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The speaker states that dozens of people have already left, with the civil division down 30% as of a week ago, and likely more now. While some may see opportunity amidst the departures, there is peril because there will be an accounting for lawyers who violated their ethical obligations and rules of professional responsibility. Many things Trump's attorneys are promising would violate those responsibilities. Many arguments being made in court, seemingly directed by the administration, are close to violating ethical lines because they don't appear fact-based. The speaker uses the example of being told to say Elon Musk has no authority. Judges are recognizing these arguments as shams. The speaker expresses being torn, having spent decades at the department.

After three weeks of training, the speaker received a litigation hold and a memo granting permission to fire probationary employees from the capital c section who had been moved within the office. The memo referenced people but lacked specific names, causing confusion. Upon returning to the office, the speaker and colleagues were met with confusion and heartbreak. Two hours later, termination letters began to arrive. Ultimately, 15 assistant US attorneys were fired. The speaker's termination letter cited actions and prosecutions related to the events at or near the US Capitol on 01/06/2021. It referenced an executive order characterizing the work as a grave national injustice and stated that the speaker's hiring hindered the acting US attorney's ability to implement President Trump's agenda. The speaker believes the US attorneys represent the United States, not the president. The speaker believes that firing 15 qualified attorneys created a problem.

As a former 18-year veteran of the Department of Justice, I now lead a group called Justice Connection, aiding current DOJ employees facing demotions, firings, and threats from various sources, including January 6th rioters and those believing in the "deep state" narrative. These individuals are terrified for their careers and personal safety due to increased doxxing and harassment. The current environment within the FBI and DOJ is destabilized, impacting morale and daily functions, making it harder to focus on critical tasks like counterterrorism. While the administration defends personnel moves as aligning with its priorities, the safety and security of dedicated DOJ employees is at risk, especially with doxxing and harassment being criminal offenses.

There are reports of FBI lawyers claiming that actions against certain employees could be unconstitutional. Norm Eisen and Mark Zaid have warned the DOJ about potential legal action if the Trump administration attempts to remove or reassign FBI or DOJ staff. This is ironic, given their past violations of due process rights for January 6 defendants. Meanwhile, rumors suggest an impending FBI walkout, with some agents urged to stand their ground. One New York FBI field office director emphasized entitlement to their jobs. A walkout could expose the agents’ sense of entitlement and accountability for eroding public trust in the DOJ and FBI.

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Martin's email targets former federal prosecutor Ashley Akers, who recently criticized his review as a "wild goose chase." He expressed surprise at her comments, stating he has never met her and suggesting her issues may stem from her past supervisors. Alexis Loeb, another federal prosecutor, found it unsettling that Martin specifically named Akers, asserting that her remarks were based on factual evidence presented in trials. She emphasized the importance of understanding the facts surrounding the January 6th Capitol events, clarifying that the prosecutions were not politically motivated but were carried out by dedicated Department of Justice employees and FBI agents from diverse backgrounds, united in their commitment to uphold the law and protect the democratic process.

Why isn't FBI Director Chris Wray publicly defending his department's actions regarding the January 6th investigation? His resignation implies a lack of apolitical integrity within the FBI, suggesting that each presidential administration dictates priorities, rather than upholding a consistent, unbiased approach. This leaves the impression that wrongdoing occurred. The prioritization of the January 6th investigation over other crucial cases, like those involving child sex trafficking and serial killers, has negatively impacted agents' morale. However, some pushback exists; DC judges, including those appointed by both Republican and Democratic presidents, have openly criticized the Department of Justice's actions, refusing to allow these cases to be dismissed. Their outspokenness provides a counterpoint to the perceived silence from other quarters.

People are scared because they suddenly lost their financial security. Just weeks ago, they knew how to cover childcare and medical bills, but now everything's gone. Christina Drey and Adam Dubard were fired this month during the shutdown of foreign aid distributed by USAID. The administration sent over 8,000 USAID employees home, seemingly based on loyalty rather than competence. These dedicated public servants, with decades of experience across multiple administrations, were abruptly dismissed. They were reportedly emailed and then escorted out of the building, without any clear explanation. They couldn't even return. There was no process or explanation given to them.

The speaker met with Mr. Martin, who seems like a good man. The speaker's concerns related to January 6th. Mr. Martin built a compelling case regarding some prosecutions that were heat-of-the-moment bad decisions. The speaker believes anyone who reached the perimeter on January 6th should have been imprisoned for some period of time and has no tolerance for anyone who entered the building. Mr. Martin explained how some people got caught up in it, making a stupid decision to enter a breached building. The speaker's issue isn't whether they should be charged, but by how much. The speaker believes what happened on January 6th was wrong, not prompted by others, and those involved disgraced the United States. Mr. Martin explained that some people were over-prosecuted, and the speaker agreed that some should not have been pardoned. The speaker would support Mr. Martin as a US attorney for any district except the one where January 6th happened and has indicated to the White House that they wouldn't support his nomination.

People are really scared because overnight, many lost their next paycheck and ability to pay for childcare and medical bills. Christina Drey and Adam Dubard were fired this month amidst the chaotic shutdown of foreign aid distributed by USAID. Over 8,000 USAID employees were sent home, not based on competency but on loyalty tests. These are people with decades of public service across administrations, and they had to leave the building immediately. As far as I know, they received an email, and if they didn't leave, they were escorted out. There was no process or explanation given to them.

After being forced to retire by the Trump administration, I walked out of 26 Federal Plaza to a cheering crowd. My departure came after a battle with the Trump Justice Department, who wanted the names of FBI agents involved in the January 6 investigations. I spoke briefly to the current and former FBI, NYPD, and other law enforcement officials who came to see me off, telling them, "I will always be faithful to this country, to this organization, and most of all, I will always be faithful to you. And I appreciate you being faithful to me, to this office, and more importantly, our mission." I was given the choice to resign or be fired. It is unknown who the new Trump FBI director, Kash Patel, will choose to lead the FBI field office.

The Justice Department has prosecuted over 1400 individuals for interfering with the peaceful transfer of power. These prosecutions demonstrate how seriously the department takes efforts to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power, whether regarding the last January 6th, the coming January 6th, or any January 6th in the future. The Justice Department aims to make clear to anyone contemplating interference that they can see the consequences based on the January 6th prosecutions. The Justice Department will continue to protect democracy.

Two long-term prosecutors were reportedly fired from US attorney's offices with no warning, allegedly on behalf of Donald Trump. According to the New York Times, prosecutor Adam Schleifer was working on a case against the founder of Fatburger when he received an email from a White House official stating he was terminated. Schleifer, shocked by the message, discovered his work phone had been reset and he could no longer use office devices. The New York Times reports that far-right influencer Laura Loomer had posted on social media about Schleifer exactly one hour before he received the termination email, calling him a "Biden holdover."

After three weeks of training, the speaker saw a litigation hold on their phone with a memo giving Mr. Martin permission to fire probationary employees from the capital c section. The memo referenced people but didn't have a list of names. The speaker headed back to the office and was met by colleagues who shared their confusion. Two hours later, letters terminating them started rolling in. At the end of the night, 15 assistant U. S. Attorneys had been fired. The termination letter stated the decision was based on actions and the prosecution of persons relating to the events that occurred at or near The U. S. Capitol on 01/06/2021. An executive order characterized that work as having involved a grave national injustice. The speaker's hiring hindered the ability of the acting US attorney Martin to staff his office in furtherance of his obligation to faithfully implement the agenda that the American people elected president Trump to SCU. The termination letter made it clear that mister Martin does not understand the role of a prosecutor. Firing 15 qualified attorneys created an immediate deficit in the office to appropriately prosecute cases.

Speaker 1, Julie Kelly, asserts that the new leadership at the DOJ and FBI may not be aware of who Jocelyn Ballantyne is, describing her as lead prosecutor who "led the team of government lawyers, DOJ lawyers, who went after the Proud Boys" and labeling her as "among the worst of the worst." Kelly references her experience covering the Proud Boys trial in 2023 and states that Ballantyne was near the top of Kelly’s list of j-six prosecutors who should be fired. Kelly recounts a scandal from the Proud Boys trial involving a spreadsheet of FBI correspondence in which agents discussed destroying evidence, surveilling, and eavesdropping on communications between Proud Boys who were in pretrial detention federal prison and their attorneys. She notes that the defense, during the trial, discovered this spreadsheet accidentally and intended to use the information as evidence. According to Kelly, the defense attempted to question an FBI agent who was a government witness and planned to present what they found in the spreadsheet. She describes that, as the defense began to present this evidence, Judge Tim Kelly—who, she says, is good friends with Jocelyn Ballantyne and had worked with her in the DC U.S. attorney’s office on cases—abruptly cut off the questioning. A day or two later, Ballantyne went into court and claimed that the communication represented classified secrets and should be withheld from the jury, a move Kelly characterizes as being aligned with Ballantyne’s actions. Kelly asserts that Judge Kelly went along with this claim to withhold the information. Kelly emphasizes that Ballantyne led the team of prosecutors against the Proud Boys, who were convicted of seditious conspiracy. She notes that Ballantyne then pursued severe sentences, including some defendants receiving life terms, such as Lindsay Attario, who Kelly says ended up with a twenty-two year prison sentence before those sentences were commuted by the president. Speaker 0 interjects multiple times with questions and expressions of disbelief, urging Julie Kelly to explain how such actions could be true and challenging the notion that Ballantyne’s conduct was inappropriate, while Kelly maintains that the described conduct and the actions taken by Ballantyne and the DOJ were part of the Proud Boys prosecutions and related cases.

Trump informed Gates that he lacked the necessary votes, with at least five Republicans firmly opposing him. Gates intended to shake up the department but faced setbacks due to a hacker allegedly leaking damaging files related to him. The narrative suggests that this was orchestrated by Democrats, with the DOJ leaking classified information. Despite the chaos, the FBI is not investigating the hack, and Gates faced no charges after a two-year inquiry. There’s relief over Gates stepping down, but concerns remain about Pam Bondi, who is expected to be confirmed and has a similar agenda to Gates. Bondi is seen as competent and capable, raising fears among those who value liberty and justice that she may effectively pursue her objectives.

The FBI allegedly maintains a list of over 5,000 employees involved in the January 6 investigation, though US Attorneys are reportedly not included. Some individuals are purportedly being treated poorly for performing their assigned duties related to the investigation. These duties involved investigating facts and applying them to legal standards as guided by prosecutors. This work is described as non-political.

I joined the FBI in 2014, focusing on violent crimes on Indian reservations and later on child pornography and human trafficking in Florida. In 2021, I was reassigned to domestic terrorism, where I became concerned about the January 6 investigations. I noticed the FBI was straying from its guidelines, which I believed jeopardized important cases and public safety. After raising my concerns, my security clearance was suspended, and I was placed in an unpaid position indefinitely. The FBI pressured me to lie to charge me with a crime and denied my requests for outside employment. If the FBI treats its own agents this way, what might they do to ordinary citizens?

The speaker states that dozens of people have already left, with the civil division down 30% as of a week ago, and likely more now. While some may see opportunity amidst the departures, there's peril because there will be an accounting for lawyers who violated their ethical obligations and rules of professional responsibility. Many things Trump's attorneys are promising would violate those responsibilities. Many arguments being made in court, seemingly directed by the administration, are close to violating ethical lines because they don't appear fact-based. The speaker uses the example of being told to say Elon Musk has no authority. Judges are recognizing these arguments as shams. The speaker expresses being torn, having spent decades at the department.

After three weeks of training, the speaker received a litigation hold and a memo granting permission to fire probationary employees from the capital c section who had been moved within the office. The speaker was unsure if they were on the list. Upon returning to the office, colleagues shared their confusion. Two hours later, termination letters arrived, dismissing 15 assistant U.S. Attorneys. The speaker's letter cited their actions in prosecuting individuals involved in the events at or near the U.S. Capitol on 01/06/2021. It referenced an executive order from 01/20/2025 characterizing that work as a grave national injustice. The letter stated that the speaker's hiring hindered the acting U.S. attorney's ability to implement President Trump's agenda. The speaker believes Mr. Martin doesn't understand that U.S. attorneys represent the United States, not the president, and that firing 15 attorneys created a deficit in the office's ability to prosecute cases.

The Trump administration has executed a significant purge at the FBI, dismissing all six senior executives and multiple heads of field offices. This includes the leader of the Washington DC office, which was involved in prosecuting Trump, and several federal prosecutors linked to the January 6 investigations. These officials are career law enforcement professionals, not political appointees, and their removal could severely impact the FBI's ability to address terrorism and crime nationwide. Additionally, the acting deputy attorney general has requested a list of FBI employees involved in January 6 cases, affecting personnel across various field offices. This upheaval leaves local offices in disarray and raises concerns about the future of federal law enforcement.

An extraordinary scene unfolded outside the New York FBI office recently. I, Assistant Director James Dennehy, was forced to resign this week amidst clashes with Donald Trump's Justice Department, particularly after the removal of senior FBI leaders and requests for the names of agents involved in the January 6 cases. As I departed the building, I was met with cheers from hundreds of my colleagues and the sound of bagpipes. To everyone gathered, I promised to be your best cheerleader on the outside.

I'm Norm Eisen, publisher of The Contrarian, and I'm joined by Jen Rubin, editor in chief. We have Andrew Weissman with us, who discussed the troubling termination of FBI agents involved in the January 6 investigations. Emil Bove, the acting deputy attorney general, has ordered the disclosure of names of all FBI personnel associated with these cases, potentially affecting thousands. This raises concerns about public safety for those involved in prosecutions. The FBI leadership is reportedly resisting this order, with some special agents standing up for their colleagues. The situation echoes past injustices, and it's crucial for the Department of Justice to uphold the law rather than compromise it. FBI agents are trained in the law and are committed to their mission, demonstrating loyalty to justice over political pressures.

We were federal prosecutors on the Justice Department's Capitol attack investigation until the Trump administration fired us on January 31st. Why were we fired? Because we did our job. We followed the facts and the law. What we did was justice for 140 police officers wounded on January 6th, 2021. We were hired to prosecute cases from the riot, and none of our defendants were acquitted, which shows the evidence was overwhelming. But last month, the president pardoned even the most violent convicts, calling them "hostages." Letters of termination hit the Justice Department, calling the prosecution itself a grave national injustice. Anyone who has watched videos of January 6th knows that prosecuting the rioters was not the injustice. The injustice has been the Department of Justice turning its back on law enforcement officers, members of Congress, and all the victims affected.

In the discussion, Congressmen Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie were shown viewing the unredacted Epstein files on Capitol Hill, including material that had been previously redacted by the DOJ. The hosts question why large portions of the files were redacted and accuse Pam Bondi’s team of noncompliance with the Epstein Transparency Act. They suggest the move to foreground Bondi is a signal of political maneuvering to manage the release of the documents. Speaker 1 presents a Super Bowl ad urging the DOJ to release what the law requires, followed by a note that Epstein’s associate and alleged child sex trafficking figure Ghislain (Ghislaine) Maxwell appeared before Congress and invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked about the men who allegedly abused underage girls. Ro Khanna’s reaction is shared: Maxwell should not be in a cushy setting and should be sent back to maximum security. Speaker 2 emphasizes that, of the files released, the names of clients and coconspirators in the sex trafficking ring have not been disclosed, while victims’ names have been released. This is framed as either over-redaction or omission, with a claim that government names should not be redacted under the Transparency Act. Speaker 0 introduces Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who explains her perspective. She notes the urgency of transparency and states that victims deserve the truth, accusing the DOJ of failing to comply with the Epstein Transparency Act and calling out a persistent “battle” over the release of files even after the 2025 law. Speaker 3 (Greene) describes the impact of the disclosures, noting that the files reveal “violence, possibly murder,” and that survivors’ testimonies are harrowing. She recounts facing personal and political backlash for pushing disclosure, arguing that the administration and many Republicans have shifted their positions since the revelations. She asserts that the released files show that “the DOJ breaking the law” through redactions of names of former presidents, secretaries of state, and government officials, while leaving victim information exposed. Speaker 4 asks Greene about the possibility that the information might point to a broader, deeper network. Greene responds by stating that the files include FBI forms about Epstein, implying a level of official involvement, and asserts that the Trump administration has not released the information; she claims President Trump referred to the Epstein issue as a “Democrat hoax” and that Pam Bondi, who works for Trump, controls the release. Greene suggests the “independent counsel” would be the American people themselves, explaining distrust toward political figures and the two-party system. She shares that she would not vote to support foreign aid or a central bank digital currency, and notes the chilling effect of the retaliation she and Massey have faced from party structures, including loss of campaign staff and suggestions of political blacklisting. Speaker 0 asks about potential accountability or a special counsel and whether there might be more significant revelations. Greene predicts limited accountability, arguing that the president has influence over DOJ and other agencies, and that the people are the true independent counsel. She laments the “uni-party” dynamic and predicts continued resistance to releasing the full Epstein files. Towards the end, Greene reiterates that she does not plan to run for higher office and reflects on the broader political environment, emphasizing that the public’s demand for transparency could drive change. The dialogue closes with Greene expressing willingness to return and discuss further.