinated arson, and synchronized executions. It was characterized as not spontaneous protest but organized terror, with tactics mirroring ISIS and Al Qaeda. Public executions, impersonation of authorities, symbolic destruction, and indiscriminate killing were said to follow the same doctrine and playbook. It was alleged this was not unprecedented, citing Syria and Libya as examples where terrorist cells infiltrated protests to escalate violence and fracture societies. Alongside the violence, a media war was launched: Western mainstream media outlets were accused of bias that blamed killings on the government, while executions by terrorists were blamed on security forces, and victims of terror recast as casualties of state repression. Social media influencers were reportedly paid generously to amplify distortion, demonizing Iran and paving the way for foreign intervention. Cyberattacks targeted infrastructure, networks were crippled, and the government was forced to shut down the Internet to protect citizens and disrupt terrorist communications. Yet the operation was said to fail miserably. Calm was restored, and millions marched in support of the state. Now the United States and the Israeli regime stand poised to launch a new war to engineer regional collapse. But Iran, described as the oldest continuous civilization on Earth, has survived millennia and will stand tall again, stronger and more prosperous, determined to decide its own destiny. The biggest foreign intelligence and terror operation in Iran is claimed to have failed.

Police are squabbling with protesters; they have just reached the capital again.

To the people of Iran, help is on the way. In a brief exchange, Speaker 1 questions whether a hat reading “Make Iran Great Again” was on Air Force One with President Trump over the weekend, asking, “Did you really have this hat on Air Force One with president Trump this weekend? The one that says am I reading that right? Does that say make Iran great again? Did you give that to the president?” Speaker 0 confirms, “I did.” He adds that Trump “is not Barack Obama. He’s not turning his back on the people of Iran who are demanding that their oppression end.” He then directs a warning toward the Ayatollah and “his thugs,” stating, “if you keep killing your people in defiance of president Trump, you’re gonna wake up dead.” The message concludes with the assertion that the regime “is on verge of falling.”

The speaker argues that the pure soul of Said Ali Khamenei returned to God as a martyr, joining his grandfathers and all the prophets, including Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, and asks Allah to raise their ranks in paradise and shower them with mercy. The speaker contends that “Trump did a huge mistake by killing our beloved leader, Said Ali Khamenei,” asserting that the attempt to subdue believers through his death will fail. Instead, the speaker states a resolve to continue on the path, to “hold his blood, his ideology,” and to learn it and teach it to their children and grandchildren.

An Iranian man states that the Islamic regime in Iran shut down the internet for over twelve hours. He says this is not the action of America or Israel, but of the Iranian government. He expresses worry for political prisoners and regular citizens, fearing the regime might seek revenge on its own people due to losing the war to Israel. He says Iranians hate the government and have been trying to overthrow it for 46 years. He clarifies that Israel is bombing IRGC and Islamic regime bases, not the Iranian people, and that Iranians support these actions. He claims the Iranian regime are evil people, and the people in Iran hate the regime. He accuses others of supporting the regime and wanting to put nuclear weapons in their hands.