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The speaker expresses gratitude for the support at Downing Street, highlighting the importance of Julian Assange's case in defending journalism and truth. They condemn the attempt to silence Assange and emphasize the need for his freedom to protect democracy and human rights. The speaker criticizes those in power for their actions against Assange and calls for his release to prevent further injustice. They stress the significance of holding governments accountable and ensuring transparency in society. The speaker urges for solidarity in the fight for Assange's freedom.

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Julian Assange, a journalist, should not be extradited to the US for publishing classified documents leaked by Chelsea Manning. Governments hide actions, but journalists expose them for public scrutiny. Punishing Assange would undermine press freedom. Leaks are necessary for holding governments accountable. Assange's actions did not harm anyone, and he has already suffered greatly. Extraditing him would be excessive. The British high court should not send him to the US.

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The speaker expresses concern about the erosion of free speech and basic liberties in the United States. They find it disgusting and believe those who support it should be held accountable. Speaker 1 describes Julian Assange's appearance, mentioning that he looks older, pale, and bearded. Contrary to reports of his declining health, Speaker 1 finds him physically better than expected. Assange appears focused and mentally sharp during their conversation. He is dressed in prison-issued gray sweatshirt and sweatpants, and all the prisoners in the room wear fluorescent yellow armbands.

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A person accuses Mike Pompeo of covering up the US government's role in a president's murder. Pompeo allegedly pressured Trump to keep documents secret. Pompeo's employees claimed he planned to kill Julian Assange as CIA director. The speaker believes Pompeo is a criminal for these actions.

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Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks, faces extradition to the US for publishing classified documents revealing truths about the Iraq and Afghan wars. He has been imprisoned in the UK for over three years without a conviction, with the US seeking a 175-year sentence under the Espionage Act. His publications, including the infamous "collateral murder" video, exposed high civilian death tolls and military misconduct. Assange's case raises significant concerns about press freedom, as it sets a dangerous precedent for journalists. His supporters argue that the government is punishing him for revealing uncomfortable truths, while Assange's health deteriorates in prison. The implications of his prosecution could drastically alter how national security journalism is conducted, limiting access to vital information for the public.

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The speaker, who identifies as a liberal, shares their visit to a prison and seeing Julian Assange in London. They express their belief that people should only be imprisoned for valid reasons and highlight that Assange has been accused of telling the truth, not of fraud or criminal activities. They accuse Mike Pompeo, the former CIA director, of attempting to have Assange murdered, which Pompeo did not deny. The speaker questions why Pompeo is not in prison and criticizes those who falsely accused Assange of rape. They express disappointment in Trump for not pardoning Assange and criticize Pompeo for being a liar and flatterer.

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Speaker 0: Did you hear Trump's take on the JFK assassination, why he didn't release the files? Yeah. I know what Trump's take is. He said that if you knew what I know, you wouldn't tell people either, which is crazy. Well, and What does that mean? That's his position on the UAP thing as well Yeah. Actually. And that's a lot of people's position on it. I mean, you know, Trump is saying, of course, the CIA had knowledge of it. That is known. I mean, I mean, the whole it sounds like it's so funny. There's so many levels and there's so much I don't understand. But the whole JFK conspiracy industry, and it really is an industry, more books written on that than almost any historical topic, is is filled with wackos. Right? There are a lot of wackos in there. But it obscures that fact obscures the larger fact which is the facts themselves tell an unbelievable story. Yeah. And so whatever. I could get into it at great length. But yeah. Yeah. They're they're still classifying documents sixty one years later. Both Trump and Joe Biden have, in violation of my read of federal law, kept those documents secret. There's no living person connected to the Kennedy assassination. It was a couple generations ago. There's no one person whose whose secrets are being protected. It's an institution or maybe countries. There may have been countries involved too. I mean, don't know the answer, but there's clearly something worth protecting. And I know that when I I spoke to someone who'd seen the documents, okay, two years ago and I got I got one fact out of him, which is, yes, the CIA was involved. And by CIA, CIA is a huge organization, but James Jesus Angleton, the head of the operations directorate, had knowledge of this, which I think is well known. But that that's the view of someone who saw the documents. So I thought that was news, so I went on TV and said that. The next day, I'll never forget it, I went quail hunting, and I was driving back and I got a phone call from Mike Pompeo's lawyer. Mike Pompeo was the Secretary of State, but before then he was the Director of the CIA. And in that position, he plotted the murder of Julian Assange, so he is a criminal as far as I'm concerned. But his lawyer called me and said, you know, you should know that anyone who tells you the contents of classified documents has committed a crime. He's threatening me. It's in my car. I'll never with my dog sitting next to me. I'll never forget this. And I said, are you really saying that to reveal that the US government had a role in the murder of a democratically elected president to say that out loud, that's the crime? What about the actual crime which is murdering a president? Like, you're covering up for that, Mike Pompeo. He had no no response at all. And so Mike Pompeo is the one who pressed Trump to keep those documents secret. And so it's like, what's crazy to me is not just that Pompeo did that. I think Pompeo was a really sinister person and a and a criminal. I think that. I think that because the facts suggest that. He was caught. Yahoo News, Mike Issachoff wrote a long piece on this several years ago. His employees went to Mike Issachoff and said, hey. Mike Pompeo was plotting to murder Julian Assange who's never even been charged with a crime in The United States as CIA director. That's illegal. You're not allowed federal employees are not allowed to just kill people they don't like. Okay? Just to set the baseline here. So that's who Mike Pompeo is, but he somehow intimidated Trump into not releasing this. Well, okay. That's all bad. Right? I think it's criminal behavior. What's crazy is how Mike Pompeo is treated. He's treated as like a republican pooh bah in good standing. He fully expects to become the secretary of defense in a Trump administration, which is like completely insane. Why would you get criminal and give him nuclear weapons? Okay. That's my view. I think it's a common sense view. And like he goes to fundraisers and dinners and everyone's like, hey, Mike Pompeo. It's like, no. You're the guy who kept information the public has right to know secret. You're the guy who plotted the murder of someone who committed no crime. You are the outlaw. You are the bad guy. But no. He's treated as like, you know, like a pillar of republican Washington. I think that's I think it's mind bending to watch that.

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Julian Assange has been imprisoned for over a decade, largely due to opposition from the U.S. government. He remains in Belmarsh prison without being charged with a crime in the UK. Assange believes his imprisonment stems from WikiLeaks' publication of sensitive U.S. government documents, particularly regarding CIA surveillance. His wife, Stella, updates on his imminent extradition hearing, emphasizing the high stakes involved. She criticizes the UK's complicity in his detention, likening it to actions taken by authoritarian regimes. Stella expresses concern for Julian's deteriorating health and calls for any U.S. president to consider a pardon, arguing that his case threatens press freedom and constitutional protections. Despite the challenges, she highlights the growing support for Julian and the implications of his situation for journalism.

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The speaker addresses the misconception that Julian Assange is being charged as a hacker rather than for publishing classified information. They argue that the accusation of treason is absurd since Assange is not an American citizen and has barely visited the United States. They highlight the danger of setting a precedent where any country can claim treason for reporting on them. The speaker also points out that investigative journalists often rely on leaks and seek further evidence to support their findings. They conclude that if Assange's actions are deemed illegal, then all investigative journalism would be considered illegal.

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Julian Assange, held at Belmarsh prison, endures 23 hours of solitary confinement daily for over three years. This treatment aims to destroy him, despite his lack of conviction or charges beyond journalism. Surprisingly, some on the left have turned against him, including newspapers like The Guardian, which contributed to his imprisonment and vilification. Julian's spirit has suffered in solitary, leaving him feeling diminished and reduced. He hopes that our campaign for his freedom will allow him to rebuild his identity. It is our duty to support him, as Julian Assange is sacrificing his life for our right to know our government's actions conducted in secrecy.

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Julian Assange, a journalist, should not be extradited to the US for publishing classified documents leaked by Chelsea Manning. Governments hide actions from public view, so journalists play a crucial role in exposing misguided policies. Assange, like the New York Times with the Pentagon Papers, serves the public interest. No harm resulted from his leaks, and he has already suffered greatly. Extraditing him would be excessive punishment. The British high court should set him free.

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Julian Assange has spent 5 years in a high-security prison in London for exposing US and NATO war crimes. Unfortunately, our mainstream media in Europe has been largely influenced by the US Empire, resulting in journalists being paid to hide the truth. This has led to a serious crisis in European media, with independent outlets almost non-existent.

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Speaker discusses Trump’s stance on JFK assassination files, saying Trump claimed that if you knew what I know, you wouldn’t tell people either, and notes that this is his position on UAP as well. He asserts that the CIA had knowledge of the JFK matter and that the conspiracy industry around JFK is an industry with many wackos, but emphasizes that the facts themselves tell an unbelievable story. He mentions that documents are still classified sixty-one years later and argues that both Trump and Joe Biden have kept those documents secret in violation of his reading of federal law. He states there is no living person connected to the Kennedy assassination, only an institution or possibly countries involved, and indicates there may be something worth protecting. He relays a conversation with someone who had seen the documents two years earlier, from whom he learned that yes, the CIA was involved, and notes James Jesus Angleton, head of the operations directorate, had knowledge of this. He says this was news to him and he discussed it on TV. The next day, while quail hunting, he received a phone call from Mike Pompeo’s lawyer, who, as then-CIA director and later Secretary of State, had plotted the murder of Julian Assange. The lawyer told him that anyone who reveals contents of classified documents has committed a crime, and the speaker recalls driving with his dog and asks if revealing that the U.S. government had a role in the murder of a democratically elected president constitutes the crime, while suggesting Pompeo is protecting the murder. The speaker says Pompeo had no response. The speaker asserts Pompeo pressed Trump to keep the documents secret and calls Pompeo sinister and criminal, citing that Pompeo was caught—referencing Yahoo News, Mike Issachoff’s piece—where Issachoff’s sources claimed Pompeo was plotting to murder Julian Assange, who had not been charged in the U.S. as CIA director. He states federal employees are not allowed to kill people they don’t like. He contends Pompeo pressured Trump to withhold information the public has a right to know and that Pompeo plotted the murder of someone who committed no crime. Finally, the speaker questions how Pompeo is treated in Republican Washington, noting he is treated as a respected figure and potential secretary of defense in a Trump administration, despite being described as criminal for keeping information secret and for plotting a murder. He finds it mind-bending that Pompeo is treated as a pillar of Republican Washington.

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Julian Assange, a controversial figure, exposed government secrets through WikiLeaks, angering powerful entities. He faced legal troubles, including false rape charges, and is currently imprisoned in the UK. Despite not being charged in the US, he faces extradition under the Espionage Act. The treatment he receives is seen as a form of torture to silence him.

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Speaker 0: The speaker alleges a cover-up by people including Bill Barr and Mike Pompeo. Bill Barr, described by Jeffrey Epstein as “CIA,” allegedly covered up Epstein’s murder in federal detention, with Barr saying publicly, “we gotta make sure everyone thinks this is a suicide.” The speaker asks why Barr isn’t being questioned about this. Mike Pompeo is accused of plotting to murder Julian Assange, head of WikiLeaks. The speaker notes that WikiLeaks released the first tranche of emails to the public, and that Assange suggested on Dutch TV that his source was Seth Rich, a DNC staffer who was found murdered in Washington in what was described as a robbery where nothing was taken. Assange hinted in the interview that his sources faced great risks, mentioning Seth Rich; the interviewer pressed whether Rich was murdered for the leaks, and Assange said he couldn’t reveal sources but that they faced risks. Shortly after, Assange was incarcerated, first in an embassy in London and then in Belmarsh Prison, without criminal charges, actions the speaker attributes to the CIA and Mike Pompeo. The speaker contends that someone should ask Pompeo about this. Speaker 1: The speaker expresses anger at what they see as broad, systemic cover-ups versus ordinary Americans facing jail for minor offenses. They reference Pizzagate and Epstein, asserting that cover-ups extend across other issues, including Benghazi and Hillary Clinton material, which they claim were never properly pursued with the appropriate parties. They point to a long list of alleged co-conspirators connected to the Epstein matter, including those revealed in a recent document drop and corroborated subsequently. The list reportedly includes ten co-conspirators: one named Leslie Wexner, pilots (three identified by name), and others such as Ghislain Maxwell and various assistants who recruited girls, as well as individuals trafficking models. The speaker asserts there were many people around Epstein who were deeply involved and deserve serious questioning. They also reference Ehud Barak as among those connected to the network. Overall: The conversation presents multiple allegations of high-level complicity and cover-ups involving Bill Barr, Mike Pompeo, Julian Assange, Seth Rich, and a broad network around Jeffrey Epstein, including named and unnamed individuals, with claims of documented co-conspirators and ongoing questions about accountability.

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Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks, is facing extradition to the US and potentially 175 years in prison for publishing classified documents exposing US war crimes. The case has raised concerns about press freedom and the treatment of whistleblowers. Assange has been subjected to illegal surveillance, mistreatment, and a lack of access to his lawyers. The extradition proceedings have been marred by irregularities, including conflicts of interest and a biased judiciary. The US government's relentless pursuit of Assange is seen as an attack on journalism and the public's right to know. The case has far-reaching implications for freedom of speech and the ability of journalists to hold the powerful accountable.

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Speaker accuses Mike Pompeo of covering up US government involvement in a president's murder and plotting to kill Julian Assange. Pompeo pressured Trump to keep documents secret. Pompeo's employees reported his illegal actions to a journalist. Pompeo's behavior is deemed criminal.

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Assange has been held in a UK prison without being charged with a crime. The US government wants to indict him, and the British government agreed to keep him in isolation until it's resolved. Before being charged in the US, the CIA director, Mike Pompeo, discussed assassinating Assange. This raises concerns about federal appointees using taxpayer money to murder someone who embarrassed them. Pompeo, however, remains free and even visits donors. It's disturbing that our government would use our money to kill someone who exposed their crimes, and no one seems to have a problem with it. This led the speaker to visit Assange, which turned out to be worse than expected.

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A person accuses Mike Pompeo of covering up the US government's role in a president's murder. Pompeo allegedly pushed Trump to keep documents secret and was accused of plotting to kill Julian Assange. The speaker believes Pompeo is a criminal for his actions.

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The speaker denies ordering the assassination of Alexei Navalny and argues that their country does not have a habit of assassinating people. They also question whether the arrest and detention of 450 individuals who entered the congress with political demands is a form of persecution for their political opinions.

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I went quail hunting and received a call from Mike Pompeo's lawyer, who warned me that discussing classified documents is a crime. I challenged him, asking if revealing the U.S. government's role in the murder of a democratically elected president was the real crime, rather than the murder itself. Pompeo, as CIA director, allegedly plotted to kill Julian Assange, who hasn't been charged with any crime. Despite this, Pompeo is treated as a respected figure in Republican circles and is expected to become secretary of defense in a Trump administration. It's shocking that someone involved in such serious misconduct is celebrated rather than held accountable.

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The speaker denies ordering the assassination of Alexei Navalny and criticizes the assumption that they have a habit of assassinations. They question whether the person asking the question ordered the assassination of the woman who was shot in the US Congress. They highlight that 450 individuals were arrested for entering the Congress with political demands, facing potential jail time. The speaker suggests that this could be seen as persecution for political opinions.

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The speaker criticizes the focus on journalism while Julian Assange remains in prison and Ukraine engages in actions similar to what Russia is accused of. They express concern about the US turning fascist, mention the invasion of Iraq based on lies, and highlight the lack of attention given to these issues. They argue that China and Russia are making progress in international relations while the US has nothing to offer. The speaker questions the absence of Seymour Hersh and raises concerns about the Nord Stream and the banning of Russian media. They accuse the journalists present of not producing anything revolutionary and express frustration at the lack of answers to their questions.

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CIA Director Pompeo directed plans to kidnap and assassinate me while I was in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. This included targeting my family, with a CIA asset assigned to track my wife and obtain DNA from my infant son. More than 30 U.S. intelligence officials have corroborated this. My freedom today is not due to a functioning system but because I pleaded guilty to journalism. The prosecution of me highlights the dangers facing journalists and the chilling effect on freedom of expression. The U.S. government has claimed that only its citizens have free speech rights, setting a dangerous precedent for targeting journalists globally. We must protect the rights of journalists and ensure that what happened to me does not happen to others. The fight for fundamental liberties is crucial, as the repression of one can lead to the repression of all. Thank you for your support in this ongoing struggle.

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Julian Assange: Free Speech Martyr? | Stella Assange | EP 293
Guests: Stella Assange
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The discussion centers on Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks, and the implications of his legal battles. Assange, who published classified military and diplomatic documents in 2010, has faced ongoing legal challenges, including extradition to the U.S. on espionage charges. Stella Assange, his wife, emphasizes that Julian is a political prisoner and criticizes the blurred lines between journalism and state secrecy. She recounts how Julian's work has exposed war crimes and corruption, arguing that WikiLeaks serves as a vital repository of historical truth. Stella explains that despite no formal charges in Sweden, Julian was pursued legally, leading to his asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy from 2012 to 2019. She highlights the political motivations behind the allegations against him, suggesting they were timed to coincide with his publishing activities. The couple's relationship developed during this tumultuous period, and they share two children. The conversation touches on the broader implications of Assange's case for press freedom, noting that the charges against him could set a dangerous precedent for journalists. Stella argues that the U.S. government's actions against Julian represent a significant threat to freedom of expression, as they blur the line between journalism and espionage. She expresses concern over the potential for a chilling effect on journalists and citizens alike, as anyone sharing classified information could be deemed a criminal. Ultimately, Stella asserts her unwavering support for Julian, citing her firsthand experience of the persecution he faces and the broader implications for democracy and civil liberties. She concludes that the fight for Julian is also a fight for the integrity of the press and the right to know the truth.
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