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Speaker 0: Vaccines date back to 1626 poisoning the people. Okay? Poisoning the people since 1626. This is not new. They're not like, oh, we got some new stuff, and it's not the snake venom or anything else. It's just poison is what it is. They've been poisoning the people since 1626 with vaccines. So no child, no adult, no grandma, no grandpa, no mother, no nothing needs any shots, whether it be tetanus, whether it be rabies, whether it be anything. You do not need to put any shots into your animal, your grandma, your father, your mother, your children. That's it. It's straight poison. And there's a great picture from 1885, and it says, vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate. There is money in the side effects. That's it. That is all vaccines. Money in the side effects for the pharmaceutical companies to poison the people and just keep making money off of them. You go back into the nineteen hundreds and doctors used to claim there were no cases of cancer in an unvaccinated person. How about the Amish? The Amish don't put a single vaccine into their body, And you notice that the Amish look pretty darn healthy. Well, altogether. Why? They're not injecting themselves with poison. It makes no sense. So there's all these cultures who didn't use this garbage. And then as they now become like modernized and they start putting this garbage into them their body, then all of a sudden, people start coming down with all the same illnesses. I got autoimmune, lupus. I got allergies. I got this. I got that. Right? Right? All those things. Where do you think they're all stemming from? They get you as you're young because you don't have the ability to consent. Right? Tell that tell the doctor to take the needle and stick it in themselves. Give themselves their own boosters and vaccines. You don't need to do that. And I think people need to stand the ground with that because there has never been a single vaccine that has ever helped helped anybody.

All vaccines, including COVID vaccines, are causing harm to children. There has never been a study comparing fully vaccinated kids following the CDC schedule to unvaccinated kids. The difference in health outcomes is dramatic, with unvaccinated kids being consistently healthier. A 10-year study by Dr. Paul Thomas, which was retracted unethically, showed that vaccinated kids were more likely to get the diseases they were vaccinated against. Being unvaccinated should be applauded because vaccines are causing chronic diseases in America. A study with over 1,000 unvaccinated people showed significantly better health outcomes compared to fully vaccinated individuals. The CDC promised to conduct a study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals but never followed through. No vaccine is safe or effective, and no study has proven otherwise.

Speaker 0 states: He took 69 vaccines, probably more doses than anyone in the room, and cannot be labeled an anti-vaxxer. If given what he knows today and had the choice, he would not take those 69 vaccines. He would rely on the McCullough Foundation report, which now summarizes 12 studies, showing a healthy child born today remains healthier if they take no vaccines whatsoever. He notes that he and his kids were healthy.

Speaker 0/J: The discussion centers on a study with dramatic implications, including claims that publishing such data could be career-ending, and questions about why the data would be so catastrophic. Speaker 2: The study involved eighteen thousand four hundred sixty eight subjects, of which one thousand nine hundred fifty seven were fully unvaccinated. When comparing the health outcomes of the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated, they found an increased risk in the vaccinated of several chronic health conditions. The vaccinated subjects were over four times more likely to have an asthma diagnosis—specifically four point two nine times in the adjusted analysis—and they note there are studies showing a range from three point two six to five point six five. Speaker 1: They also found three times the risk for atopic diseases. Speaker 2: Atopic diseases are described as a subset of allergic diseases. Speaker 1: They found an almost six times risk for autoimmune disease. Speaker 3: The autoimmune diseases this paper looked at include thrombocytopenic purpura, rheumatoid arthritis, SLE, systemic lupus erythematosus, MS, multiple sclerosis, and Guillain Barre syndrome. They mention there are over 80 different autoimmune diseases, and their data showed for autoimmunity a six times increase in those who got vaccines when compared to the unvaccinated. Speaker 2: This is presented as staggering because autoimmune disorders represent significant morbidity and health costs and suffering accrued over a lifetime. Neurodevelopmental disorders are also discussed. Speaker 0: What kind numbers we talked about? Do you remember? Speaker 1: Five and a half times risk for neurodevelopmental disorders. Speaker 2: They state the immune system is intimately connected with both brain development and brain functioning, and so when the immune system gets triggered by illness, potentially by vaccination, you can get neuropsychiatric symptoms presumably related to brain inflammation and immune processes in the brain. Speaker 0: Two point nine two times the amount of motor disabilities, four point four seven times the amount of speech disorders in the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated, Speaker 3: Three times the rate of developmental delay. They found the same patterns as with allergy and autoimmunity. Also, six times more acute and chronic ear infections. Speaker 2: Interestingly, there were several health conditions where they couldn't even do this analysis because there were none in the unvaccinated group. The mathematical formulas require non-zero counts in both groups to compare risk. Speaker 1: For example, there were two sixty two children who had ADHD in the vaccinated group. Amongst the unvaccinated group, there were zero cases of ADHD. Speaker 3: These results are described as mind boggling. Conditions were not found at all in almost two thousand unvaccinated kids: zero brain dysfunction, zero diabetes, zero behavioral problems, zero learning disabilities, zero intellectual disabilities, zero tics, and zero other psychological disabilities in the unvaccinated.

Speaker 1 states they would not give their children the measles, mumps vaccine, claiming that while many used to die from these diseases, by 1964, only 300-400 Americans died, mostly malnourished children. They claim the World Health Organization says vitamin A is a cure for measles and that contracting measles as a child leads to greater resistance to cancers, atopic diseases, allergies, and heart disease. Speaker 1 denies causing a measles outbreak in Samoa, stating the prime minister had already banned the vaccine after deaths, and that the deaths were due to a bad vaccine from Australia given to people who already had measles. They maintain that autism is caused by vaccines, citing a CDC study that showed a 1350% elevated risk for autism among children who received the hepatitis B vaccine in their first 30 days. They allege that studies claiming vaccines don't cause autism are fraudulent, citing a fugitive scientist, Paul Thornson, and that the CDC is dishonest and controlled by the pharmaceutical industry. They reference their book, "Let the Science Speak," which they claim contains 1,400 references and over 400 studies linking autism and neurological injuries to vaccines.

A doctor studied every patient born into their practice over ten and a half years, comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children. The study, published in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, included over 500 unvaccinated children and over 3,700 partially vaccinated children. The doctor claims the data showed that the more vaccines a child received, the worse their health outcomes were regarding infections, ADD/ADHD, neurodevelopmental issues, eczema, allergies, and anemia. The doctor states that within five days of the study's online publication, the Oregon Medical Board suspended their license, deeming them a threat to public health. The doctor says they have allowed parents to decide about vaccines, emphasizing informed consent.

Speaker 0 asserts that there is no safe vaccine on the childhood schedule and labels themselves an anti-vaxxer because no vaccine has been properly tested for safety. They state that, in the book Vax Facts, you are more likely to die from the vaccine than from the disease for which there is a vaccine, and that this is true for every single vaccine on the childhood schedule. They acknowledge that death from the vaccine is still a death and “super rare,” but claim you are much more likely to die from the vaccine. They ask which do you want: a greater chance of dying from the vaccine or a lesser chance of dying from the disease, noting that for many of these diseases, the risk is zero.

"Vaccinated kids had four to eight times as many of these conditions." "Asthma, allergies, allergic rhinitis, breathing issues, behavioral issues, ADD, ADHD, infections of all kinds." "We're talking respiratory, ear infections, eye infections, and then all the eczema, dermatitis, skin problems, and anemia." "The one that kind of I just have to chuckle on is infections." "you and I have talked on vaccines before." "But the truth of the matter, and my data showed this conclusively, it is the highly vaccinated who are getting sick with infections, not the unvaccinated." "The unvaccinated, clearly, something's going on." "It's the natural inborn innate immune system is powerful and gets disrupted by vaccines." "So unvaccinated kids are healthier, are less ill." "Therefore, they are less likely to make someone else sick." "They are actually the ones providing protection, if you will."

In my practice, we examined every baby and office visit without cherry-picking. We had over 500 babies with no vaccines and 3,700+ with some. Unvaccinated kids showed fewer illnesses and chronic conditions compared to vaccinated ones. The data, displayed in graphs, revealed that more vaccines correlated with worse health outcomes like infections, ADHD, and anemia. This compelling data led to the suspension of my license within 5 days of its release.

The speaker described observing a growing trend of patients choosing not to vaccinate over the next decade and sought to determine if he could prove differences. He collected data from his practice, examining every baby born there, and published the findings in an international journal of public health. The study, described as peer reviewed and robust, reported massive increases in several health outcomes among the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated, including four to five hundred percent more allergies, autoimmune conditions, and neurodevelopmental issues, as well as infections of all kinds. Following the online publication of the study, he received a call from his attorney instructing him not to see any patients, not to write any prescriptions, and not to enter the office. He was told, “Your license has been emergently suspended. You are a threat to public health.” He stated, “Today is the last time I will be doing clinical medicine in Oregon.” He added, “Knowing that you guys are keeping it going, the heart of this place lives on.”

The CDC has not conducted studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children over time. In my practice, we analyzed data from all patients over 10.5 years, comparing those who followed the CDC vaccine schedule with those who did not. We included over 500 unvaccinated children and around 3,700 who received some vaccines. The findings were surprising; unvaccinated children experienced significantly fewer health issues, including infections and chronic conditions. The data showed a clear trend: the more vaccines a child received, the worse their health outcomes, including conditions like ADHD and allergies. Shortly after publishing this data, my medical license was suspended, with claims that I posed a threat to public health.

Dr. Paul Thomas, an Oregon pediatrician who ran a practice of about 10,000 patients, promoted parents’ vaccine choice and studied a Danish approach: 17 vaccines before age five, vaccinating only against diseases lethal to the child. He proposed a lighter schedule but would support the full CDC schedule or zero if parents chose. He analyzed thousands of children born into his practice, comparing diagnoses before age five and visits, focusing on infections and ADHD. He looked at the totally unvaccinated kids, and the vaccinated kids were very few who took the full schedule because he didn’t recommend it. He published it, and it showed a four x higher risk of pretty much everything, like allergic rhinitis. He lost his license and they retracted the paper, yet he continues advocating, saying it’s real data and that they’ve done everything to hide it. The study was objective and should have been headline news.

All vaccines, including COVID vaccines, are causing harm to children. There has never been a study comparing fully vaccinated kids following the CDC schedule to unvaccinated kids. The difference in health outcomes between these two groups is dramatic, with unvaccinated kids being consistently healthier. A 10-year study by Dr. Paul Thomas, which was retracted unethically, showed that vaccinated kids were more likely to get the diseases they were vaccinated against. A study by the control group with over 1,000 unvaccinated people also revealed significantly better health outcomes compared to fully vaccinated individuals. Despite promises, the CDC has never conducted a study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals. No vaccine is safe or effective, and no study has been able to prove otherwise.

The speaker claims that no childhood vaccine has ever undergone a safety trial using a double-blind, placebo-based study. They assert that this type of study, involving a saline injection as a placebo, is the only way to determine the safety of a pharmaceutical product. Furthermore, the speaker states that there has never been a study comparing the health outcomes of children who receive the full schedule of 72 (or potentially up to 90) vaccines to those who receive none. Because of the lack of safety studies and comparative data, the speaker chooses not to inject themselves or their children with vaccines. They want evidence that vaccines are safe and make people healthier.

"Chronic disease has gone from twelve point eight percent in our children in the nineteen eighties to over fifty four percent of our kids now." "72 times we are altering the immune system of our children with our vaccine program." "There'd be one easy study to rule it out, compare vaccinated children to completely unvaccinated children." "But we don't know because they've never done the study." "The vaccinated subjects were over four times more likely to have an asthma diagnosis." "Six hundred percent more acute and chronic ear infections." "Four point four seven times the amount of speech disorders in the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated." "Amongst the unvaccinated group, there were zero. There was zero brain dysfunction, zero diabetes, zero behavioral problems, zero learning disabilities, zero intellectual disabilities, zero tics, and zero other psychological disabilities."

The speaker hired an expert to analyze data from 2,700 variably vaccinated and 560 unvaccinated patients in their practice, age-matched for comparison. The speaker claims the data, available at doctorsandscience.com, reveals significant differences in health outcomes. According to the speaker's slides, unvaccinated children had lower rates of asthma, allergic rhinitis, eczema, sinusitis, gastroenteritis, respiratory infections, otitis media, conjunctivitis, other infections, breathing issues, and behavioral issues like ADD/ADHD. The speaker states there were no cases of ADD/ADHD in unvaccinated patients over 10 years. The speaker suggests vaccines shift the immune system towards allergy and autoimmunity, leading to more infections. The speaker argues that the association between vaccines and negative health outcomes is not coincidental, citing multiple studies and mechanisms of action, including aluminum and immune activation from too many vaccines too soon. The speaker states that the medical board revoked their license in response to this study.

Yeah. It's it's less than one percent of the public. The Amish are a perfect example of a large group of people who are largely unvaccinated. 'And there's no ought to we can't find an autistic kid who was unvaccinated. It's very, very rare in the Amish community. Very, very rare. You won't find kids with ADD, with autoimmune disease, with PANDA PANS, with epilepsy. You just don't find any of these chronic diseases in the Amish.' 'And, you know, the US government has been studying the Amish for decades, but there's never been a report out to the public.' 'The reason, of course, is it would it would show that, oh, if you don't follow our guidelines, you're gonna end up healthier.' 'That's why there's no report after decades of studying the Amish. There's no report because the report would be devastating to the narrative.'

Multiple studies, including those by Mawson, Thomas, and Hooker, Miller, suggest that not vaccinating children in today's environment leads to better health outcomes. These outcomes include lower rates of atopic dermatitis, asthma, the need for tympanostomy tubes, and neuropsychiatric disorders. The World Council For Health recommended in September 2023 to pause the childhood vaccine schedule and reevaluate it. Given this, I cannot advise parents to follow the current schedule, especially with the inclusion of COVID-19 vaccines.

Does vaccination make me healthier? And the answer from all of the unvaccinated control group studies to date is no. Vaccination increases your risk of suffering a lifelong debilitating disorder by over one thousand percent, 10 times greater. In our unvaccinated control group study of fourteen twenty eight Americans, we did not find a single case of diabetes. How is that possible? This is the power of an unvaccinated control group. It is statistically significant. It shows causation and causation is my interest as a lawyer. Autoimmune disorders. We could not find them in any significant number in the unvaccinated. We didn't find heart disease. We didn't find cancer. We didn't find sudden infant death syndrome. All of these conditions that are prevalent among the vaccinated population are simply absent among the unvaccinated.

Speaker 0 states that there are certain groups of people that don't take vaccines and don't take any pills that have no autism, that have no autism. 'Does that tell you something? That's currently is that a correct statement, by the way?' He adds, 'There are some studies that suggest that, yeah, with the Amish, for example.' 'The Amish.' 'Yeah. Virtually I hear no I I heard none.' He concludes, 'See, Bobby wants to be very careful with what he says, and he should, but I'm not so careful with what I say.'

The speaker cites the World Council for Health, stating that parents are urged to adopt a "common sense, safer to wait approach," which means deferring on the childhood vaccine schedule. The speaker asserts that five studies in the modern day show that "children who take no vaccines, none" are born healthy and remain healthier than children who receive vaccines. The claims include lower rates of food allergies and peanut allergies, attributed to the peanut excipients in vaccines. Additional cited outcomes for unvaccinated children include lower rates of asthma, allergic dermatitis, and a reduced need for tympanostomy tubes. The speaker also claims lower rates of attention deficit disorder, Asperger’s disease, and lower rates of autism spectrum disorder "by a mile." The overall assertion is that "massive excessive vaccination is likely harming our children today."

The speaker states they would not give their children the measles, mumps vaccine, claiming that measles was deadly in the early 1900s, but is now easily survivable, especially with Vitamin A. They claim studies show that contracting measles can make children healthier and more resistant to diseases later in life. The speaker denies causing a measles outbreak in Samoa, stating the Prime Minister had already banned the vaccine after deaths, and that people died from a bad vaccine imported from Australia, not measles. The speaker asserts that vaccines cause autism, citing a CDC study that showed an elevated risk of autism in children who received the hepatitis B vaccine within their first 30 days. They claim that studies disproving this link were fraudulent, conducted by "biostitutes" paid by the CDC, and that the lead scientist, Paul Thorensen, is a fugitive wanted for stealing money. The speaker claims there are hundreds of studies linking vaccines to autism and neurological injuries.

Speaker 0 argues that getting the vaccine for pertussis (whooping cough) makes it more likely to contract the disease than if one does not get the vaccine, claiming it increases lifetime risk of pertussis multiple times. They state that the most damning evidence is the comparison of death risk: from pertussis, the death risk is “less than two million,” whereas from the vaccine, the death risk is “more than one in seventy six thousand.” They interpret this as “30 times more likely that the vaccine will kill you than the disease.” Based on this information, Speaker 0 states that they would not risk their baby’s life with a “dangerous product” and prefer natural approaches to immune protection. They claim there are things that can be done naturally to boost a child’s immune system so they can fight off any infection, not just pertussis, and not just whooping cough, but everything. They describe a preference for “natural immunity,” calling it the innate, god-given immunity and the bodies and immune systems as “beautiful, amazing” compared to relying on a product they describe as unsafe and lacking safety testing. In sum, Speaker 0 presents a comparison of disease risk versus vaccine risk, emphasizing that death from the vaccine is framed as significantly higher than death from the disease, and they advocate foregoing vaccination in favor of natural immunity.

Speaker 1 states that less than one percent of the public is totally unvaccinated. The Amish are given as an example of a largely unvaccinated group. Speaker 1 claims it is very rare to find an autistic child in the Amish community, and that ADD, autoimmune disease, PANDA PANS, and epilepsy are also rare. Speaker 1 asserts the U.S. government has studied the Amish for decades, but has not released a report. Speaker 1 believes the reason for this is that the report would show that not following government guidelines leads to better health outcomes. Speaker 1 concludes that the report would be devastating to the narrative and would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades by burying data.

First speaker: The question is about how many people are totally unvaccinated, and whether this is mainly among parents who stepped up. The claim is that it’s a very small percentage because many people blindly followed the vaccination recommendations for children. Second speaker: It’s less than one percent of the public who are unvaccinated. The Amish are given as a perfect example of a large group that is largely unvaccinated. The speaker asserts that you won’t find an autistic child who was unvaccinated, and that such chronic diseases as ADD, autoimmune diseases, PANDA/PANS, and epilepsy are very rare in the Amish community. The speaker claims that the US government has studied the Amish for decades, but there has never been a public report. The reason given is that such a report would show that not following the guidelines leads to healthier outcomes, and therefore there would be a disclosure that would be devastating to the narrative. According to the speaker, there is no public report because it would reveal that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and is bearing all the data privately.