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Zeb Boykin hosts Let's Talk About It and keeps this brief. He, a marine scout sniper who taught ballistics, states "the FBI lies to us" and urges starting with no preconceived notions. The video centers on ballistics. He analyzes four of nine camera angles, then returns to the first. Camera angle one shows a bullet near Charlie Kirk; camera two shows an exit wound in the neck and the earpiece flying off as the shockwave pulls the mic; camera three resembles the view. He explains how the earpiece and cord interact with the shirt, discusses a temporary cavity, and estimates a small-caliber round rather than a rifle. He disputes a body-armor shot, rejects a 'reflection' claim, and argues the shooter cannot be on the roof. He says there is a single shooter and pledges follow-up or live coverage; "The FBI is lying to you."

- "earliest it was 12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots." - "The metadata begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot." - "I saw the shots. I had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out." - "this person looked to him like a foreign agent." - "this person was dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask." - "this is the wrong person. I observed this person with my eyes. You have the complete wrong description." - "the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw, that the gun that he saw was smaller."

I now have from a confirmed source: "He was hit in the chest, which is what we saw right here. It caved in part of his chest. The bullet ricocheted up and went into the neck." "There was no side shooter, guys. The main shooter we're looking at came from the front, and I don't think it was that Tyler dude. I think that Tyler dude is a patsy." "First, he drives and drops this gun off in the woods. Then he drives and parks his car on campus. Then he walks back to the woods to get the gun, then he puts the gun in his pants, and he walks to campus, climbs on the roof, changes his outfit, then takes the shot." "This is what we call slop, folks. Slop." "Please do not send me any more videos of any other angles of this being a side shooter." "The side shooter, no. It had to have come from straight on, most likely a long rifle from a much farther distance. I personally think that there is somebody much farther back than that. I think that dude on the roof is a patsy." "Charlie Kirk was hit with a bullet, and they carried that body to the hospital. When it arrived there, his chest was caved in. The vest ricocheted up into his neck, most likely hitting his spine. That's why you see his neck tilt like that and he falls over." "Some people are saying he made ninety minutes. Definitely didn't feel a thing."

Speaker 0: "We still have, basically confirmation he got shot. ... immediate incapacitation." He asserts "the FBI is lying" and that "it's quite literally not possible for the shooter to have been on the roof that they claim he is along with other inconsistencies across the board." Speaker 1: "Keep your eye on this space here... the bullet matches the exit wound, ... the shirt puffing up and the angle of the entry and exit." He adds: "the same what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself." From Google Earth, "the shooter was up here somewhere, that's the angle that the bullet was coming down from." "the shooter was most likely here somewhere." "Somewhere on those stairs would be my tip, and if the FBI aren't looking there, I don't know why."

Zeb Boykin introduces himself as a Marine scout sniper and says he will keep the video short. He asserts, "the FBI lies to us" and urges evaluating claims without preconceived notions, focusing on ballistics. He identifies nine camera angles and uses four (Cam1–Cam4) to analyze footage frame by frame. He argues a bullet is visible before it hits Charlie Kirk, suggesting the shot came from the right/front and that the earpiece and cord movement shows a mic being pulled by a shockwave, not body armor. He describes an exit wound in the neck and an entry wound that wouldn’t produce the observed damage, estimating calibers around nine millimeter or .38, not 30-06. He discusses muzzle-flash frame, earpiece trajectory, and a Cam4 reflection claim, concluding, "This cannot happen if the shooter is shooting on the roof straight on," and "The FBI is lying to you."

An experienced firearms trainer said the FBI saying that the shooter dropped onto Dhruv at 12:15 didn’t make sense to him; he believed the earliest time was 12:22 when the shooter ran across, set up, and fired. He shared metadata showing 12:22–12:23, the minute Charlie is shot, and said he had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out. He described the shooter as dressed in tactical gear and wearing a face mask, and, to him, looked like a foreign agent—highly trained—unlike the widely circulated jeans description. After George Zinn’s arrest, he ran to someone on campus and said, this is the wrong person. He noted the gun FBI found was not the gun that he saw; the gun he saw was smaller. "watching the video of the impact, hearing the sharp crack instead of a big hunting rifle's boom, and seeing what looked like a shorter rifle platform, albeit with the absence of the shape of a standard 30 round magazine, the assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine only expecting to shoot once or twice. I would guess that he was shot with a Hornady V Max or similar lightweight two twenty three bullet designed for very rapid expansion." "Of course, I don't have access to any autopsy reports like you might, but if they found small shards of copper rather than one large copper coated lead slug, that's the gun and bullet I would expect was used."

This footage proved very difficult to track down. Aaron also has a Chicago number. Neither of them are students of UVU. One of them said he was a student at BYU, which is Brigham Young University. The metadata begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot. I watched him sprint back after taking the shot. I saw this with my own two eyes. the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw. the assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine only expecting to shoot once or twice.

A firearms trainer questions the FBI timeline: "the shooter dropped onto the roof at 12:15" and notes the earliest timeline as "12:22 ... the shots." He cites metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot," and says he "had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out." He describes the shooter as "dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask" and says he looked "like a foreign agent." After George Zinn's arrest, he told campus, "this is the wrong person" and that "the person you're looking for is wearing tactical gear and is obviously young"—a description that "never made its way out" while the public saw "the now infamous, veteran's shirt with the American flag on it and some jeans." He claims the gun FBI found was not the gun he saw; "the gun that he saw was smaller." He texted: "watching the video of the impact ... the assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine ..." "I would guess that he was shot with a Hornady VMAX or similar lightweight two twenty three bullet designed for very rapid expansion. If they found small shards of copper rather than one large copper coated lead slug, that's the gun and bullet I would expect was used."

Timeline begins 08:23 with a gray Dodge Challenger seen at campus; 08:29 Robinson arrives at the university, parks in the entrance area, and is captured on surveillance in a maroon T shirt, light shorts, and a black hat. By 09:57 he’s seen again in the same outfit. At 11:49 he’s described as hobbling in dark clothing, allegedly per Discord messages, and arrives on campus at 11:52. At 12:15, ‘Robinson retrieves the rifle, a Maser model 98, 30 odd six bolt action with a scope from a drop point in a bush, wrapped in a dark towel,’ and engraves the casings with memes. He changes into dark clothes on the roof and fires at Charlie Kirk at 12:33, then flees. FBI arrives 12:39; Turning Point employees are accused of crime-scene tampering; a manhunt follows, and Robinson is detained September 11. The speaker notes CCTV gaps and Discord communications and urges research.

Speaker, a marine scout sniper who 'did that for five years,' says 'the FBI lies to us' and urges to start with 'no preconceived notion.' He defines four camera angles: 'This is camera angle one,' 'This is camera angle two,' 'This is camera angle three,' and 'Cam four is here.' He notes 'Bullet, Charlie' and 'This is an exit wound in the neck and the entry wound doesn't cause that immediately.' The earpiece is described: 'the earpiece flying off' and 'the cord is running down through the neck... pulls the collar up.' He mentions a 'temporary cavity' and a supposed laser: 'a laser strikes the lens' and 'the dot travels up... Charlie's hit.' He estimates calibers: 'I assumed... a 38' and 'nine mil' and says 'they claim rifle.' He concludes: 'FBI is lying. It's quite literally not possible for the shooter to have been on the roof that they claim.'

Zeb Boykin analyzes a shooting using four of nine camera angles, noting “there’s nine camera angles” and “we’re only gonna use four of them” before revisiting camera1. He states “the FBI lies to us” and limits discussion to ballistics. He claims a frame before impact shows the “bullet” at Charlie Kirk, and in camera2 “an exit wound in the neck” with “the earpiece” dislodged and “the cord pulling the shirt” as the mic is drawn by the shockwave. He says “the earpiece is not body armor” and dismisses a “reflection” in camera4. He mentions a possible muzzle flash (grainy) and discusses a temporary cavity, yaw, and bullet tumbling. He estimates a smaller caliber, possibly nine millimeter, and suggests a base-of-skull hit causing instantaneous incapacitation, not a rifle. He concludes, “The FBI is lying to you,” and, “This cannot happen if the shooter is shooting on the roof straight on.”

An investigator says they compiled a timeline from every media outlet, tracing events from 08:23 when a gray Dodge Challenger was seen near campus to the arrest. The timeline suggests Robinson arrived on campus, performed reconnaissance, changed outfits, and moved through the Luce Center before ambushing Charlie Kirk at 12:33 from the rooftop. He allegedly retrieved a Maser Model 98, 30-06 bolt-action rifle from a drop point, engraved bullet casings with memes, and changed into dark clothing on the roof. After the shooting, he fled the campus, discarded the rifle and casings, and escaped toward Washington County, aided by a disguise using a limp. A large manhunt followed; FBI and US Marshals detained him later. The narrator questions CCTV coverage, possible scene tampering by Turning Point staff, and Discord chatter in the investigation.

"the time stamp is 12:44. Charlie Kirk was shot at 12:23." "So roughly about twenty minutes after that, he pulls in here, sits in the car park for a bit, and then drives out and then drives out of the car park and towards UVU." "This white car was parked up front closer to the camera as as we can see, and we can play this again." "the officer apparently did not have his body cam footage on." "Prosecution has a weak spot because that the messages, the the trans boyfriend messages, they don't have time stamps." "the gun that they showed initially, the picture New York Post published this. FBI never published a gun before that, right?" "This is not even the rifle." "composite stock on it." "There is enough camera footage now, somebody was telling me, and enough to for them to do, like, a ballistic sound. Acoustic forensics." "it sounds like a muffled, not like a 30 out six." "weak reload." "double DHT." "they're tainting the jury pool basically."

Speaker questions the narrative: 'random trans shooter' on the roof who 'took this shot' and was 'undetected' because the FBI released video footage. He asks if this means 'he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior' and wonders 'why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving?' He questions the lack of footage—'why don't we have any images of this kid leaving the school?' and 'video footage of this kid jumping off the roof?' He says, 'he runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' and argues, 'you definitely wouldn't carry the rifle with you' to blend in, citing 'an American flag shirt on.' He references 'criminal minds' and BAU, concluding, 'This is weird, guys. This is freaking weird.'

A "straight shooter" with gun training said he observed discrepancies in the FBI timeline. He notes the FBI said the shooter "dropped onto the roof at 12:15," but that the earliest timing was "12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots." He adds that metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot," and that he "had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out." He says the later description was wrong: "not the description that the entire world received less than twenty four hours later of this person, Tyler Robinson, wearing jeans." Instead, "this person was dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask" and "looked to him like a foreign agent." He recalls saying, "this is the wrong person." The gun FBI found was "not the gun that he saw"—"the gun that he saw was smaller." A text describes "a sharp crack" and "shorter rifle platform" with "a 10 or 20 round magazine" and "Hornady V Max or similar lightweight two twenty three bullet designed for very rapid expansion." If copper shards were found, "that's the gun and bullet I would expect was used."

A training guns expert said the FBI claim "the shooter dropped onto Dhruv at 12:15" didn't make sense; he asserted "earliest it was 12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots," and metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the minute that Charlie gets shot." He said "I saw the shots. I had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out," and that the shooter "looked to him like a foreign agent," "dressed in tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask," "highly trained." After George Zinn's arrest, he told campus "this is the wrong person" and that the person "wearing tactical gear" and "obviously young" "sprinted back after taking the shot," a description "never made its way out." He said "the gun FBI found was not the gun that he saw"—"the gun that he saw was smaller." Text: "watching the video of the impact, hearing the sharp crack..."

Speaker 0 argues the Charlie Kirk story keeps getting weirder. They claim a random trans shooter was on the roof, took this shot, runs across into the rooftop, jumps down, somehow undetected because the FBI releases a video footage. Was this when he was walking into the building, then he must have already had planted the gun on the roof prior, and he somehow managed to walk back in the second time without the weapon. If he left with a weapon and hid it in the woods, why didn't he have it on him when he was leaving? They say he runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods. If you were running, you wouldn't carry the rifle with you. He wore an American flag shirt. The FBI with all their resources, that's the best photo? Didn’t we watch Criminal Minds? They claim BAU would rerender that image and get it pixel perfect. Face recognition software could redigitalize that kid's face with AI to pixel perfect; this is weird.

An experienced firearms trainer cited FBI timeline inconsistencies: "the shooter dropped onto Dhruv at 12:15" didn’t make sense; "earliest it was 12:22 that the individual ran across, set up, took the shots." He noted metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12:23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot," and, "I had just stopped recording about twenty seconds before the shot rang out." He said the shooter differed from the public description: "this person was wearing tactical gear, and he was wearing a face mask... looked to him like a foreign agent... highly trained." After George Zinn's arrest, he said, "this is the wrong person. I observed this person with my eyes. You have the complete wrong description. Person you're looking for is wearing tactical gear and is obviously young." He claimed the gun FBI found was not the gun he saw: "the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw, that the gun that he saw was smaller." He shared a text: "assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine only expecting to shoot once or twice... Hornady V Max or similar lightweight .223 bullet designed for very rapid expansion." He added: "if they found small shards of copper rather than one large copper coated lead slug, that's the gun and bullet I would expect was used."

The speaker says they spent the night compiling “this timeline … from every media outlet … so we can understand what the media is telling us and what evidence we have to support that,” noting holes and missing pieces. Key points: 08:23 they see his gray Dodge Challenger driving past a home near the university; 08:29 Robinson arrives at the university campus in his gray Dodge Challenger, parks in the entrance area, and is captured on surveillance wearing “a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts, and a black hat with a white logo and a light colored shoes.” From 08:29 to 10:00, he’s “ghost” on campus for reconnaissance; 09:57 he’s seen walking back in a red maroon shirt; 11:49 he’s dressed in dark clothing, hobbling toward the campus; 11:52 he arrives on campus, moves through stairwells toward the Luce Center; 12:15 retrieves the rifle, a Maser model 98, 30 odd six bolt action with a scope from a drop point in a bush, and engraves the bullet casings with meme style messages: “fired casings, notice bulges, o w o, What’s this? Unfired. Hey, fascist. Catch arrows. Oh, Bella Chow. Bella Chow. Bella Chow.” He changes into dark clothes on the roof; 12:22, 12:33 he fires a single shot from the roof striking Kirk; he flees, discards the rifle, and changes back into maroon. Turning Point employees tamper with a crime scene; FBI arrives 12:39; 10:45 reward announced for information; 7,000 to 11,000 leads; by Sept 11–12, Robinson detained at home by US Marshals, FBI custody soon after. The narrator questions CCTV footage, Discord messages, and suggests the possibility of faked gait, inviting viewers to review footage and share.

"What you're watching here, you're gonna watch the reaction." "Something is hitting that shirt before it goes through his neck." "There could easily be a white vest under it." "Or what I just realized here is you guys have black letters on there." "That round could have very possibly touched one of those black letters." "The shirt looks like after the fact, but he did even have this mic on here." "There is no way to get that angle of that shot." "the vest goes through this, hits something inside, ricochets back out, comes out the top." "it most likely was a long rifle." "I'm still not convinced of the trans shooter." "There have been lies that the FBI has told us." "Kyle's Kyle does this stuff for a living." "Drop some comments below."

Questions the claim that 'some random trans shooter was on the roof, took this shot, runs across into the rooftop, jumps down, somehow magically being undetected because the FBI releases a a video footage.' He asks if he had 'planted the gun on the roof prior' and how he could 'walk back in the second time without the weapon.' He questions why 'we don't have any images of this kid leaving the school' or 'any video footage of this kid jumping off the roof,' and notes he 'runs roughly one mile with a long arm rifle in broad daylight to stash it in the woods' while wearing 'an American flag shirt.' He doubts the FBI photo is the best they can provide and references 'criminal minds' and 'the BAU' that would 'rerender that image' to be 'pixel perfect' with 'face recognition software.' Contrasts movie-like tech with reality, calling it 'weird.'

From the outset, one of the speakers says there was a sense that the official narrative about the day didn’t add up, expressing that many Americans feel they were being lied to. The major problem they identify with the assassination narrative includes inconsistencies and unanswered questions rather than acceptance of the official story. Speaker 1 recalls being told Charlie Kirk was shot and initially in critical condition, but notes that the video shows an exit wound and movement of Kirk’s shirt that suggests an impact nearby. With extensive experience around gunshot wounds, they say what they saw didn’t make sense. They reference the FBI’s announcement of a shooter and describe a separate incident involving a person on the roof who allegedly disassembled and reassembled a firearm, aligned a scope, fired a cold bore shot, moved to the roof, and then wrapped the rifle up. They mention texts from the shooter that didn’t sound like a typical 22-year-old and state that these observations raise questions. They say asking questions leads to being torn down or accused of holding conspiracy views, and they specify they aren’t claiming “Israel did it,” but insisting the questions about the event “don’t look good.” They raise specific questions: did the security team remove Charlie Kirk’s lapel mic after the incident and give it to someone else; what happened to the SIM card; did someone take the camera behind him; why was the crime scene contaminated and rebuilt. They admit they don’t know what is true but insist the questions deserve answers. They note that once they question, they’re labeled antisemitic, and they say they didn’t even bring up Israel. They emphasize the personal and national significance of the incident. Speaker 0 mentions a claim that Charlie Kirk was portrayed as Superman, with his body supposedly stopping the 30-odd-six bullet, and asks what would have happened if a 30-06 round hit him. Speaker 1 says it would likely blow his head off and leave remnants of the bullet, arguing that they don’t think such remnants have been found yet. They question why the chair and desk were moved and contend that a forensic expert could determine the shot’s origin, insisting they are simply asking questions. If those questions can be refuted, they would stop asking; but they claim they’re not getting any answers beyond “this is what happened” and being told to “shut up.” Speaker 0 adds that telling someone to be quiet amounts to labeling them antisemitic, and that when the trial comes, they will look like a fool. Speaker 1 says that’s a tactic of the left—when you call them out, they label you a name—and that the right is now doing the same to them.

Discussion centers on claims about the Charlie Kirk assassination, including a side shot. The presenter says "there's now a shooter on the roof" and an eyewitness states the shooter was "wearing tactical gear" and described "the exact type of weapon... a two two three round." A bystander video shows "somebody on the roof" and the eyewitness asserts the shooter was "highly trained, like a highly trained assassin" and that the footage's metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12/23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot." The speaker adds the shooter "looked like a foreign agent" and "not jeans." Another claim: "the FBI's official story is false" with video of an "entry and exit wound," though another participant says "it's not blood splatter. That's literally his necklace getting snapped off and flying over the back of his neck." The discussion concludes with "Cash should resign."

"This is a CIA Stinger 22 magnum pin gun inside a camera, and that telephoto lens has a suppressor silencer. And it's literally the smoking gun." "They are into espionage, and they do that kind of thing just like The United States. Google it." "Seventeen seconds earlier, he was using the viewfinder, faking it to take pictures." "The bullet's traveling faster than the sun." "The shooter behind Charlie with the camera gun is scouting the area to see Charlie's mannerism and what angle to shoot the bullet." "The backpack with the dangling straps, but that doesn't matter because he tries to hide all that in a black Chrysler minivan Pacifica with stock rims." "The signal guy; puts the radio to his mouth and gets the team working." "There were two shooters: one with a silencer and one with a big bang to avoid any conspiracy." "Charlie had two wounds: one from the front, and another from his right into the lower part of the skull." "UVU Hall Of Flags." "The shooter on the roof had the silencer; the one behind Charlie with the camera gun is scouting." "Turning Point stated that when they go live, this they didn't go live. They always have four k cameras. On this day, they only had three." "greatest1command.com" "Yl Relevance."