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One speaker recounts that he did not like Bibi Netanyahu, describing Netanyahu as a destructive force and saying he was appalled by what was happening in Gaza, and that Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute wars for the benefit of his country, which he called shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States, a view he resented. He also notes that he didn’t hate Netanyahu. After that speech, there was a sharp backlash against Charlie Kirk and, to a lesser extent, the speaker, with Kirk having about $100 million in donors and being heavily dependent on them because his project was nonprofit. They went after him and tormented him, while a small, very intense group offended by the speech tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.

They say Charlie Kirk was offered an infusion of $150,000,000 by Israel to shield for Israel harder; Turning Point USA has a budget of $140,000,000. Israel allegedly aimed to make Kirk 'more pro Israel' and back regime change in Iran and 'ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.' Kirk refused the money. Netanyahu then invited him to Jerusalem for a 'reeducation tour' and the Holocaust museum—the burned babies, the beheaded babies; he refused that as well. They offered to bribe him and reeducate him, and he refused both. Two, Bill Ackman hosted this event at his house in the Hamptons where, according to supporters, pro-Israel mouthpieces berated and screamed at him for not supporting Israel enough; Kirk's friends say he felt scared and possibly blackmailed. Well, he's dead now, so he can't tell us what really went down; all we know is the alleged feelings of those present, not his perspective.

Speaker 0 says, "And I don't know how the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep at night." He adds, "No matter what the cost is, you tell the truth. That's it." He alleges that "about forty eight hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi, that he had no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause outright" and that he "refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors." He challenges TPUSA to answer: "Did he express that? Did he also express that he wanted to bring me, Candace Owens, back because he was standing up for himself?" He asks for "'the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the Hamptons weekend'" and whether there were LLCs paying Rob McCoy. He asserts, "Charlie did not die pro Israel. He did not die for Israel," noting that "Friends of Israel were pressuring him really badly." He vows to expose lies and ends, "Somewhere, Charlie is watching."

Speaker rejects the claim that 'Israel was behind Charlie Kirk's assassination,' calling it 'ridiculous' and noting Kirk 'was supported by pro Israel Jewish patrons until the day that he died' while he 'defended the administration's cover up of the Epstein files' and 'defended the administration's bombing of Iran.' He says Kirk remained in support for Israel. He says Netanyahu offered money, which Kirk refused, and claims Bill Ackman hosted an event with 'Israeli mouthpieces' Seth Dillon and Josh Hammer; Kirk reportedly refused a trip to Israel. When the FBI could not locate the alleged gunman, Ackman offered a '$1,000,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of Charlie Kirk's assassin,' to be paid to 'the alleged killer's father' Tyler Robinson, 'a Mormon father' who allegedly turned in his gay son dating a tranny who killed Charlie Kirk. He calls this 'a bit suspicious' and says it requires careful scrutiny.

The speaker describes an ongoing series of nightly videos about Charlie Kirk and claims that, during the shooting, Charlie Kirk was placed “in the frame of this white tent directly in the middle,” which the speaker says would help with telescopic targeting. The speaker argues that the situation resembles a modern version of how a show was created around JFK, and says that, like JFK’s place in American and global consciousness, this event is meant to be remembered widely. The speaker claims Kirk’s death followed his political shift after appearing on a show with Ben Shapiro the night before. The speaker says Kirk told Shapiro that Israel should be questioned if it is doing something wrong, and that it is the duty to question wrongdoing. Within 24 hours of this interview, the speaker says Charlie Kirk was killed. According to the speaker, Kirk headed an organization with 3,500 chapters and received protection that kept his platforms from being removed, alongside funding from “Zionist money” and “Zionist influence.” The speaker describes the foundation’s purpose as bringing America’s young people into politics and says Israel’s approach was “we built you. You can’t turn against us. If you think you can turn against us, we’ll punish you.” The speaker claims Kirk feared he would be killed and told friends he believed “they’re going to kill me.” The speaker says Kirk had been told not to platform Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and Dave Smith for a debate with a Zionist person, saying they worked against Israel and against the narrative. The speaker claims Kirk platformed them anyway, and specifically says Tucker Carlson delivered a 20–25 minute speech questioning Israel’s role as an ally of the United States, including questions about how billionaires have such wealth and referencing Bill Ackman’s $9 billion valuation. The speaker links Ackman to actions involving university leadership and campus politics, and claims a “Jewish supremacy group” contacted Kirk to stop him from platforming those voices. The speaker asserts Kirk “woke up” to what they describe as Israel committing genocide and America being driven toward war with Iran for Israel’s interests. The speaker claims Kirk moved away from previously pro-Israel support, and describes Kirk refusing a reported offer of $40 million from Benjamin Netanyahu as involving a “leash.” The speaker then claims Kirk was prevented from leaving with his organization because it includes thousands of university campuses and would be “weaponized against Israel,” describing the organization as influential among conservative youth. The speaker says Donald Trump confronted Kirk and told him to “shut the fuck up,” but frames this as unrelated to Kirk’s rejection of Israel’s preferences. The speaker concludes that Kirk was killed because he was no longer aligned with Israel’s desired side, naming Megyn Kelly, Dave Smith, and Tucker Carlson as part of what the speaker says Kirk had platformed, and adding that Kirk’s aunt opposed America going to war. The speaker ends by claiming the operation involved a professional hit team and that the broader operation was connected to Mossad and the CIA, resulting in the “destruction” of America’s “soul.”

The speaker addresses claims that Israel is involved in Charlie Kirk's death and reviews the FBI's official narrative that "it was Tyler Robinson, this 22 year old leftist with a transgender boyfriend." He discusses the circumstantial case that "Israel played some role" but admits "we don't really have the information we need" and "we can't trust the FBI." He notes "There have been some tall claims ... not fully substantiated by evidence" and points to Max Blumenthal as "the source of this idea," citing "the article with unnamed sources, anonymous sources that create this narrative that Charlie Kirk was on the verge of flipping on Israel and is effectively implying that the donors wanted him dead." He covers the Bill Ackman meeting, saying "Charlie Kirk walked away from this meeting ... feeling blackmailed, feeling afraid," yet adds "we now have receipts and testimony and names about that meeting" showing "Charlie Kirk organized the event and it was fine." "I don't trust Max Blumenthal... This guy's a left wing Jew." "And you know who's implicated in this killing? The left."

- "Charlie Kirk is the pro Zionist guy." - "What if they were listening in to him and he was in communications with people saying, hey. I think I'm gonna go this direction and they knew his intentions or saw this pattern." - "Here's this pro Zionist guy with this incredibly powerful platform that they built, by the way, that Charlie has, thanks to them." - "So if he's gonna take what they gave him and turn it against them, that could literally destroy Israel because the youth is people they're most concerned about." - "We can't let him turn." - "Israel was never my top suspect until, you know, I've spent twenty four hours thinking about it, I'm like, it's not unreasonable. It's not even out of the question in terms of would Israel do this." - "it's in their wheelhouse."

This segment recounts escalating pressure on Charlie Kirk over Israel debates. A speaker says: "I'm an American citizen. Yes. I want Israel to win. Yes. I'm a Christian." Kirk says his "moral character is now being put into question" and "I am a bad person if I do this." The piece notes threats to pull funding and that he faced pressure about inviting people, asking "How could Charlie allow these debates about Israel to take place?" It describes a "duress situation" at the Hamptons, with Bill Ackman allegedly pressuring Kirk as Beebe Netanyahu offered "an intervention" and funding. "We just need you to come to Israel and we can make this better" and "We just need you to come to Auschwitz and take a picture." Kirk reportedly "denied that funding" and "Charlie said no to Bebe." Beebe's timing is claimed: "less than twenty four hours after Charlie Kirk was shot."

The speaker discusses Charlie Kirk and claims that, in a shooting, Kirk was placed “in the frame of this white tent directly in the middle of it,” which the speaker says would help “targeting” through telescopic aiming. They argue that the situation mirrors the “JFK” pattern, claiming that a modern equivalent was created to enable a targeted killing. The speaker links Kirk’s death to events “within 24 hours” of an interview with Ben Shapiro, where Kirk is described as questioning whether Israel should be questioned if it is doing wrong and saying it is the duty to question wrongdoing. The speaker also says Kirk was head of an organization with “3,500 chapters” and describes it as having support “with the help of Zionist money” and Zionist influence that, according to the speaker, helped Kirk stay on platforms that might otherwise remove him. The speaker says Kirk’s organization was aimed at getting young people involved in politics and characterizes Kirk as an Israel ally whose platforming was protected by supporters. They claim Kirk feared Israel would kill him, stating that Kirk told friends, “they’re going to kill me,” and that he was in “fear of what’s going to happen to me.” The speaker recounts a previous large event where Kirk was said to have planned to platform Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and Dave Smith in a debate with a Zionist person, but claims Kirk was told not to platform them because they were “working against the state of Israel” and “against our narrative.” They claim Kirk platformed them anyway and describe Tucker Carlson’s appearance as a “20 to 25 minute speech” that, according to the speaker, dismantled the idea that Israel is an ally of the United States and questioned the billionaire class, including Bill Ackerman’s wealth. The speaker claims Ackerman is linked to reshaping universities and suppressing dissent on campuses, and that pro-Israel groups pressured Kirk through contact and messaging, including via WhatsApp. The speaker then claims Kirk “woke up” and stopped supporting Israel, describing the speaker’s view that Kirk became opposed to Israel committing genocide and opposed to America being drawn into war with Iran for Israel. They say Kirk refused money from Benjamin Netanyahu—described as “forty million dollars” offered to help Kirk’s foundation—because, the speaker claims, it would create “a leash” and Kirk would be controlled. The speaker claims Kirk’s refusal led supporters to decide he could not be allowed to walk away with the organization. They further claim Kirk’s America-first stance included telling President Trump that what Trump was doing was wrong, and they say Trump responded aggressively. The speaker claims Kirk did not want to follow what they attribute to Israel’s wishes and that supporters feared the organization—described as involving university campuses and youth politics—could be used against Israel. The speaker asserts that Netanyahu later called Kirk for further cooperation, which Kirk declined. Finally, the speaker says the killing was carried out by “professional” hitmen and characterizes it as part of a broader operation involving Mossad and the CIA, claiming the motive was to prevent Kirk from opposing Israel and to punish Kirk for shifting his platforming away from pro-Israel alignment.

They claim Charlie Kirk arranged the meeting, a run-of-the-mill influencer retreat; receipts exist and they've exploded the Israel-conspiracy narrative, since Ackman and other attendees' receipts haven't been refuted by Blumenthal or Kanis Owens who promoted the story. Ackman said, "no, Charlie organized the event and it was fine." Blumenthal originally said Charlie felt blackmailed after that meeting; Blumenthal later said he meant Charlie felt morally blackmailed because one attendee was mad at him. The speaker distrusts Blumenthal and his father Sidney Blumenthal. And you know who's implicated in this killing? The left. The radical left exists; go to Portland, go to Seattle; Charlottesville. They are violent and think you're a Nazi. Palantir and the powers that be exacerbate these tensions, but they don't create them; they don't create conservatives and progressives.

"They said come to Israel, meet with me. Charlie Kirk said no. Now he's dead." "Bill Ackman is a Wall Street Jewish billionaire." "after October 7, Bill Ackman shifted to the right. He put a million dollars behind Trump and became very active in Republican politics even though he's a lifelong Democrat." "When the FBI could not locate the alleged gunman on Wednesday, do you know who stepped up and offered a $1,000,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of Charlie Kirk's assassin? Bill Ackman." "the $1,000,000 will be paid out to the alleged killer's father." "Tyler Robinson was allegedly turned into law enforcement by his father." "I see a bit of a conflict of interest there." "That needs to be investigated."

Speaker 0 expresses that "The behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away" and that he is accused of being an anti-Semite despite "I honor the Shabbat, literally the Jewish Sabbath." He notes online backlash, "thousands of tweets and text messages," and that his "moral character is now being put into question" for supporting Israel. Speaker 1 agrees the treatment is unfair, saying "Dave Smith isn't allowed to criticize Israel" and that "the Israeli side was overrepresented." They discuss Americans first, resisting accusations, and the difficulty of criticizing the Israeli government online. They reference Epstein's controversial topic and say they hosted a debate giving "equal time to Josh Hammer, equal time to a pro Israel advocate." They observe a "hyperparanoid state" online and wonder if patterns resemble "nineteen thirties Germany."

Speaker argues Charlie Kirk’s “financial stake in the future of the company” and leadership of the faith division would matter, noting that if Charlie “decided one day to become Catholic” it would have financial implications. He says, “I never had a conversation that that Charlie was in the process of converting,” but claims “Rob in particular knew for an absolute fact that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him.” He presents alleged proof via a group chat two days before Kirk’s assassination, with nine people including Charlie and Rob McCoy; seven names withheld. In the chat, Charlie writes: “just lost another huge Jewish donor. 2,000,000 a year because we won't cancel Tucker.” “I cannot and will not be bullied like this.” “Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.” A donor writes: “please do not invite Candace.” Forty eight hours before Charles was assassinated. He says Charlie “did not back down” in the Hamptons meeting or the text thread, and suggests donors may be driving the hosts, asking why Carlson and Kelly haven’t condemned them, calling it suspicious and alleging donors might be running them to “eulogize Charlie” who “never once flinched” from the Israeli cause.

After his September 12 report on pressure from pro-Israel forces and Netanyahu’s network, a tumultuous August Hamptons meeting convened by Bill Ackman allegedly pressured Charlie Kirk to adopt a pro-Israel line. Kirk was summoned with an array of young conservative influencers to set a pro-Israel tone and was hammered for allowing critics like Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and Dave Smith to appear at events. Ackman threatened funding and travel to Israel; Kirk refused both. Netanyahu later disclosed a letter, and Beebe said Kirk was offered assistance. A staged intervention by Ackman occurred as Kirk’s views shifted; he denied accepting money or traveling. Tucker Carlson questioned Ackman’s money on stage, and Kirk faced intense pressure with texts and threats. Seth Dillon and others present did not go on record; calls for Turning Point USA to release audio of Kirk’s remarks.

Speaker 0 raises a question about accountability for Israel and mentions Jeffrey Epstein’s dealings with Mossad. Speaker 1 asks, without specifics, whether there are forces that tried to influence him to stop what he’s doing now. Speaker 0 responds that they wouldn’t vote for foreign aid and foreign war funding, and they were upset because he said no. He states: “I’m not voting to fund the Ukraine war ever,” and “Israel’s doing just fine. We don’t need to give them a penny, not a single penny, nor do we need to give it to any other country, but they get mad at me for that.”

Speaker asserts: "No one... outside of my husband and Erica Kirk has the power to shut me up right now. That's it. Two people." She says appeals must go to them, calling out frantic donors' attempts to politicize the situation because "they know I'm telling the truth," including "Frantic calls from Seth Dillon." She claims "Charlie was under immense pressure, and he was face facing financial threats" over his stance on Israel and whom he hosted for America Fest (Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson). "I looked you in your face and I said no to your money." She warns, "Don't push me, or I will name more names. What happens in the Hamptons is not going to stay in the Hamptons." Attendees say Charlie was "pressed." On day one, he argued it was wrong he couldn't publicly criticize Israel; a tweet about Netanyahu resigning prompted Seth Dillon to say "that would be antisemitic." "Josh Hammer" was upset, "part of the beehive" swarming him. She offers her platform to dispute, demanding answers and denouncing "misrepresentation by Beebe" and his echo in America, naming "Josh Hammer" and "Seth Dono." She mentions "Bill Ackman" and a "phone call" about Israel.

The speaker says there is a financial stake in the company tied to Charlie Kirk’s leadership of the faith division and notes concern if Charlie ever became Catholic, though conversion was not discussed. Rob McCoy allegedly knew Charlie was done with Israel bullying. He cites a group chat two days before Kirk’s assassination, with Charlie and Rob McCoy; he says he might release a name every day this week. In the chat, Charlie writes, "just lost another huge Jewish donor. 2,000,000 a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace." A second comment adds, "Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause." The speaker notes it was "forty eight hours before Charles was assassinated" and that Charlie was "very clear and he did not back down" in Hamptons meeting or thread. He questions why others haven’t vindicated these claims and suggests donor pressure may be shaping coverage toward eulogizing Charlie as never flinching in support of the Israeli cause.

"I like them more than I like Hamas. I just wish I was free to criticize Israel and not be labeled an anti Semite, because I can criticize my own government and not be called anti American." "It's time to end the war." "It's time to stop the killing." "it's not a whole lot of Jewish donors." "We only took American money." "There was money sent to us, like, practically in multiple instances where they're trying to cram it down our bank account, and we said no. We canceled, like, money wires and things." "No handouts from the government." "During the pandemic, he refused to do mass layoffs ... said no to the stimulus check." "I don't appreciate being morally blackmailed." "Was Charlie offered $150,000,000 from Israel? As far as I know, no."

Charlie Kirk faced mounting pressure about Israel debates. "I'm an American citizen. Yes. I want Israel to win. Yes. I'm a Christian." He says "the sum of the mess" and that "my moral character is now being put into question" while insisting "I love Israel. I want Israel to win." He recalls "thousands of tweets" and a pattern "similar to what my grandparents saw in nineteen thirties Germany online?" as well as threats to "pull out money" and "nasty text messages." The discussion centered on Tucker Carlson and why Charlie would allow voices like "Dave Smith, who by the way is Jewish" on stage. Beebe Netanyahu allegedly staged "an intervention" by "Bill Ackman" with "threats" after which Charlie "denied that funding" and was invited to Israel, an invitation Charlie "said no to Bebe." "Just take the last step, Charlie." Charlie was praying the rosary. Charlie was going to mass.

The speakers discuss alleged hidden dynamics within Turning Point and connections to international and ideological forces. Speaker 0 claims that Arizona has long investigated Turning Point, and that conversations within the state finally broke into the public sphere. He says he spoke with Liz Harris, a former Arizona House member, and asserts that Harris told him, “Turning Point's Mossad. Tyler Boyer is Mossad. They're all neocons. They're connected to Mossad.” He says he has the report and a recording of Harris saying this, emphasizing that many people warned him but he wanted to verify for himself. He states that "when Charlie died that was it for me" and that he decided it was time to come out and reveal what he witnessed and participated in, apologizing to the American people. Speaker 1 acknowledges familiarity with Liz Harris and then asks for details about internal communications leaking after Charlie’s death, which allegedly show that he was leaving the Zionist cause and that leadership faced questions about Israel policy. The question is whether Tyler Boyer was explicitly asked about this direction and what his answer was. Speaker 0 describes an incident in Boyer’s office where a female associate asked Boyer, “why are you so against Candace Owens. The Israel cause etcetera.” He says Boyer closed the door, pulled the speaker’s friend in, and told her, “listen, I’m a Zionist. Candace Owens is a black conservative who wants to be relevant in this movement. And she's doing whatever she can at all cause to stay relevant.” He presents this as proof, claiming it is in the text he sent to Stu and that the friend confirmed it in the office encounter. Across the exchange, the core assertions are that Liz Harris labeled Turning Point's leadership as connected to Mossad and neocon interests, specifically naming Tyler Boyer as Mossad; that after Charlie’s death there were internal, leaked communications about Zionist alignment and Israel policy; and that Boyer disclosed a Zionist stance and disparaged Candace Owens during a confrontation in his office, presenting Candace Owens as attempting to stay relevant in the movement.

Speaker alleges that “within forty eight hours before Charlie passed away, his top Jewish donors were pulling funding from him, demanding that Charlie take their name off of the building that they had donated to Turning Point. And then once Charlie was killed, they said, never mind, put it back on the building.” He says Charlie had “alluded to a tremendous loss of money coming in” and that “more people are going to come out with information. This is all inevitable.” The speaker notes Beebe's PR blitz: “Beebe recently was on a PR blitz despite the fact that he was fighting this ninety six thousand front war because Israel didn't do nothing,” listing podcasts and asking, “Anybody find it weird you didn't do Charlie Kirk show?” Tomey is cited: “Charlie was implied that Charlie was penning love letters to him in May. I just love you so much.” He calls a “hostile takeover” and says after Charlie's death, supporters claim “the energy is Charlie died for Israel,” which is “literally untrue, and we're not going to allow it.” Okay? It's just not true.

Denied, and what Beebe didn't include there, he declined to go to Israel for, I would I would describe this as, like, you know, reeducation camp. "We just need you to come out to Auschwitz and take a picture... We just need you to go to Israel, and we can make this better. Charlie said no to Bebe." Bill Ackman says there were conversations that took place, and they are solid; "our sources and what we have, it's solid." He notes "another person that was there, and I am not surprised this person was there." The discussion shifts to Seth Dillon: "If you've been listening to my show, Seth Dillon." He describes planning to "out to Seth Dillon" and sending a last-night message about a Hamptons meeting; Dillon "normally very quick with a response" but "has not yet been able to respond." He says, "I am not someone who normally publicizes text messages." He mentions "my friend was shot in the neck" and demands answers, ending with a tweet quote about Charlie Kirk: "I feel incredibly privileged to have spent a day and shared a meal with Charlie Kirk this summer. He was a giant of a man."

At the Hamptons event, the speaker says "essentially what was staged intervention was staged by Bill Ackman" because "Charlie’s thoughts, Charlie's rational thoughts about Israel were a no no," and Charlie was "surrounded by his friends, quote unquote friends." "Bill Ackman was very upset and threats were made." "I have receipts I can show you," but Ackman "did not provide the receipts" and the speaker says, "This is not how it went down." "BB Netanyahu was called and Charlie was invited to Israel" in an "under duress situation." There were talks of "a ton of money" and Charlie "denied that funding"; references to a "reeducation camp" and "Auschwitz" or the "Holocaust Museum" for a photo. The speaker asks Seth Dillon for comment; texts show attempts to get a response. Charlie was "praying the rosary" and "going to mass."