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The discussion centers on U.S. involvement in biological research in Ukraine amidst accusations from Russia. A U.S. official claimed that any biological or chemical weapon incidents would be attributed to Russia, which has been accused of using disinformation tactics. The conversation reveals that the U.S. has funded biological laboratories in Ukraine, which study dangerous pathogens. Despite denials from U.S. officials about developing biological weapons, there are concerns about the security of these materials in a conflict zone. The Chinese government has called for inspections of these facilities, highlighting international concerns about biological safety. The need for transparency and accountability regarding U.S. actions in Ukraine is emphasized, as the situation remains precarious.

In Ukraine, there were military biological programs experimenting with deadly pathogens like coronavirus, anthrax, cholera, and African pig plague. They are now trying to hide the evidence, but we believe they were creating components for a biological weapon. This poses a direct threat to Russia's safety. Ukraine and their US supporters rejected these claims, but their actions were bold and brazen.

Speaker 0 argues that anyone can file a complaint with a law enforcement authority for murder conspiracy and demand arrests and prosecutions. He points to a 2013 press release claiming that DARPA awarded Moderna Therapeutics up to $25,000,000 to develop messenger RNA therapeutics, noting that DARPA is the Pentagon and claiming the Pentagon bought, paid for, and envisioned these mRNA shots. He contends Fort Detrick was involved in developing COVID-19 at the UNC BSL-3 and asserts the Pentagon is on both sides of the argument, developing the weapon and the alleged vaccines. Speaker 1 asks whether there is any liability shield for deploying a biowarfare weapon and whether the narrative about congressional liability for Pfizer is a SIOP. Speaker 0 agrees that civil liability is separate from criminal liability, stating in his book Resisting Medical Tyranny that executives at companies developing these mRNA shots are guilty of murder and conspiracy to commit murder. He cites a Portugal report claiming that upwards of 300,000 Americans had been murdered by the mRNA Franken shots and invokes the JAB resolution, describing it as a Nuremberg crime against humanity and a violation of the Nuremberg Code. He defines a Nuremberg crime against humanity as murder, extermination, and other inhumane acts committed against civilians. Speaker 1 asks about liability for government officials who approved the vaccines. Speaker 0 says FDA officials who approved the shots could be indicted for murder and conspiracy to commit murder, noting the FDA’s involvement in developing COVID-19 as an offensive biological warfare weapon at UNC BSL-3, including a cited contract listing National Center for Toxicological Research and FDA as contributors. He claims the FDA, which approves the vaccines, was involved in this development. Speaker 1 questions the CDC and media accountability, noting the CDC’s recommendation of the vaccines and media promotion of boosters. Speaker 0 says the CDC, including Director Milensky (appointed by Biden, from Harvard Medical School), is complicit, and claims the CDC has a history dating back to the Reagan administration of handling offensive biological warfare projects, including shipping weaponized agents to Saddam Hussein with implications for U.S. troops after Gulf War I. Speaker 1 asks whether there are lawmakers with intel on gain-of-function biowarfare. Speaker 0 mentions Senator Rand Paul as having a strong understanding, but asserts that some lawmakers were threatened and obstructed after consulting him, recounting an experience with Walter Jones of the House Armed Services Committee who briefly engaged but then did not follow up, implying threats prevented action. Speaker 1 asks how citizens should respond, and Speaker 0 advocates reporting to sheriffs, district attorneys, and state attorneys, noting progress with a Collier County health freedom declaration. They discuss enforcement mechanisms, seizure, and incineration of stockpiles, and trial and sentencing for those responsible. Speaker 0 condemns China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology as a bioweapons lab, alleging it was a Chinese counterpart to Fort Detrick, with the Chinese president seeking his own BSL-4 program and an offensive biowarfare arsenal. Speaker 1 notes U.S. funding and international bioweapons labs, including Ukraine and Taiwan, and ends by referencing Lindsey Graham and a speaker labeled as a professor Boyle.

The speaker is working with Jay Bhattacharya and Secretary Kennedy to investigate US-funded gain of function research, including at the Wuhan lab, which they believe may have led to the COVID-19 pandemic. They aim to provide evidence linking this research to the pandemic. The speaker claims Anthony Fauci denied this research under oath and may have sought a preemptive pardon. They argue that gain of function research continues in biolabs worldwide, posing a risk of future pandemics. The speaker faced criticism for warning about US-funded biolabs in Ukraine. The speaker questions why the intelligence community was reluctant to conclude that COVID-19 originated in a lab, contrasting this with instances where they quickly make assumptions without conclusive evidence. They attribute this to the politicization of intelligence, citing the Iraq War as an example of intelligence being used to influence policy.

Over a year ago, we knew about the biolabs, their experiments, and related documents. It started in 2005 with the Defense Intelligence Agency, which created the Global Viral Forecasting Institute with Nathaniel Wolf, later Meta Biota. Rosemont Fonseca, an investment firm headed by Hunter Biden, Christopher Hines, and Paul Pelosi Jr., funded Meta Biota. This is a corrupt operation developed over the last decade to generate biological warfare against the Russians. They've been collecting DNA from Slavic people. General Igor Krylyov exposed this as a war crime because it violates the biological weapons agreement. America's 30 biolabs in Ukraine experimented on animal-to-human transmission, which is the origin of COVID-19. The research conducted in Ukraine will be directly connected to COVID-19. The United States created and opened this Pandora's box.

Four days ago, I wouldn't have believed the Biden administration was funding secret biolabs in Ukraine, but Under Secretary of State Nuland confirmed their existence during a Senate hearing. Despite fact-checks dismissing it as Russian disinformation, these labs are real, and Nuland expressed concern about their contents falling into Russian hands. The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the labs were developing military biological programs with US funding, possibly involving deadly pathogens like plague and anthrax. The US embassy in Ukraine has a web page explaining that American and Ukrainian scientists have worked on a whole bunch of different experiments like this. The US government is downplaying the situation, with the Pentagon calling Russian accusations "absurd."

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the Ukraine conflict as part of a broader geopolitical strategy attributed to a globalist elite. Speaker 1 contends that globalists in the White House, in Congress, and in European capitals want BlackRock to take over Ukraine to strip its resources and subjugate it to a globalist agenda, and they also aim to destroy Russia. The claim is that the war has never been about Ukraine itself, but about destroying Russia. According to Speaker 1, the people in charge failed to perform strategic analysis, underestimating Russia by treating it as if it were the post-Soviet state of 1992—weak and prostrate. The reference to John McCain’s description of Russia as “Spain with a gas station” is invoked to illustrate this hubris. The argument continues that Russians warned against NATO on their border and about the dangers of Western actions in Eastern Ukraine, but these concerns were ignored. Speaker 1 asserts that the outcome is a dangerous, ongoing war that could become regional or global, with a consequence that the White House is not fully grasping. He predicts a massive Russian offensive when ground conditions permit, foreseeing that much of what is currently identified as Ukraine—especially the Kyiv government—will be swept away. He claims the Kyiv government represents the interests of the globalist elite seeking resources to exploit, not the Ukrainian people. The discussion shifts to broader economic implications, including the potential loss of the petrodollar as Putin engages with Saudi Arabia and China. Speaker 1 frames the war as both military and financial, suggesting that BRICS could expand dramatically and move to a gold-backed currency, whether a single currency or a basket. He asserts that this shift threatens the current global financial system and that the globalists are desperate as a result. The speaker fears that once Ukraine’s fate becomes clear, there will be pressure to deploy US forces into Western Ukraine, with Polish and possibly Romanian troops, which would escalate into a full-scale war with Russia. According to Speaker 1, Putin has shown restraint and does not want a war with the West, but intervention in Western Ukraine could end in open conflict. Speaker 1 also argues that Putin has repeatedly warned against advancing the border toward Russia and transforming Ukraine into a hostile actor, framing what happens in Ukraine as an existential strategic interest to the United States. He contrasts this with a claim that Biden’s stance has prioritized regime change in Russia and the division of Russia to exploit it, while alleging that oligarchs like Kolomovsky, Soros, and others are part of this globalist project. The discussion concludes with criticisms of U.S. military recruitment practices, suggesting the Army and Marines are not prepared for such a conflict, including comments about recruitment of illegals encouraged by the administration.

Oliver Stone reveals that the US has biological research facilities in Ukraine, which Bill Maher was unaware of. Stone suggests that the possibility of a lab leak in Ukraine is more likely than the theory of bats being the source of the pandemic. He questions the purpose of these American labs and wonders if they were involved in developing various types of research, including agriculture. Stone mentions that the information about these labs has been concealed, and he speculates whether they were involved in creating anthrax or other unknown substances. Additionally, he expresses surprise that Maher is unaware of this information. Ukraine has biological research facilities that are of concern due to the potential risk of Russian forces gaining control of the research materials.

According to the speakers, the Pentagon assessed that providing Ukraine with weapons capable of striking targets within Russia carried a 50% risk of nuclear exchange. Despite this assessment, the U.S. proceeded with providing those weapons. One speaker argues that such a decision warrants imprisonment, likening it to being controlled by supernatural forces. The other speaker agreed with the assessment, and presented a hypothetical scenario where Russia faced a similar threat from weapons in Canada and Mexico, emphasizing Putin's warning of a full retaliatory commitment in response to a large-scale aerospace attack. The speakers highlight the potential for rapid destruction, with nuclear submarines capable of striking major U.S. cities within minutes. One speaker recounts witnessing smoke emanating from the Kremlin after a drone attack, noting the Russian reluctance to acknowledge vulnerabilities in their capital's defense. They claim Ukrainians have murdered Russians and attempted to murder Americans.

The speaker argues the United States is principally responsible for causing the Ukraine crisis. While acknowledging Putin started the war and is responsible for Russia's conduct, and that America's allies bear some responsibility, the speaker asserts the U.S. pursued policies seen by Putin as an existential threat to Russia. This threat is specifically America's obsession with bringing Ukraine into NATO and making it a Western bulwark on Russia's border. The speaker claims the Biden administration was unwilling to eliminate that threat through diplomacy and recommitted to bringing Ukraine into NATO. The speaker draws parallels to the Vietnam and Iraq wars, where Americans questioned how their country miscalculated so badly.

The speakers discuss the possibility of the COVID-19 virus originating from a lab leak rather than bats. Speaker 1 brings up American labs in Ukraine and questions their purpose. Speaker 2 mentions that Ukraine has biological research facilities, which they are concerned about falling into the hands of Russian forces. Speaker 1 suggests that the existence of these labs was buried and wonders if they were involved in creating anthrax or other unknown substances. Speaker 0 admits to not having knowledge about this topic.

We were aware of the biolabs and their experiments over a year ago, tracing back to 2005 with the Defense Intelligence Agency's creation of the Global Viral Forecasting Institute, linked to Nathaniel Wolf. This evolved into Meta Biota, funded by Rosemont Fonseca, associated with Hunter Biden, Christopher Hines, and Paul Pelosi Jr. This network suggests a corrupt operation under the Obama and Biden administrations aimed at developing biological warfare against Russia, including collecting DNA from Slavic populations. General Igor Krylyov has revealed evidence of war crimes, indicating that the U.S. operated 30 bio labs in Ukraine, conducting experiments related to animal-to-human transmission, which connects to the origins of COVID-19. This research exposes significant violations of international agreements on biological and chemical weapons.

Real Smoke discusses the presence of bio labs in Ukraine and the false claim that Ukraine was developing biological weapons with US assistance. However, the US has been supporting Ukrainian bio labs to strengthen public health measures, and both countries have pledged to never produce or use biological weapons. The conversation also touches on the origins of the COVID-19 virus, with some arguing it came from a wet market while others believe it originated from a lab in China. The discussion highlights the political divide surrounding this topic.

Ukraine has biological research facilities that they are concerned Russian forces may try to gain control of. They are working with Ukraine to prevent any research materials from falling into Russian hands. Russian propaganda groups are spreading information about a Ukrainian plot to release biological weapons, but there is no doubt in the speaker's mind that if there is an incident, it would be the Russians behind it. The Russians have a history of blaming others for their own plans.

Speaker 0 argues that this is not an attack by Putin on Ukraine in the way it is commonly framed. The speaker references 1990, stating that on 02/09/1990 James Baker III told Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not move eastward if Germany unified, and that Gorbachev agreed, ending World War II. The speaker asserts that the US then cheated starting in 1994 when Clinton signed off on a plan to expand NATO all the way to Ukraine, marking the rise of the neocons and identifying Clinton as the first agent of this. NATO expansion began in 1999 with Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic, at which point Russia did not see a direct threat. The speaker notes the US-led bombing of Serbia in 1999 as problematic, describing it as NATO bombing Belgrade for seventy-eight straight days to break the country apart, which Russia did not like. Putin became president, and the Russians initially tolerated and complained but were largely subdued. The speaker claims Putin started out pro-European and pro-American, even suggesting joining NATO when there was some mutual respect. After 9/11 and the Afghan conflict, Russia supported the effort to root out terror. Two decisive actions are highlighted: in 2002, the United States unilaterally withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, described as perhaps the most decisive event rarely discussed in this context. This led to the US placing missile systems in Eastern Europe, which Russia views as a direct threat. The speaker mentions a soft regime change operation in Ukraine in 2004-2005, followed by Yanukovych winning the election in 2009 and becoming president in 2010 on the basis of neutrality for Ukraine. This calmed tensions because the US was pushing NATO, while Ukrainian public opinion reportedly did not want NATO membership, citing a divided country between ethnic Ukrainians and ethnic Russians and a desire to stay away from certain conflicts. In 02/22/2014, the United States allegedly participated in the overthrow of Yanukovych, described as a typical US regime change operation. The Russians supposedly intercepted a call between Victoria Nuland (then at the State Department, now at Columbia University) and Jeffrey Piot, the US ambassador to Ukraine, discussing who would be in the next government. The speaker asserts that after these events, the US said NATO would enlarge, while Putin repeatedly warned to stop, noting that promises were made not to enlarge NATO. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia are listed as having joined NATO in 2004, before the broader enlargement. The speaker accuses the US of rejecting the basic idea of not expanding NATO to Russia’s border while placing missile systems after breaking a treaty, including walking out of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty in 2019. On 12/15/2021, Putin allegedly proposed a draft Russia-US security agreement with no NATO enlargement, which the speaker says he communicated to the White House, urging negotiations to avoid war. The speaker claims Jake Sullivan asserted an open-door policy for NATO enlargement, calling it “bullshit,” and asserts that they refused negotiations, leading to the special military operation, with Zelensky offering neutrality and Western leaders pushing Ukraine to fight, resulting in “600,000 deaths now of Ukrainians.”

Speaker 1 claims to have heard "behind the scenes" that war is coming and NATO wants to send 250,000 troops into Ukraine. Speaker 1 states that Ukraine is losing the war, with the death toll approaching 1.5 million, and that Ukraine has "flatlined" according to computer analysis. Speaker 1 believes the West is gearing up for war and deliberately crossing Putin's red lines in order to provoke him into attacking NATO, so they can claim he is the aggressor.

Join us as we discuss a significant story involving U.S. government disinformation regarding biological labs in Ukraine. Victoria Nuland's Senate testimony raised concerns about dangerous labs in Ukraine, contradicting the narrative that these claims are false. Journalists often rely on government denials without investigating the truth, which undermines credible reporting. The government has a history of misleading the public, as seen with the anthrax attacks and the manipulation of the coronavirus. The choice of Ukraine for such research raises questions, especially given its medical infrastructure and the U.S.'s long-standing involvement in the region. This situation warrants scrutiny regarding U.S. intentions and actions in Ukraine. Thank you for joining the conversation.

I visited a public health lab in Kyiv, Ukraine, with a new senator, and the lab director showed us vials of bacillus anthracis. The strength of the Russian people inspires me, and I want to share the truth about the war in Ukraine. This isn't about denazification; Ukraine has a Jewish president whose family was murdered by Nazis. The Kremlin started this war. Also, we need to get vaccinated, wear masks, and practice social distancing to prevent viruses from spreading. We're concerned Russian forces may seize biological research facilities in Ukraine. We're working with Ukrainians to prevent research materials from falling into Russian hands. After the Soviet Union collapsed, an empire moved in, replacing it. I hope Putin will be taken out. He's a war criminal, like Hitler. The FBI knew about Hunter Biden's laptop while Trump was being impeached. I established a foundation in Ukraine before its independence, which is still functioning. Biden's son made millions in Ukraine and there is massive corruption. When I was in the White House, we had peace through strength.

- Speaker 0 describes a doctrine where an agent or pathogen works best as a binary weapon if followed by mass exposure with vaccines, noting the insistence on gene transfection technologies to create a peptide with a prion-catalyzing epitope and pointing out that lipid nanoparticles are highly labile and inflammatory, constituting a combination of chemical and biological warfare. - Speaker 0 adds that if this was a weapon release, it may be done and now data will reveal its effects, and expresses doubt about how much trust can be placed in normal scientific methods and institutions to relay data to the public, inviting Speaker 1’s thoughts. - Speaker 1 (Stephanie) says the discussion has been an incredible and difficult ride since things began unfolding, with questions about natural versus lab-based origins, vaccine development versus biowarfare, and concerns about funding by China for bioweapons, acknowledging the impossibility of definitively answering many questions. - Speaker 0 agrees that ambiguity is the point and calls it the strength of the weapon. - Speaker 1 asks why someone would inject something to inflict a bioweapon on the entire population, suggesting population control as a possible motivation. - Speaker 0 notes the need to consider literature from top transnational power structures and corporations, asserting that it is not hidden. - Speaker 1 recalls prior concerns about population-control vaccines, referencing reports about vaccines used in Argentina and Africa that allegedly caused infertility, describing an example where a vaccine given to teenage girls could lead to antibody development to a fetus, making infertility less detectable over time. She mentions a memory of a “benign disease” vaccination program in Argentina that led people to suspect infertility, and notes that it could be a stealth method. - Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the idea that vaccines may have had effects on fertility and reference terms like human chorionic something, with Speaker 1 acknowledging possible occurrences in India as well as Africa and Argentina. - Speaker 0 refers to bioaccumulation seen in reproductive organs and cites pharmacokinetic studies beginning in Japan, noting the vaccine’s presence in the placenta and testes and recalling reports of harmful effects on male reproductive organs. - Speaker 0 mentions Anna Burkhart’s data as dark regarding spike protein expression in reproductive organs found in autopsies, while acknowledging uncertainty about how much weight to attribute to that data, but maintaining that biowarfare cannot be dismissed. - The discussion returns to the mechanism of biowarfare being distinct from a pathogen, describing a scenario where exposure leads to effects years later due to the disease mechanism being induced, rather than immediate pathogen-driven illness.

Russia released evidence linking Hunter Biden's investment fund to funding Ukrainian biolabs, where untested drugs were allegedly used on soldiers. The US is said to conduct such activities abroad due to legal restrictions at home. Ukraine's labs receive US funding for research on pathogens, but they are owned and operated by Ukraine and are part of a program to prevent deadly outbreaks. (Translation: Russia claims Hunter Biden's fund financed Ukrainian biolabs where untested drugs were used on soldiers. US conducts such activities abroad due to legal restrictions. Ukrainian labs receive US funding for pathogen research as part of outbreak prevention program.)

Ukraine has biological research facilities that they are concerned Russian forces may try to gain control of. They are working with Ukraine to prevent any research materials from falling into Russian hands. Russian propaganda groups are spreading information about a Ukrainian plot to release biological weapons, but there is no doubt in the speaker's mind that if there is an incident or attack, it would be the Russians behind it. The speaker believes it is a classic Russian technique to blame others for what they plan to do themselves.

The speaker questions the portrayal of Ukraine as good and Russia as bad, mentioning US bioweapon labs in Ukraine. They find it odd that Ukraine's president is a former comedian. They suggest that President Biden is not in charge, and the US is run by revenge-seeking misfits.

The speaker opposes bioweapon labs because they believe they pose a real threat to people's safety, regardless of their nationality. They claim that the West is preparing a new pathogen and that the criminals running the US government are at war with the American people. The speaker believes that these criminals are building bioweapon labs in other countries to avoid responsibility. They also express concern about the military industrial complex and the incompetence of those in power. The speaker emphasizes the desire for peace, control over their own country, and collaboration with other nations. They urge the need to win the information war against globalists to prevent nuclear war.

Over a year ago, we discovered the existence of bio labs and their experiments, along with documents and contractors involved. The Defense Intelligence Agency initiated the Global Viral Forecasting Institute in 2005, which later became Meta Biota. This organization received funding from Rosemont Fonseca, an investment firm led by Hunter Biden, Christopher Hines, and Paul Pelosi Jr. These connections reveal a corrupt operation developed by the West under Obama and Biden, aiming to create DNA biological chemical warfare against Russia. General Igor Krylyov's findings expose a violation of the global biological chemical weapons agreement, as America's 30 bio labs in Ukraine conducted animal to human transmission experiments, likely contributing to the origin of COVID-19. This reveals a Pandora's box created by the United States.