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Speaker 0 asserts that Nine-Eleven began as commercial insurance fraud and that in 1988 the Twin Towers were condemned because they did not want to pay to dismantle them, with controlled demolitions forbidden. He says Dick Cheney, as secretary of defense, responded, “praise the lord,” expecting a terrorism event to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan. He claims Nine-Eleven was planned and executed by “the Zionists,” clarified as not the Jews, describing a “red mafia”—Russians, Israelis, and Americans—controlling Benjamin Netanyahu but not Donald Trump, who he says is biding his time. He contends the NSA is not about safety but keeping money moving, and that the program was canceled because it would reveal Americans complicit in Nine-Eleven. He alleges the intelligence community wastes money on bad actions, focusing only on war and terrorism, and that they start wars and fund terrorists. Speaker 1 recounts a group of Zionists negotiating with the Nazis to allow German Jews to immigrate and transfer assets to Palestine, citing the 1933 Transfer Agreement. He notes that German Jewish settlement in Palestine was Nazi policy for a time and references Der Angriff publishing photos of Jewish life in Palestine with a Nazi series; a medal by Gerbils commemorating this, showing a swastika and Star of David. He states Hitler demanded Zionists reject the call for a boycott of the Reich, which the Zionists conceded. Speaker 2 says some allies have been funding ISIS and Al Qaeda, asks who, implying Saudis and others, and notes that people know this but do not say it publicly. Speaker 3 explains that CIA, Mossad, and intelligence agencies are unnamed but suggests Mossad is under the prime minister’s office and would be called the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service, joking that initials would be ISIS. Speaker 7 makes a snide remark about Julian Maxwell’s father being an Israeli super spy, and Speaker 5 references “antiseptic, Jenny.” Speaker 8 discusses building a relationship with some unspecified actors and acknowledges a trust deficit; he recalls the U.S. support of fighters in Afghanistan against the Soviets, arming mujahideen with Stinger missiles, and leaving them after the Soviet withdrawal, admitting the U.S. helped create the next problems. He notes a pattern of moving in and out of Pakistan, emphasizing that the current fight involves people funded two decades earlier. Speaker 3 adds details about Brzezinski’s 1980s effort to arm the mujahideen while concealing U.S. involvement, speaking warmly of the fighters and their cause. Speaker 4/Speaker 10 discuss a 2017 plan to push against Russia, portraying the fight as against Putin rather than the Russian people, with commitments to inform the American public of Afghan bravery and to support the effort against Putin; Speaker 10 expresses confidence in winning and receiving support. Speaker 11 shifts to the U.S., asking about the assassination of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan; Speaker 12 responds that bin Laden was trained by the ISI and CIA along with Al Qaeda two decades earlier, stating that these groups were assets of the Pakistan Army and the ISI. Overall, the transcript presents a series of unverified conspiracy claims about 9/11, Zionist influence, NSA motives, Nazi-Zionist interactions, international funding of extremist groups, and U.S. covert actions in Afghanistan/Pakistan, interwoven with insinuations about intelligence agencies and state actors.

The speaker researched false flag attacks, citing the Gulf of Tonkin, the USS Liberty incident, and Operation Ajax as examples. They claim to have seen preprogramming in the news about an impending attack by Bin Laden. The speaker claims to have predicted the specifics of 9/11, stating they said the CIA would fly planes into the World Trade Centers and blame it on Bin Laden. They allege that intelligence agencies were tracking the supposed hijackers, who were being trained in US military bases and funded by multiple governments. They add that Bin Laden was a CIA asset used to destabilize areas and act as a boogeyman. They cite the 1990s World Trade Center bombing attempt involving Ahmad Salam, and the structural issues of the World Trade Center as contributing factors. They also mention the Project for the New American Century document, which stated that a new Pearl Harbor event was needed to launch the Pax Americana. The speaker claims the document also mentioned race-specific bioweapons.

The speaker claims that the War on Terror is an Israeli stratagem pushed by Netanyahu since 1979. They argue that Donald Trump supported this lie by engaging in Afghanistan. The speaker questions the purpose of the US presence in Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq, suggesting that the American people were not informed about the true motives behind these wars. They mention a plan called Ynon, which aims to break up Arab states into smaller ethnic statelets. The speaker also discusses the destruction of cities like Mosul and Raqqa and the Israeli support for Kurdish independence. They conclude by urging people to question the official narrative of 9/11 and the War on Terror.

An individual states they didn't get rich in Congress and questions how people like Biden and Obama acquired wealth while in public service. They claim many informed individuals, including former high-ranking officials from the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, and advisors to Obama, privately believe "the 9/11 report was just silly" and a cover-up. While these individuals are aware of the truth, they are unwilling to come forward publicly. The speaker asserts their credibility on the topic, noting their long-standing involvement and endorsements from figures like Donald Rumsfeld. They reiterate that those with access to real intelligence believe there is more to the events of 9/11 than what has been disclosed.

"In the morning of 09/11/2001, 19 men armed with box cutters directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily defended airspace in the world." "Osama bin Laden." "NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC seven's collapse." "This man never existed nor is anything he had to say worthy of your attention." "They dumped his body in the ocean before telling anyone about it." "The rescue of Jessica Lynch." "This is the story of nine eleven brought to you by the media which told you the hard truths about"

Speaker 0 asserts that 9/11 was a MacLeod operation and emphasizes that the third World Trade Center building (WTC 7) went down as evidence; he argues that if one building was wired for demolition, all of them were. He states that after showing this to contacts at the Army War College and the headquarters Marine Corps, it became clear to him that 9/11 was a controlled demolition scenario. He claims that 09/11 led directly to sixty thousand Americans dead and wounded, and suggests hundreds of thousands more in other countries were killed, wounded, or made homeless. He warns that if Americans ever understand that Israel did this, they will “scrub them off the earth” and will not care about the cost, implying that Zionists are conducting an all-or-nothing strategy because losing this would end them. He contends that it will be a “bloody brutal war” and that the Zionists are “gone” if Americans realize what happened. He reiterates that three buildings went down, with the third not being hit by a plane, and that it was wired for controlled demolition, implying all of them were. He describes presenting a picture and asking others to simply look at it without argument, and states that, without exception, they concluded that they did it on 9/11. Speaker 1 recalls that at the time of the event, he did not know who did it, but based on his experience in the Marine Corps and in demolition, it was definitely a controlled blast, a controlled drop, and that this could not be denied.

I have spoken with military contacts and made it clear that 9/11 was an inside job. Showing them footage of the World Trade Center's third building collapsing convinced them. If Americans realize Israel's involvement, Israel will be wiped out. The Zionists see it as a do-or-die situation. The controlled demolition of the third building proves all were wired for demolition. When shown the evidence, people agree that 9/11 was orchestrated by Israel.

The speaker discusses unanswered questions about 9/11, such as the missing black boxes, the collapse of Building 7, and suspicious war games. Another speaker agrees, highlighting the importance of addressing these issues that have led to wars and loss of lives. They commend Seaspan for focusing on this topic.

The first participant asks the second to identify who did each major event. For MLK Jr., the second participant says, “That was a CI operation because they considered him a dangerous communist. And but the FBI was bugging the, in churches where he was giving some of his speeches in churches. They were bugging the podiums and following him around. He was a top target, for elimination.” For JFK, the second participant states, “I think that was a CI hit. They they may have employed some mafia connections to carry it out because that was their mafia assassination program.” Concerning LBJ, the first participant notes, “LBJ was very involved in all that in Dallas. So,” and the second participant adds, “he an evil man.” The first participant affirms, “He was an evil man.” Turning to Pearl Harbor, the second participant claims, “They knew the attack was coming was coming. They knew where it was gonna happen in Pearl Harbor and when. And they they told no one, and they let it happen on purpose. That that's from the commander of the Pacific Fleet. I would say that's a pretty pretty credible witness.” He continues, “So, yeah, that that was a false admitted that. They admitted they had the and they heard it was gonna happen. And, you how know, else were you gonna get Americans to be on the side of this war that had nothing to do with us?” This leads to the discussion of 9/11. The second participant says, “My opinion. As a criminal investigator, as a former CI officer, nine eleven was not the act of a bunch of poorly flight trained terrorists that executed an unbelievably meticulous, piloting of those aircraft, even even pilots. There's there's pilots for nine eleven truth now, and they say, we could not have done that. Not possible.” He adds, “And then we go to the passport issue, and we go to the Tower 7, which was a controlled demolition.” The second participant further asserts, “You talk to any structural engineer, and and and I I have. And the fact I think George w Bush blacked out. I think it was 40 pages of the 09/11 report dealing with Saudi Arabia. So what wait a minute. This report was supposed to be for the American people on what happened, and you blacked all these pages out? What in the world?” He continues, “I do not think that it was a bunch of un poorly trained or untrained terrorists that did it. I think there was another source behind it. I think it was intentional, and I'm going just from a a criminal invest investigative perspective just looking at the evidence, what evidence we have, that that was an intentional act, And it would fall right into the MO that you and I are talking about.” He concludes that the event was “Horrible” and emphasizes that “the shadow government deep state or especially the CIA. It does not matter. Their pawns on their chessboard, they don't care that three thousand people were horribly killed that day, but it achieved the aim of gutting the US constitution, bringing in the horrific Patriot Act Mhmm. Giving the CIA unthinkable authority for secret prison prisons and torture beyond waterboarding and and secret renditions and all of that, the FBI, the ability to to, spy on Americans came out of the Patriot Act. So it was the perfect national security state, energizer that the Patriot Act was, and 70 of the congressmen and senators that read the Patriot Act didn't even read it. They just signed off on it without even reading the bill.”

Speaker 0: Probably the best known builder, particularly of of of great buildings in the city. There's a great deal of question about whether or not the damage and and the ultimate destruction of the buildings was caused by the airplanes, by architectural defect, or possibly by bombs or or aftershocks. Do you have any thoughts on that? Speaker 1: Well, it was an architectural defect. You know, the World Trade Center was always known as a very, very strong building. Don't forget, that took a big bomb in the basement. Now the basement is the most vulnerable place because that's your foundation, and it withstood that. And I got to see that area about three or four days after it took place because one of my structural engineers actually took me for a tour because he did the building. And I said, I can't believe it. The building was standing solid, and half of the columns were blown out. I mean, so this was an unbelievably powerful building. If you know anything about structure, it was one of the first buildings that was built from the outside. The steel, the reason the World Trade Center had such narrow windows is that in between all the windows, you had the steel on the outside. So you had the steel on the outside of the building. That's why when I first looked and you had big heavy I beams. When I first looked at it, I couldn't believe it because there was a hole in the steel. And this is steel that was you remember the the width of the windows in the World Trade Center folks? I think you you know, if you're ever up there, they were quite narrow. And in between was this heavy steel. I said, how could a plane, even a plane, even a seven sixty seven or seven forty seven or whatever it might have been, how could it possibly go through this deal? I happen to think that they had not only a plane, but they had bombs that exploded almost simultaneously because I just can't imagine anything being able to go through that wall. Most buildings are built with the steelers on the inside around the elevator shaft. This one was built from the outside, which is the strongest structure you can have, and it was almost just like a like a can of soup. Speaker 2: You know, Donald, we were looking at pictures all morning long of that plane coming into Building Number 2. And when you see that approach the far side and then all of a sudden, within a matter of millisecond, the explosion pops out the other side. Speaker 1: Right. I just think that there was a plane with more than just fuel. I think, obviously, they were very big planes. They were going very rapidly because I was also watching where the plane seemed to be not only going fast, it seemed to be coming down into the building. So it was getting the speed from going downhill, so to speak. It just seemed to me that to do that kind of destruction is even more than a big plane because you're talking about taking out steel, the heaviest caliber steel that was used on a building. I mean, these buildings were rock solid, And, you know, it's just an amazing it's an amazing thing. Speaker 3: And it's not right to call up and then extrapolate and connect him to 09:11 when he came out on the day of 09:11 and the day after on Fox and on CNN and said, I believe there had to be bombs in those buildings. It was brought down by explosives. A plane doesn't do that. And then described the architecture of Tower 1 and Tower 2. If he was an insider, he wouldn't have said that. Speaker 4: A lot of people ask, how is it possible that, a Boeing plane would be able to destroy the or two planes would be able to destroy the Twin Towers because they were constructed to withstand like a 07/2007 Speaker 5: attack. It's tremendous power and tremendous heat, and people were willing to die. And when they're willing to die and when they're willing to become kamikazes of a sense, there's very little you can do about it. I mean, the the heat and the power actually, it was amazing that the the initial jolts didn't jar the building as much as people would have thought. But the the tremendous amounts of fuel that was dumped on the building and 1,600 degrees temperature, I guess that's probab

Nine eleven started as commercial insurance fraud. It was known in 1988 that the Twin Towers were condemned because they didn't wanna pay the $2,000,000,000 to dismantle the buildings the hard way. Controlled demolitions was forbidden. When that was briefed to Dick Cheney as secretary of defense, I believe he said, praise the lord. This is going to be a terrorism event that will give us a reason for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. And at that point, the nine eleven, which was planned and executed by the Zionists, which is not the Jews. When I say Zionists, I'm talking about what's called the red mafia. That's the Russians, Israelis, and Americans who are a criminal network that happens to control Benjamin Netanyahu. It does not control Donald Trump. People don't understand that Trump is biding his time. The NSA is not about solving problems or making America safe. It's about keeping the money moving. The second reason that the program was canceled was because it was starting to reveal all of the Americans who were complicit in nine eleven. The problem we have in The United States is that the intelligence community is all about spending a great deal of money doing very bad things. So let's say overall, there's about 300 things that the intelligence community should be reporting on. They don't. They report on two things, war and terrorism. And in both cases, they're the ones starting the wars and funding the terrorists.

A person questions how a plane, even a large one like a 767 or 747, could have caused the destruction of the World Trade Center. They suggest that bombs may have been involved due to the difficulty of a plane penetrating the building. The speaker also mentions that most buildings have steel on the inside, but the World Trade Center was built with steel on the outside, making it stronger. Another person agrees, mentioning the explosion that occurred on the other side of the building. The first person believes that the planes used in the attacks were not only carrying fuel but also something else. They note the speed and trajectory of the planes, suggesting that the destruction caused was more than what a plane alone could do. The speaker concludes by stating that the events of 9/11 have forever changed the country.

I spoke with contacts at the Army War College and Headquarters Marine Corps, informing them that 9/11 was a controlled demolition. I showed them footage of the third building at the World Trade Center collapsing, indicating that all the buildings were wired for demolition. If Americans ever find out that Israel was behind this, they will retaliate without considering the consequences. The Zionists are playing a high-stakes game, as losing this battle would result in their downfall. The evidence is clear: three buildings collapsed, and the third was not hit by a plane. When I presented this information, everyone agreed that Israel was responsible for 9/11.

Speaker argues that all theories about 9/11 hinge on foreknowledge. "huge bets put in the public financial markets against shorting the airlines involved in nine eleven and the banks and the buildings that were collapsed." The "FBI found out who made those trades and has hidden the names for twenty four years." They sought a real investigation, noting "the first one by Philip Zellico was fake, and he was basically just a cutout for Condie Rice, the former National Security Advisor." He advocates action: "we're gonna actually chain ourselves to the gates of the FBI until you tell us this." He calls 9/11 "the second most important thing that happened, in my opinion, in American history first was killing president Kennedy." He adds, "there may have been foreign involvement, very likely foreign involvement in that. I can't say conclusively, but I think that's true." "America was changed completely by that day."

The speaker claims the only high-rise buildings to collapse from airplane impacts were the World Trade Center towers. They cite an architect's report stating the buildings were designed to withstand such impacts. One speaker says the collapses defied physics, stating that the upper sections should have destroyed the lower sections, not crushed them. Another speaker says the collapse of Building 7, which was not hit by a plane, resembled a controlled demolition. A fire battalion chief, Oriole Palmer, reported being on the 78th floor, the floor of impact, and said they had two fires under control one minute before the building collapsed. The speaker alleges a cover-up related to 9/11, claiming the 9/11 Commission was part of it, led by Philip Zelikow, who was allegedly handpicked by Condoleezza Rice. They say Zelikow met with Tony Schaeffer in Afghanistan and then targeted him upon his return to the US. The speaker says they called it a scandal bigger than Watergate.

Former Pennsylvania GOP rep Kurt Weldon is calling for a Trump administration investigation into 9/11, claiming it will be the "biggest scandal in American history." He questions the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings, noting they are the only high-rises to ever collapse from airplane impacts, and that they were designed to withstand such impacts. A firefighter who ascended to the 78th floor of one of the towers reported two controllable fires moments before the building's collapse. Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, also collapsed. An insurance expert stated that a 47-story building doesn't just collapse from fire. A BBC report announced the collapse of the Salomon Brothers building (WTC 7) while it was still standing in the background. Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, stated that "they made the decision to pull Building 7," implying a controlled demolition. The speaker suggests that the truth about 9/11 could change the country, referencing the Patriot Act and TSA checkpoints as consequences of the event.

I'm a former Zionist and Jew, here to explore the truth. Many Americans understand the dynamics at play. On 9/11, the collapse of World Trade Center 7 raised questions of controlled demolition, linked to Israeli financier Larry Silverstein. Netanyahu reportedly stated that the 9/11 attacks shifted American public opinion in favor of Israel. The narrative suggests Israel aimed to incite fear and justify wars in the Middle East. Claims are made that Al Qaeda and ISIS were created by Israel's Mossad and the CIA to manipulate public perception. Recent events, including the October 7, 2023 incident, are framed as justifications for ongoing violence against Palestinians. Historical context reveals tensions between JFK and LBJ regarding Israel, with JFK advocating for disarmament and Palestinian rights, while LBJ supported Israeli expansionism. The narrative critiques U.S. complicity in Israeli actions and the broader implications for peace.

Speaker 1 asserts a distinction in liberty while recalling voting for Ron Paul in '88, then condemns "this nonsense about 09/11 that morons like you keep bringing up," calling it "the most loathsome thing to say." Speaker 0 says it's not his shtick and questions why the other walked out of the convention. They argue that "it discredits libertarianism and the ideas of Ron Paul and liberty itself" to "imply that there was a conspiracy behind nine eleven, you ought have some evidence." Speaker 0 asks, "You don't think Alex Jones has brought thousands of people to the message of liberty?" Speaker 1 replies he doesn't know Alex Jones and has "no feelings about him," but stresses that, "in order to imply that there was a conspiracy behind nine eleven, you ought have some evidence." They note coincidences and differences among audiences, and mention respect for differing issues.

Nine eleven started as commercial insurance fraud. It was known in 1988 that the Twin Towers were condemned because they didn't wanna pay the $2,000,000,000 to dismantle the buildings the hard way. Controlled demolitions was forbidden. When that was briefed to Dick Cheney as secretary of defense, I believe he said, praise the lord. This is going to be a terrorism event that will give us a reason for invading Iraq Afghanistan. And at that point, the nine eleven, which was planned and executed by the Zionists, which is not the Jews. When I say Zionists, I'm talking about what's called the red mafia. That's the Russians, Israelis, and Americans who are a criminal network that happens to control Benjamin Netanyahu. It does not control Donald Trump. People don't understand that Trump is biding his time. The NSA is not about solving problems or making America safe. It's about keeping the money moving. The second reason that the program was canceled was because it was starting to reveal all of the Americans who were complicit in nine eleven. The problem we have in The United States is that the intelligence community is all about spending a great deal of money doing very bad things. So let's say overall, there's about 300 things that the intelligence community should be reporting on. They don't. They report on two things, war and terrorism. And in both cases, they're the ones starting the wars and funding the terrorists.

Speaker 0 asserts that 9/11 is the biggest lie of our lifetime and that he was on-site, believing it may have been a false flag. He states it is obvious to him that Building 7 was a controlled demolition because the building collapses from the bottom down, a uniform collapse requiring all load-bearing columns to fail simultaneously; he contrasts this with the Twin Towers, which he says collapse top-down in a progressive collapse. He notes that the trade centers were designed to withstand jet impacts and, referencing his experience in heavy construction, describes the outer columns as a “fishnet” and the inner core columns as thick steel beams capable of withstanding four to five times the loads. He claims engineers routinely over-design buildings. He mentions that dust samples contained what is called thermitic material, described as an explosive incendiary, and cites documented reports. He alleges extensive elevator renovations in the two to three years prior to 9/11, that many workers had access to the cores of the buildings, and that on the day of the attack the elevator company would not assist in elevator operations and subsequently went out of business. He references sworn firefighter testimonies a couple of years after 9/11 about explosions in the buildings and asserts these were suppressed, as Building 7 was ignored in the 9/11 Commission Report. Regarding Al Qaeda, he contends that Al Qaeda’s role is something he does not think exists, suggesting it is made up. He recalls the FBI’s 2006 statement that there was no concrete evidence linking Osama bin Laden with 9/11 and notes that Osama bin Laden worked for the CIA in Afghanistan, helping fight the Russians, and that the CIA helped orchestrate 9/11, calling it “their plan.”

Speaker 1 discusses his involvement in 9/11-related inquiries after receiving concerns from families. He emphasizes the role of whistleblowers who fear disclosure of anonymity, noting that while his office is good at protecting identities, not every congressional office is. He credits investigative reporters for bringing information forward and explains that his involvement began when nine/eleven families approached him with a heavily redacted FBI report on Saudi involvement, asking for it to be unredacted. He mentions that Richard Blumenthal is the chairman of PSI in the last Congress and that the inquiry extended to topics like the PGA Tour’s deal with Live Golf and Saudi Arabia, but that those are private matters not to be intruded upon. He says, however, that due to the redacted FBI document about Saudi involvement, he started gathering information and is currently in a position to review it, with an invitation to the audience to share information, though with the expectation that information will be debunked by his staff. He notes his own background from Oshkosh, Wisconsin, and that he initially accepted the prevailing narrative about 9/11 but began receiving information from sources that challenged it, leading him to pursue a more open investigation. He stresses that his staff’s primary goal is to obtain information and debunk it, to poke holes in the claims, and that he does not want to avoid discussing the topic. He acknowledges there are many legitimate questions that he is willing to ask, starting with World Trade Center 7, a building he had not heard of before. He asks why it is so difficult to discuss these topics and why legitimate questions seem to be quashed, suggesting there is something unexplained that has not been disclosed. He mentions public reception, including hostile comments online, and notes that many Americans had never heard of World Trade Center 7. Speaker 1 describes the scene surrounding WTC7, including a BBC reporter on air describing its collapse while the building still appears to be standing behind her. He points to a video that appears to show a single perspective of the event and references a later interview with a controlled demolition expert who asserted it was controlled demolition, though this assertion predates the event. He emphasizes that the building collapsed on September 11, and there are unanswered questions. He recounts Graham McQueen’s investigation before his death, who compiled approximately 150 documented recordings from first responders and reporters on the morning of 9/11 who said they heard explosions. He states that the 9/11 Commission and NIST did not discuss these explosions. He mentions Barry Jennings, who was in Building 7, who had to evacuate, but could not gather because the stairwell between the 6th and 8th floors had been blown out.

Speaker 0: Alleging not simply a cover up by the US government, but by the entire American media. It's totally implausible. Like, we would report that if that were true. Building 7 was not hit by an airplane. Speaker 3: That's seen Building 7 collapse, the Sallon Brothers building? No. I wanna show you that right now. Speaker 4: Now here, we're gonna show you a videotape of the collapse itself. Describe that feeling. Now we go to videotape the collapse of this building. It's amazing. Amazing. Speaker 3: I t's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building was deliberately store destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down. No plane hit that building. Speaker 6: Well, it starts with Building 7. Yes. Where you look at that and it just yeah. I mean, this this is really weird. You know, it it does come down just like a, you know, building demolition type of project. When you start putting together at what temperature steel melts. They had molten steel in the twin towers, and I'm not sure we had a number seven. Speaker 0: I never questioned anything about nine eleven, and I actively attacked people who did. I'm ashamed of that, but that's a fact. Speaker 6: And, of course, the Overton window is is is is about this is what you can discuss without threat or without, you know, risk. And but you gotta go beyond that. Speaker 0: What began to make me wonder, I have no idea what happened in 09/11, but it's very clear that there's a lot of lying around it, was the collapse of Building 7. Speaker 0: because I was part of the cover up, and I feel guilty about it. That's why. And I'm trying to atone for my previous sense. That's the real reason. Speaker 0: I did it on tape more than once because my feeling was, well, you know, like, that's divisive or whatever. I was a child and an idiot.

Richard Gage, founder of Architecture and Engineers nine eleven truth, leads a group with thousands of members and international attention, calling for a real investigation of the destruction of the three center high rises on 911. Speaking in Toronto for the truth hearing, he says, "I'm representing 1,500 architects and engineers. Now 1,560 actually. And these are demanding a real investigation of destruction of the three center high rises on 911." He asserts that "the people on the street understand that Building 7 is a demolition." He adds that "every architect and engineer that I talked to almost without exception really. When they see Building 7, they agree it is a controlled demolition. And then they're just shocked." "Their jaws are open." "They're receptive to hearing the evidence about the Twin Towers, which of course, unfortunately, is is replete with evidence, science based forensic evidence, documenting its controlled demolition."

The discussion centers on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11, which was not hit by a plane. A video clip shows the building's collapse, described as reminiscent of a controlled demolition. One speaker recalls news reports announcing the building's collapse before it happened. Another speaker, with a background in fire protection and insurance, states that a 47-story building doesn't typically collapse due to fire. One speaker admits to previously attacking 9/11 conspiracy theorists but now questions the official narrative, particularly regarding Building 7. An Alaskan structural engineering professor's four-year study allegedly debunks the NIST analysis of the collapse. Molten steel was reportedly present in the Twin Towers. The symmetrical nature of Building 7's collapse is questioned, with one speaker suggesting it resembles a controlled demolition. One speaker suggests they broadened the Overton window on the topic because they were part of the cover-up and feel guilty.